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Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: brunoflipper on July 10, 2007, 01:41:05 pm riverside up to downtown... smells like natural gas... the refineries must be going nuts... holy crap that is giving me a headache...
Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: TulsaSooner on July 10, 2007, 01:42:34 pm I can smell it in my office building as well.
I'm sure it's perfectly safe. [B)] There was a natural gas leak downtown yesterday, haven't heard about anything today. Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Conan71 on July 10, 2007, 01:43:19 pm Smells like teen spirit.
Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: TulsaSooner on July 10, 2007, 01:44:33 pm I think it's the City Hall mold.
Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: patric on July 10, 2007, 02:55:21 pm quote: Thought it was something across the street... Very strong odor of Mercaptan (which rules out natural seepage from rotting vegitation). Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: sgrizzle on July 10, 2007, 02:57:40 pm http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0707/438166.html
Mercaptan leak. World's largest stink bomb. Heh. Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: AMP on July 10, 2007, 03:20:20 pm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanethiol
The United States material safety data sheet (MSDS) lists methanethiol as a colorless, flammable gas with an extremely strong and repulsive smell. At very high concentrations it is highly toxic and affects the central nervous system. Its penetrating odor provides warning at dangerous concentrations. An odor threshold of 0.002 ppm has been reported. The United States OSHA Permissible Exposure Limit is listed as 10 ppm. News 8 reported: "The chemical is harmless and non-toxic." Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Conan71 on July 10, 2007, 04:11:51 pm Yeah, but you failed to post the most salient paragraph of the Wiki article:
"Methanethiol (also known as methyl mercaptan) is a colorless gas with a smell like rotten cabbage. It is a natural substance found in the blood, brain, and other tissues of people and animals. It is released from animal feces. It occurs naturally in certain foods, such as some nuts and cheese. It is also one of the main chemicals responsible for bad breath and the smell in flatulence. " No wonder it stinks like s#$t. Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Ibanez on July 10, 2007, 05:43:07 pm No f'ing wonder we all had headaches. The smell hit our building and everyone was wondering pancakes what going on. Within 15 minutes most of us had killer headaches.
(&^@#%@#%!!!! Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: NellieBly on July 11, 2007, 09:06:25 am You could smell it clear out at 41st and Sheridan.
Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: sgrizzle on July 11, 2007, 09:10:58 am quote: I live further away than that and it reached my house. Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: sauerkraut on July 14, 2007, 09:24:05 am They say it stunk all the way over to Jenks. It was also in GlenPool. What the heck is it? was it?[:P]
Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Kingdaddy on July 14, 2007, 11:30:59 am Funny story regarding that smell...
A couple of years ago my wife an I had just moved to the Brookside area. We were enjoying a nice glass of vino late one night and decided to sit on the porch. When we walked out we were slapped in the face by that awful "natural gas" smell. I called the non-emergency police line and let them know. 10 minutes later we had 2 Tulsa Fire Trucks, sirens blaring, pull up in front of our house! I went out and said I had called the NON Emergency line and they responded a "gas" smell is not to be taken lightly... So what WAS that smell??? The fricken refineries across the river. We told the firefighters we were sorry to have made a mountain out of a molehill, but we were new to the area and had never smelled it before. Needless to say, we were extremely embarrassed (all of our neighbors came outside), but the firefighters laughed it off and said no problem. Nice to know how quickly they responded though...[:O][:I][}:)] Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: waterboy on July 15, 2007, 08:40:37 am I was around the 101st and Mingo area and I thought a sick dog had pooped near my car. Never smelled refinery stink that far away and I've lived here 5 decades. This was curious.
Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: patric on July 15, 2007, 10:57:34 am quote: Kind of makes you wonder how we would fare in an actual chemical emergency or attack. Probably not as well as Homeland Security would like us to believe. We used to have voice warnings over the siren network when something was wrong, but not now. Any local station break into programming with this? And really, how many Tulsan's duct-taped themselves a safe area inside a hallway while this was happening? Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: sauerkraut on July 15, 2007, 11:51:25 am If that smell is the refineries across the river we need to enjoy it. Fuel prices are high enough as it is. Let the refinery do it's job. Any blip with the refineries and pump prices could pass the $4.00 level overnight. The QT man is out there just waiting to change the "3" on the price sign to a "4".[B)]
Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Kingdaddy on July 15, 2007, 12:21:43 pm quote: “The sound shivers through the walls, through the table, through the window frame, and into my finger. These distraction-oholics. These focus-ophobics. Old George Orwell got it backward. Big Brother isn't watching. He's singing and dancing. He's pulling rabbits out of a hat. Big Brother's holding your attention every moment you're awake. He's making sure you're always distracted. He's making sure you're fully absorbed... and this being fed, it's worse than being watched. With the world always filling you, no one has to worry about what's in your mind. With everyone's imagination atrophied, no one will ever be a threat to the world.” ~Chuck Palahniuk Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: RecycleMichael on July 15, 2007, 01:01:56 pm quote: This smell did not come from the refinery. It came from a hazardous waste company at 20th and Southwest Boulevard named Envirosolve. They process, re-package and ship hazardous waste, mostly from heavy industrial companies in the Tulsa area. They handle some very nasty stuff and some workers made a mistake. Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: waterboy on July 15, 2007, 04:08:31 pm So why wasn't it reported? Did I miss it?
Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: AMP on July 15, 2007, 10:32:37 pm Was covered in this thread and on TV...
Sqrizzle posted this in this thread above.. Post #6 ____________________________________________ http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0707/438166.html Mercaptan leak. World's largest stink bomb. Heh. Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: patric on March 15, 2008, 09:49:46 pm Apparently there on fire again.
Close your windows... Several fire crews and hazmat teams are on the scene of a business fire near 21st and Southwest Blvd. They're fighting flames at EnviroSolve, a hazardous materials disposal company. A News On 6 crew is on the scene but firefighters have asked crews to back up because the fumes from the fire could be toxic. The only people allowed close to the scene are wearing gas masks. Southwest Boulevard is blocked off around the fire. Updated: March 15, 2008 10:36 PM Title: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: USRufnex on March 15, 2008, 10:46:10 pm 21st & Southwest Blvd...?
Gee, that'd be a great area for: "700,000 square feet of retail, restaurant and office space; 90 to 100 condos; three to four acres of open space; amphitheater; multiuse sports complex; 4-star hotel; museum or cultural events center..." I can't believe the Drillers weren't all that interested in playing in a ballpark sandwiched in-between two oil refineries and down the street from this.... http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2005/01/03/daily34.html /sarcasm. [B)] Title: Re: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: patric on July 05, 2009, 12:43:09 pm They're at it again.....
TULSA, OK -- Several southwest Tulsa residents, firefighters and police officers were treated for respiratory problems after a chemical cloud billowed out from Envirosolve, a hazardous waste management company located at 2120 Southwest Boulevard. The incident happened just after midnight Sunday morning. Tulsa firefighters responding to the hazmat call found vapors coming from an 85-gallon drum containing sodium percarbonate, a chemical used in portable toilets and septic tanks. It appears that an increase in humidity caused a reaction with the chemical and caused a vapor release, according to reports from the TFD. The chemical cloud stayed close to the ground and spread southeast from the business. The vapors caused irritation to the eyes and nose, and several Tulsa fire crews were evaluated for these symptoms. Residents in a nearby apartment complex as well as the emergency response crews were treated by EMSA paramedics in the incident. Title: Re: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Rico on July 05, 2009, 09:41:20 pm So I guess the condos and everything are kinda on hold now huh..?
Title: Re: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Wrinkle on July 05, 2009, 10:32:15 pm Strike Three, and we're not talkin' ballparks.
