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Title: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: joiei on February 06, 2018, 09:15:56 am
http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/saltgrass-steak-house-to-open-tulsa-location/article_d0c44290-967b-5426-8db7-d3cc21c92e5e.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/saltgrass-steak-house-to-open-tulsa-location/article_d0c44290-967b-5426-8db7-d3cc21c92e5e.html) 
I drove past this yesterday and wondered what was happening.  It is behind the Kum & Go in front of the Comfort Inn.  I have never eaten at a Saltgrass but am familiar with the Landry company.  I would think it will do will with all the hotels right there. 


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 06, 2018, 09:49:15 am
Saltgrass in Norman is very good.   I can't afford it, but every time a vendor wants to take us to lunch, that is the number one choice!

Edit;
They are kinds like the Pappadeaux of steak houses.  Even though a chain, they seem to be keeping their act together.



Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: rebound on February 06, 2018, 10:10:09 am
Landry's corporate owns dozens of brands, and hundreds of restaurants.   Some of them very nice, some simply "good".  I'm sure they have run the numbers on the location, with the hotels, apartments, etc, nearby.   I probably won't go, but it's not a bad brand for that site and should do well.



Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: DowntownDan on February 06, 2018, 03:39:17 pm
http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/saltgrass-steak-house-to-open-tulsa-location/article_d0c44290-967b-5426-8db7-d3cc21c92e5e.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/saltgrass-steak-house-to-open-tulsa-location/article_d0c44290-967b-5426-8db7-d3cc21c92e5e.html) 
I drove past this yesterday and wondered what was happening.  It is behind the Kum & Go in front of the Comfort Inn.  I have never eaten at a Saltgrass but am familiar with the Landry company.  I would think it will do will with all the hotels right there. 

Because when I think of fine steakhouses, I think of Comfort Inn.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: SXSW on February 06, 2018, 04:08:44 pm
Isn't this the same area that was supposed to get a Pappadeaux?  I thought one was originally planned for the area closer to Best Buy/Cost Plus World Market.



Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: rebound on February 06, 2018, 06:14:37 pm
Because when I think of fine steakhouses, I think of Comfort Inn.

Landry's has a few really nice steakhouses in their lineup (McCormick and Schmick's, Morton's, one or two others), but Saltgrass isn't on that tier.  Still,  not a bad fit for that spot.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: Tulsa Zephyr on February 06, 2018, 07:21:09 pm
Because when I think of fine steakhouses, I think of Comfort Inn.

LOL!  I'm thinking it would have been a better fit somewhere else.  I work with someone who said he had the best steak ever at a Saltgrass, but that area on Yale doesn't seem to fit their quality.  Guess it's better to have them than not have them.  We'll see how much longer Outback and Applebee's last after we have Saltgrass as an option.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 06, 2018, 08:22:47 pm
LOL!  I'm thinking it would have been a better fit somewhere else.  I work with someone who said he had the best steak ever at a Saltgrass, but that area on Yale doesn't seem to fit their quality.  Guess it's better to have them than not have them.  We'll see how much longer Outback and Applebee's last after we have Saltgrass as an option.


Saltgrass is much better than those two, but also more expensive.  There will always be a price point/taste tradeoff, so those two will probably keep on going.  Haven't been to Outback in probably 25 years, so am presuming they are the same...   Applebee's - it has been 3 or 4 years...never was very good.




Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: swake on February 07, 2018, 05:21:09 pm

Saltgrass is much better than those two, but also more expensive.  There will always be a price point/taste tradeoff, so those two will probably keep on going.  Haven't been to Outback in probably 25 years, so am presuming they are the same...   Applebee's - it has been 3 or 4 years...never was very good.




I don't know, I checked the menu out and it's a lot more Texas Roadhouse than Flemmings, Mahogany or Ruth's Chris. It looks like just another mediocre chain located by a highway with cheese fries and over salted beef.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 07, 2018, 05:38:38 pm
I don't know, I checked the menu out and it's a lot more Texas Roadhouse than Flemmings, Mahogany or Ruth's Chris. It looks like just another mediocre chain located by a highway with cheese fries and over salted beef.


It is nowhere near those three, but is a noticeable step up from any of the 'peanut-shells-on-the-floor' places.


And I am not dissing peanuts... I like peanuts!!

Edit;  at least the one I go to...


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: Conan71 on February 07, 2018, 07:03:07 pm
I don't know, I checked the menu out and it's a lot more Texas Roadhouse than Flemmings, Mahogany or Ruth's Chris. It looks like just another mediocre chain located by a highway with cheese fries and over salted beef.

