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The Park at Adam's Creek in Broken Arrow

This is a Power Center located at 71st and 193rd in Broken Arrow, OK.  Back in 2002, the Lowes was built and was the only thing located here until just recently when many companies have decided to locate here.  Here is a list of the following places here at The Park at Adam's Creek:

Lowes
Buffalo Wild Wings
Chili's
IHOP
TTCU-BA
Santa Fe Cattle Co.
Cinemark Theater (construction should begin this year)


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That's pretty tiny for a theater...

Dollar movies, coming soon..

It would appear small because the way the picture is taken but it is big enough for a 16 screen theater.  That is a little more than a dollar theater.

The site plan for The Park at Adam's Creek shows a 50,000 square foot theater.  The new Cinemark theater that opened in Orem, UT is a 16 screen, 47,000 square foot building.  I am sure it will be pretty close to the size of the one at 71st and 169.

I can remember when that area was nothing more than pasture. Progress is not always a bad thing, but I'm kinda on the fence with this one....

Mr. Jaynes, what puts you on the fence with this one?

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Originally posted by Composer

Mr. Jaynes, what puts you on the fence with this one?

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I'm trying to see if that particular area is the right fit for those particular businesses. I can see a Lowe's, but an IHOP?

You know, IHOP is really false advertising. My son speaks French and my daughter speaks Spanish and when we went there for pancakes, everything was in English.

Sure the menu had french toast and belgian waffles, but so does the Blue Dome Diner and they don't lie about being all foreign.  

It also isn't even a house...

Good point Michael.

I think IHOP has a great location there and I am sure they will say the same.  When I was in H.S., we would often go for late dinners and order breakfast.  Well, they are located near the largest H.S. in the state.  They also have visibility from the Broken Arrow Expressway.  With the new Target and Marshall's, traffic counts will only rise.  Right now, I think about 30,000 cpd go along 71st. and nearly 70,000 cpd along the BA Expressway.  With the added retail, 71st traffic counts will probably rise to as high as 36,000 cpd.

The IHOP has always been busy with not enough parking every time I go by it.

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Originally posted by mr.jaynes

I can see a Lowe's, but an IHOP?

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One of the first free exits coming off the Muskogee turnpike.    Nice spot for travelers and locals alike.

You should see the crowds in there on the weekends.

I agree with you TeeDub...It is a great location.  The city spent money many years ago to widen 71st to 6 lanes from Lynn Lane (177th) to County Line (193rd).  That was when Wal-Mart was over in that area.  

Once this area fills up with more retail, there will not be as much of a traffic problem that usually occurs around such developments.

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Originally posted by Composer

Good point Michael.

I think IHOP has a great location there and I am sure they will say the same.  When I was in H.S., we would often go for late dinners and order breakfast.  Well, they are located near the largest H.S. in the state.  They also have visibility from the Broken Arrow Expressway.  With the new Target and Marshall's, traffic counts will only rise.  Right now, I think about 30,000 cpd go along 71st. and nearly 70,000 cpd along the BA Expressway.  With the added retail, 71st traffic counts will probably rise to as high as 36,000 cpd.

The IHOP has always been busy with not enough parking every time I go by it.

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I did not go to Broken Arrow High School (my siblings did), but I must say that it is a very large campus (almost like a college campus). It's nice to have some development in that area, it's just that apart from the Lowe's, it all looks kinda random.

I agree that it might look random at the moment but within the next year, a new Target and Marshall's will begin construction to the west.  A Cinemark theater will be constructed this year as well.  I think in 2-3 years, the area will start to look like the Power Center it was intended to be.

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Originally posted by Composer

I agree that it might look random at the moment but within the next year, a new Target and Marshall's will begin construction to the west.  A Cinemark theater will be constructed this year as well.  I think in 2-3 years, the area will start to look like the Power Center it was intended to be.

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Besides Target, Marshalls and Cinemark, what else would find its way into that mix?

Here are the rumors that I have so far:

Olive Garden
Gordmans
Bed Bath and Beyond
Staples
Books-A-Million
Best Buy or Circuit City
Petsmart
Old Navy

So far, of all the stores mentioned to go into that developement, there is nothing that would make me want to go there.  Just the same old, same old.  And all of those stores are already found at places closer to me.  

As for having 6 lanes to speed traffic on Kenosha, it doesn't work over by Woodland Mall, I don't think it will work there either.  

