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Title: "Tulsa Tough" - Huge Cycling Event!
Post by: PonderInc on May 31, 2006, 01:25:17 pm
This weekend, get ready for a huge cycling event called "Tulsa Tough!"  Professional and amateur cyclists from around the country will descend upon Tulsa for 3 days of Criterium racing.  Criterium racing takes place on city streets, with about a hundred riders looping around and around the course...the better for spectators to see the race.

Events will be staged from the Blue Dome, Brady, and Riverside Drive areas.  Races will be held Friday, Saturday and Sunday (June 2-4).  Rides for the rest of us include 100 mile, 75 KM, and 50 KM events which will take place on Saturday and Sunday (June 3 & 4).

For more information: www.tulsatough.com

If you'd like to help support this event (which is already on next year's pro cycling calendar), go to the website and click on "volunteer."  (I know they still need volunteers to man rest-stops, and "sag wagon" drivers for the 100 mile rides.  

Otherwise, just show up and enjoy the events!(Did I mention live music and kids stuff, too?)


Title: Tulsa Tough
Post by: DolfanBob on June 10, 2015, 09:13:29 am
IT'S BAAAAACK! Time to ride and Cry Baby Hill.  ;D

http://www.tulsaworld.com/weekend/cover_story/tulsa-s-embrace-of-tulsa-tough-continues-to-grow-after/article_97f3f545-a38c-5840-8dff-26694914a686.html


Title: Re:
Post by: Ed W on June 10, 2015, 10:23:08 am
It's great when a bunch of people from out of town come here to ride bikes,  spend money like water, and then leave.


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Post by: Conan71 on June 10, 2015, 03:09:02 pm
Christmas in June!

Unfortunately, I will miss the revelers on Crybaby Hill as I will be doing a volunteer gig on Sunday this year.  Might do my liver some good to skip it this year anyhow.


Title: Re:
Post by: Ed W on June 11, 2015, 08:37:08 am
I'll post photos on Google+, Conan, though given the weather reports and the fact that Sunday is our anniversary, I won't spend much time there. She-Who-etc would be thoroughly displeased if I didn't take her out. I only LOOK dumb.


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Post by: Tulsa Zephyr on June 11, 2015, 10:25:13 am
My better half and I have gone to the Criterium races in the Brady and Blue Dome districts the last few years but this will be the first that we'll do Cry Baby Hill.  I assume the earlier we get there, the better...and I understand there are no beer vendors at that criterium?  We plan on staying hydrated, mind the gap and take Monday off...but I'll be darned it I wear a diaper... 8)

We'd  appreciate any suggestions (or warnings)...


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Post by: Conan71 on June 11, 2015, 01:49:14 pm
My better half and I have gone to the Criterium races in the Brady and Blue Dome districts the last few years but this will be the first that we'll do Cry Baby Hill.  I assume the earlier we get there, the better...and I understand there are no beer vendors at that criterium?  We plan on staying hydrated, mind the gap and take Monday off...but I'll be darned it I wear a diaper... 8)

We'd  appreciate any suggestions (or warnings)...

Actually, I believe Prairie Artesian Ales will have beer up on CBH, just not certain where.  They brewed a Crybaby Hill Pilsner specifically for the event.  I’m assuming they will have some to pour Sunday.  I know we have it available in the VIP areas for TT.


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Post by: swake on June 11, 2015, 02:01:04 pm
Actually, I believe Prairie Artesian Ales will have beer up on CBH, just not certain where.  They brewed a Crybaby Hill Pilsner specifically for the event.  I’m assuming they will have some to pour Sunday.  I know we have it available in the VIP areas for TT.

A "craft" pilsner?  Why?

Is it a lot like making love in a canoe?


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Post by: Conan71 on June 11, 2015, 02:11:46 pm
A "craft" pilsner?  Why?

Is it a lot like making love in a canoe?

You can actually do some tasty stuff with pilsners


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Post by: Ed W on June 11, 2015, 02:49:58 pm
My better half and I have gone to the Criterium races in the Brady and Blue Dome districts the last few years but this will be the first that we'll do Cry Baby Hill.  I assume the earlier we get there, the better...and I understand there are no beer vendors at that criterium?  We plan on staying hydrated, mind the gap and take Monday off...but I'll be darned it I wear a diaper... 8)

We'd  appreciate any suggestions (or warnings)...

