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Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: swake on January 21, 2006, 10:11:25 pm
Story from KOTV on the Botanical Gardens

http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1&id=97453

The Oklahoma Centennial Botanical Garden is planned for an adjacent piece of land north of Gilcrease Museum.

Directors unveiled the master plan for the garden Friday. It's being funded in part by state government and from contributions.

It's expected to open in late 2007.




Website
http://www.oklahomacentennialbotanicalgarden.com/index.html
(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/shake2005/Botanical.gif)


Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: MichaelC on December 19, 2006, 05:32:22 pm
From KTUL (http://"http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=116650")

quote:
It's a centennial project years in the making, a botanical garden set in the woodlands of North Tulsa. Tuesday, a group of ecological experts took the first steps to making it a reality.

The Cross Timbers Woodlands have been virtually untouched by man. So much so, ecologists say it's one of the most diverse and least disturbed forests in all of North America. It's a place where the prairie grasses meet Osage Hills.

Developers say it's the perfect location to build a tribute to Oklahoma's past and leave this generation's mark for the next. The plan is to create a botanical garden amongst 215 acres of the most beautiful terrain in the country.

Tuesday, a group of experts hiked through the area that will soon hold two walking trails into the gardens. It's the first step towards building Oklahoma's Centennial Botanical Garden.

Developers hope to have the paths ready for public use next September. It's a day they've looked forward to for nearly a decade. They say these woods will serve as a giant classroom, teaching our children and our children's children about the amazing outdoors.

"We're celebrating the heritage of the land and it's important to know where we came from and to be able to see the beauty, the natural beauty of what was there and it just works hand in hand with the botanical garden," said Pat Woodrum, Executive Director of the Centennial Botanical Garden.

The plan also includes a 17-acre lake with two islands of Oriental gardens.


Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: Rico on December 19, 2006, 05:46:47 pm
Possibly related to the sense that there will be further development in that general direction............  


http://www.terraverdeok.com/


Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: perspicuity85 on December 19, 2006, 05:54:13 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

Possibly related to the sense that there will be further development in that general direction............  


http://www.terraverdeok.com/





Where exactly is this development?


Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: Johnboy976 on December 19, 2006, 08:04:19 pm
Sounds good to me. At least they are serious about something up there.


Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: SXSW on December 19, 2006, 08:19:15 pm
quote:
Originally posted by perspicuity85

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

Possibly related to the sense that there will be further development in that general direction............  


http://www.terraverdeok.com/





Where exactly is this development?



From the Tisdale Pkwy. you go west along Apache St., take a right at 41st W. Ave., then a left at 31st St. N.  Follow that road until you get to Post Oak Lodge.  It's a winding road through some dense forest and hills, a really beautiful area.


Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: Rico on December 20, 2006, 07:12:01 am
quote:
Originally posted by SXSW

quote:
Originally posted by perspicuity85

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

Possibly related to the sense that there will be further development in that general direction............  


http://www.terraverdeok.com/





Where exactly is this development?



From the Tisdale Pkwy. you go west along Apache St., take a right at 41st W. Ave., then a left at 31st St. N.  Follow that road until you get to Post Oak Lodge.  It's a winding road through some dense forest and hills, a really beautiful area.




(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/rico2/map.jpg)


Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: mspivey on December 20, 2006, 09:18:04 am
It's right next to the site where "The American" will be. (or would have been)


Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: perspicuity85 on December 22, 2006, 06:35:59 am
quote:
Originally posted by mspivey

It's right next to the site where "The American" will be. (or would have been)



I e-mailed "The American" staff looking for a project update and this is what I received:

"We are happy to advise that The American Project is alive and well. We
have been very quiet for a number of months while we were completing
research and addressing some design issues that we believed were
necessary to ensure the success of the Project. Since last year, we have
completed two focus group studies, an attendance study, and an economic
impact study. The results of these studies all identified the Project as
not only a sound Project, but one with great potential for Tulsa and the
state. We also introduced The American to the art world at Art Expo in
New York City in March of this year. Art Expo is the largest art show in
the world. With regard to design, the artist and designer of the
Project, Shan Gray, completed the 3.5 ft engineering prototype in
February and has begun work on what will be called the Scan Master (a 6
ft engineering prototype of The American image) which will be the final
image for enlargement to the over 200 ft monument. With the completion
of the 3.5 ft image and the 6 ft Scan Master, certain design issues are
being addressed by the Structural engineers (i.e. fitting of the
elevator shaft and stairwell inside the statue, etc.). While all of this
work is very exciting and important to the Project, we realize it is not
very tangible to the public.