The "Salt" in Saltgrass gives me pause.  From a branding standpoint, "Switchgrass", "Sawgrass", or even "Tallgrass" (RIP) give a better connotation to me.  Overly salty beef doesn't sound appealing to me.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 07, 2018, 07:40:19 pm
The "Salt" in Saltgrass gives me pause.  From a branding standpoint, "Switchgrass", "Sawgrass", or even "Tallgrass" (RIP) give a better connotation to me.  Overly salty beef doesn't sound appealing to me.


Guess they had to pick a grass and that was it...



Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: Conan71 on February 07, 2018, 08:38:27 pm

Guess they had to pick a grass and that was it...



Funny, we see more and more people hawking CBD oils, creams, lotions, and other products claimed to have CBD in them around New Mexico.  I hope they go the route of Colorado sooner rather than later to fully legalize it for recreational use.  Then we could have the Hempgrass Steakhouse chain and the signature dessert will be our brownies!


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: joiei on February 07, 2018, 10:38:41 pm

Guess they had to pick a grass and that was it...



After less than a second of googling I found this.

noun
1.
any of several grasses, as Distichlis spicata, that grow in salt marshes or meadows or in alkali soil.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/salt-grass (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/salt-grass)

Each winter, the Longhorn were driven to the Texas Gulf Coast to graze on the rich coastal salt grass. And when they headed for market, they followed the legendary Salt Grass Trail, known far and wide for creating the best beef in the Lone Star State. http://www.saltgrass.com/legend.asp (http://www.saltgrass.com/legend.asp)

The History of the Salt Grass Trail Ride
A Local Legacy   
You might not think that an 88-year-old woman could handle a 70-mile trail ride, but that's exactly what Atha Marks Dimon did in 1999 during the Salt Grass Trail Ride in Texas.
By going on the ride Atha was following in her father's footsteps many years earlier. In the 19th century, pioneer cattlemen herded their cattle to Houston up from the salt grass pastures on the Gulf Coast of Texas, where their cattle had been grazing and fattening up. Times change, and since 1900, cattlemen have not needed to herd their cattle across the open land; instead they use trains.

In 1952, four old-time cowmen decided to stage a re-enactment and joined a group of people on the first Salt Grass Trail Ride. One of those four cowmen was E.H. Marks. In 1999, Marks's daughter, Atha Marks Dimon (at the age of 88), her daughter Athene, her grandson Boyd Vaughan, and great-grandson Reagan Vaughan, rode the Salt Grass Trail -- 70 miles from Brenham to Houston -- in memory of the original cattlemen.

The people that have gone on the trail ride include bankers, fire fighters, even middle school students. The trail ride has caught on, and now more than 6,000 riders participate. http://www.americaslibrary.gov/es/tx/es_tx_trail_1.html (http://www.americaslibrary.gov/es/tx/es_tx_trail_1.html)

The first Saltgrass Steak House opened in March 1991 along the Katy Freeway (I-10) in Houston.[3] It sits along the historic trail where cattle herders would drive their livestock south to graze on the salt grasses of the Texas Gulf Coast. Every year, as team of riders travel the trail before the opening of the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo they pass by the original restaurant.[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltgrass_Steak_House (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltgrass_Steak_House)

Now we all know more than we ever wanted to know. 


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: Conan71 on February 07, 2018, 11:37:54 pm
After less than a second of googling I found this.

noun
1.
any of several grasses, as Distichlis spicata, that grow in salt marshes or meadows or in alkali soil.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/salt-grass (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/salt-grass)

Each winter, the Longhorn were driven to the Texas Gulf Coast to graze on the rich coastal salt grass. And when they headed for market, they followed the legendary Salt Grass Trail, known far and wide for creating the best beef in the Lone Star State. http://www.saltgrass.com/legend.asp (http://www.saltgrass.com/legend.asp)

The History of the Salt Grass Trail Ride
A Local Legacy   
You might not think that an 88-year-old woman could handle a 70-mile trail ride, but that's exactly what Atha Marks Dimon did in 1999 during the Salt Grass Trail Ride in Texas.
By going on the ride Atha was following in her father's footsteps many years earlier. In the 19th century, pioneer cattlemen herded their cattle to Houston up from the salt grass pastures on the Gulf Coast of Texas, where their cattle had been grazing and fattening up. Times change, and since 1900, cattlemen have not needed to herd their cattle across the open land; instead they use trains.