The race hits the hill about every 5 minutes. They're moving fast, so mind the gap, mind the gendarmes, and PAY ATTENTION! It's not a place for kids, strollers, dogs, or glass bottles.

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10407204_948026448552492_4957870932135401753_n.jpg?oh=4ee54a9a3f4bae31c68c707dd8658f61&oe=55F20BA7)


Title: Tulsa Tough
Post by: DolfanBob on June 12, 2015, 09:30:18 am
Downtown dwellers. Get ready for a big weekend. This TW article covers it all. Lot's to do.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/scene/downtown/brace-yourselves-downtown-will-be-packed-all-weekend-park-accordingly/article_7d5a092b-9ddd-55d1-afed-0a3a44d38aa4.html


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Post by: Breadburner on June 12, 2015, 11:13:17 am
Let the snobbery begin......!!!!


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Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on June 12, 2015, 01:52:48 pm
You can actually do some tasty stuff with pilsners

I agree! Pilsners come from Czech Republic. They have some of the best Pilsners on earth. They are amazing and cheap there. Glad both Marshall and Prairie have made their own versions. It's a great beer for meaty-dinners to go with German brats or roasted pork.

In the US, mainstream water beer has given Pilsner a bad name because, to answer swake's question, it's %$@#%$ close to water!


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Post by: swake on June 12, 2015, 01:55:23 pm
Let the snobbery begin......!!!!

Does that Bud Ice Light taste good or what?

(http://www.bov.ch/labels/USA/usa-anheuser-busch-bud-ice-light.jpg)


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Post by: sgrizzle on June 14, 2015, 12:06:14 pm
/BEER


Cry Baby Hill almost claimed one:
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/tulsa-tough-cyclist-hauled-hospital/nmcnR/


Title: Re:
Post by: Jammie on June 14, 2015, 02:20:54 pm
I'll post photos on Google+, Conan, though given the weather reports and the fact that Sunday is our anniversary, I won't spend much time there. She-Who-etc would be thoroughly displeased if I didn't take her out. I only LOOK dumb.

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, Ed and "she who"!


Title: Re:
Post by: Ed W on June 14, 2015, 07:45:15 pm
Yep. SHE-WHO -etc has put up with me for 29 years today.

My photos are om G+ at https://plus.google.com/app/basic/photos/114874700548780474647/album/6160365828551789089/6160365835999690370?cbp=11tpzdms59p4h&sview=20&cid=5&soc-app=115&soc-platform=1&spath=/app/basic/photos/114874700548780474647/album/6160365828551789089&sparm=gpsrc%3Dgplp0


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Post by: carltonplace on June 15, 2015, 07:32:36 am
The under the sea theme at CBH resulted in some very funny costumes. There was an orca and a 250lb ginger bearded mermaid.


Title: Re:
Post by: Conan71 on June 15, 2015, 10:51:59 am
Yep. SHE-WHO -etc has put up with me for 29 years today.

My photos are om G+ at https://plus.google.com/app/basic/photos/114874700548780474647/album/6160365828551789089/6160365835999690370?cbp=11tpzdms59p4h&sview=20&cid=5&soc-app=115&soc-platform=1&spath=/app/basic/photos/114874700548780474647/album/6160365828551789089&sparm=gpsrc%3Dgplp0

Great pics!  I saw quite a few of my friends in the photos and you managed to catch a couple of shots of the chalets I managed on Sunday at Crash Corner.  Bob Roll was a lot of fun to hang out with, he’s got a wicked sense of humor.


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Post by: Ed W on June 15, 2015, 02:57:33 pm
Back in the day, Roll was a tough pro racer. He's a welcome addition to the race commentary team.


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Post by: DolfanBob on June 16, 2015, 09:52:01 am
Great pictures Ed. The old guy without a shirt. That will be me. Never when it's hot shall I wear a shirt. I won't care how bad I look. Half naked old men unite!


