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Title: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: Weatherdemon on July 18, 2019, 07:14:07 am
Someone is turning a lot of dirt in that lot this week.
I was thinking OK Pop but, I believe that is a block east.

If not OK Pop, does anyone know what's going there?


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: AdamsHall on July 18, 2019, 07:44:47 am
Someone is turning a lot of dirt in that lot this week.
I was thinking OK Pop but, I believe that is a block east.

If not OK Pop, does anyone know what's going there?

OKPop is supposed to go on the lot across from the Cain's.  I am thinking the lot you are referring to may be the rumored GKFF project that to my knowledge remains unannounced.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: MostSeriousness on July 18, 2019, 07:45:38 am
That seems to be the GKFF project (Western Supply), that definitely is in the rumor mill for a dozen possibilities. Guess the timing/announcement may be forthcoming?


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: Dspike on July 18, 2019, 08:58:35 am
Not sure it is too secret. Isn't it this plot:

"The George Kaiser Family Foundation is planning a mixed-use residential and commercial development to anchor the northwest corner of the Brady Arts District, officials said Thursday.

Ken Levit, GKFF executive director, said plans are still coming together, but the hope is to have residential and office uses for the property in the 400 block of North Boulder Avenue, currently home to the Western Supply warehouses.

“GKFF owns the land and is planning a development consistent with our goals of creating a vibrant district that is attractive for young, creative people to live and work in Tulsa,” Levit said. “We are studying various options and hope to accommodate both residential and office uses on the property and do so in a way that can help define the northern edge of the (Brady) Arts District.”"

https://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/kaiser-group-focusing-on-residential-and-business-development-to-anchor/article_672c4d67-c3c4-530b-9957-792a78d4a1e3.html


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: buffalodan on July 18, 2019, 09:55:11 am
https://tulsaok.tylertech.com/EnerGov4934/SelfService#/permit/8aa719a6-aeea-4ae9-b3ec-86fe67607d0d

https://tulsaok.tylertech.com/a79aeb04-7869-485f-bd15-93ce2b617ddc

Not sure if those links work, but Hickok-Cole architects are the ones doing it. They have a few interesting projects in their portfolio, but also a ton of very standard ones. The plans just show a small parking lot for now, but considering they have a $28mil TIF and are putting drives to a "future building" I wouldn't be surprised if structured parking is being installed. One of the meeting minutes talked about a 10 story building and the water/sewer requirements look like they are expecting this to be a pretty populated place in the near future.





Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: Weatherdemon on July 18, 2019, 11:11:02 am
It looks like they're digging out the SW corner of the lot which doesn't match up with the GKFF plans on the NE corner (unless I read that wrong.)


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: shavethewhales on July 18, 2019, 12:05:14 pm
The project description in the SW3P says that this will be a 6-8 story residential/office with parking garage. It looks like the project is divided into phases, and the first phase is demolition plus construction of utilities and a little surface parking lot at the corner. They are doing a complete streetscape/sidewalk around the perimeter.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: Jacobei on August 08, 2019, 06:52:14 pm
They are doing some serious earth work on this.  I really have to wonder about why they are keeping it so quiet.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: LandArchPoke on August 08, 2019, 07:50:04 pm
They are doing some serious earth work on this.  I really have to wonder about why they are keeping it so quiet.

Here's a little bit of info...

https://www.cityoftulsa.org/media/5543/projectplan-11-21-2017.pdf

INCREMENT DISTRICT F: Western Supply TIF District

An opportunity for an urban corporate campus in addition to a residential community with integrated services and cultural opportunities will activate this former manufacturing site. This district anchors the northern edge of the Arts District and can connect to development planned on the north side of in Inner Dispersal Loop (a hard edge for downtown that needs to be breached for successful connections) including the OSU-Tulsa campus and historic Brady Heights neighborhood.

They also applied for a workforce housing financing grant but was denied in late 2018

https://www.ok.gov/ohfa/documents/Exhibit%20E-September2018.pdf

So my guess is GKFF has either landed a tenant who is relocating or expanding in Tulsa for the office project portion or I frankly wouldn't be surprised if they weren't building it for themselves and move the GKFF and Tulsa Community Foundation downtown at some point. Or maybe even Kaiser-Francis Oil, all of which are officed in some aging office buildings around 71st and Yale now. I would imagine there's a reason they're being tight lipped about it. It will at least be ~270 units of multifamily and an office building with some retail.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: SXSW on August 08, 2019, 08:10:53 pm
Wow this sounds like an impressive project, looking forward to seeing renderings at some point.

Lots of additional new stuff coming to the Arts District and Greenwood:
- 11 story WPX HQ
- 6 story The View apartments
- 6 story Vast Bank HQ (with rooftop In The Raw)
- 8 story Davenport Lofts
- 5 story GreenArch II (proposed)
- Bob Dylan Archive

Now we just need OSU to expand its campus and add more graduate and research programs...


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: ComeOnBenjals on August 15, 2019, 12:53:05 pm
Wow this sounds like an impressive project, looking forward to seeing renderings at some point.

Lots of additional new stuff coming to the Arts District and Greenwood:
- 11 story WPX HQ
- 6 story The View apartments
- 6 story Vast Bank HQ (with rooftop In The Raw)
- 8 story Davenport Lofts
- 5 story GreenArch II (proposed)
- Bob Dylan Archive

Now we just need OSU to expand its campus and add more graduate and research programs...

Going to be cool to watch this unfold over the next few years! Seems to be some current lots left in the Arts district that have potential for updates/new projects as well!


