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Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 27, 2007, 06:52:27 pm
Larry Craig of Idaho.

What a creep...
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/08/flashback_larry_craig_called_bill_clinton_a_bad_boy_a_naughty_boy.php

(Sen.) Craig (R-Idaho) Arrested, Pleads Guilty Following Incident in Airport Restroom
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 09:14 PM by Newsjock
Source: Roll Call

Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) was arrested in June at a Minnesota airport by a plainclothes police officer investigating lewd conduct complaints in a men’s public restroom, according to an arrest report obtained by Roll Call Monday afternoon.

Craig’s arrest occurred just after noon on June 11 at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. On Aug. 8, he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor disorderly conduct in the Hennepin County District Court. He paid more than $500 in fines and fees, and a 10-day jail sentence was stayed. He also was given one year of probation with the court that began on Aug. 8.

A spokesman for Craig described the incident as a "he said/he said misunderstanding," and said the office would release a fuller statement later Monday afternoon.

After he was arrested, Craig, who is married, was taken to the Airport Police Operations Center to be interviewed about the lewd conduct incident, according to the police report. At one point during the interview, Craig handed the plainclothes sergeant who arrested him a business card that identified him as a U.S. Senator and said, "What do you think about that?" the report states.


Read more: http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/19 763-1...

What a party!!! We're going to have to have 3 bathrooms in our public buildings (Men, Women and republican).


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: Cubs on August 27, 2007, 10:36:26 pm
Yeah because all Republicans are sickos and Democrats never do anything wrong .... give me a break!


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: cannon_fodder on August 28, 2007, 08:24:27 am
You failed to mention that he was arrested for foot tapping...
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/related/198419.php

He was tapping his foot in the bathroom, the officer "knew this to be a sign" of signaling for gay sex and arrested him for disorderly conduct.    Some reports also indicate that the  Senator moved his foot under the divide and in some reports his hand could be seen under the stall divide. While certainly strange, it doesn't make complete sense to me on several levels and I don't think it would warrant an arrest.

First, why would someone who's livelihood depends on staying in the closet risk being exposed by coming on to strangers in a major airport?  Second, if foot tapping is an "everyone knows it" signal why would further clues be given?  And finally, why would any powerful and rich man pick up anyone of any sex in a public restroom when they could have whatever they wanted delivered in secret in DC?

I might be misconstruing this, but certainly this is no smoking gun.  and what does this have to do with his party affiliation?


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 28, 2007, 09:08:33 am
I hope so....there needs to be a democrat congress to recalibrate the mistakes over the past 6.5 years and to keep in check the next rebublican president should Hill get the nomination.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: cannon_fodder on August 28, 2007, 10:10:30 am
Here is the police report:
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/08/28/craig.incident.report.pdf

If the officers statements are correct, it is pretty damning.  He was appeared nervous when confronted by the officer and hesitated to comply.  I have to glancing threw cracks to see if stalls are actually occupied, fidgeting when I have to go the bathroom, and tapping my foot.  I could see where foot contact could occur, but fail to adequately explain hand waiving under the stall.

Even so, I believe my reaction would have been very different.  I would have probably been more mad than nervous - as in pancakes do you mean I'm under arrest for tapping my foot while crapping?

Still not a smoking gun, but very strange indeed.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: NellieBly on August 28, 2007, 11:05:53 am
I would say pleading guilty is about as smokin' as you can get.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: cannon_fodder on August 28, 2007, 11:12:40 am
He plead guilty to disorderly conduct.  Not public indecency, soliciting sex, or any other sex crime.  Disorderly Conduct is pretty much a BS crime that the government says you were doing something they didnt like.

Guilty to that, is meaningless.  I might plead guilty in his situation too to avoid going to court on solicitation charges.  Even if I did nothing wrong. Guilty pleas when being blackmailed by the government are very frequent.

