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Title: Surveillance installed in south Tulsa by Tulsa police raises concerns
Post by: patric on March 24, 2023, 08:08:33 pm
TULSA, Okla. Tulsa police installed live-streaming cameras worth about $50,000 around 61st Street and Peoria Avenue.

Captain Jacob Johnston told NewsChannel 8 the cost covered the setup for 22 cameras around the Hope Valley area.
The new cameras, which will be accessible through the real-time information center, are part of TPD's growing technology tools.
"We're focused on reducing crime, and if that's the lifestyle that you've chosen, we're going to be able to capture the choices you're making and be able to bring you to justice much sooner with this with this technology," he said.

Tamara Lebak lives in the neighborhood and is against the surveillance initiative.
They said their neighbors are under-resourced and over-policed, and believes that cameras aren't the answer.
"I think what would be better is actually helping to better understand what the needs of the community actually are instead of assuming that policing is actually going to solve the problem," said Lebak.

Their city councilor, Jayme Fowler, supports the cameras but agrees with Lebak.
"Just simply throwing more police or more surveillance into the community, that does not win the day," Fowler said.


https://ktul.com/news/local/surveillance-installed-in-south-tulsa-by-tulsa-police-raises-concerns


Title: Re: Surveillance installed in south Tulsa by Tulsa police raises concerns
Post by: Red Arrow on March 24, 2023, 08:15:00 pm
They said their neighbors are under-resourced and over-policed, and believes that cameras aren't the answer.
"I think what would be better is actually helping to better understand what the needs of the community actually are instead of assuming that policing is actually going to solve the problem," said Lebak.
"Just simply throwing more police or more surveillance into the community, that does not win the day," Fowler said.

I don't like Big Brother any more than anyone else.

What are the "needs of the community" that will actually solve the problem?





Title: Re: Surveillance installed in south Tulsa by Tulsa police raises concerns
Post by: patric on March 26, 2023, 09:38:29 am

I don't like Big Brother any more than anyone else.

What are the "needs of the community" that will actually solve the problem?



TV crime reporting revolves around sound bites, most of which are curated to amplify self-serving official handouts or grievances from random people on the street that really contribute nothing towards an understanding of the situation. If the neighborhood leaders did elaborate, it might not have fit the allotted 6-8 seconds typical of that media. My guess would be neighbors wanted more oversight and accountability rather than China-style mass surveillance... or at least to have been asked.

The irony of the live streaming cameras is that there was such a camera that presented the most damning evidence against the officers involved in a fatal assault last January.

It was one of the hundreds of SkyCop cameras, as they are known, that the Memphis Police Department has installed around the city. It was watching from above, recording as Mr. Nichols was beaten and then as officers and medics delayed providing aid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/01/us/skycop-camera-tyre-nichols-memphis.html