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 on: April 03, 2024, 08:00:49 am 
Started by DolfanBob - Last post by patric
So I will ask, if this is the new state regulation, that if I'm in a bar in Tulsa, and ABLE does a spot inspection and I have a valid Arizona DL and having an alcoholic beverage what does that allow them to do? If I don't show my ID, even though it's valid from another state what happens? Seriously, I'm having dinner and someone from ABLE demands my ID when I have not committed a crime and they have no probable cause, and I ask what is the probable cause, can they do?

"Public Drunk, Interfering."

 52 
 on: April 03, 2024, 01:20:18 am 
Started by DolfanBob - Last post by dbacksfan 2.0
The sticky part is/was ABLE and TPD's Vice Squad improvisations. There is no statutory requirement that only a current license could be used to confirm your age, or that surrendering your DL to a cop in a bar is entirely voluntary. One even explained to me what they would do if you didnt volunteer.

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Its been a few years, but I was told flat out by ABLE agents doing "bar compliance checks" that only a current Oklahoma Drivers License is valad for the purchase of alcoholic beverages; expired ones arent valid... as if you suddenly got younger when your DL expires.
This, as ABLE and TPD went from one gray-haired person after another demanding ID to prove they had a right to be in a bar.

So I will ask, if this is the new state regulation, that if I'm in a bar in Tulsa, and ABLE does a spot inspection and I have a valid Arizona DL and having an alcoholic beverage what does that allow them to do? If I don't show my ID, even though it's valid from another state what happens? Seriously, I'm having dinner and someone from ABLE demands my ID when I have not committed a crime and they have no probable cause, and I ask what is the probable cause, can they do?

In every state, and in Mexico, that I have traveled to, I have never been denied or questioned about the validity of my ID, as long as it was not expired, for service or purchase of alcohol, regardless of the state that it was issued in, since I turned 21 in 1984.

As I remember, there is reciprocity between states as to what a valid ID is, and that a valid state ID issued by one state was accepted by any state especially for drivers licenses.

 53 
 on: April 02, 2024, 10:38:21 am 
Started by heironymouspasparagus - Last post by heironymouspasparagus
I think that since you can login from another IP means the address is really the issue.
The problem with blocking dynamic IP addresses is sooner or later an innocent party will inherit the blocked address.
Sometimes unplugging your modem for several minutes will flush the problem broadband address.
Have you sent your blocked IP address to the moderator?



Changes.  I use a VPN sometimes and sometimes don't.   And it looks like internet supplier allocates different ones on occasion.  Windstream and Cox cable...  So far just chasing my tail.  Gonna start a log on addresses!






 54 
 on: April 02, 2024, 10:20:35 am 
Started by heironymouspasparagus - Last post by patric
Done a bunch of those kind of things - on another computer now, so expect to be banned here, too.   They have remained as insecure site for years, so maybe that is what tagged me.  Anyway, it has been nice talking to everyone if the Admin can't get their act together and fix the site problems!   Will try to drop in from time to time to see what is going on....

I think that since you can login from another IP means the address is really the issue.
The problem with blocking dynamic IP addresses is sooner or later an innocent party will inherit the blocked address.
Sometimes unplugging your modem for several minutes will flush the problem broadband address.
Have you sent your blocked IP address to the moderator?

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 on: April 02, 2024, 08:41:27 am 
Started by DolfanBob - Last post by patric

At both places we hated it when the ABLE "storm troopers" showed up for a spot check. I don't remember anyone I worked with getting cited or the business being cited, and I never got cited. They showed up at Doolittle's a couple times because they were told employees were drinking, not straw testing, drinking behind the bar. At Speeds we had a near disaster because they showed up and the boss hadn't posted the new business liquor license, fortunately he and the new license were there and they just said okay and left after everything else checked out.   

The Oklahoma only DL smells like someone at ABLE that is power tripping (not surprised). I got carded at Hard Rock two years ago and Boulder Grill in 2017 no one told me that an Arizona, and Oregon in 2017, license wouldn't be accepted.

The sticky part is/was ABLE and TPD's Vice Squad improvisations. There is no statutory requirement that only a current license could be used to confirm your age, or that surrendering your DL to a cop in a bar is entirely voluntary. One even explained to me what they would do if you didnt volunteer.

 56 
 on: April 01, 2024, 10:41:55 pm 
Started by DolfanBob - Last post by Red Arrow
If you don't look old enough they will ask for an actual ID.

Used to be that way at Walmart until last fall.  I guess they had some problems.  Policy now is to card everyone, period.


 57 
 on: April 01, 2024, 09:58:12 pm 
Started by DolfanBob - Last post by dbacksfan 2.0
The grocers and Wallyworld are the same here, if they don't  enter a birth date they can't complete the transaction. If you don't look old enough they will ask for an actual ID. Some of the liquor stores actually scan the bar code to verify the ID of everyone some don't. When I go to my grocery store I go through the self checkout and scan any alcohol last and sometimes they come over and scan their card for the register and let me enter the DOB or they just put in one that's over 21.

Haven't been carded in a restaurant here in years.


 58 
 on: April 01, 2024, 04:16:41 pm 
Started by ZYX - Last post by Urban Enthusiast
Does anyone know when the City plans to replant the rose bushes in Woodward Park?  I went by there today and it was completely barren.  I know they a disease wiped them out a few years ago.  Sad to see it in this condition, it used to be beautiful with tons of roses and several fountains.

I've heard that they would have to replace all of the soil in the beds if they wanted to plant roses again.  I'm not sure if that is true or not, but that would be an expensive proposition.  I guess it was a major outbreak of Rose Rosette Disease.

 59 
 on: April 01, 2024, 02:42:37 pm 
Started by heironymouspasparagus - Last post by heironymouspasparagus
Sometimes bans are based on a dynamic IP address. If yours recently changed you might have fallen into a hole.
Some things you can try are restarting your modem after its been off for a couple minutes to see if it changes again.


Done a bunch of those kind of things - on another computer now, so expect to be banned here, too.   They have remained as insecure site for years, so maybe that is what tagged me.  Anyway, it has been nice talking to everyone if the Admin can't get their act together and fix the site problems!   Will try to drop in from time to time to see what is going on....

 60 
 on: April 01, 2024, 09:43:07 am 
Started by DolfanBob - Last post by Red Arrow
Local Walmart stores card everyone for any alcohol sale.


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