Not saying that's what happened here.  I'm still in the air.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: NellieBly on August 28, 2007, 11:31:11 am
Why in the world would someone plead guilty to tapping his foot in the bathroom and pay a $500 fine. How in the world is that disruptive? I would be up in arms if my toe tapping while taking a leak was cause for arrest. So would everyone.

There have been questions about his gayness since his involvement in a 1982 page scandal was looked into by the FBI - back then he released a preemptive statement saying he wasn't gay when no one asked him. He then got married to a girl in his office. Instant family instant hetero.



Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: rwarn17588 on August 28, 2007, 11:49:00 am
Damned right. I'd fight a charge like that to the death.

The excuse pleading guilty for the sake of expediency doesn't wash.

Craig also had been rumored to be gay-trolling for decades. He got caught.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: sgrizzle on August 28, 2007, 12:03:17 pm
quote:
Originally posted by NellieBly

Why in the world would someone plead guilty to tapping his foot in the bathroom and pay a $500 fine. How in the world is that disruptive? I would be up in arms if my toe tapping while taking a leak was cause for arrest. So would everyone.



I've done far more disruptive things in the bathroom than tapping my feet.

I will make sure I have no tunes stuck in my head before going into public restrooms from now on.

Disorderly conduct? About everyone on this board is guilty of that. As far as we know he was trying to get the guy in the next stall to pass him toilet paper or light a match. All that he got convicted of was being annoying, since he is a politician, that is no surprise. Anything else is speculative.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: iplaw on August 28, 2007, 12:11:50 pm
Lawmaker (Democrat) Arrested On Drunk Driving Complaint

Drunk driving a-hole democrat. (http://"http://www.kotv.com/news/topstory/?id=134915")

Man.  All Democrats are a bunch of lying, drinking, murderers.  Come on guys, you find a Republican now that did something wrong and complain about that.  Then someone else can find another story about a Democrat and we can round and round all day long.

Sounds like so much fun...


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: Breadburner on August 28, 2007, 01:16:11 pm
quote:
Originally posted by NellieBly

I would say pleading guilty is about as smokin' as you can get.



You need to do some smokin.....


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: cannon_fodder on August 28, 2007, 01:23:05 pm
For a conservative Senator to plead guilty to a lessor charge to avoid trial for soliciting gay sex is not at all surprising.  He is officially and legally guilty of disorderly conduct, nothing more.  He is widely suspected of "gay activities" and this certainly could implicate those suspicions further.  

Then again, many people think Hil-dog is a man and have for over a decade now.  [;)]

Anyway, it certainly isnt a good thing.  But it is not enough to 100% convince me the guy was trying to [insert desired gay sexual reference here] in that bathroom.   I guess I inherently do not want to believe a US Senator, of any affiliation, could be that stupid.  Probably wishful thinking.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: guido911 on August 28, 2007, 02:22:29 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Cubs

Yeah because all Republicans are sickos and Democrats never do anything wrong .... give me a break!



Yep Cubs...Nothing to see here!!!

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/poor-sf-family-coincidentally-donates-45k-to-hillary-on-same-days-as-rich-businessman/

What is it with the Clintons and Asian campaign contributors...


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: Conan71 on August 28, 2007, 02:46:42 pm
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by Cubs

Yeah because all Republicans are sickos and Democrats never do anything wrong .... give me a break!



Yep Cubs...Nothing to see here!!!

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/poor-sf-family-coincidentally-donates-45k-to-hillary-on-same-days-as-rich-businessman/

What is it with the Clintons and Asian campaign contributors...



Hey Guido, how much you want to bet the Asian contributors were calling up to Barney Frank's condo looking for companionship.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: iplaw on August 28, 2007, 02:50:49 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by Cubs

Yeah because all Republicans are sickos and Democrats never do anything wrong .... give me a break!



Yep Cubs...Nothing to see here!!!

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/poor-sf-family-coincidentally-donates-45k-to-hillary-on-same-days-as-rich-businessman/

What is it with the Clintons and Asian campaign contributors...