I am sure that it will make a difference for those who live in that area, but there is no real draw to make me drive past already existing stores to get there.

The access directly off the highway as well as the assortment of stores without having to brave the 71st and 169 corridor should prove to be a wonderful benefit for Broken Arrow.

Maybe we can talk them into a Dave and Busters while we are at it.

Perfect location for a movie theatre- near the largest high school in the state.  More movies are target marketed to 13-21 year olds than any other age group.  IHOP also works well near a large high school population.  Try the IHOP on 71st and Garnett on a Friday night in the Fall around 10 pm.  The place is packed with Union HS kids after football games.  Not to mention all the parents.  The highway visibility and proximity of high school events will fare well for this IHOP.

Ahh...Dave and Busters would be a great addition to BA at The Park at Adam's Creek!

What the heck, why not just put up a new mall out there? More stores, more choices!

From what I am told, this will be about as close to a mall as they are getting over at 71st and 75..    

I thought that was going to be a mall too, until I was told by several people (I don't drive by there anymore) that it is going to just be a collection of big box stores.

Big-Box stores anchor these kind of projects and then the little specialty stores come.  They hold out and wait to see the kind of foot traffic that will follow.

what happened to the fried pie place next to Coney Island? I was out that way Wednesday and sign said closed....for good? I wanted a fried Apricot pie!!!!!

Santa Fe Cattle Co. Opens TODAY
The Park at Adam's Creek in Broken Arrow welcomes the addition of another restaurant.  At this time, it is the first Santa Fe. Cattle Co. in the Tulsa metro.  

Location: Right off the Broken Arrow Expressway and 71st.  (Take the Kenosha exit) and turn left.  The restaurant is next to TTCU and across from Buffalo Wild Wings.

Go check this place out.  If you visit, come back here with a review.

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Originally posted by ARGUS

what happened to the fried pie place next to Coney Island? I was out that way Wednesday and sign said closed....for good? I wanted a fried Apricot pie!!!!!

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Please don't tell me the Fried Pie store is closed for good.  That was the only place that I would drive that far out to get food.  They had GREAT pies.  I guess I just will not go out there anymore.  Pass through yes, as a destination, no.

Bid for Cinemark 12 - Broken Arrow is currently open

The new Broken Arrow theater will feature the state-of-the-art (XD) Extreme Digital Experience
There will be stadium seating throughout all rooms. 
Seating Capacity will be 2,100.

Whoa Nellie.

We that live way over here don't want to drive to Tulsa for the same old, same old.  We want some of it also.

We need the tax dollars here in East BA. 

You are correct in that it will make a difference to those who live in that area.

THe more areas that are developed accordingly will slowly lessen the traffic near 71st and Memorial.  Not noticeble maybe, but it would be worse if development over here did not take place.

Having the Target will help 71st and Garnett traffic but it is probably not really noticeable yet.  If Broken Arrow gets a Kohl's and when the new Cinemark 12 is built, it will be more noticeable. 

Just FYI, I comparison-shopped and found many prices at the BA target higher than the super target.

They have broken ground and have begun work on the Cinemark.

Cinemark 12 - Broken Arrow
Site should open in May 2010

From the BA Ledger
James Meredith, vice president of marketing and communications for Cinemark Holdings Inc., headquartered in Plano, Texas, is excited about the new, 12-screen Cinemark facility under construction on Hillside Drive in Broken Arrow.

"We are excited about the BA market and look forward to continuing our involvement with the local community," Meredith said.
The existing Cinemark 8 in BA will gain a "big sister" approximately eight miles northeast on Hillside Drive in a "booming" area of town, in addition to two Cinemark locations in Tulsa, one of which includes an IMAX® theater.

In the past 18 months, the one-mile stretch of Hillside Drive between Lynn Lane and County Line Road has seen 10 major retail stores and restaurants open. Some of them include Target Corp., PetSmart Inc., AT&T and Olive Garden. The addition of a 12-screen Cinemark cineplex adds another national and international chain to the mix.

Meredith said. "The theater is our standard configuration, and it will contain amenities that movie-goers have come to expect in an environment which best enhances the movie-going experience."

Cineplex standards, in head-to-head competition with home-theaters, depend on better "stuff" to meet customer expectations.
"The auditoriums will contain stadium seating with the high-back, rocker chairs and love-seats,and state-of-the-art audio and visual digital equipment,"Meredith said.