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Title: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Vashta Nerada on April 16, 2017, 06:13:30 pm
When something is so bat$hit dystopian that even FOX News Network is appalled, it deserves its own thread.

Lets start off with the latest ISIS video:
(http://www.palmbeachpost.com/rf/image_inline/Pub/p8/CmgSharedContent/2017/04/11/Videos/4015226.vpx.jpg)

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/10/15246456/lake-county-florida-sheriff-police-video-drugs






Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on May 25, 2017, 09:47:56 am
We dont have a "If Trump can do it so can I" topic so this will have to do.

Fox News team witnesses GOP House candidate 'body slam' reporter
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.amp.html



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: guido911 on May 26, 2017, 01:22:00 am
We dont have a "If Trump can do it so can I" topic so this will have to do.

Fox News team witnesses GOP House candidate 'body slam' reporter
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.amp.html


And he still won the election...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAuRDLlXgAA59tz.jpg)


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on May 26, 2017, 09:27:56 am
And he still won the election...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAuRDLlXgAA59tz.jpg)

And the line of questioning will be "how crazy are these people that voted for him" as opposed to what it should be, what about the other guy so turned off people that they still refused to vote for him. Self reflection is a thing.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Tulsa Zephyr on May 26, 2017, 10:14:30 am
Actually over a quarter of a million voters had cast their ballot before the incident.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: rebound on May 26, 2017, 10:36:28 am
And of course the rampant "Democrats are evil" brainwashing...


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: guido911 on May 26, 2017, 10:49:35 am
Actually over a quarter of a million voters had cast their ballot before the incident.

Those voters that went for Gianforte early of course all would have voted differently and the outcome would be different had they just voted in person on Election Day.

This whole incident got so overblown by the media, because certainly they are always a victim of mean ol Trump and the GOP, that it became a joke to me.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on May 26, 2017, 11:56:17 am

This whole incident got so overblown by the media, because certainly they are always a victim of mean ol Trump and the GOP, that it became a joke to me.

Trump's not so good on history, but this financial reporter thinks history is what we should be paying attention to right now:


What we are witnessing today is exactly how it has happened historically. It goes in steps. Countries do not leap from civilization to barbarism in a single bound. You do not wake up one morning to discover mobs burning books in the streets. The decline happens by degrees. Each step enables the next.

And what is being normalized here now is not normal.

The voters of Montana have just rewarded Greg Gianforte for beating up a reporter by electing him to Congress as their representative. Many on the right are crowing. Gianforte was reportedly swamped with extra donations following the attack. Republican congressman Duncan Hunter of California said the attack was merely “inappropriate” — unless, he added, the reporter “deserved it.” The president has celebrated the result. Popular right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham actually mocked the reporter and suggested he should have fought back against Gianforte and his aides. (One can only imagine what she would have said if he actually had done so.) She was not alone.

None of these people are being subject to moral sanction by the market or their supporters so far as anyone can tell. Gianforte has only been cited legally for a misdemeanor by the local sheriff, who was a campaign contributor. The smart money says he will get away with it, and take up his lucrative sinecure in Washington.

And as every conservative knows, human beings respond to incentives. If this sort of action is rewarded and not punished, it will happen more often.

The reporter in question, the Guardian’s Ben Jacobs, was doing exactly — not roughly, but exactly — what people like Thomas Jefferson were thinking about when they included the First Amendment in the Constitution. He was trying to ask the Republican congressional candidate for his view on the new health-care bill, which according to the Congressional Budget Office will cost 23 million people their health insurance. There is, literally, no more legitimate function of a reporter in our democracy than asking a congressional candidate for his position on a new law just before an election.

Yet there is no longer even a consensus in defense of this.

What I personally find most depressing is the tribalism. People on the right are defending Gianforte because he’s on their “team” and Jacobs is on the “other” team. Their reaction would have been exactly the opposite if it had been the other way around. If you want to see how commonplace this is, check out social media — or, indeed, the likely comments below this article.

But such thinking is the logic of soccer hooligans. It should have no place, zero, in public debate. To witness people in public life incorporating this into their reasoning and behavior is more than ominous.

How do you get here? First you lay the groundwork with a long-term, cynical marketing campaign against the “mainstream” press. Then a presidential candidate urges his supporters to “knock the crap” out of protestors.

Then he gets his supporters so mad at the press that a reporter needs to be escorted from a rally by the Secret Service for her own protection.

Then the candidate jokes about whether he would ever kill reporters. Then he calls them the “enemy of the people.” Then one of his colleagues physically attacks one of them.

And at each stage along the process, some people cheer him, others defend him, and others shrug it off. Each unsanctioned outrage enables the next. Sixty-two million people voted for Trump. The Republican Party and the people of Montana have now legitimized violence. The next step in the sequence is obvious.

When you travel abroad these days, it’s like a cloud lifts. Stepping outside Trumpland, even for a few days, reminds you of what life is like in the normal world. You and your family should have that option as a matter of right.

The point about a stable country is that it has the rule of law, and the point about the rule of law is that, above all, it is impartial. This is why the traditional figure of justice is blindfolded. Assault is assault. There aren’t “teams” or sides.

