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Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: FOTD on February 04, 2008, 12:16:46 pm
101st and Elm?

Hmmmmm???


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: swake on February 04, 2008, 12:44:57 pm
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

101st and Elm?

Hmmmmm???



Which Elm? Jenks or Broken Arrow?

One has been rumored for years at 111th and Elm in Jenks but never has been built.

There is a ton of newly cleared land at 101st and Elm in Jenks and the only things that I know of that are going in there are a bank and a tunnel car wash and it's far too big a site for just those two things. It would be a good site for a grocery store (even better if it wasn't a Wal-Mart). Reasor's is just a block down Elm and is so busy that at times (yesterday before the Superbowl for one) that you have to wait for parking spaces to open up, the lot is totally full.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: Conan71 on February 04, 2008, 01:17:42 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Broken Arrow sure loves them some wal-marts.



I still have not sworn off the neighborhood market entirely, but I think I've sufficiently weaned myself off Wal-Mart after my last visit to Admiral & Memorial.  Just flat scary.

I wonder if they make a version of Chantix for discount store shoppers to help get them off it for good?


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: FOTD on February 04, 2008, 02:25:09 pm
quote:
Originally posted by swake

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

101st and Elm?

Hmmmmm???



Which Elm? Jenks or Broken Arrow?

One has been rumored for years at 111th and Elm in Jenks but never has been built.

There is a ton of newly cleared land at 101st and Elm in Jenks and the only things that I know of that are going in there are a bank and a tunnel car wash and it's far too big a site for just those two things. It would be a good site for a grocery store (even better if it wasn't a Wal-Mart). Reasor's is just a block down Elm and is so busy that at times (yesterday before the Superbowl for one) that you have to wait for parking spaces to open up, the lot is totally full.



Jinx...sorry for the confusion.

Jenks Council Hints at New Development
Tulsa Business Staff
1/21/2008

Recent action taken by Jenks City Council to acknowledge intentions to develop Elm Street into a three-lane roadway could mean a 60,000-SF retail business is planning to come to town.
The council went on record stating city intentions to improve 101st Street between the Jenks Levee and Elm Street to a three-laned roadway “upon the issuance of a building permit for a retail building of at least 60,000 SF at 450 South Elm.”
The council instructed City Manager Mike Tinker to notify Jeffrey M. Clayton of JMC Realty Inc., that the roadway and related improvements would be complimentary to the development’s site plan and adjacent properties.
No one at the city level is identifying what retailer or retailers are contemplating building at the site.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: BKDotCom on February 05, 2008, 07:32:44 am
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD
Jinx...sorry for the confusion.

Jenks Council Hints at New Development
Tulsa Business Staff
1/21/2008

Recent action taken by Jenks City Council to acknowledge intentions to develop Elm Street into a three-lane roadway could mean a 60,000-SF retail business is planning to come to town.
The council went on record stating city intentions to improve 101st Street between the Jenks Levee and Elm Street to a three-laned roadway “upon the issuance of a building permit for a retail building of at least 60,000 SF at 450 South Elm.”
The council instructed City Manager Mike Tinker to notify Jeffrey M. Clayton of JMC Realty Inc., that the roadway and related improvements would be complimentary to the development’s site plan and adjacent properties.
No one at the city level is identifying what retailer or retailers are contemplating building at the site.
Throwdown.  that's mighty close to Reasor's


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: ARGUS on February 07, 2008, 10:49:26 am
Hey want some low-life types in your neighborhood? GET a Wal-Mart Market and they will flock there! The one at 45th and peoria sucks! SUCKS! Panhandlers, etc. Watch and learn.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: BKDotCom on February 07, 2008, 12:00:58 pm
quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

Hey want some low-life types in your neighborhood? GET a Wal-Mart Market and they will flock there! The one at 45th and peoria sucks! SUCKS! Panhandlers, etc. Watch and learn.
No such issue at 21st & Yale, 81st & Sheridan, or 96th and Delaware.
¿Perhaps they throw out the welcome wagon for you?


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: safetyguy on February 07, 2008, 01:05:50 pm
I don't understand why they would be there since they have one @ 96th & Delaware and the new SuperCenter going up in Glenpool.

I'm sure it's just like any other Wal-mart they are trying to run Reasors out of Jenks.

101st and Elm has already been widened. Are they not talking 111th and Elm near the Kum & Go?



Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: swake on February 07, 2008, 01:35:17 pm
quote:
Originally posted by safetyguy

I don't understand why they would be there since they have one @ 96th & Delaware and the new SuperCenter going up in Glenpool.

I'm sure it's just like any other Wal-mart they are trying to run Reasors out of Jenks.

101st and Elm has already been widened. Are they not talking 111th and Elm near the Kum & Go?





They are talking about widening 101st from Elm over to near Parkwest.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: Steve on February 10, 2008, 12:00:04 pm
I have often wondered how the opening of the Wal Mart grocery at 21st & Yale has affected the business at Reasor's, just across the intersection.  My guess is very little.  I live just 4 blocks southeast of the Wal Mart and I don't think I have seen more than 20 cars in the Wal Mart parking lot at one time since it opened, except maybe right before a holiday.

My grocery business and $ still goes to Reasor's.  I am in there several times a week and it seems as busy as ever, in spite of the Wal Mart presence across the street.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: buckeye on February 11, 2008, 01:45:37 am
The 21st & Yale location certainly has a trashier feel inside than Reasor's, that's for sure.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: sauerkraut on February 11, 2008, 10:28:05 am
quote:
Originally posted by buckeye

The 21st & Yale location certainly has a trashier feel inside than Reasor's, that's for sure.