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Post by: rdj on June 16, 2015, 12:46:10 pm
Great pics!  I saw quite a few of my friends in the photos and you managed to catch a couple of shots of the chalets I managed on Sunday at Crash Corner.  Bob Roll was a lot of fun to hang out with, he’s got a wicked sense of humor.

Man, it would have been nice to be under one of those chalets when the rain came Sunday afternoon.


Title: Re:
Post by: Ed W on June 16, 2015, 02:40:22 pm
Thanks for the kind words.  If anyone wants a high resolution original, please let me know.


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Post by: sauerkraut on June 26, 2015, 12:43:24 pm
Great pictures, looks like the cyclists had a good time. I heard some guy passed out or something on "Cry Baby Hill". I'm not a cyclist so I don't know the rules of racing in "Tulsa Tuff", but it's darn popular, I guess it attracts cyclists from all over the nation. My only sport is running, I have entered  5K's and 10K's . Lately they really jacked up the race day sign-up   fees to $45.00, (used to be $35.00)   The "Full Moon 5K" was $45.00 on race day or $30.00 if you signed up early and the race sold out.


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Post by: sauerkraut on June 26, 2015, 12:44:37 pm
Does anyone know where "Cry Baby Hill" is?  (Tulsa Tuff race)


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Post by: Townsend on June 26, 2015, 01:52:11 pm
Does anyone know where "Cry Baby Hill" is?  (Tulsa Tuff race)

Thousands of people do.


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Post by: swake on June 26, 2015, 01:56:40 pm
Thousands of people do.

Well, it's in Tulsa so he wouldn't be familiar. 


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Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on June 26, 2015, 04:20:14 pm
Does anyone know where "Cry Baby Hill" is?  (Tulsa Tuff race)


Yes.


Title: Re:Tulsa Tough 2016 Edition
Post by: Conan71 on June 09, 2016, 01:56:11 pm
Tulsa Tough is back this weekend in it’s three usual venues:

Friday Night- Blue Dome District, races start at 6:15pm and final race ends at approximately 9:50pm. 

There are plenty of great spots to spectate all around the course.  Don’t miss the rider expo in the future Santa Fe Square on the NE corner of 2nd & Elgin.  There are also still a limited amount of tickets left for the VIP tent on the north side of Elgin near the start/finish line where we will be pouring complimentary beer from Tulsa’s own Marshall’s Brewing and complimentary wines from Johndrow Vineyards of Napa Valley, Ca.  McNellies group will be providing food to our VIP guests.  Price is $50 for free beverages and food.  Johndrow wines has an Oklahoma connection as David Johndrow grew up in Enid and he has a brother who is a respected member of the Tulsa cycling community.

Tulsa Tough is upping its green game this year by employing the use of 128 gallon Water Monsters in the expo area and rider staging areas so riders and spectators can refill their own water bottles, creating less trash.  These will be co-located with Gatorade jugs.

Saturday- Brady District.  Gran Fondo starts at 7:30am and races start at 10am.  Last race ends at approximately 9:15pm.  There will be a rider expo and Gran Fondo rider hospitality area in the Guthrie Green.  Coop Ale Works has joined Tulsa Tough as the official beer of the Gran Fondos on Saturday and Sunday.  They will be providing complimentary beer for Fondo finishers and will be selling canned product to all others on Boston between Brady & Cameron on Saturday.

Hydration stations with the Water Monsters and Gatorade jugs will be located on the north and south ends of Guthrie Green, the Gran Fondo finish area on Boston north of Cameron, and the medical aid tent on the south side of Brady at Main St.

This is a great venue to enjoy the food of Brady District like Hey Mambo!, Laffa, The Tavern, Mexicali, & Caz’s or enjoy a cold beer and some revelry at the newly opened Prairie Brew Pub or Sound Pony.

Sunday- River Parks and world-famous Crybaby Hill.  Gran Fondo starts at 7:30am, first criterium race starts at 8am and races continue until 5:50 pm.  There will be a rider hospitality area near the Gran Fondo finish.  Again Coop Ale works will be providing riders with complimentary beer to celebrate their accomplishment and they will be selling beer at two stations in River Parks with all proceeds going to the River Parks Authority.