Partisan justice is not a feature of a civil society. It is a feature of a civil war.
  http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-time-to-plan-an-escape-route-for-you-and-your-money-from-trumpland-2017-05-26



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: BKDotCom on May 26, 2017, 12:15:46 pm
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Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on May 26, 2017, 12:57:27 pm
patric, that is an excellent assessment of how we got to a point in civilization where reporters think they are owed anything they want.  ;)

Look I ain't saying Gianforte didn't do something incredibly stupid. But his stupid behavior doesn't excuse stupid behavior exhibited all the time by pushy reporters that in my opinion cross a lot of lines, all because "it is their right". I'm about sick of people granting themselves rights.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Townsend on May 26, 2017, 01:07:52 pm
patric, that is an excellent assessment of how we got to a point in civilization where reporters think they are owed anything they want.  ;)

Look I ain't saying Gianforte didn't do something incredibly stupid. But his stupid behavior doesn't excuse stupid behavior exhibited all the time by pushy reporters that in my opinion cross a lot of lines, all because "it is their right". I'm about sick of people granting themselves rights.

Yes, Trump said that the reporters are the enemy...and non Euro-whites...and non-protestants...and scientists...


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Townsend on May 26, 2017, 01:28:25 pm
Oh...and non-rich people or proper medical care.

Pretty soon dentistry will be deemed as anti-Trump.

Many with all their teeth will be threatened by some crazy racist woman in the Walmarts.


(http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10495480.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Racist-customer-harasses-women-in-Walmart-until-hero-employee-steps-in.jpg)

Now the world knows what she wipes her Trump with.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on May 26, 2017, 02:01:09 pm
Yes, Trump said that the reporters are the enemy

If they play the part...

Just saying, the press hasn't exactly been impartial lately. And with all that crow they had to eat last November, I'd be bitter too.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Townsend on May 26, 2017, 02:12:07 pm
If they play the part...


It's a true shame when that's written with sincerity.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on May 26, 2017, 02:42:54 pm
It's a true shame when that's written with sincerity.

It is a shame that the press has taken such an (selectively) adversarial stance. I completely agree with you.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on May 26, 2017, 04:17:28 pm
It is a shame that the press has taken such an (selectively) adversarial stance. I completely agree with you.

And the current adminstration hasn't?  He's been pounding that 'fake news' diatribe since well before the election.

Anyone who believes it has been conned.  Remember, the country elected a guy who is a seven time bankrupt businessman who gloats about grabbing women by the vajayjay.

Sorry E...the job of the Fourth Estate is to always question a bullshitter.  That's what Trump is at the core.  And don't say 'all politicians are bullshitters'.  Yes they  may be, but Trump stands alone atop bullshit mountain.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on May 26, 2017, 05:57:48 pm
patric, that is an excellent assessment of how we got to a point in civilization where reporters think they are owed anything they want.  ;)

Look I ain't saying Gianforte didn't do something incredibly stupid. But his stupid behavior doesn't excuse stupid behavior exhibited all the time by pushy reporters that in my opinion cross a lot of lines, all because "it is their right". I'm about sick of people granting themselves rights.

The men who founded this country seemed to feel that the pursuit of truth was so much a right they put first on the list.

As far as Gianforte, his sin wasnt so much A&B on a reporter but issuing "alternative facts" blaming the victim; that, and apparently being too stupid to realize the recorder the reporter had in his hand might actually be recording.

When your political gameplan is built on making up your own facts, of course your biggest threat are the people whose job it is to investigate those facts.  Gianforte might never roll another reporter again, but he's demonstrated he has no qualms about adjusting the truth to suit his needs.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: guido911 on May 26, 2017, 06:11:15 pm
Well, the people of Montana do not seem to care what the founding fathers think about the press, or who's facts to believe. They are probably like many of us and don't care about whiny reporters. I just thought this whole thing was hilarious given all the beatings that left-wingers/pu$$iss have been handing out on conservatives on college campuses and rallies.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Breadburner on May 26, 2017, 08:56:35 pm
The b@itch Slap heard round the World.....


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on May 27, 2017, 09:38:05 am
Well, the people of Montana do not seem to care what the founding fathers think about the press, or who's facts to believe. They are probably like many of us and don't care about whiny reporters. I just thought this whole thing was hilarious given all the beatings that left-wingers/pu$$iss have been handing out on conservatives on college campuses and rallies.

The people making America great Vs the people who made America?   Their ignorance is a weakness, not a strength.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: guido911 on May 27, 2017, 09:04:53 pm
The people making America great Vs the people who made America?   Their ignorance is a weakness, not a strength.

And where do you fit in the "make America great" and "made America great"? Are you in the "I do jack smile and choose to b*tch" group of people?


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on May 28, 2017, 10:30:19 am
Well, the people of Montana do not seem to care what the founding fathers think about the press, or who's facts to believe. They are probably like many of us and don't care about whiny reporters. I just thought this whole thing was hilarious given all the beatings that left-wingers/pu$$iss have been handing out on conservatives on college campuses and rallies.

Thats simply not true.  The powerful must always be held accountible, from the head of state tapping out 140 characters in the dead of night to the frightened cop with his finger on the trigger, we know we have the right to know the truth from people who claim to act on our behalf.
Montana was just the latest representation of people taking their freedom for granted.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on July 15, 2017, 10:14:28 am
‘Lie after lie after lie’: Fox News’s Shepard Smith has a Cronkite moment on Russia
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/14/lie-after-lie-after-lie-fox-news-shepard-smith-has-a-cronkite-moment-on-russia/


“There are still people out there who believe we’re making it up, and one day they’re gonna realize we’re not, and look around and go, ‘Where are we? And why are we getting told all these lies?’”




Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on July 15, 2017, 06:47:39 pm
patric, that is an excellent assessment of how we got to a point in civilization where reporters think they are owed anything they want.  ;)

Look I ain't saying Gianforte didn't do something incredibly stupid. But his stupid behavior doesn't excuse stupid behavior exhibited all the time by pushy reporters that in my opinion cross a lot of lines, all because "it is their right". I'm about sick of people granting themselves rights.


Actually, in case you missed it in school...the First Amendment acknowledges and openly STATES that right.  It's that free press thing....

That pesky Constitution shooting down right wing extremist BS again...  Way to go Montana!  Going against the Constitution just like Okrahoma does!!




Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on January 24, 2018, 06:24:07 pm
A new FoxNews.com article contradicts wild claims made by, among others, Fox News’s leading television hosts.
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/24/16929776/fbi-texts-fox-news




Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on January 25, 2018, 10:32:05 am
A new FoxNews.com article contradicts wild claims made by, among others, Fox News’s leading television hosts.
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/24/16929776/fbi-texts-fox-news





It's Fake Fox News.  Why would anyone expect anything different.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on March 03, 2018, 08:09:53 pm
Fox News host Tucker Carlson slammed President Trump for calling this week to confiscate guns without due process.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/03/02/what-does-it-take-for-fox-news-stars-to-turn-on-trump-we-are-finding-out


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on March 20, 2018, 07:42:49 pm
Fox News commentator exits with a searing attack on Fox News

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/fox-news-commentator-exits-with-a-searing-attack-on-fox-news/2018/03/20/fc876fc4-2c81-11e8-8ad6-fbc50284fce8_story.html

“In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration,” Colonel Peters wrote in his message, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times.
“Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association,” he added. “Now I am ashamed.”

“When prime-time hosts — who have never served our country in any capacity — dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest attacks on the FBI, the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller — all the while scaremongering with lurid warnings of ‘deep-state’ machinations — I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove. To me, Fox News is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.”


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Conan71 on March 20, 2018, 10:19:41 pm
Fox News commentator exits with a searing attack on Fox News

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/fox-news-commentator-exits-with-a-searing-attack-on-fox-news/2018/03/20/fc876fc4-2c81-11e8-8ad6-fbc50284fce8_story.html

“In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration,” Colonel Peters wrote in his message, a copy of which was obtained by The New York Times.
“Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association,” he added. “Now I am ashamed.”

“When prime-time hosts — who have never served our country in any capacity — dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest attacks on the FBI, the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller — all the while scaremongering with lurid warnings of ‘deep-state’ machinations — I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove. To me, Fox News is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.”


The Colonel makes it sound as if Fox is the only one wittingly harming our system of government for a profit. 


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: cannon_fodder on March 21, 2018, 07:56:52 am
The Colonel makes it sound as if Fox is the only one wittingly harming our system of government for a profit. 

Sure, but don't fall into the trap of believing that Fox News, Infowars, or RT are just the right wing versions of CNN, Washington Post, or the New York Times.  Objectively, that simply isn't true. You can look at fact checking or narrative, it simply isn't an equivalency.

The narrative has shifted far to the right. What would have been considered slightly right a few years back is now being called leftist on many "sources."  Simply because some want to shift the narrative far to the right, it doesn't shift the entire political spectrum. One side has gone so far, it's tempting to shift the center.  Don't fall for it.

Absurd examples:

A:  Lets round up everyone with red shoes and ship them off the planet!

B. Whoa!  That's crazy.  No way.  Lets treat them like regular citizens.

A. Okay, then lets just round them up, take all their property and deny them the right to vote.

B. Gee, that seems like the middle ground.  It must not be left or right, but center!


or

A. Nazis are bad.

B. Nazis are good.

Central?: Some Nazis are very fine people.


or

A. The Campaign knowingly met with representatives of a hostile foreign nation with the intent of gaining a campaign advantage against its rival.

B. Not it didn't, if it did it didn't matter, if it matters someone else did something worse.

Centrist?: Maybe they did, but it might not have mattered.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 21, 2018, 08:20:06 am
The Colonel makes it sound as if Fox is the only one wittingly harming our system of government for a profit. 


Don't forget the extremist right tea party in Congress.  They are doing it, too.



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Conan71 on March 21, 2018, 09:35:04 am
Sure, but don't fall into the trap of believing that Fox News, Infowars, or RT are just the right wing versions of CNN, Washington Post, or the New York Times.  Objectively, that simply isn't true. You can look at fact checking or narrative, it simply isn't an equivalency.

The narrative has shifted far to the right. What would have been considered slightly right a few years back is now being called leftist on many "sources."  Simply because some want to shift the narrative far to the right, it doesn't shift the entire political spectrum. One side has gone so far, it's tempting to shift the center.  Don't fall for it.

Absurd examples:

A:  Lets round up everyone with red shoes and ship them off the planet!

B. Whoa!  That's crazy.  No way.  Lets treat them like regular citizens.

A. Okay, then lets just round them up, take all their property and deny them the right to vote.

B. Gee, that seems like the middle ground.  It must not be left or right, but center!


or

A. Nazis are bad.

B. Nazis are good.

Central?: Some Nazis are very fine people.


or

A. The Campaign knowingly met with representatives of a hostile foreign nation with the intent of gaining a campaign advantage against its rival.

B. Not it didn't, if it did it didn't matter, if it matters someone else did something worse.

Centrist?: Maybe they did, but it might not have mattered.