While we work on different aspects of the design, we continue to raise
funds. When the funding is completed, we will have about a six-month
start-up and then the public will be able to begin to see construction
on the monument itself. Our goal is to have the monument and support
facilities complete by early in the year 2010."

So it it's coming slowly but surely...


Title: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: unknown on December 22, 2006, 09:07:56 am
Not to take anything away from the Botanical Gardens, but is the American going to have a Casino at the base or at the top?[:D]


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: SXSW on September 07, 2009, 02:36:37 pm
For those that have been up that way recently, what progress has been made with the botanical garden?  I know some of the trails are complete and I believe they are finished building the 7 acre lake, does anyone know what else has been completed?  This is one of the coolest projects currently underway in Tulsa that many know nothing about because it's pretty secluded.  But that seclusion, which in real is only 6 miles from the heart of downtown, is what makes this garden and nature park interesting. 

I think this could be another great local hiking spot, maybe better than Turkey Mtn. or Chandler Park.  The hills in the area of the gardens are around 800-1000 ft. including the highest point Holmes Peak at 1,030 ft.  It doesn't sound very high but consider the river just 5 miles to the south is at ~650 ft.  The area is also very heavily wooded and includes some of the oldest forests in the region.


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: OpenYourEyesTulsa on September 07, 2009, 04:52:18 pm
This will be great for Tulsa and at around 250 acres this will be the biggest botanical garden that I know of.  It will draw people from all around.  I think you can hike on the trails now but the road up there is gravel until they get the drainage and pavement in.  They have a temporary visitors center open.  I have not been there yet but my parents (members of the Tulsa Garden Center) say it is beautiful there and there is a great view of downtown.

Check out their site for more updates:  http://www.ocbg.org/


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: sgrizzle on September 12, 2009, 12:11:13 pm
They have a few buildings too, including the temporary visitor center.
(http://www.ocbg.org/images/DedicationMay08/TempCent-1.jpg)
(http://www.ocbg.org/images/DedicationMay08/TempCent-2.jpg)


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: buckeye on September 14, 2009, 01:51:01 pm
I'm really looking forward to this opening and maturing, it's a great addition to Tulsa.


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: SXSW on October 11, 2010, 07:28:33 am
Has anyone been to the botanical gardens recently?  I am curious as to what progress has been made.  I guess I need to head out there and see for myself.  I was just in Austin and went hiking along the Barton Creek greenbelt.  It reminded me a lot of that area in the Osage Hills, and could be just as popular as Barton Creek is in Austin once the gardens are in place. 

There is a valley next to this park where Bigheart Creek drops from just under 1000 ft. to around 700 ft. north of Hwy 412 and then into the Arkansas River.  It would be cool to see hiking trails through that 'greenbelt' similar to what they have done in Austin along some of their creeks in the hills.


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: Townsend on October 11, 2010, 09:00:21 am
Has anyone been to the botanical gardens recently?  I am curious as to what progress has been made.  I guess I need to head out there and see for myself.  I was just in Austin and went hiking along the Barton Creek greenbelt.  It reminded me a lot of that area in the Osage Hills, and could be just as popular as Barton Creek is in Austin once the gardens are in place. 

There is a valley next to this park where Bigheart Creek drops from just under 1000 ft. to around 700 ft. north of Hwy 412 and then into the Arkansas River.  It would be cool to see hiking trails through that 'greenbelt' similar to what they have done in Austin along some of their creeks in the hills.

I saw on the news that a trail around the lake was completed and named for a psychologist who lived here in Tulsa.  It looks good so far but there's more planned.  I drove out there with the wife and friends a few weeks ago but failed to check hours.  We looked in from the outside of the gates and moved on.


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: cannon_fodder on January 11, 2016, 01:35:54 pm
Back in October the gardens opened third major installation (first being the ponds, second being the center) - the flower terraces. Klondike 5 played, but I still couldn't make it out there.