Hey Guido, how much you want to bet the Asian contributors were calling up to Barney Frank's condo looking for companionship.

Only if it was THIS asian...

(http://www.hecklerspray.com/imppix/photos/uncategorized/george_takai_sulu_gay_pluto.jpg)

(http://www.agonybooth.com/extras/trek/and_the_children/sulu.jpg)

Oh, Hellooooo....


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: Breadburner on August 28, 2007, 03:12:26 pm
Off topic deleted. Makes the following statement kind of random now...

Typing in caps on the net is considered yelling....


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: Moderator on August 28, 2007, 04:16:34 pm
This thread has been reverted to a neutral title.

I have sanitized off topic areas, deleting the replies that were off topic was less destructive than locking the thread.  Please do not let personal issues destroy the discussion on this topic.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 28, 2007, 06:36:07 pm
Larry Craig is pale in comparison to TNF editors, moderators, and administrators.

No poster should trust confidentiality here.

They have disclosed my name, my moniker and my password to others on and off the board.

YOU MAY BE NEXT!!!!


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: Admin on August 28, 2007, 07:15:48 pm
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

Larry Craig is pale in comparison to TNF editors, moderators, and administrators.

No poster should trust confidentiality here.

They have disclosed my name, my moniker and my password to others on and off the board.

YOU MAY BE NEXT!!!!



We have discussed this in email and I am happy to discuss it with you further. Your password is encrypted and while I can change it, I can't view it. As to what happened to your thread title, I have only been on for the past few minutes so I can't address that issue.

Keep it on topic and we'll talk later.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: aoxamaxoa on August 28, 2007, 07:53:13 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Admin

quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

Larry Craig is pale in comparison to TNF editors, moderators, and administrators.

No poster should trust confidentiality here.

They have disclosed my name, my moniker and my password to others on and off the board.

YOU MAY BE NEXT!!!!



We have discussed this in email and I am happy to discuss it with you further. Your password is encrypted and while I can change it, I can't view it. As to what happened to your thread title, I have only been on for the past few minutes so I can't address that issue.

Keep it on topic and we'll talk later.



Mista Moderator....I changed the title this time...and added the link at the top because I find the denials hillarious as I do the way he charged PRESIDENT Clinton in '99.

Politics is a dirty business. I know. Today, on this very thread, I was the victim.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: guido911 on August 28, 2007, 08:05:23 pm
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by Cubs

Yeah because all Republicans are sickos and Democrats never do anything wrong .... give me a break!



Yep Cubs...Nothing to see here!!!

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/08/28/poor-sf-family-coincidentally-donates-45k-to-hillary-on-same-days-as-rich-businessman/

What is it with the Clintons and Asian campaign contributors...



Hey Guido, how much you want to bet the Asian contributors were calling up to Barney Frank's condo looking for companionship.

Only if it was THIS asian...

(http://www.hecklerspray.com/imppix/photos/uncategorized/george_takai_sulu_gay_pluto.jpg)

(http://www.agonybooth.com/extras/trek/and_the_children/sulu.jpg)

Oh, Hellooooo....



OMG!!!

BTW, did you see Takei on the Shatner Roast?


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: iplaw on August 29, 2007, 07:17:30 am
^^  Nope.  I'm sure it was great.  I love the shat.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: grahambino on August 29, 2007, 10:38:47 am
You dont think they had a plainclothes cop planted in the men's room a reason?
they suspected and knew that hanky panky was going on. so the cops obviously know the signs that these guys will give to each other.

Mr. Craig just happened to do 3 or 4 during his trip to the mens room...coincidentally.  

Im not sure about you guys, but I have never peered through the crack of a closed stall.  I have never moved my foot into contact w/ the person's foot in the next stall, i have never reached under the stall at a guy next to me, either.  

If i see a guy peering through the crack when im in a stall, he's going to get a plainly audible 'pancakes are you looking at?' out of me.

so many instantly give a cop the benefit of the doubt (i.e. killing a suspect in 'self defense')...but...this is different somehow, right?  