Actually, I was comparing more to MSNBC and their constant droning and spittle-laced tirades to undo the Bush II admin from 2001 through 2008 and fawning over Obama when he came to power when I made the comment with Chris Matthews, Rachel Madcow, and psychotic Keef Olberdoosh leading the charge on that network.  I don't watch any news outlets anymore and I even unsubscribed to Yahoo News alerts in my email because it has become so focused on Trump, his whores, and his whole clown show. 

Quite literally, we have a pro-Trump Press and Opposition Press playing out in various outlets.  Stories may be fact-filled but editorial decisions are being made at networks and media outlets which decide which side they care to present.  The fact that the Colonel ignores this as if Fox is the only network spewing directed propaganda, I find rather myopic.



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Conan71 on March 21, 2018, 09:35:36 am

Don't forget the extremist right tea party in Congress.  They are doing it, too.


Along with Nancy Pelosi and her band of plunderers.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Townsend on March 21, 2018, 10:49:31 am
The fact that the Colonel ignores this as if Fox is the only network spewing directed propaganda, I find rather myopic.



He worked for Fox News.  I think that is why he talked about Fox.  He is no longer proud to work there.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on March 21, 2018, 01:22:40 pm
A. The Campaign knowingly met with representatives of a hostile foreign nation with the intent of gaining a campaign advantage against its rival.

B. Not it didn't, if it did it didn't matter, if it matters someone else did something worse.

Centrist?: Maybe they did, but it might not have mattered.

This last one here leads me to believe you don't watch CNN (which is a good thing in my opinion). I'll buy that Fox is NOT the opposite of the Times and Post, but CNN, oh it is exactly the opposite of CNN. They have really lost there way over the last year or so.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on March 21, 2018, 01:58:15 pm
This last one here leads me to believe you don't watch CNN (which is a good thing in my opinion). I'll buy that Fox is NOT the opposite of the Times and Post, but CNN, oh it is exactly the opposite of CNN. They have really lost there way over the last year or so.

Cite an example.  Just because Cheeto Jesus calls CNN "Fake News" doesn't make it so.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on March 21, 2018, 03:44:13 pm
Cite an example.  Just because Cheeto Jesus calls CNN "Fake News" doesn't make it so.

Be honest and tell me you haven't noticed?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/08/cnn-trump-error-journalism-287914
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/business/media/cnn-retraction-trump-scaramucci.html

CNN has appeared to leave journalistic integrity by the wayside if it means implicating trump more than any network that I am aware of. Even more so than MSNBC and that's really saying something.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on March 21, 2018, 04:39:44 pm
Be honest and tell me you haven't noticed?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/08/cnn-trump-error-journalism-287914
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/business/media/cnn-retraction-trump-scaramucci.html

CNN has appeared to leave journalistic integrity by the wayside if it means implicating trump more than any network that I am aware of. Even more so than MSNBC and that's really saying something.

Much like Conan, I don't watch CNN or any other cable news outlet for that matter.  I use a combination of sources to get my news these days.  But yeah, if you believe that CNN is fake news, then what is Fox?


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on March 21, 2018, 05:26:12 pm
Much like Conan, I don't watch CNN or any other cable news outlet for that matter.  I use a combination of sources to get my news these days.  But yeah, if you believe that CNN is fake news, then what is Fox?

Fake news. Have you been paying attentions to the points being made? I was likening them, not distinguishing Fox from CNN.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: cannon_fodder on March 22, 2018, 07:25:44 am
Pretty much exactly what I was describing.  CNN has retractions and makes mistakes, rushes to judgment, and piles one.  They are selling ad space.  But it then publishes retractions and and eats crow.  In nearly all reviews for factual accuracy, CNN does well.  In reviews for bias, CNN is just left of center. There are a myriad of studies on this topic.

As you pointed out, the two biggest errors at CNN were:

1) Citing an email offering access to WikiLeaks for Trump officials as Sept. 4 instead of Sept. 14th, and
2) Firing reporters who ran with a story before properly vetting it.

Now go look up Fox, InfoWars, RT, or whatever.   Some outlets are so far off factual accuracy and so devastatingly biased that they shift the narrative.  So one looks at an outlet that is close to neutral and it suddenly looks like it must be a political opposite.  So lets slap them both with the same label.  Obviously they are both fake news...

And some Nazi's are decent people.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on March 22, 2018, 07:45:09 am
Pretty much exactly what I was describing.  CNN has retractions and makes mistakes, rushes to judgment, and piles one.  They are selling ad space.  But it then publishes retractions and and eats crow.  In nearly all reviews for factual accuracy, CNN does well.  In reviews for bias, CNN is just left of center. There are a myriad of studies on this topic.

As you pointed out, the two biggest errors at CNN were:

1) Citing an email offering access to WikiLeaks for Trump officials as Sept. 4 instead of Sept. 14th, and
2) Firing reporters who ran with a story before properly vetting it.

Now go look up Fox, InfoWars, RT, or whatever.   Some outlets are so far off factual accuracy and so devastatingly biased that they shift the narrative.  So one looks at an outlet that is close to neutral and it suddenly looks like it must be a political opposite.  So lets slap them both with the same label.  Obviously they are both fake news...

And some Nazi's are decent people.