Over the summer my son and I went out to see what was going on out there - lots of planting on a 1/2 mile section around the pond. Another couple miles of trails in the back of the property that is just prairie. Some neat signs and lots of potential. But as of yet, if I get out there once a year I'm probably covered.

The reason I'm reviving this thread is because I had a thought over lunch. Reading a renewed interest in the Fin Tube site I wondered:
Why didn't we put the gardens there?

Unused land that needs to be re-purposed. Heavy City/Government involvement in whatever goes in there eventually anyway. Good view of downtown. Easy access for already touristy areas.

Why was that not considered?

I know there is a bunch of work going into it. I'm sure those involved are really trying hard with volunteer work, programming, and everything else.  But where it is located, the only people that will ever see it are people who intentionally set out to go see the botanical gardens.


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: Townsend on January 11, 2016, 01:42:23 pm
Back in October the gardens opened third major installation (first being the ponds, second being the center) - the flower terraces. Klondike 5 played, but I still couldn't make it out there.

Over the summer my son and I went out to see what was going on out there - lots of planting on a 1/2 mile section around the pond. Another couple miles of trails in the back of the property that is just prairie. Some neat signs and lots of potential. But as of yet, if I get out there once a year I'm probably covered.

The reason I'm reviving this thread is because I had a thought over lunch. Reading a renewed interest in the Fin Tube site I wondered:
Why didn't we put the gardens there?

Unused land that needs to be re-purposed. Heavy City/Government involvement in whatever goes in there eventually anyway. Good view of downtown. Easy access for already touristy areas.

Why was that not considered?

I know there is a bunch of work going into it. I'm sure those involved are really trying hard with volunteer work, programming, and everything else.  But where it is located, the only people that will ever see it are people who intentionally set out to go see the botanical gardens.

If I remember correctly, the gardens have a 100 year plan.  I think it's supposed to be an impressive draw as it is developed.

Also, the American.


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on January 12, 2016, 02:26:56 pm
I posted this over in 2025 thread back in December....since this is resurrected, will copy/paste here, too.  This garden is going to be a jewel !!



Even though not in Tulsa, I would rather see a few million go the the Oklahoma Botanical garden than anything go to the dams!  That will have much greater return than the dams will - even without the support!  Give it a boost!!

If nothing else, give them money for road improvements to the facility.  I hate that it ended up so far out of town, 'cause this could be like the Ft. Worth botanical garden - very big draw for people, even in fall/winter.  Took a train trip there a couple weeks ago, and the place was packed!  And beautiful.

There is a massively underutilized, large tract of land from 36th St N to 46th St N,  Peoria to Lewis that would have been an excellent place for a large botanical garden/park complex.   And there is a creek corridor from Lewis that extends over under 75 to Yahola lake - could have connections to Mohawk area.  This could have been a very nice, very large facility that would make excellent use of an area that has nice terrain features and could be cleaned up nicely.  Just a thought....

Would have to get rid of the perpetual garage (garbage) sale on Lewis....

Plus, there is another wasted area just south of 36th St N that could be included....


Still a shame Barry had to go so far out to make this happen....


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on May 13, 2016, 01:52:39 pm
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Children's Discovery Garden on Sunday
Children’s garden set to unveil on Sunday


