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Title: Oklahoma Moves into No. 2 Spot for Wind Power Capacity in the Nation
Post by: Rattle Trap on January 19, 2019, 05:42:38 pm
https://newsok.com/article/5581518/oklahoma-moves-into-no.-2-spot-for-wind-power-capacity-in-the-nation-association-says

Wasn't sure where to post this but I was curious what everyone's opinion on wind power for the state is. It certainly is good from a business attraction perspective. Is the wind catcher project still happening?

Edit: didn't realize this article is nearly a year old. Still a relevant topic though


Title: Re: Oklahoma Moves into No. 2 Spot for Wind Power Capacity in the Nation
Post by: Red Arrow on January 19, 2019, 09:15:37 pm
https://newsok.com/article/5581518/oklahoma-moves-into-no.-2-spot-for-wind-power-capacity-in-the-nation-association-says

Wasn't sure where to post this but I was curious what everyone's opinion on wind power for the state is. It certainly is good from a business attraction perspective. Is the wind catcher project still happening?

Edit: didn't realize this article is nearly a year old. Still a relevant topic though

Migratory bird killers.  Nothing is free from adverse effects.  They are UGLY when flying about the area but.... as long as they aren't in my back yard they are probably better than burning coal.


Title: Re: Oklahoma Moves into No. 2 Spot for Wind Power Capacity in the Nation
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on January 19, 2019, 10:22:33 pm
They aren't as efficient as you think. It takes 60 windmills to power the Google server farm at MAIP in Pryor. A single turbine generates 2.5 MW. Google Purchased 3 Gigawatts which is 1200 turbines.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/google-will-be-powered-only-wind-and-solar-citing-massive-savings-728745%3famp=1 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/google-will-be-powered-only-wind-and-solar-citing-massive-savings-728745%3famp=1)


Title: Re: Oklahoma Moves into No. 2 Spot for Wind Power Capacity in the Nation
Post by: Conan71 on January 20, 2019, 11:37:33 am
Does anyone know what sort of money the leases pay farmers and ranchers who agree to host wind farms?  I'm more than certain they don't just allow windmills on their property.

I'm really surprised we don't have wind farms here in NE NM, we have plenty of that resource to drive them.  Solar farms seem to be in favor in this area.  I'm planning to build in the neighborhood of a 2000-2400 square foot shop on our property and very seriously considering wind and solar power exclusively for that structure.  If it works well enough, I may consider it eventually to power our entire inn.  My big goal is to see if I can get us off natural gas for our heating needs including our pool.  At one point, a previous owner did have a solar heater for the indoor pool, no idea why it was taken out and replaced with a gas heater unless freezing was an issue.  I think if we ran glycol through the panels (which does cut efficiency a little) and used a small heat exchanger it would be a reliable system.

If we could get off commercial gas and electric, our savings would be around $500/month.  If I had to guess, it would be a four or five year payback.


Title: Re: Oklahoma Moves into No. 2 Spot for Wind Power Capacity in the Nation
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on January 20, 2019, 11:57:53 am
Does anyone know what sort of money the leases pay farmers and ranchers who agree to host wind farms?  I'm more than certain they don't just allow windmills on their property.

I'm really surprised we don't have wind farms here in NE NM, we have plenty of that resource to drive them.  Solar farms seem to be in favor in this area.  I'm planning to build in the neighborhood of a 2000-2400 square foot shop on our property and very seriously considering wind and solar power exclusively for that structure.  If it works well enough, I may consider it eventually to power our entire inn.  My big goal is to see if I can get us off natural gas for our heating needs including our pool.  At one point, a previous owner did have a solar heater for the indoor pool, no idea why it was taken out and replaced with a gas heater unless freezing was an issue.  I think if we ran glycol through the panels (which does cut efficiency a little) and used a small heat exchanger it would be a reliable system.

If we could get off commercial gas and electric, our savings would be around $500/month.  If I had to guess, it would be a four or five year payback.

You should see the Archimedes Death Ray solar farm.

https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html)


(https://www.latimes.com/resizer/d1QXoTep4sHu7DrI4AnnISDxCDY=/fit-in/800x600/filters:fill(black)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/SZ4KVCDMAVDN7NS2LTUWR5WCWM.jpg)


Title: Re: Oklahoma Moves into No. 2 Spot for Wind Power Capacity in the Nation
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on January 20, 2019, 03:56:40 pm
Migratory bird killers.  Nothing is free from adverse effects.  They are UGLY when flying about the area but.... as long as they aren't in my back yard they are probably better than burning coal.


Maybe it's just a plot to get rid of all the extra snow geese.  Daily limits are 50 a day through 2 seasons, with a special season after the end of the regular season with no daily limit.  Not enough hunters out there any more, so just use windmills!!


Title: Re: Oklahoma Moves into No. 2 Spot for Wind Power Capacity in the Nation
Post by: TheArtist on January 21, 2019, 12:22:35 am
The neighborhood cats kill a lot of birds as well.  Unfortunately they don't seem to generate much electricity.


Title: Re: Oklahoma Moves into No. 2 Spot for Wind Power Capacity in the Nation
Post by: rebound on January 21, 2019, 11:25:00 am
You should see the Archimedes Death Ray solar farm.

https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html (https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-solar-bird-deaths-20160831-snap-story.html)

(https://www.latimes.com/resizer/d1QXoTep4sHu7DrI4AnnISDxCDY=/fit-in/800x600/filters:fill(black)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/SZ4KVCDMAVDN7NS2LTUWR5WCWM.jpg)

I drove by that thing not long ago.  It is an amazing facility.   The tower is so bright, it's like it's not even there.   The top just kind of fades into this massive glowing spot that blends in with the sky and kind of looks like a second sun.  Pretty cool.