While CNN may not be in perfect lock step with Fox News, I see that as their goal. They saw that Fox News could make a killing selling hard right news while purporting to be "fair and balanced". In my opinion, unless a dramatic change is made at CNN, it's only a matter of time before CNN and Fox are perfect ideological opposites. Salacious slightly misleading scrawls across the screen, big personalities that are more fun to watch than they are properly prepared to discuss complex subjects, the constant drumbeat of negative stories on their ideological foes. That's what I see. It's Fox 10 years ago. They have a lot of lost time to make up, and it seems they are doing there best to catch up.

In all honesty, I only know what Fox is doing through third party reporting. I do from time to time witness what is going on at CNN, but you could probably add up the hours I've watched over the last two months on one hand. It was enough for me. I prefer print/online news as it generally at least takes a moment of thought before hitting the send button.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on March 22, 2018, 08:31:13 am
I've been using this site lately:

https://www.allsides.com


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 22, 2018, 09:01:04 am
While CNN may not be in perfect lock step with Fox News, I see that as their goal. They saw that Fox News could make a killing selling hard right news while purporting to be "fair and balanced". In my opinion, unless a dramatic change is made at CNN, it's only a matter of time before CNN and Fox are perfect ideological opposites. Salacious slightly misleading scrawls across the screen, big personalities that are more fun to watch than they are properly prepared to discuss complex subjects, the constant drumbeat of negative stories on their ideological foes. That's what I see. It's Fox 10 years ago. They have a lot of lost time to make up, and it seems they are doing there best to catch up.

In all honesty, I only know what Fox is doing through third party reporting. I do from time to time witness what is going on at CNN, but you could probably add up the hours I've watched over the last two months on one hand. It was enough for me. I prefer print/online news as it generally at least takes a moment of thought before hitting the send button.


Not even close to Fox 10 years ago.

Like CF said, when they mess up, they admit it, retract it, apologize and eat crow.  Fake Fox doubles down.  Every time.


And some Nazi's really are not decent people.  None of them are.  (Lest the irony of the 'decent people' sarcasm escape the minions, which it has, and they continue to believe...)




Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: swake on March 22, 2018, 09:41:59 am
Fox is not the right wing equivalent of CNN, they are more like MSNBC, Slate or Huffpo, if not even more slanted than those lately. For the most part anyway.

I listen to Fox some in the car on Sirius and on Shep Smith's show they were being as tough on Trump as CNN, if not more so. Later I heard the afternoon show, Fox Five? If was as if the Trump campaign wrote the whole show. Pure unhinged propaganda.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on March 22, 2018, 09:46:45 am
Fox is not the right wing equivalent of CNN, they are more like MSNBC, Slate or Huffpo, if not even more slanted than those lately. For the most part anyway.

I listen to Fox some in the car on Sirius and on Shep Smith's show they were being as tough on Trump as CNN, if not more so. Later I heard the afternoon show, Fox Five? If was as if the Trump campaign wrote the whole show. Pure unhinged propaganda.

How does Shep stay on Fox?  I've always been baffled.  Whether it was his rant about torture, or his criticism of Fox's beloved Cheeto Jesus, I've wondered about why they don't dismiss him for toeing the network line.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on March 22, 2018, 10:12:24 am
How does Shep stay on Fox?  I've always been baffled.  Whether it was his rant about torture, or his criticism of Fox's beloved Cheeto Jesus, I've wondered about why they don't dismiss him for toeing the network line.

It's a bit of credibility that they can hang on to.

Fox daytime used to be half way down the middle. After 5pm though was always a completely different story. Now, however (as you are also seeing in other networks and in print), opinion is bleeding into the news sections. 10-15 years ago, I honestly thought of Fox News daytime in the same light as I did CNN and MSNBC daytime. Pretty boring, basic reporting with little opinion. Yes, they probably made decisions on what to actually air that may have been biased, but that has been going on for a really long time in all formats.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on March 31, 2018, 09:38:10 pm
Earlier this month, CNN’s Brian Stelter broke the news that Sinclair Broadcast Group, owner or operator of nearly 200 television stations in the U.S., would be forcing its news anchors to record a promo about “the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country.” The script, which parrots Donald Trump’s oft-declarations of developments negative to his presidency as “fake news,” brought upheaval to newsrooms already dismayed with Sinclair’s consistent interference to bring right-wing propaganda to local television broadcasts.

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-americas-largest-local-tv-owner-turned-its-news-anc-1824233490

In Tulsa, the Sinclair Broadcast station is KTUL.



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on March 31, 2018, 09:59:41 pm
Earlier this month, CNN’s Brian Stelter broke the news that Sinclair Broadcast Group, owner or operator of nearly 200 television stations in the U.S., would be forcing its news anchors to record a promo about “the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country.” The script, which parrots Donald Trump’s oft-declarations of developments negative to his presidency as “fake news,” brought upheaval to newsrooms already dismayed with Sinclair’s consistent interference to bring right-wing propaganda to local television broadcasts.

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-americas-largest-local-tv-owner-turned-its-news-anc-1824233490

In Tulsa, the Sinclair Broadcast station is KTUL.