Hydration stations with Water Monsters and Gatorade in River Parks will be near the Gran Fondo finish area and near the start/finish line on the crit course on Riverside.  There will be two additional Water Monsters at 13th & Jackson on Crybaby Hill.  One will be on the south side near the sound stage, one will be on the north side of Jackson. 

St. Francis Kid’s Zone is open from 1:30pm to 3:30pm at the south end of the River Parks venue area.

Please bring a refillable water bottle and come spectate or participate in Tulsa’s premiere cycling festival. 

For more information: http://tulsatough.com/site/sections/1


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Post by: Ed W on June 09, 2016, 02:51:08 pm
I'm planning to go both Friday and Sunday. I want a t-shirt and last year they sold out of the...um...somewhat larger size I wear. Plus, there's a Lindy Hop swing dance at Guthrie Green and my daughter will be dancing. Who could resist?

Oh, and THIS year is our 30th wedding anniversary! Dunno how she put up with me this long.


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Post by: davideinstein on June 11, 2016, 10:12:01 am
Best weekend for Tulsa. Love it.


Title: "Tulsa Tough" - Huge Cycling Event!
Post by: PonderInc on June 13, 2016, 03:40:30 pm
I love this event, and it just keeps getting better!  By far the coolest event in town, and something we can really be proud of. (I'm also proud to have posted the first mention of Tulsa Tough on the TN forum.  Just sayin'... 11 years ago, I told ya so!)

We've hosted cyclists for the past several years, and it's fun to hear them talk about it.  Everyone who comes always wants to come back.  They tell their fellow cyclists it's the best race of the year.  They love the crazy fans and the crowds that come out for every race.  They love the after-parties on Sunday night.  And they love the real money that's up for grabs.  Especially among the women, it's known for great prize money and primes.  They also talk about the support from the community and how well they're treated in Tulsa.

As a bicycling advocate and commuter, I've seen other tangible benefits of TT.  Greater respect for cyclists; more support for bike infrastructure; kinder drivers; and an awareness that being a bike-friendly city has an economic payoff.  We have a long ways to go, but this event has transformed Tulsa and people's perceptions of the city.


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Post by: Conan71 on June 13, 2016, 06:15:59 pm
I served as food & beverage director for the event for the first time this year.  I was responsible for coordinating all the VIP and rider hospitality areas as well as all the event hydration needs other than the Fondo rest stops.  I do believe the water monsters were well-received and by Sunday very well-utilized.

It’s a lot of hard work but well worth helping put a great face on Tulsa for all of our visitors.  I got great help from the Ponderinc family as well as the cannon_fodders who spent their entire Sunday and most of Friday helping me out.  Thanks to CF I did not have to spend much time on CBH at all.  To be quite honest, that has gone from some light-hearted debauchery amongst cycling enthusiasts, but now it seems it’s a lot of people who aren’t even aware there is a bike race going on.  CF is much better versed in what all happened up there yesterday. 

Any feedback on we did with the hydration stations, rider feeds, VIP etc. , public or private is much appreciated.



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Post by: davideinstein on June 13, 2016, 07:57:18 pm
I served as food & beverage director for the event for the first time this year.  I was responsible for coordinating all the VIP and rider hospitality areas as well as all the event hydration needs other than the Fondo rest stops.  I do believe the water monsters were well-received and by Sunday very well-utilized.

It’s a lot of hard work but well worth helping put a great face on Tulsa for all of our visitors.  I got great help from the Ponderinc family as well as the cannon_fodders who spent their entire Sunday and most of Friday helping me out.  Thanks to CF I did not have to spend much time on CBH at all.  To be quite honest, that has gone from some light-hearted debauchery amongst cycling enthusiasts, but now it seems it’s a lot of people who aren’t even aware there is a bike race going on.  CF is much better versed in what all happened up there yesterday. 

Any feedback on we did with the hydration stations, rider feeds, VIP etc. , public or private is much appreciated.



Poplin tweeted that bikers were mad about the lack of medical support. It seemed fine on Sunday.


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Post by: Conan71 on June 13, 2016, 10:57:45 pm
Poplin tweeted that bikers were mad about the lack of medical support. It seemed fine on Sunday.

I heard some complaints about rest stop #2 on Saturday and rough roads on the new routes, but no complaints on medical.  Was this out on the Fondo course the complaints came from or in the race venues?

