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Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: swake on November 15, 2007, 10:49:50 pm This would now be Tulsa's second Whole Foods (with the former Wild Oats) to be located in a new retail center at 81st and Lewis.
http://tulsacommercial.blogspot.com/2007/11/cityplex-towers-outparcels-to-be.html Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: sgrizzle on November 16, 2007, 08:59:40 am Not sur ehow much I trust the blog, but the added density and those two tenants would be nice. Rather see them at tulsa hills or riverwalk if they were building in that area, though.
Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: Ibanez on November 16, 2007, 12:40:22 pm I wish they would put one further South and East. We live in Bixby and drivng to 41st and Lewis to go to Wild Oats sucks. 81st is a little better...but not a whole lot.
Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: safetyguy on November 16, 2007, 03:22:04 pm Will it really be a Whole Foods or just a Wild Oats with the Whole Foods name?
It would be cool if it was a real Whole Foods. Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: FOTD on November 16, 2007, 04:25:43 pm TARGET had their sights on this parcel but moved their target site to Tulsa Hills.
Whole Foods will not come to Oklahoma unless they can sell booze. Doesn't this site prohibit booze? I sense the market has passed this location by.....maybe not. 200,000 sq. ft. Lifestyle Center? Mike and Richard? Holy rollers? Some bodies may be left as a result of a devil being behind this.... and it's not Gary Richardson. The devil is in the details.... The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~Bertrand Russell Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: swake on November 16, 2007, 04:47:08 pm quote: No, Target looked at a site at 91st and Delaware, not 81st and Lewis. And Whole Foods now has a store at 41st and Peoria Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: FOTD on November 16, 2007, 04:49:51 pm quote: Whatever..... The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~Bertrand Russell Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: safetyguy on November 17, 2007, 01:07:41 pm Is it going to be a REAL Whole Foods or just a Wild Oats with the Whole Foods name on it?
Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: safetyguy on November 17, 2007, 01:09:49 pm Whoops, sorry for the double post
Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: spoonbill on December 04, 2007, 04:49:46 pm There are some significant site issues. I have seen proposals for the site by at least 4 different entities in the last year. Every deal has fallen apart due to an inability to meet parking requirements or make the investment work. I have not seen the Whole Foods deal, but I doubt it is a real deal.
I'll be the first to jump for joy if someone can produce a successful project from this spot. Looks like a nice flat piece of land, but it's what you don't see that's important. Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: sgrizzle on December 04, 2007, 08:03:23 pm quote: I can imagine parking will always be an issue since a fully rented cityplex would require acres of parking without adding a big box theme park in the front yard. Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: TheArtist on December 04, 2007, 10:35:28 pm You would think that a fully rented cityplex could easily afford some more structured parking. Strange to see that large a building without it anyway. Dont know how much that property is worth but it might be worth it to build structured parking in order to sell a larger chunk.
Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: sgrizzle on December 05, 2007, 06:57:25 am quote: Cityplex (even when near capacity in the CFS days) had major leaks and chunks of the building falling off. That's not counting the escalators and elevators that weren't functional. It'd be nice if they could just afford maintenance. Title: Whole Foods at 81st and Lewis? Post by: spoonbill on December 05, 2007, 07:59:28 am quote: Yeah, the building's a mess. Looks nice from the outside, but it's got big problems. As for parking. . .I doesn't make the rules, my job is to try to get around them or change them. |