I stopped watching those guys as soon as John Oliver did his piece on Sinclair last July.  Fox 25 is Sinclair's OKC affiliate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on April 01, 2018, 01:03:23 pm
I stopped watching those guys as soon as John Oliver did his piece on Sinclair last July.  Fox 25 is Sinclair's OKC affiliate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc


Tulsa is specifically mentioned:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGIYU2Xznb4

KTUL 8 was always the farm report station; the Muskogee station that happened to have its studio in Tulsa.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 01, 2018, 07:16:10 pm
Earlier this month, CNN’s Brian Stelter broke the news that Sinclair Broadcast Group, owner or operator of nearly 200 television stations in the U.S., would be forcing its news anchors to record a promo about “the troubling trend of irresponsible, one sided news stories plaguing our country.” The script, which parrots Donald Trump’s oft-declarations of developments negative to his presidency as “fake news,” brought upheaval to newsrooms already dismayed with Sinclair’s consistent interference to bring right-wing propaganda to local television broadcasts.

https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/how-americas-largest-local-tv-owner-turned-its-news-anc-1824233490

In Tulsa, the Sinclair Broadcast station is KTUL.




I saw Fox Fake News in OKC doing one of those about a week and a half ago one evening when I was stuck there.   Didn't know whether to laugh hysterically or go puke...



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on April 02, 2018, 08:21:50 am

I saw Fox Fake News in OKC doing one of those about a week and a half ago one evening when I was stuck there.   Didn't know whether to laugh hysterically or go puke...




Sinclair Broadcasting Orders Local Anchors To Record Bizarre 'Hostage' Video

In 2016, Jared Kusher, president’s son-in-law and adviser, said the campaign had struck a deal with Sinclair to give the network more access in exchange for running interviews with Trump without commentary, Politico reported.

“It was a standard package, but an extended package, extended story where you’d hear more directly from candidate on the issue instead of hearing all the spin and all the rhetoric,” Sinclair spokesman Scott Livingston told Politico at the time.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sinclair-anchors-script_us_5ac18d08e4b055e50acea0b6


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: TeeDub on April 02, 2018, 08:34:45 am

You point on this is what again?   



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on April 02, 2018, 08:47:58 am
You point on this is what again?   



Seriously?  So a media company forcing its anchors and affiliates to spew propaganda using must run segments about fake news when said media company employs the same tactics using fake news isn't even the least bit concerning?

Watch my link to John Oliver's segment a few posts above this.  You may not like his show, but watch the segment.  He rarely gets his sources wrong.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on April 02, 2018, 10:08:51 am
An interview with a political personality is now propaganda now? So C-SPAN essentially propaganda as well?

I guess if you can prove they are scripting the questions, then I might buy it.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on April 02, 2018, 11:30:47 am
An interview with a political personality is now propaganda now? So C-SPAN essentially propaganda as well?

I guess if you can prove they are scripting the questions, then I might buy it.


"Enhanced Access"?




When this happens in the context of an administration dedicated to keeping people stupid enough to believe all its lies, you have reached a critical mass driving the country inexorably toward the result of Mr. Madison’s great warning:

    “A popular Government, without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy; or, perhaps both.”


https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19660484/trump-sinclair-propaganda/


Sinclair Hired Reporter From Russian Propaganda Outlet RT Who Produced ‘Must-Run’ ‘Deep State’ Segment
http://www.newsweek.com/sinclair-broadcast-group-must-run-deep-state-rt-russia-today-867029


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: TeeDub on April 02, 2018, 12:22:17 pm

Instead I think I should take my cues from kids who aren't old enough to vote or drink?

Oh and who paid for their trips to march against the 2nd amendment again?   Because at 16, I can guarantee I didn't have enough money (or enough care) to go to DC and participate.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on April 02, 2018, 12:33:34 pm
Instead I think I should take my cues from kids who aren't old enough to vote or drink?

Oh and who paid for their trips to march against the 2nd amendment again?   Because at 16, I can guarantee I didn't have enough money (or enough care) to go to DC and participate.

Yeah, because teenage highschool students marching because they'd rather not die in school in a mass shooting should be considered a bad thing?

What are your thoughts on the teacher walkout...oh never mind, I'm sure you're probably like the folks saying they should be in class teaching.

JFC.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: TeeDub on April 02, 2018, 12:37:55 pm
Yes, I think they should be teaching...     (Perhaps someone forgot to tell them $6,100/yr is a victory.)


Strange, do they walk out and march to protest opiate addiction and drug related deaths?   Auto accidents?   Anything else?   There is a much higher likelihood of any of those happening than school shootings.

I remember being in high school...  Any reason to get out of class was why we protested.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: TeeDub on April 02, 2018, 12:45:43 pm

Oh, and just for the sake of irony....

They led a national march. Now Parkland students return to a school they say 'feels like jail'
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/01/us/parkland-florida-students-return-school/index.html



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Ed W on April 02, 2018, 01:43:45 pm
So Sinclair traded off journalistic integrity, that ability to analyze and even fact check, for "enhanced access"?


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on April 02, 2018, 09:31:41 pm
So Sinclair traded off journalistic integrity, that ability to analyze and even fact check, for "enhanced access"?

Sinclair forces trusted local journalists to lend their credibility to shoddy reporting and commentary that, if it ran in other countries, we would dismiss as propaganda.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-weiss-sinclair-television-propaganda_us_5ac2c6d4e4b09712fec38b95


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 02, 2018, 09:33:59 pm
An interview with a political personality is now propaganda now? So C-SPAN essentially propaganda as well?

I guess if you can prove they are scripting the questions, then I might buy it.


No.  You wouldn't.  Which is truly sad.   You didn't accept that Trump is a perverted pedolic sicko even when you heard him admit to it in his own words.  You don't accept that he ridiculed a handicapped guy, even when the video is widely available and was played several times by real news outlets.   You didn't accept that he insulted our POW's by calling them cowards, even though he said it in his own words.  