Spitting turtles, whirling butterflies and a spring giant are just a few of the attractions that will bring the Children’s Discovery Garden to life during its grand opening Sunday at the Tulsa Botanic Garden.
The new addition is the second of several projects included in the Tulsa Botanic Garden’s Master Plan announced in 2012. The A.R. and Marylouise Tandy Floral Terraces, which opened in October, were the first completed project.
“The Children’s Discovery Garden stands at the same level of outstanding quality and breadth as the terraces and the same level of quality we hope to continue as we grow,” said Todd Lasseigne, botanic garden president and CEO.
On Tuesday, the final round of annuals was planted and fresh mulch was spread around the enclosed 2-acre garden before a private donor party where about 200 people visited the children’s garden before it opens to the public.
The garden’s public grand opening is 3 to 7 p.m. Sunday, and admission will be free as part of the celebration.
Lasseigne expects to see many area families with children enjoy the garden with the school year coming to an end in the next few weeks. Though the garden features more than 350 types of plants and 7,500 total, many features in the space allow for children and parents to engage in teachable moments.
“There are so many stories to tell here. Children and parents can have fun looking at nature,” he said standing on the garden’s tree fort. “The whirligigs, for example, have bumblebees, butterflies and dragonflies. The bumblebees and butterflies are important because they’re pollinators, and the dragonflies are important for our aquatic system because they eat mosquitoes.”
A sensory garden near the entrance of the Children’s Discovery Garden is a space where children can feel lamb’s ear leaves, smell lavender, see how different kinds of plants grow and the way some can make noise. Just up a path to the north end of the garden is a 15-foot-tall spring giant that serves as the starting point for the Anne & Henry Zarrow Foundation Stream Valley. Children can play inside the spring giant’s head where stalactites hang, and they can see through the giant’s mouth.
Behind the spring giant, metal drums and xylophones give children a chance to make music, while a slate wall offers an opportunity to make art with water instead of paint on a canvas. Lasseigne believes kids will really enjoy looking at bog bowls filled with Venus flytraps, sundews and pitcher plants. And the Eslicker/Bingham Family Meadow is home to the whirligigs, tree fort and amphitheater.
The tree fort surrounds a grove of post oaks on the south side of the children’s garden, sitting 6 feet above the ground where visitors can enjoy a beautiful vantage point of the garden and performances hosted at the children’s amphitheater below. Puppet shows and story time are two programs the garden will host in those spaces, and more will be added.
“You learn to grow into gardens like this,” Lasseigne said. “A year from now it might be completely different. So right now, we’re building programs around school groups, families and casual visitors.”
Lori Hutson, communications and programs director for the botanic garden, plans to create more activities for families and children throughout the year including self-guided activities and events.
Sunday’s grand opening will offer programs for Botanic Garden members only from 10 a.m. to 3 p.m. with garden tours, music, family crafts and yoga. At 3 p.m., the garden will host a ribbon-cutting ceremony, and family crafts will be available until 7 p.m. Food trucks will be set up from 1 to 6 p.m.
“Many people think of gardens as something for adults, but this is space we think everyone will enjoy,” she said.
Garden art from Lisa Regan, otherwise known as the Garden Deva, is spread around the garden in the form of signs, sculptures and entrances, and two hand-carved wood thrones by Clayton Coss are located on the deck of the tree fort.
“I’m not a kid anymore, but I think they’re going to like it,” Lasseigne said.
After the Children’s Discovery Garden opens, Tulsa Botanic Garden will shift gears to the next stage of the Master Plan, which includes the design of a multipurpose building, the Lotus Pool and All-Seasons Garden.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/tulsa-botanic-garden-to-unveil-children-s-discovery-garden-on/article_e1c44d45-153f-500b-9ece-5f8306230aed.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/tulsa-botanic-garden-to-unveil-children-s-discovery-garden-on/article_e1c44d45-153f-500b-9ece-5f8306230aed.html)


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: SXSW on September 05, 2016, 03:42:19 pm
I went out there this weekend to see the progress.  Wow it has really come a long way!  Still lots to do and the plants need to mature but it will be incredible in about 5 years.  Nice place to go for a hike too. 


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 06, 2016, 12:01:11 pm
I went out there this weekend to see the progress.  Wow it has really come a long way!  Still lots to do and the plants need to mature but it will be incredible in about 5 years.  Nice place to go for a hike too. 


Very nice place!!

Wish it was just a little bit closer....


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: sauerkraut on September 08, 2016, 02:56:13 pm
I never knew Tulsa had Botanical Gardens, it sounds like a great place.  Fort Worth, Texas  has some large Botanical Gardens, it's located off of University Drive across from Trinity Park, it's worth checking out, it's just north of where I-30 crosses University Drive.


Title: Re: Info on Botanical Gardens
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 08, 2016, 05:45:39 pm
I never knew Tulsa had Botanical Gardens, it sounds like a great place.  Fort Worth, Texas  has some large Botanical Gardens, it's located off of University Drive across from Trinity Park, it's worth checking out, it's just north of where I-30 crosses University Drive.


This is why we keep telling you to get OFF the Faux News channels and LEARN something about your surroundings!  There is a REAL world out there that you are missing out on entirely!!   Try 10 years of NO Fox News, and watch PBS and listen to NPR instead!!  That includes NO Drudge Report!!

You will be much better for the experience!!