Furthermore, you don't think the timing of this is at all suspect?  Lots of big stories in the news so far this week, they're hoping to do some damage control.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: booWorld on September 02, 2007, 03:28:33 am
Never mind getting that I-35 bridge inspected and repaired; there are potties to be patrolled at the airport!  

Priorities, priorities....


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: FOTD on December 03, 2007, 12:05:54 am
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/226703.html

They are telling their stories now because they are offended by Craig's denials, including his famous statement, "I am not gay, I never have been gay." Those words, spoken on live national TV on Aug. 28, are now memorialized on a just-released-for-Christmas Talking Senator Larry Craig Action Figure.

uh oh


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: Conan71 on December 03, 2007, 10:23:14 am
Bumping your old threads Aox?  I thought you were banned for life.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: FOTD on December 03, 2007, 01:04:53 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Bumping your old threads Aox?  I thought you were banned for life.



Looks like his threads were all altered.

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~Bertrand Russell


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 03, 2007, 01:54:18 pm
If by "altered" you mean moderated and by "all" you mean his obnoxious ones containing personal insults, personal information, and conspiracy theories - then yes.

In most places, trying to go around a ban just results in another ban.  Your lucky the mods around here see fit to let you continue your charade for some reason, in spite of their legendary hostility towards AOX alone.  I figured you would try to keep a lower profile this time but it looks like your already heading in the right direction!


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: guido911 on December 03, 2007, 06:52:01 pm
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Bumping your old threads Aox?  I thought you were banned for life.



Looks like his threads were all altered.

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~Bertrand Russell



Good timing FOTD:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/1203072senate1.html



Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: Breadburner on December 03, 2007, 07:42:15 pm
quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Bumping your old threads Aox?  I thought you were banned for life.



Looks like his threads were all altered.

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~Bertrand Russell



Your in third person....Back to the meds ....Don't you have a parking lot to sweep.....


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: Conan71 on December 03, 2007, 10:35:07 pm
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Bumping your old threads Aox?  I thought you were banned for life.



Looks like his threads were all altered.

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~Bertrand Russell



Good timing FOTD:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/1203072senate1.html





Someone send that to DoubleA since he seems to think the chauffer of the brother of a chief of staff of some Republican Senator being caught with a copy of donkey Busters magazine is a Republican sex scandal.

What ever happend to the Sh!t-bomb that Larry Flynt was about to unload on some hapless Senator???


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: FOTD on December 03, 2007, 11:31:39 pm
Tsk Tsk.... It fits alright. I'm full of doubt though....

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/02/craig.sex.allegations/

Talk about cocksure.....


The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. ~Bertrand Russell



Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 04, 2007, 08:41:23 am
Holy crap!  Senator Craig is homophobic a closet case homosexual!

Thanks for the news.


Title: Another Nasty Bad Boy Repug
Post by: FOTD on June 09, 2008, 04:09:26 pm
Sorry....can't resist....

http://kcblueblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/republican-lt-governor-chief-of-staff.html

Republican Lt. Governor Chief of Staff and Former Hulshof Staffer Charged With Pornography to Minor On Internet

"The Chief of Staff to Republican Lt. Governor Peter Kinder and former staffer to Republican Gubernatorial Candidate Kenny Hulshoff has been charged with showing pornography to a minor.

Republican hypocrisy hits Missouri once again as Eric Feltner, Chief of Staff to Republican Lt. Governor Peter Kinder and ex-staffer to Republican Kenny Hulshoff, was caught up in an Internet sex sting chatting with what he thought was a 13 year old.

This is another serious blow to the Missouri Republican Party which has been plagued with scandals.

Kinder is in a tough fight for re-election against Rep. Sam Page and Hulshoff is in a heated primary with Republican Sarah Steelman. The winner is almost sure to lose to Democrat Jay Nixon. "

Swing state (no pun intended) and this does not help McFrankenstein.