So, no, no amount of truth will cause the Minions to accept.



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on April 02, 2018, 10:09:02 pm

No.  You wouldn't.  Which is truly sad.   You didn't accept that Trump is a perverted pedolic sicko even when you heard him admit to it in his own words.  You don't accept that he ridiculed a handicapped guy, even when the video is widely available and was played several times by real news outlets.   You didn't accept that he insulted our POW's by calling them cowards, even though he said it in his own words.  

So, no, no amount of truth will cause the Minions to accept.



How refreshing, the same response you give for pretty much anything that may disparage Trump.

What's truly sad, is you can't seem to grasp that the person you are trying to describe above is not me.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on April 02, 2018, 10:38:13 pm
How refreshing, the same response you give for pretty much anything that may disparage Trump.

What's truly sad, is you can't seem to grasp that the person you are trying to describe above is not me.

Don't forget that in their eyes Hillary/Obama/Sanders/Warren/Pelosi/Schumer/Schultz/Waters/Schiff et al, walk on water and are the only righteous ones.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: TeeDub on April 03, 2018, 07:24:19 am

No.  You wouldn't.  Which is truly sad.   You didn't accept that Trump is a perverted pedolic sicko even when you heard him admit to it in his own words.  You don't accept that he ridiculed a handicapped guy, even when the video is widely available and was played several times by real news outlets.   You didn't accept that he insulted our POW's by calling them cowards, even though he said it in his own words.  

So, no, no amount of truth will cause the Minions to accept.



Yup.   Whenever he gets backed into a corner, this is what comes dribbling out.   


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on April 03, 2018, 09:55:49 am
Yup.   Whenever he gets backed into a corner, this is what comes dribbling out.  


KTUL just hired another newsreader:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cPTfZyi0ius/hqdefault.jpg)

Taco Coldmeat?



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: TeeDub on April 03, 2018, 11:50:54 am

Is she related to LeAnn Taylor?

(http://kotv.images.worldnow.com/images/6497170_G.jpg)


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on April 04, 2018, 10:23:39 pm
News Director: Why I left Fox News

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/why-i-left-fox-news/2018/03/30/d1224648-32bb-11e8-8bdd-cdb33a5eef83_story.html



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: TeeDub on April 05, 2018, 01:14:17 am
News Director: Why I left Fox News

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/why-i-left-fox-news/2018/03/30/d1224648-32bb-11e8-8bdd-cdb33a5eef83_story.html



Cliff notes, I became a disgruntled employee...   I was fired.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: rebound on April 05, 2018, 09:34:59 am
Cliff notes, I became a disgruntled employee...   I was fired.

That's a bit too short.  The explanation is in why he became disgruntled. 

That's kind of the same argument we are hearing from the anti-teacher crowd, including some Legislators, "they signed on to teach, they should just teach".  Which ignores the long-term change in the environment and structure into which they signed on.   


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on April 05, 2018, 11:24:20 am
Pruitt goes to FOX for his exit interview

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/the-energy-202/2018/04/05/the-energy-202-fox-news-disrupts-scott-pruitt-s-otherwise-friendly-conservative-media-tour/5ac5360630fb043deaded748


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 09, 2018, 09:06:33 am
How refreshing, the same response you give for pretty much anything that may disparage Trump.

What's truly sad, is you can't seem to grasp that the person you are trying to describe above is not me.


No.  It isn't you.  You are just a supporter, advocate and condone of all those activities.




Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on April 09, 2018, 09:20:55 am
This was pretty amusing.  Watching Kurtz twist himself all up "Take that down!"....LOL.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/take-watch-fox-host-howard-kurtz-panic-graphic-shows-fox-news-least-trusted-network/


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: TeeDub on April 09, 2018, 09:42:12 am

Take into account that this it the same polling group that predicted a Hillary landslide.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on April 09, 2018, 10:05:00 am
Take into account that this it the same polling group that predicted a Hillary landslide.

She still won the popular vote by 3 million.

Unless you also believe the hooey coming from Cheeto Jesus...


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: swake on April 09, 2018, 12:41:57 pm
Take into account that this it the same polling group that predicted a Hillary landslide.

Monmouth's final poll had Clinton +6%, she won by +2.1%, the margin of error was +/-3.6%, so the Monmouth presidential poll was off by .3%.

One third of one percent.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on May 24, 2018, 05:50:55 pm

Fox News reporter calls out Pruitt for lying to his network — and gets yelled at by angry Trump supporters
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/fox-news-reporter-calls-pruitt-lying-network-gets-yelled-angry-trump-supporters/






Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on May 31, 2018, 10:03:33 am
On Fox News, of all places, Trump’s ‘spy’ claim is debunked by Trey Gowdy and even Judge Napolitano

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/05/30/on-fox-news-rep-trey-gowdy-and-andrew-napolitano-dismantle-trumps-spygate-theories/


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on June 07, 2018, 02:44:25 pm

https://twitter.com/FoxNewsResearch/status/1004467969873924096


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on July 06, 2018, 10:59:09 am
Why EPA’s Scott Pruitt had to go

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/05/john-fund-why-epa-s-scott-pruitt-had-to-go-and-what-to-expect-from-epa-now.html


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Conan71 on July 06, 2018, 06:48:03 pm
Why EPA’s Scott Pruitt had to go

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/05/john-fund-why-epa-s-scott-pruitt-had-to-go-and-what-to-expect-from-epa-now.html


But what happens to the used Trump Hotel mattress now?


