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Title: AERO Bus Rapid Transit
Post by: Dspike on November 21, 2019, 11:40:04 am
As most here know, Tulsa Transit launched the long-awaited Bus Rapid Transit line on Peoria this past weekend. Riders can try it out for free for the first month. More details, including times and a route/stop map are here:

https://aerobrt.tulsatransit.org/

So has anyone tried it out? What are your reviews? Do folks think this more frequent service will induce demand by bringing in riders who have options and not just those without personal vehicles?


Title: Re: AERO Bus Rapid Transit
Post by: TheArtist on November 22, 2019, 08:00:38 am
Excited to see this finally up and running.  Have not tried it yet.  One negative I have heard is complaints that the new bus stops do not offer the shelter that the older ones did.

 As I have traveled more I have come to realize that the weather in Oklahoma really is unusually brutal, especially pertaining to the wind and the dramatic temperature changes that can come with it. Though us natives know it, and talk about it, it is when you come into contact with what others think of as being "horribly bad weather" and realize that would be "no big deal" here in Oklahoma that you realize that perhaps in many places in the world their ability to be so much more bike/pedestrian/transit friendly is aided by their climate.  Doesn't mean we can't be, but it does mean we need to be extra aware of our unique circumstances.  A bus stop design that would be perfectly fine on say the west coast may be woefully inadequate for Tulsa.

 


Title: Re: AERO Bus Rapid Transit
Post by: shavethewhales on December 10, 2019, 01:17:11 pm
Anyone tried it out yet? I haven't gotten a chance myself yet. I am looking forward to using it more this summer to bounce between DT and Brookside. Would be really nice if there was something going east-west that intersected with it. I don't trust the existing buses at all.


Title: Re: AERO Bus Rapid Transit
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 11, 2019, 05:35:52 pm
Excited to see this finally up and running.  Have not tried it yet.  One negative I have heard is complaints that the new bus stops do not offer the shelter that the older ones did.

 As I have traveled more I have come to realize that the weather in Oklahoma really is unusually brutal, especially pertaining to the wind and the dramatic temperature changes that can come with it. Though us natives know it, and talk about it, it is when you come into contact with what others think of as being "horribly bad weather" and realize that would be "no big deal" here in Oklahoma that you realize that perhaps in many places in the world their ability to be so much more bike/pedestrian/transit friendly is aided by their climate.  Doesn't mean we can't be, but it does mean we need to be extra aware of our unique circumstances.  A bus stop design that would be perfectly fine on say the west coast may be woefully inadequate for Tulsa.

 


Milwaukee and Chicago have winds that are very similar between the two cities.  And Chicago has the nickname Windy City.   Neither of which comes even close to Oklahoma City and it's area for winds - neither strength nor duration!   I guess Chicago has to try to be famous for something other than violence...


And a few weeks ago I was checking weather for some travel we did at Thanksgiving to see what to expect.  Wind advisories.  For 20 - 25 mph winds.  And gusts up to 30 mph!   I was left speechless.  A light breeze like that was creating wind advisories??   Geez...







Title: Re: AERO Bus Rapid Transit
Post by: Conan71 on December 11, 2019, 05:52:19 pm

Milwaukee and Chicago have winds that are very similar between the two cities.  And Chicago has the nickname Windy City.   Neither of which comes even close to Oklahoma City and it's area for winds - neither strength nor duration!   I guess Chicago has to try to be famous for something other than violence...


And a few weeks ago I was checking weather for some travel we did at Thanksgiving to see what to expect.  Wind advisories.  For 20 - 25 mph winds.  And gusts up to 30 mph!   I was left speechless.  A light breeze like that was creating wind advisories??   Geez...


Sh!t, 20-25 out here in the Mountain Southwest is a relatively calm day.


Title: Re: AERO Bus Rapid Transit
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 15, 2019, 10:15:54 pm
Sh!t, 20-25 out here in the Mountain Southwest is a relatively calm day.


Exactly! 



Title: Re: AERO Bus Rapid Transit
Post by: Dspike on December 16, 2019, 10:08:04 am
The East-West route is in planning stages. It will likely be on 11th or 21st (or parts of both) from downtown to around Eastland Mall. But none of that is set.

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"We want to learn from this experience how we might influence a second route," said Rieck. "We might want to put one on Route 66 next."

https://ktul.com/news/local/tulsas-bus-rapid-transit-begins-new-routes-on-peoria


Title: Re: AERO Bus Rapid Transit
Post by: Urban Enthusiast on December 23, 2019, 06:07:14 pm
Here are some pictures of the new Aero bus stops.  They look great, but I think form took greater precedence than function.  They'll keep the rain from hitting you from above, but if the wind is blowing they don't offer much protection.  

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And here's the bus itself.  I still haven't ridden it, so can't say anything about the interior, but I really like the sleek exterior.  
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