I know rider safety is a huge priority since the event is run by cyclists, if there is a lapse it needs to be identified and corrected before next year.  PM me with better details.


Title: Re: "Tulsa Tough" - Huge Cycling Event!
Post by: carltonplace on June 14, 2016, 07:42:39 am
I love this event, and it just keeps getting better!  By far the coolest event in town, and something we can really be proud of. (I'm also proud to have posted the first mention of Tulsa Tough on the TN forum.  Just sayin'... 11 years ago, I told ya so!)

We've hosted cyclists for the past several years, and it's fun to hear them talk about it.  Everyone who comes always wants to come back.  They tell their fellow cyclists it's the best race of the year.  They love the crazy fans and the crowds that come out for every race.  They love the after-parties on Sunday night.  And they love the real money that's up for grabs.  Especially among the women, it's known for great prize money and primes.  They also talk about the support from the community and how well they're treated in Tulsa.

As a bicycling advocate and commuter, I've seen other tangible benefits of TT.  Greater respect for cyclists; more support for bike infrastructure; kinder drivers; and an awareness that being a bike-friendly city has an economic payoff.  We have a long ways to go, but this event has transformed Tulsa and people's perceptions of the city.

I'm interested in hosting cyclists next year. Do I just reach out to Malcolm?


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Post by: carltonplace on June 14, 2016, 07:46:44 am
I served as food & beverage director for the event for the first time this year.  I was responsible for coordinating all the VIP and rider hospitality areas as well as all the event hydration needs other than the Fondo rest stops.  I do believe the water monsters were well-received and by Sunday very well-utilized.

It’s a lot of hard work but well worth helping put a great face on Tulsa for all of our visitors.  I got great help from the Ponderinc family as well as the cannon_fodders who spent their entire Sunday and most of Friday helping me out.  Thanks to CF I did not have to spend much time on CBH at all.  To be quite honest, that has gone from some light-hearted debauchery amongst cycling enthusiasts, but now it seems it’s a lot of people who aren’t even aware there is a bike race going on.  CF is much better versed in what all happened up there yesterday. 

Any feedback on we did with the hydration stations, rider feeds, VIP etc. , public or private is much appreciated.



The water station on Jackson was great, I heard it was empty by around 3PM so it was definitely a good idea.
I watched nearly every race and had a great time on CBH but you are right...lots of people are there just for the party. The new stage and the bands there were a big distraction from the races.


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Post by: hello on June 14, 2016, 09:57:03 am
"The new stage and the bands there were a big distraction from the races."

I agree. And the stage taking away so much space made it extremely crowded. The water stations were a great addition!


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Post by: cannon_fodder on June 14, 2016, 11:02:12 am
(prescript: I checked the water monsters near the end of the Women's P1 race (per the photos below last check was just before 4pm), one had ~2' of water left and one had ~1' of water left.  It wasn't worth trying to refill them in that chaos at that point. At the end of the day I released the valves on them around 7PM and the north side was basically dry, but the south-side still had some water to drain. Very well utilized, and if they were utilized even more we had a plan in place to refill them (though getting more ice up the hill was a lost cause by 2pm). )

I will attest that the crowd on Cry Baby Hill has shifted away from being mostly cycling fans. And that's OK, there are still plenty people to explain whats going on and get more people interested in cycling. It still amazes me that such a drunken mob scene can be so well behaved visa vis the race. There was only one crowd cause crash that I'm aware of (one is too many, but one can be a careless sober person in grandmas front yard).  BUT...

There is one primary rule: DO NOT INTERFERE WITH THE BIKE RACE.

In my humble opinion, there are now too many people there just to party and it is risking that one rule. Not people there to party AND watch an awesome cycling event. People smoking with their back turned standing right next to the track. People setting coolers on the track. People setting up tents and choking any space people have to move around. Side parties playing music trying to drown out the band playing on the stage. People constantly trying to high-five or otherwise touch the racers in the front pack or main pack. Core "do not do" type of things.