That's a big shopping center. There's a book store there and I believe even a Circuit City. Reasor's is just one little clog in the  wheel. It'll work out Ok.[:O]


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: sgrizzle on February 11, 2008, 10:44:20 am
quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

quote:
Originally posted by buckeye

The 21st & Yale location certainly has a trashier feel inside than Reasor's, that's for sure.

That's a big shopping center. There's a book store there and I believe even a Circuit City. Reasor's is just one little clog in the  wheel. It'll work out Ok.[:O]



I think you're two miles off. Barnes and Noble and Circuit City are by the mall at 41st.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: sauerkraut on February 11, 2008, 03:22:41 pm
I wish Tulsa would have a "Meijers" store, they are big food stores and have a full selection of everything discounted. They only seem to only market in the mid-west area Ohio, Indiana, Michigan and Ill. They are open 24 hours and carry brands and foods that Wal-Mart does not carry. I guess the stores have web sites too. Another store I like alot is the HY-Vee stores but they seem to only market in the Omaha/Iowa area. Hy-Vee has a very good bakery with fresh baked goods and hot foods for carry out, they sell baked potatos, corn, chicken, mashed potatos and the like all piping hot and ready to take home or to your work place or just as a snack. HyVee donuts are really good. They bake them fresh in the store bakery and don't bring them in from some frozen donut warehouse in some far off place.Tulsa does not seem to have much in food stores. Reasors seems to be the best place for food. The others are just waehouse food marts or Wal-Mart foods. I don't like paying sales tax on food, most states do not tax food items.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: sauerkraut on February 11, 2008, 03:26:55 pm
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:
Originally posted by sauerkraut

quote:
Originally posted by buckeye

The 21st & Yale location certainly has a trashier feel inside than Reasor's, that's for sure.

That's a big shopping center. There's a book store there and I believe even a Circuit City. Reasor's is just one little clog in the  wheel. It'll work out Ok.[:O]



I think you're two miles off. Barnes and Noble and Circuit City are by the mall at 41st.

Your right-opps. The place at 21st and Yale is the Sears, Target and Reasors and a restaurant out in front of the Reasors. The state Fair is across the street.. The Reasor's stores always seem to have a cop security guard on patrol inside the store. I was way off base.. My bad.[B)]


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: danno on February 14, 2008, 05:42:51 pm
quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

Hey want some low-life types in your neighborhood? GET a Wal-Mart Market and they will flock there! The one at 45th and peoria sucks! SUCKS! Panhandlers, etc. Watch and learn.



 Thats just the area I think. Don't get me wrong, its not really a bad part of town, and I have never had that experience at the Neighborhood Market, even at 3 am. However, I have boycotted that QT near the Walmart. After dark it gets kind of creepy with all the cranksters and panhandlers. With that said, don't even get me started on the 61st and Lewis QT. I've noticed a real change in QT in that they don't chase these people off like they used to.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: zstyles on February 19, 2008, 03:37:14 pm
Agreed....I have sworn off walmart entirely even though there is one about 2 blocks from me..After going to Reasors for a few things months ago...seeing how they actually put your groceries in bags for you, have less than 2 people in any line and spend less than 5 mins at a checkout line...also not to mention the selection of food both imported, organic and others..I am willing to pay a little more (maybe 10 bucks more per trip) for the fresh feeling and friendly service....I have not been to another walmart in about 4 months....

Also one moved into our area and now all sorts of people who can't speak English, don't wear shoes and steal the shopping carts because they don't have a car hang out around it.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: zstyles on February 19, 2008, 03:38:46 pm
quote:
Originally posted by danno

quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

Hey want some low-life types in your neighborhood? GET a Wal-Mart Market and they will flock there! The one at 45th and peoria sucks! SUCKS! Panhandlers, etc. Watch and learn.



 Thats just the area I think. Don't get me wrong, its not really a bad part of town, and I have never had that experience at the Neighborhood Market, even at 3 am. However, I have boycotted that QT near the Walmart. After dark it gets kind of creepy with all the cranksters and panhandlers. With that said, don't even get me started on the 61st and Lewis QT. I've noticed a real change in QT in that they don't chase these people off like they used to.



Have you called them to tell them about this? Perhaps at 3am they have 2 employees and they are not allowed to run them off..might call and talk to the day manager..but since this is off topic I digress


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: TurismoDreamin on February 24, 2008, 06:35:34 pm
Ya know, "450 South Elm Jenks, Ok" is extremely close to Reasors. I shook my head when Walgreens built their place right next to Reasors. Why did we need two different retailers next door to each other? And why do we need three? The trailer park years ago that use to sit on that proposed strip of land for this Wal-Mart had better intentions with that land than any other Wal-Mart ever will.


Title: New Wal Mart Neighborhood Grocer?
Post by: joiei on February 24, 2008, 09:22:35 pm
quote:
Originally posted by TurismoDreamin

Ya know, "450 South Elm Jenks, Ok" is extremely close to Reasors. I shook my head when Walgreens built their place right next to Reasors. Why did we need two different retailers next door to each other? And why do we need three? The trailer park years ago that use to sit on that proposed strip of land for this Wal-Mart had better intentions with that land than any other Wal-Mart ever will.

Walmart tends to do that with their stores, they build and then leech off the other stores in that area, I guess in an attempt to steal away the other stores customers instead of trying to open in an underserved location and create their own unique customer base.