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I remember that he crashed a plane in Claremore a couple of years ago and now he crashes one at Riverside airport.

I know he doesn't believe in global warming. Does he believe in gravity?

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Originally posted by recyclemichael

I remember that he crashed a plane in Claremore a couple of years ago and now he crashes one at Riverside airport.

I know he doesn't believe in global warming. Does he believe in gravity?

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Your wrong again....Just like the Bell's post....The plan landed safely then he looped it a couple of times on the runway...Hardly a crash.....

His prop came off between Pryor and Claremore the last time and he greased it in for a good landing at the Claremore airport.

Truly sad news about the two AME's killed in the last three months, both were quite well-respected aviators.  Baldwin had done one of my medicals when I was still flying.  I was saddened to hear it.

Landing = controlled crash

Inhoffe should take recent events as a hint. Three well known pilots (the two docs plus their friend) and inhoffe averts it twice.

Time to visit southwest.com while you're still alive, jack.

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Your wrong again....Just like the Bell's post....The plan landed safely then he looped it a couple of times on the runway...Hardly a crash.....

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I'm glad to know that Jim has a friend to defend him on the forum.

This story says that his prop hit the runway and caused the plane to spin out of control. There was damage to the plane.

http://www.newsok.com/article/2951756

You are right. It is probably not a crash by technical terms. I should have named the thread "Inhofe out of control and walks away".

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Jim Inhofe fuel's his plane.

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Jim lands at Riverside Airport

Hmmm, Finnerty says it might have been a rudder problem that caused the prop strike.  I believe the RV-8 design is strictly a "tail dragger" configuration like the one pictured which means the arc of the prop should be rotating higher above the runway on the ground than a tricycle gear aircraft:

http://phil-bartlett.fotopic.net/p31933387.html

(sorry image wouldn't show up, you'll have to click)

Sounds like a ground loop, which is not uncommon in tail draggers with a good cross-wind on the ground.

At any rate, I'm thinkin' Inhoffe is making someone rich with prop work.

Great photos and commentary AOT- thanks for the chuckle!

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Originally posted by Breadburner

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Originally posted by recyclemichael

I remember that he crashed a plane in Claremore a couple of years ago and now he crashes one at Riverside airport.

I know he doesn't believe in global warming. Does he believe in gravity?

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Your wrong again....Just like the Bell's post....The plan landed safely then he looped it a couple of times on the runway...Hardly a crash.....

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So the plane sustains "significant damage" during the process of landing it and you don't call that a crash?

No pilots artfully dodge the term "crash" in a case like that by using the term "prop-strike."

Not that it makes a difference to the FAA or their insurance, it just allows them to say: "Nope, I've never crashed one but I've had a few belly landin's and prop-strikes". [;)]

Swerved to avoid a deer Sunday, while making an emergency landing.   ::)

A hop down memory lane...
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/more-scary-details-inhofe-plane-landing-709651

Gold.

This would not be newsworthy if it had been anyone other than Inhofe.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/plane-flown-by-sen-jim-inhofe-runs-off-runway-during/article_40d875aa-1443-5ff0-a8ce-eeadc2184547.html

Disagree.  The initial report filed by the TV station at that point they didn't know who the pilot was.

Disagree.  Just because it was on the TV doesn't mean it was really newsworthy.  It must have been a slow day.

If the TV news doesn't pick it up it's not newsworthy? Uh...ok?  Whatevs....

How does a man in his eighties manage to pass a flight physical?

Pardon me.  I thought you wrote that the TV did pick up on it before they knew it was Inhofe.

Whatever right back at you.

He might actually be reasonably healthy.  2nd and 3rd Class physicals are not as tough as the 1st Class required of airline pilots (and some others).

I did...which directly contradicted your notion that it wouldn't have been newsworthy if it were anyone other than Inhofe.  Pay attention!  :)

He's also pushing a bill for the FAA to do away with the 3rd Class physical if I'm not mistaken.

Edit:  He is.  Or was.  Not sure on the status of this bill...

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2015/february/26/medical-reform-legislation-introduced-in-house-and-senate

Kinda sketchy if you want my opinion on it.

Pay attention yourself.  I made the statement that it just plain wasn't newsworthy in my reply about it being a slow day.

So are you saying you didn't say this?