In 1952, four old-time cowmen decided to stage a re-enactment and joined a group of people on the first Salt Grass Trail Ride. One of those four cowmen was E.H. Marks. In 1999, Marks's daughter, Atha Marks Dimon (at the age of 88), her daughter Athene, her grandson Boyd Vaughan, and great-grandson Reagan Vaughan, rode the Salt Grass Trail -- 70 miles from Brenham to Houston -- in memory of the original cattlemen.

The people that have gone on the trail ride include bankers, fire fighters, even middle school students. The trail ride has caught on, and now more than 6,000 riders participate. http://www.americaslibrary.gov/es/tx/es_tx_trail_1.html (http://www.americaslibrary.gov/es/tx/es_tx_trail_1.html)

The first Saltgrass Steak House opened in March 1991 along the Katy Freeway (I-10) in Houston.[3] It sits along the historic trail where cattle herders would drive their livestock south to graze on the salt grasses of the Texas Gulf Coast. Every year, as team of riders travel the trail before the opening of the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo they pass by the original restaurant.[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltgrass_Steak_House (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltgrass_Steak_House)

Now we all know more than we ever wanted to know. 


Great Googling!  Atha sounds a bit like one of our neighbors out here in Cimarron, Linda Davis of the CS Ranch.  She's still a part of the ranch operations in her late 80's and still an active EMT.

Sorry, typical TNF thread drift.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 08, 2018, 09:06:51 am
Funny, we see more and more people hawking CBD oils, creams, lotions, and other products claimed to have CBD in them around New Mexico.  I hope they go the route of Colorado sooner rather than later to fully legalize it for recreational use.  Then we could have the Hempgrass Steakhouse chain and the signature dessert will be our brownies!


Let me know...will be out for a few days...!!   (Weeks..??)





Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 08, 2018, 09:08:33 am
After less than a second of googling I found this.

noun
1.
any of several grasses, as Distichlis spicata, that grow in salt marshes or meadows or in alkali soil.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/salt-grass (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/salt-grass)

Each winter, the Longhorn were driven to the Texas Gulf Coast to graze on the rich coastal salt grass. And when they headed for market, they followed the legendary Salt Grass Trail, known far and wide for creating the best beef in the Lone Star State. http://www.saltgrass.com/legend.asp (http://www.saltgrass.com/legend.asp)

The History of the Salt Grass Trail Ride
A Local Legacy   
You might not think that an 88-year-old woman could handle a 70-mile trail ride, but that's exactly what Atha Marks Dimon did in 1999 during the Salt Grass Trail Ride in Texas.
By going on the ride Atha was following in her father's footsteps many years earlier. In the 19th century, pioneer cattlemen herded their cattle to Houston up from the salt grass pastures on the Gulf Coast of Texas, where their cattle had been grazing and fattening up. Times change, and since 1900, cattlemen have not needed to herd their cattle across the open land; instead they use trains.

In 1952, four old-time cowmen decided to stage a re-enactment and joined a group of people on the first Salt Grass Trail Ride. One of those four cowmen was E.H. Marks. In 1999, Marks's daughter, Atha Marks Dimon (at the age of 88), her daughter Athene, her grandson Boyd Vaughan, and great-grandson Reagan Vaughan, rode the Salt Grass Trail -- 70 miles from Brenham to Houston -- in memory of the original cattlemen.

The people that have gone on the trail ride include bankers, fire fighters, even middle school students. The trail ride has caught on, and now more than 6,000 riders participate. http://www.americaslibrary.gov/es/tx/es_tx_trail_1.html (http://www.americaslibrary.gov/es/tx/es_tx_trail_1.html)

The first Saltgrass Steak House opened in March 1991 along the Katy Freeway (I-10) in Houston.[3] It sits along the historic trail where cattle herders would drive their livestock south to graze on the salt grasses of the Texas Gulf Coast. Every year, as team of riders travel the trail before the opening of the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo they pass by the original restaurant.[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltgrass_Steak_House (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltgrass_Steak_House)

Now we all know more than we ever wanted to know.  



That works.

All this talk about steakhouses...may have to go to Saltgrass for lunch since today it is only a couple miles away....



Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: rebound on February 08, 2018, 09:16:43 am
Funny, we see more and more people hawking CBD oils, creams, lotions, and other products claimed to have CBD in them around New Mexico.  I hope they go the route of Colorado sooner rather than later to fully legalize it for recreational use.  Then we could have the Hempgrass Steakhouse chain and the signature dessert will be our brownies!

Curious on your thoughts about how a statewide vote in NM would go on that.   Up where you are, in the Alburquerque-Raton-Farmington triangle (which is sort of Colorado South), I'm sure recreational use would pass easily.  Not sure about the rest of the state.



Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on February 08, 2018, 09:49:45 am
Curious on your thoughts about how a statewide vote in NM would go on that.   Up where you are, in the Alburquerque-Raton-Farmington triangle (which is sort of Colorado South), I'm sure recreational use would pass easily.  Not sure about the rest of the state.



Most people in NM lives in that area... Around 1.2 million of the 2 million inhabitants. It seems like that should easily pass.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on February 08, 2018, 10:37:20 am
Most people in NM lives in that area... Around 1.2 million of the 2 million inhabitants. It seems like that should easily pass.


Just got me thinking about that. Here's a 2010 Census map of population per square mile. It's more concentrated than I thought. (found a newer one)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/New_Mexico_population_map.png)


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: swake on February 08, 2018, 10:59:16 am
The "Salt" in Saltgrass gives me pause.  From a branding standpoint, "Switchgrass", "Sawgrass", or even "Tallgrass" (RIP) give a better connotation to me.  Overly salty beef doesn't sound appealing to me.

Salt is the main reason Outback exists. I've never understood it.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: rebound on February 08, 2018, 11:17:25 am
Most people in NM lives in that area... Around 1.2 million of the 2 million inhabitants. It seems like that should easily pass.

I'd think so.  I think it will come down to "mountain people versus flatlanders".   And even down South, there's the Ruidoso and Roswell areas, which are full of interesting folk.   


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on February 08, 2018, 11:24:49 am
Just got me thinking about that. Here's a 2010 Census map of population per square mile. It's more concentrated than I thought. (found a newer one)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/New_Mexico_population_map.png)

Notice that the 2nd bar is 1 to 10 per square mile to show how the vast majority of NM is extremely sparsely populated. Only a small tiny fraction of the state has more than 100 per square mile (which you could pretty much fit into ABQ's county).

Compare that to Oklahoma's where quite a large percentage has 100+ per square mile and mainly just the NW is sparsely populated. And Oklahoma is a relatively low population-density state.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Oklahoma_population_map.png)


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on February 08, 2018, 11:44:13 am
Notice that the 2nd bar is 1 to 10 per square mile to show how the vast majority of NM is extremely sparsely populated. Only a small tiny fraction of the state has more than 100 per square mile (which you could pretty much fit into ABQ's county).

Compare that to Oklahoma's where quite a large percentage has 100+ per square mile and mainly just the NW is sparsely populated. And Oklahoma is a relatively low population-density state.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Oklahoma_population_map.png)

And most of the reason for the dispersion of population in OK is agriculturally based with some manufacturing, and I would think that most of the central plains states would be similar. I just thought there were more people in southern NM, not necessarily as concentrated in five or six small areas.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: Conan71 on February 08, 2018, 12:05:26 pm

Let me know...will be out for a few days...!!   (Weeks..??)





Trinidad is only 50 miles away.  Get a sex change and all the weed/weed products you want.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: Conan71 on February 08, 2018, 12:07:56 pm
Curious on your thoughts about how a statewide vote in NM would go on that.   Up where you are, in the Alburquerque-Raton-Farmington triangle (which is sort of Colorado South), I'm sure recreational use would pass easily.  Not sure about the rest of the state.



Colfax County were we live is pretty conservative.  I would assume ABQ, SF, Taos, and other larger urban areas would carry it.  I'm not currently aware of a pending referendum on it, but I would think it is not far off.  We do have medical MJ here, apparently though I'm not really sure how it works and you don't hear about pot busts in our are but again, I would have no idea if anyone is cultivating or not.  It's just not something we see, smell, or hear of around here.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: rebound on February 08, 2018, 12:24:42 pm
Colfax County were we live is pretty conservative.  I would assume ABQ, SF, Taos, and other larger urban areas would carry it.  I'm not currently aware of a pending referendum on it, but I would think it is not far off.  We do have medical MJ here, apparently though I'm not really sure how it works and you don't hear about pot busts in our are but again, I would have no idea if anyone is cultivating or not.  It's just not something we see, smell, or hear of around here.

That illustrates my "mountain vs plains" theory.   Cimarron I could see being conservative.  But I'd be curious how Eagle Nest votes. I'm sure there's a few latent hippies hanging out there.


Title: Re: Saltgrass Steakhouse coming to Tulsa
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 08, 2018, 02:21:41 pm
Trinidad is only 50 miles away.  Get a sex change and all the weed/weed products you want.



Lol...will pass on that, but would check out the steakhouse and their signature dessert - brownies!!

Got some friends...will pass along the word about Trinidad.