I went hoarse yelling at people to get off the track. There are orange lines. Guys in striped shirts with whistles. Marshall's with flags. A pace car. A motorcycle. And a hundred bikes coming at you. YOU STILL DON'T GET THE HINT? It was great at 11 Am, it was a madhouse at 1 PM, and by 3PM it was chaos. Much of the crowd is still helping to enforce the rules. The crowd policed itself well. But its getting nerve racking.

I love Cry Baby Hill. It is the capstone for Tulsa Tough and the racers LOVE IT. They're rock stars. The crowd is creative, fun loving, and or the most part, really into cheering the race. I in no way want to destroy the party I've been going to for many years.

But I'm starting to share fears that it has the potential to get out of control. I don't think barriers are the answer - they just create more choke points and concentrate the party (the party pretty much ended where the barriers started). Get rid of the tents right along the side of the road (not the ones 10' from the curb), they caused choke points along half the hill and concentrated the crowd as well as forcing people to try to move about ON the track in short sprints between races.  Spreading the mob out is the way to go - make it easier to move about and get off the track and people will do so. Keep the party going on down the backside of the hill so the mob isn't so concentrated. It wouldn't take away the festive atmosphere, it would expand it further along the track.

Mad props to the Sound Pony team, police, and private security who all acted professionally and responsibly in controlling such a mob scene. It would be easy for an overzealous and nervous officer to spark a riot or an incident, but every TPD officer was fantastic from start to finish. They didn't sweat the small stuff, kept the racers safe, and when it was time to shut down the party did so with tact and good humor (I heard one say to a guy still lingering after the first pass of officers, "Alright man, its 7 O'clock, after a long day you might want to go home and have a beer.").  

Of course, mad props to the other staff and volunteers who worked their butts off. Conan is a true barbarian. I couldn't believe he was standing by Sunday night. And kudos to all the racers!

A good time was had by all.


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Post by: cannon_fodder on June 14, 2016, 11:15:52 am
Here is a photo progression of the scene on CBH this year. I tried to take a picture at the start of each race from the same spot. That became impossible. But here's ~12 hours on CBH:

~6:30AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Y2DMLTwl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/u0I55EPl.jpg)

8:15, race 1, lap 1
(http://i.imgur.com/iN30ipUl.jpg)

Race 2
(http://i.imgur.com/k1t4Oc3l.jpg)

9:20
(http://i.imgur.com/ThNdCFJl.jpg)

10:45
(http://i.imgur.com/qSMDIUTl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/lDsj0qMl.jpg)

11:11
(http://i.imgur.com/9D3ecSal.jpg)

1:11
(http://i.imgur.com/oqIxSsFl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/h0DmM9Rl.jpg)

2:15 (water now causing auto focus issues)
(http://i.imgur.com/rQ3VxsNl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/d8QjUl8l.jpg)

3:45 (this was around the last water check time)
(http://i.imgur.com/ETlhVuzl.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/tW0CrLSl.jpg)

7 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/YpoWeWKl.jpg)






Title: Re: "Tulsa Tough" - Huge Cycling Event!
Post by: PonderInc on June 14, 2016, 02:14:56 pm
I'm interested in hosting cyclists next year. Do I just reach out to Malcolm?
The Tulsa Tough website has a place for volunteers, and a way to add your name to the list for host housing.  TT will "match" you with cyclists based on your location and number of spare beds, etc.  You give them a spare key and access to kitchen, laundry, bathroom, place to sleep, secure place for their bikes, and they do the rest.  In the old days, when none of the restaurants or food trucks were open after the last races on Fri/Sat, we used to do huge cookouts at midnight for our kids and their buddies.  In recent years, they have a lot more options downtown.  We still stock up on beer and snacks and cook a meal, but that's gravy.

The first couple years, we did the official method of signing up.  A few years ago, one of the women's teams just called "dibs" on us for the next year, so we don't even sign up any more, we just coordinate with the team manager.  We've gone from hosting a couple cyclists each year to a team of six.


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Post by: PonderInc on June 14, 2016, 02:28:10 pm
Cannon: Just FYI, in talking to our women's pro team, they all said the crowd gave them plenty of room to race on CBH.  (Their only complaint was that they didn't get sprayed with enough water!)

A few years ago, some of our friends who are pro men complained about not having room to pass on the hill, but it sounds like painting the stripes on the street and stepped up action by the Soundpony gang has helped.