Why does the City continue to permit (zone) these types of uses directly upstream from our predominant wind? A river is no boundary when it comes to air. btw, according to wikipedia, sodium perchlorate is non-hazardous. So, why was anyone 'treated' for exposure? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_percarbonate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_percarbonate) Title: Re: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: nathanm on July 06, 2009, 12:27:12 am btw, according to wikipedia, sodium perchlorate is non-hazardous. So, why was anyone 'treated' for exposure? First off, you linked to the wrong substance. Secondly, if you read the MSDS for the correct substance, you'll see that "prolonged exposure may result in skin burns and ulcerations." And "over-exposure by inhalation may cause respiratory irritation."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_percarbonate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_percarbonate) Moreover "The substance may be toxic to blood, kidneys, liver, thyroid. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage." Worse, it explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJVOUgCm5Jk) (that's ammonium perchlorate, but they are used for the same thing) when it gets hot and is a powerful oxidizer. Sodium percarbonate, on the other hand, while it can cause skin burns and lung and eye irritation, doesn't damage your internal organs so badly, and reacts violently with water. Title: Re: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: waterboy on July 06, 2009, 06:02:10 am Just what is our predominant wind? My home faces the South. Judging by the leaves and grass clippngs I clean up, it blows from the south all summer, and from the north all winter. During the rainy spring it seems to come from the southwest. So where would a "safe" place be?
My irritation is that they seem to place these things near waterways that course through metropolitan areas. That comes from the fact that most industry and railroads located near those same waterways during the last 150 years. They didn't know any better, but we do. Title: Re: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Wrinkle on July 06, 2009, 08:28:45 am First off, you linked to the wrong substance. Secondly, if you read the MSDS for the correct substance, you'll see that "prolonged exposure may result in skin burns and ulcerations." And "over-exposure by inhalation may cause respiratory irritation." Moreover "The substance may be toxic to blood, kidneys, liver, thyroid. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage." Worse, it explodes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJVOUgCm5Jk) (that's ammonium perchlorate, but they are used for the same thing) when it gets hot and is a powerful oxidizer. Sodium percarbonate, on the other hand, while it can cause skin burns and lung and eye irritation, doesn't damage your internal organs so badly, and reacts violently with water. Well, actually, it's correctly linked, I just mis-stated it in the prior statement (incorrectly as "perchlorate" rather than "percarbonate"). The percarbonate is not considered hazardous. Hot butter will cause skin irritation. Seems to me stuff that reacts so with water would be stored where it wouldn't get wet. Title: Re: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Wrinkle on July 06, 2009, 08:30:38 am Just what is our predominant wind? My home faces the South. Judging by the leaves and grass clippngs I clean up, it blows from the south all summer, and from the north all winter. During the rainy spring it seems to come from the southwest. So where would a "safe" place be? My irritation is that they seem to place these things near waterways that course through metropolitan areas. That comes from the fact that most industry and railroads located near those same waterways during the last 150 years. They didn't know any better, but we do. I'd agree, however, ALL wind here has an easterly component. Something about large rotating masses. Anywhere east of the city would be 100 times better than immediately west of a major metropolitan area. Title: Re: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: Hometown on July 06, 2009, 11:39:27 am You might as well keep this thread around so that every few months we can express our displeasure at the smell. Notice I didn’t say, "shock" and "surprise."
After being back in Tulsa for four years and analyzing the situation I would say that, barring a miracle, Tulsa will stink for the rest of our lives. Tulsa’s air will be hazardous to our health for the rest of our (shortened lives) and what’s more, we are thankful for it. God bless Tulsa. There’s no place else like our stinking home. Title: Re: wth is that smell??? smells like NG... ????? Post by: nathanm on July 06, 2009, 04:22:02 pm Well, actually, it's correctly linked, I just mis-stated it in the prior statement (incorrectly as "perchlorate" rather than "percarbonate"). You're right, I was having a blind moment there.The percarbonate is slightly hazardous, but not nearly as much. According to the MSDS it can cause respiratory irritation when inhaled. It can also cause skin blistering at high exposure, but as you said, hot butter will burn you, too. ;) |