"This would not be newsworthy if it had been anyone other than Inhofe."

Once again we disagree.  

I think getting rid of the 3rd class medical for private pilots is a good idea.  The new status, as I understand it, is that pilots will still have to see a private physician on a regular basis regarding their flying but not an AME.  There are a few other caveats like having passed a 3rd class physical within the past 10 years and not having failed one.  The original goal was to have private pilots fly with a current driver's license.  I believe Light Sport pilots can presently do that.  Glider pilots and balloon pilots are not required to have a FAA Medical.  There are also some aircraft weight and number of passengers limits.  Altitude would be limited to 18,000 ft MSL so no flying in Class A airspace. If you don't want those restrictions, you could still opt to get the Medical.

Not everyone is flying FA-18s.

I'm not saying I disagree with it.  I'm saying it's a little sketchy given who wanted to introduce it and given his recent flying 'record'.

Is there something you cannot understand about
or are you conveniently ignoring it?  I hate to quote myself but you evidently misunderstood it as you quoted it too.

You had asked:

I will try to spell it out for you in case you are hitting the Marshall's a bit early today.

I believe that just because the TV covers something doesn't really make it newsworthy, in my opinion.  If the TV doesn't cover it, it doesn't mean it is not newsworthy, in my opinion.  I am not asking you to agree.

There are a lot more people behind it than Inhofe.  That removes the "sketchy" for me.

I heard on the Ch6 news today the the airport manager stated that Inhofe departed the runway to avoid hitting a deer.  I would probably have done the same, if able, with only that information.  About 15 years ago, I was with a friend when we hit a deer on the runway.  We had no time to take evasive action.  The deer collapsed the nose gear.  $87,000 and several months later the plane was flying again.

Deer on the runway are not to be messed with.

Thanks for...explaining that?

Enjoy your holiday.

Agree with that.  Flying into Pogue with a friend we saw some deer dart across the runway just as we'd departed to the taxiway.

I guess my big problem with Inhofe still is the way he handled the Port Isabel airport incident.  It's pretty difficult to miss the big yellow Xs on runways to denote closure.  I remember the big discussion on here about it.  Had that been an average joe with an ASEL, that average joe would no longer have the paper.

Finally, something we can agree on.  Landing on a closed runway, especially with workers present, was not entirely brilliant.  I think average Joe would have eventually gotten back in the air but it would have been a lot more difficult.

Aside from the fact that you should get that kinda of info PREFLIGHT!

You're welcome.
Enjoy your holiday too.

Yep.
Things can change from preflight to arrival but not on that scale.

True but one of the very best things to come out of that was the Pilots Bill of Rights and the requirement that Center or Approach Controllers now ask for confirmation that you have the weather and NOTAMS at your destination or they give them to you prior to clearing you for the approach.  Things do change after preflight.

I see/hear the Senator at Tulsa Riverside frequently, just last Thursday afternoon he was flying his Tiger (sounded like he was giving a lesson or practicing emergency procedures as he requested a short approach with a simulated engine out) and he landed behind me on a very HOT bumpy day with a bright sun shining on a very black runway (think float forever) with a bit of a right crosswind and as I taxied I watched his touchdown and roll out and I'll freely admit it his was better than mine...

Those of us who fly tail wheel aircraft understand the occasional runway departure, be it from a adverse gust, animal avoidance or just sleepy feet a little behind the aircraft and it happens but it only makes the news when someone of note is doing the flying.  

Besides flying I also see him running the perimeter road, regularly.

As long as he is jogging or in his plane then he can't be making a donkey of himself on the senate floor. I think the thing that bugs me the most is I don't think his stunts and statements are true to his real opinions, you can see the almost see the oil lobbyist putting money in his back pocket every time he disputes climate change.

He was actually a pretty good legislator when he was in the House.  Now he just comes off as a bitter old troll.  He needs to retire.

Dear Lord, what would Oklahoma voters replace him with. I bet our next senator will make Ted Cruz look moderate.
I never thought I would miss Tom Coburn.

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You could get him a test drive in a Tesla and have him tryout the autopilot feature...........

Tesla?  Pshaw!  He'd then be thought of as someone who believes in climate change.  Can't be having that or he won't be able to throw snowballs on the chamber floors anymore!

Not much chance of that, even with a Tesla.   ;D