That said, I've been a corner marshal down on Galveston the past couple years, so I haven't seen the mob lately.

Aside from CBH and the assortment of drunks who come just to party, I can attest that the crowds everywhere else are becoming more aware of the importance of rider safety.  As a corner marshal, I've noticed that if I'm yelling at someone to get off the course, other bystanders will start yelling at them, too.  This is actually incredibly helpful, and it communicates a shared culture of protecting the cyclists.  There are always some douchebags or clueless idiots around, but overall, I feel like people are getting better at watching for corner marshals, waiting for appropriate breaks, and crossing safely.

When I first started as a corner marshal about 6 years ago, it was total chaos and obliviousness.  We've gotten better by adding more corner marshals and barricades in critical locations, and the general public has learned how the system works.


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Post by: cannon_fodder on June 14, 2016, 04:02:14 pm
It all worked out just fine, and I'm damn glad the riders loved it! Maybe I was more nervous because I was more sober...


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Post by: Bamboo World on June 14, 2016, 04:58:45 pm

There are always some douchebags or clueless idiots around, but overall, I feel like people are getting better at watching for corner marshals, waiting for appropriate breaks, and crossing safely.

When I first started as a corner marshal about 6 years ago, it was total chaos and obliviousness.


From someone who lives in the neighborhood:  It seems as though the crowds have gotten better about not leaving trash and respecting private property, at least on my street.  I'm pleased to report no vandalism at my place this year, and I found only one cigarette butt on the public sidewalk in front of my house.


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Post by: davideinstein on June 15, 2016, 09:44:32 pm
I heard some complaints about rest stop #2 on Saturday and rough roads on the new routes, but no complaints on medical.  Was this out on the Fondo course the complaints came from or in the race venues?

I know rider safety is a huge priority since the event is run by cyclists, if there is a lapse it needs to be identified and corrected before next year.  PM me with better details.

He tweeted and then couldn't get specific. He's kind of a sports hack at times.


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Post by: davideinstein on June 15, 2016, 09:49:35 pm
The biggest issue I saw on Sunday were the people smoking cigarettes.


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Post by: PonderInc on June 17, 2016, 10:21:18 am
From someone who lives in the neighborhood:  It seems as though the crowds have gotten better about not leaving trash and respecting private property, at least on my street.  I'm pleased to report no vandalism at my place this year, and I found only one cigarette butt on the public sidewalk in front of my house.
It's funny because I kept getting water and setting my bottle down in the shade by the sidewalk.  Then, 20 minutes later, I'd look for my water bottle and it would be gone.  At first, I thought some thirsty person took it; then I realized that people were continuously cleaning up the sidewalks along the course.  I still have no idea if it was an official volunteer, or just a kind neighbor.  I lost about 4 bottles of water during the day!  But I can't complain, because there was absolutely no cleanup for me to do at the end of the day on Galveston.  Everything was spotless!


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Post by: rdj on June 17, 2016, 01:31:54 pm
The biggest issue I saw on Sunday were the people smoking cigarettes.

Couldn't you just move away from them?


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Post by: Conan71 on June 17, 2016, 02:15:24 pm
From someone who lives in the neighborhood:  It seems as though the crowds have gotten better about not leaving trash and respecting private property, at least on my street.  I'm pleased to report no vandalism at my place this year, and I found only one cigarette butt on the public sidewalk in front of my house.

13th & Jackson was still a pretty good mess when we finally got up there to get the water monsters around 7pm.  Malcolm is beyond anal about making sure Riverview is cleaner than it was before the race.


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Post by: dioscorides on June 17, 2016, 02:17:24 pm
Couldn't you just move away from them?

We came across smokers, as well.  Yes, we can stay away from them.  The cyclists, however, can't.  Cigarette smoke is probably very low on the list of things you want come across while riding up Cry Baby Hill.


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Post by: Bamboo World on June 17, 2016, 03:44:47 pm

Malcolm is beyond anal about making sure Riverview is cleaner than it was before the race.


Riverview is cleaner before the race.  It's messier on Sunday evening after the race.  That's a factual, general observation from someone who lives in the neighborhood.

Many of the visitors are disrespectful.