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: SXSW on June 10, 2020, 10:05:37 am
Does anyone know more about this project?  I've heard the rumors about GKFF and TCF moving into a new building on this site.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: Tulsan on June 10, 2020, 10:38:12 am
Does anyone know more about this project?  I've heard the rumors about GKFF and TCF moving into a new building on this site.

The plan is online on the permitting site under BLDC-011932-2018 (yes it’s been available for 21 months). It’s a mixed use development with 3 levels of underground parking, retail storefronts on first floor along Boulder, office space on first 3-4 levels, and a 13 story residential tower in the center of the block. My understanding is that it’s intended as affordable, workforce housing. Architecture by Lilly Architects.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: SXSW on June 10, 2020, 12:30:09 pm
The plan is online on the permitting site under BLDC-011932-2018 (yes it’s been available for 21 months). It’s a mixed use development with 3 levels of underground parking, retail storefronts on first floor along Boulder, office space on first 3-4 levels, and a 13 story residential tower in the center of the block. My understanding is that it’s intended as affordable, workforce housing. Architecture by Lilly Architects.

WOW!  How is this not more publicized?  That is a major project.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: Tulsan on June 10, 2020, 01:56:11 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/cZjqFLu.jpg)


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: SXSW on June 10, 2020, 02:30:50 pm
Looks amazing will totally change the feel of that stretch of Boulder.  Would love to see something similar on the corners at Main & Cameron to tie into this. 


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: Dspike on June 10, 2020, 02:48:44 pm
If you are talking north of Cameron between Boulder and Main, Tulsa Parking Authority has an RFP out for that lot. Saw this shared on FB with renderings of two bids:

https://www.facebook.com/meaganfarleyaroundtulsa/posts/718584718895507


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on June 10, 2020, 03:16:25 pm
If you are talking north of Cameron between Boulder and Main, Tulsa Parking Authority has an RFP out for that lot. Saw this shared on FB with renderings of two bids:

https://www.facebook.com/meaganfarleyaroundtulsa/posts/718584718895507


Either of those would be great, but that second one looks phenomenal. Something about the mix of Mid-Century Modern styles, lighting and the angle created from the parking garage ramp make it look so good. I would be thrilled to see something like that downtown, especially in the Arts District.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: ComeOnBenjals on June 10, 2020, 03:27:06 pm
The plan is online on the permitting site under BLDC-011932-2018 (yes it’s been available for 21 months). It’s a mixed use development with 3 levels of underground parking, retail storefronts on first floor along Boulder, office space on first 3-4 levels, and a 13 story residential tower in the center of the block. My understanding is that it’s intended as affordable, workforce housing. Architecture by Lilly Architects.

Wow! That's huge news... 13 stories is impressive! Could you send the link to see the designs?

Both projects will drastically change that part of the area.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: Tulsan on June 10, 2020, 03:39:24 pm
Wow! That's huge news... 13 stories is impressive! Could you send the link to see the designs?

https://tulsaok.tylertech.com/EnerGov4934/SelfService#/permit/cd1aca33-e762-41fb-b949-74ddec2a6373

Look under “Supporting Docs” to find the full plans. It includes full floor plans for all 13 floors.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on June 11, 2020, 11:44:34 am
Wow! That's huge news... 13 stories is impressive! Could you send the link to see the designs?

Both projects will drastically change that part of the area.

I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I looked through as much as I could stand and didn't see anything showing specific interior views that would be interesting to look at besides just layout schematics of each floor. The main photo already posted on here was the best summary to post on this board in the 163 page document.

It looks like a pretty huge development though. ~$50-$80 million is what I had heard.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: shavethewhales on June 11, 2020, 12:11:49 pm
Wow, this is really the year of mid-rises for Tulsa. I wonder if this will make it to reality with all that is going on at the moment.

The overpass immediately north of this project is always full of homeless, and John 3:16 is just at the NW corner, so it will definitely be a harsh juxtaposition.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: Jacobei on October 22, 2020, 04:28:40 pm
I just finished up a zoom call with the GKFF and the architectural firm working on this.  It's slated to start work next year and will likely finish 2022.

Estimated 200-300 units.

The space is gong to be for people who are part of TFA, TAF, Holberton or one of the other GKFF partners.

It looks to be a great project!


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: SXSW on October 22, 2020, 04:48:05 pm
That’s great to hear, I wondered what was happening with that project. 

It’s still crazy to go north of 244 and there are just empty lots hopefully all the new development in the Arts District will spillover to that area eventually.  Perfect spot for a mix of housing types literally right next to downtown


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: AdamsHall on October 24, 2020, 09:03:04 am
I just finished up a zoom call with the GKFF and the architectural firm working on this.  It's slated to start work next year and will likely finish 2022.

Estimated 200-300 units.

The space is gong to be for people who are part of TFA, TAF, Holberton or one of the other GKFF partners.

It looks to be a great project!

Thanks for the update.  Over the past week, some limited dirt work has been underway on the lot.


Title: Re: N Cheyenne and W East
Post by: LandArchPoke on October 24, 2020, 01:54:46 pm
I just finished up a zoom call with the GKFF and the architectural firm working on this.  It's slated to start work next year and will likely finish 2022.

Estimated 200-300 units.

The space is gong to be for people who are part of TFA, TAF, Holberton or one of the other GKFF partners.

It looks to be a great project!

Who is the architect group is on the project? Did they show any renderings? Curious if they still have the residential units planned to be in a high-rise form versus the mid-rise we usually see. Also, is it 100% workforce housing or did they say if any of the project is going to be more luxury/market rate units. I know they got funding for workforce housing but wasn't sure how much of the residential units would be set aside for that.