Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: MichaelC on May 01, 2007, 11:15:03 am From KTUL (http://"http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0507/419241.html")
quote: Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: sgrizzle on May 01, 2007, 11:32:31 am This development was brought up on the board before several months ago. This is the group that bought the potential bell's property.
I like it when the board scoops the news. Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: Porky on May 01, 2007, 11:35:38 am I saw this on the news last night and it looks as though Jenks has more positive growth ahead.
I'll never understand why Tulsa just doesn't get what it takes for development when Owasso, BA and Jenks are showing them how it is done......absolutely unbelievable. [B)] Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: Cubs on May 01, 2007, 09:29:27 pm they have big plans, but who knows if they will be successful ..... i still dont find the riverwalk crossing to be anything special and they act like it is the greatest .... so who knows
Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: TheArtist on May 02, 2007, 07:14:10 am I think I remember reading that it was going to take about a year just to do the environmental impact study and to design the new dam for Tulsa, let alone how long it will take to get the money for it or to build it.
But I wonder did the Riverwalk and Kings Landing have to do an environmental impact study? Will this new development in Jenks have to do that? Why would Tulsa have to do an environmental impact study and not Jenks? Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: sgrizzle on May 02, 2007, 08:12:33 am Likely but the river is considered a wildlife habitat and also effects a lot of other economic "stuff."
Riverwalk was built on the "floodme" side of the levee and may be considered not much impact. Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: Ibanez on May 02, 2007, 08:43:15 am and still Sand Springs does nothing.
Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: AJ on May 02, 2007, 02:58:42 pm quote: Oooh but we have new fences and signs [;)] Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: sgrizzle on May 03, 2007, 06:36:52 am Sand Springs exists so the slow progress in Tulsa looks fast.
Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: AJ on May 03, 2007, 12:41:45 pm quote: LOL You may have a point there. Personally speaking, Im ok with the slow progress in SS. We stayed here to raise our family because we liked the small town charm/atmosphere. The growth we have had here has just made the schools crowded, the streets congested and crime has increased. The city leaders havent/arent doing anything about those problems. And it will only get worse... But Im just a resident here, so what do I know? Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: TheArtist on May 03, 2007, 06:40:45 pm I have always thought Sand Springs had more potential as a touristy type getaway, kind of like Eureka Springs, than Jenks. Perhaps its downtown being in a hilly area versus flat has something to do with it. It has more, nicer, and larger old buildings in its downtown. A bit of some some strategic infill with similar old timey buildings would go a long way to clinching a very nice atmosphere.
To me Jenks just seems like part of Tulsa. But when I go to Sand Springs its like going some place else, actually getting out of town. Even the feel of the place, the types of trees, rocks, landscape etc. feel different than most places in Tulsa, south Tulsa and Jenks. I hope whatever growth happens in their downtown and along the river, keeps that small town "different" feel. We don't need any more typical Bixby, BA, Jenks, type sprawl. Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: tomokla on May 03, 2007, 08:19:52 pm Yeah, I moved to SS from Broken Arrow and I've been happy with the growth. Granted I don't think much happened here between 1970 and 2000, but I see lots of dirt moving everyday and noticed that ST Johns and Utica Park are building new facilities in the city. Every city has its people who prefer to gripe then actually work towards a solution but I'm shocked that I have a drug store, QT, my dentist, my doctor several fast food restaurants, several "mom and pop" restaurants, a fire station and a place to change my oil less then 1 mile from my house and yet I can still be in DT Tulsa in 5 minutes. When some more sit down food comes to town along with an Old Navy or Kohl's and a home improvement store I don't think I'll have to ever go to Tulsa. I agree with the previous member who wants the development to coincide with our current architecture...I hope it does. It seems like other people are quick to charge city leaders with doing "nothing" but everyone currently working in the city leadership is relatively new (new PW Director, New City Manager, New Asst. City Manager, etc). From what I've heard this V2025 area will be awesome, but it is easy to get frustrated since you have SO many landowners to deal with (not to mention the railroad, church , etc). I've seen plenty of progress over the last year and I have complete faith that the result will be worth waiting for. I get impatient to, but I think rather then passing blame, I'm going to call and let my city know I appreciate the "little things" they're doing to make us look better (signs, fences, etc) and see if there is anything I can do to help the process, or I could just find fault with everyone else's actions - - - I wonder which one is more likely to produce a positive result?
Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: RecycleMichael on May 03, 2007, 08:46:31 pm My recycling center is Sand Springs does great business. It is my number two center in pounds per person, trailing only Jenks.
It is located at Main and Morrow road. Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: sgrizzle on May 03, 2007, 09:03:58 pm quote: The whole sand springs corridor, riverfront, main street all have potential. I just know SS has the rep of being a real blue collar town so it'll be interesting to see what kind of identity Sand Springs forms during this whole revitalization. Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: Ibanez on May 04, 2007, 07:54:46 am quote: I have tried to do things to help. I've gone to council meetings, I've called my city councilman, etc.... with ideas and suggestions that I had and that I have heard from my neighbors. Our number 1 request? Please do whatever it takes to get a real grocery store to move to town. Each time that has been brought up we hear the same canned answer. "We already have a Wal-Mart Supercenter. What more could you ask for?" Geez. Another request we have made, and it goes with what recyclemichael posted, is for curb side recycling. The typical response from various city leadership has always been "We don't believe it is needed." Right. Anyway. As for the town leadership being new. Don't kid yourself. It is the same recycled "Good Ol Boys" network that has been running the city for as long as I have been politically aware of what goes on in the city. Say around 1980 or so. The City Manager is new and an outsider, but how much do you think he can get done considering he is appointed/hired by the council and can be done away with on a whim? The sad thing is that for whatever reason the city leadership is slow moving, has no strategic plan or vision for where they want to go and seems to not care what citizens think. As AJ posted. The new signs and fences look nice, but from the way the city leadership acted when they were going up you would have thought Sand Springs had just landed and new manufacturing plant that would create 10,000 jobs, a world class museum and a retail district that would rival Utica Square. To me it is pretty telling that the City Leadership and the Chamber of Commerce hate each other. Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: Ibanez on May 04, 2007, 07:55:52 am quote: I use it frequently. Title: Bricktown Developer eyeing Jenks Riverwalk Post by: tomokla on May 04, 2007, 12:56:02 pm The city and the chamber don't seem to get along, but it seems many cities have that issue these days (I know BA and Coweta for sure). It seems like many of the issues you identified, I agree with. I'd love to the curbside recycling and a better grocery store. These things take time and people to put some effort into championing the cause - my personal opinion is that we have a good city now and the next 5 years will be the difference. Even with the "blue collar" reputation (which is accurate) Sand Springs still has the 2nd highest average price for new construction homes and is seeing significant transformation for housing starts in and outside of the city limits. A strategic plan is likely in the works I'd imagine.
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