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#11
Development & New Businesses / Re: 15th and College (NW side)
Last post by BKDotCom - August 21, 2025, 10:43:15 AM
Quote from: SXSW on August 13, 2025, 05:04:39 PM136 apartments coming to the SW corner of 31st & Yale (closer to Winston).

cool.  had not heard that...

I know QuikTrip owns all the emptyness on the SW corner..
#12
Development & New Businesses / Re: 15th and College (NW side)
Last post by Urban Enthusiast - August 20, 2025, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: SXSW on August 13, 2025, 05:04:39 PM136 apartments coming to the SW corner of 31st & Yale (closer to Winston).

Yeah, I have heard there is going to be quite a bit of redevelopment in that area.  Have you seen any site plans?
#13
Local & State Politics / Re: None of the Above
Last post by Red Arrow - August 20, 2025, 12:28:26 AM
Quote from: cynical on August 19, 2025, 03:50:26 PMUndervoting (leaving one of the races blank) doesn't spoil the ballot in Oklahoma. A "none of the above" option is not needed. Just vote for candidates you support. Don't vote twice in the same race. Don't make extraneous marks on the ballot. It'll count.


In the election I was referring to, I couldn't support any of the candidates in the Republican Primary.

NONE, NADA, ZIP.  For reasons I don't want to share here.

I have frequently "under voted" but submitting a completely blank ballot took some assistance from one of the poll workers.


#14
Local & State Politics / Re: None of the Above
Last post by cynical - August 19, 2025, 03:50:26 PM
Quote from: Red Arrow on June 12, 2024, 12:22:50 PMI know this has been discussed before but couldn't find anything with search.....

Oklahoma doesn't have a None-of-the-Above choice on election ballots.   I just checked with the Tulsa County Election Board about putting a ballot in the machine with no selections.  Since a voter signs the register before getting a ballot, the voter will be credited with voting even if no selections are made on the ballot.  (Secret ballot).

While a None-of-the-Above option would make a louder voice, at least the voter can get credit for voting without having to select the least horrible candidate.

I expect that a letter writing campaign to the legislatures would meet with a dead-end.  Perhaps a voter initiative (or whatever it's called) could get None-of-the-Above options on the ballots.


Undervoting (leaving one of the races blank) doesn't spoil the ballot in Oklahoma. A "none of the above" option is not needed. Just vote for candidates you support. Don't vote twice in the same race. Don't make extraneous marks on the ballot. It'll count.
#15
The Burbs / Re: Oklahoma City MAPS 4 $978 ...
Last post by Laramie - August 17, 2025, 05:12:16 AM
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              MAPS 4 Multipurpose Stadium           





                                                                             Stadium placeholders
Oklahoma City MAPS 4 Multipurpose Stadium will be horseshoe shaped with the open end facing the OKC skyline.  Stadium will be built to eventually meet Major League Soccer specifications.

Current budget:  $71.3 million = $41.3 million initiative + $30 million in other public money
                              Current projected seating capacity 12,300

October 14, 2025 - $2.7 Billion City wide Bond Election:  If approved ($50 million) earmarked for MAPS 4 Multipurpose Stadium expansion,(Budget adjustment: $121.3 million) - adding 4,000 seat upper deck increasing capacity beyond 16,000.


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#16
PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning / Re: High Speed Rail In Texas a...
Last post by Red Arrow - August 15, 2025, 11:18:58 PM
Quote from: dbacksfan 2.0 on August 15, 2025, 03:30:52 PMIt takes the HSR 5 to 8 miles to accelerate once it gets out of a city area and about the same distance to decelerate and slow down through an urban area. The stretch between Fresno and Merced it's doubtful that the train would achieve 90 miles an hour because of the short distances.mt=webp-alpha&wid=576[/img]

5 to 8 miles seems a bit excessive for the speed, excluding the time for the stops.  Unless one wants to stand up with a drink without holding on to something.
#17
PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning / Re: High Speed Rail In Texas a...
Last post by Red Arrow - August 15, 2025, 11:14:06 PM
Quote from: patric on August 15, 2025, 10:13:10 AMTulsa has been promised passenger rail... if we spend money on OKC first.
...but a passenger route between OKC and Tulsa is long overdue.
Of course, there was a planned Amtrak expansion to Tulsa-STL and Chicago but that probably died with DoGE.

I think a passenger route (not even high speed) between OKC and Tulsa died long before DoGE. Just another way to suck $$$ out of the Tulsa area to benefit OKC.
#18
PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning / Re: High Speed Rail In Texas a...
Last post by dbacksfan 2.0 - August 15, 2025, 03:30:52 PM
Just some observations. Where they are building the California High Speed Rail that will open first is between Bakersfield and Merced is 171 miles with the longest stretch between Bakersfield and Tulare at 60 miles, then Tulare to Fresno at 45 miles, Fresno to Madera at 25 miles, and Madera to Merced at 35 miles. The initial segment will basically parallel an Amtrack line along the same route.

The segment between Bakersfield and Fresno currently takes about 1.75 hours to drive by car, and 2.50 hours by Amtrak and if IIRC with a stop in Tulare the HSR is supposed to be around 1.50 hours. It takes the HSR 5 to 8 miles to accelerate once it gets out of a city area and about the same distance to decelerate and slow down through an urban area. The stretch between Fresno and Merced it's doubtful that the train would achieve 90 miles an hour because of the short distances.

There will be at least nine or ten stops if it ever gets built from LA to San Francisco and there is so much urban area going to SF it will never reach top speed.

HSR along Dallas/OKC/Tulsa and KC or STL would be nice, but you know that several towns along the route are going to want stations. I can already see Denton/Ardmore/Purcell/Norman/Chandler/Stroud/Bristow/Sapulpa/Claremore/Vinitia/Miami/Joplin/Springfield/Lebanon/Rolla all wanting stops along that route.



Brightline from Rancho Cucamonga to Las Vegas will actually achieve high speed since there are only two stops, Hespiria and Victor Valley. You will have to drive or take the Metroliner that runs from downtown to Cucamonga.

#19
PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning / Re: High Speed Rail In Texas a...
Last post by swake - August 15, 2025, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: patric on August 15, 2025, 10:13:10 AMTulsa has been promised passenger rail... if we spend money on OKC first.
...but a passenger route between OKC and Tulsa is long overdue.
Of course, there was a planned Amtrak expansion to Tulsa-STL and Chicago but that probably died with DoGE.

Amtrak is a lot closer to being shut down than to adding routes under Trump.
#20
PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning / Re: High Speed Rail In Texas a...
Last post by patric - August 15, 2025, 10:13:10 AM
Quote from: Red Arrow on August 08, 2025, 09:44:29 PMInteresting.
What about Tulsa-Kansas City, Tulsa - St Louis,

Tulsa has been promised passenger rail... if we spend money on OKC first.
...but a passenger route between OKC and Tulsa is long overdue.
Of course, there was a planned Amtrak expansion to Tulsa-STL and Chicago but that probably died with DoGE.