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: joiei on July 06, 2018, 07:24:24 pm
But what happens to the used Trump Hotel mattress now?

Who's paying for his plane ticket home?  Or is he taking the bus?


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on July 06, 2018, 07:58:42 pm
Who's paying for his plane ticket home?  Or is he taking the bus?

In a perfect world he'd stay the hell away from here.  Maybe Trump could put him to work at Mar-A-Lago.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on July 17, 2018, 08:34:03 am

For a sitting U.S. president to say publicly that he believes a foreign leader over his own intelligence team is shocking and admonishable. At a time when our democracy faces grave threats, it is deeply troubling that the president would side with the very country who attacked us.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/16/putin-eats-trumps-lunch-in-helsinki-this-is-no-way-to-win-against-russia.html


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on July 17, 2018, 08:45:56 am
For a sitting U.S. president to say publicly that he believes a foreign leader over his own intelligence team is shocking and admonishable. At a time when our democracy faces grave threats, it is deeply troubling that the president would side with the very country who attacked us.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/16/putin-eats-trumps-lunch-in-helsinki-this-is-no-way-to-win-against-russia.html



It's called Aid and Comfort to the enemy.



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: erfalf on July 17, 2018, 12:06:17 pm
Hey guys, this ain't the 1970's anymore. Get with the times...


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on July 17, 2018, 01:52:31 pm
Hey guys, this ain't the 1970's anymore. Get with the times...



Yeah...just like then...if the President does it, it isn't a crime.  Or Trump's corollary - if the President does it, it isn't Treason....

But really...it is.



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on July 25, 2018, 10:25:06 pm
Faux News shows some spine when Trump bars CNN reporter:



CNN correspondent blocked from White House press event

Fox News President Jay Wallace said the network stood with CNN.

“We stand in strong solidarity with CNN for the right to full access for our journalists as part of a free and unfettered press," Wallace said.
“As a member of the White House press pool, Fox stands firmly with CNN on this issue of access,” Fox News chief political anchor Bret Baier said on "Special Report" on Wednesday night.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/25/cnn-correspondent-blocked-from-white-house-press-event.html




Shep Smith Warns Fox News Viewers: Journalists Are Not Your Enemy
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/shep-smith-fox-news-critics_us_5b5a5a6be4b0de86f4952c62


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on August 19, 2018, 09:35:48 pm
A retired U.S. Army Lietenant Colonel and former Fox News analyst said employees at the cable news network have become "prostitutes" for President Donald Trump's Washington agenda.
“There’s no other way to explain his behavior. And he perfectly fits the profile of the kind of people the Russians target."

https://www.newsweek.com/ralph-peters-fox-news-prostitutes-donald-trump-army-lieutenant-brian-stelter-1079841


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on August 26, 2018, 10:29:34 pm

'You're right to be frustrated, but you are part of what's frustrating': Fox News host Neil Cavuto delivers stern rebuke to Trump after wild week
https://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/You-re-right-to-be-frustrated-but-you-are-part-13179414.php


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on August 27, 2018, 11:36:43 am
'You're right to be frustrated, but you are part of what's frustrating': Fox News host Neil Cavuto delivers stern rebuke to Trump after wild week
https://www.sfgate.com/technology/businessinsider/article/You-re-right-to-be-frustrated-but-you-are-part-13179414.php


It's just Fox/Trump foreplay.  

No amount of felonies will ever turn a Trump Minion from their appointed rounds of spreading lies, hate, and comfort to the enemy - Russia. 



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on September 11, 2018, 10:04:24 am
No amount of felonies will ever turn a Trump Minion from their appointed rounds of spreading lies, hate, and comfort to the enemy - Russia. 


Even Fox News Shoots Down Donald Trump’s Economy Boast
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-shoots-down-trump-economy-boast_us_5b971f63e4b0511db3e55dc6


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Townsend on September 11, 2018, 10:28:40 am

Even Fox News Shoots Down Donald Trump’s Economy Boast
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-shoots-down-trump-economy-boast_us_5b971f63e4b0511db3e55dc6

Quote
Hassett talked to reporters at a press briefing about Trump’s positive effect on the economy.

Trump inherited a healthy economy, and most indicators remain on the same uphill incline that began under Obama — who inherited an economy in crisis from a Republican administration.

The U.S. is in its 10th year of economic growth, with 95 straight months of job creation. Trump has been in office less than 20 months.

But it only matters what Trump can get his followers to believe.  Not what is true.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 11, 2018, 03:20:19 pm
Gonna just put this here.  And sprinkle it around a little...

Anyone who has paid any attention at all (non-Minions) has seen me use the phrase "The Script" for Fake Fox News.  Here it is in all it's glory!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MmB7_e7ftY



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: Hoss on September 11, 2018, 03:51:36 pm
Gonna just put this here.  And sprinkle it around a little...

Anyone who has paid any attention at all (non-Minions) has seen me use the phrase "The Script" for Fake Fox News.  Here it is in all it's glory!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MmB7_e7ftY



While Fox News can be a bit like this, this isn't Fox News.  These are all Sinclair owned stations. KTUL is one of them, as well as the Fox affiliate in OKC.


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on September 11, 2018, 08:40:32 pm
While Fox News can be a bit like this, this isn't Fox News.  These are all Sinclair owned stations. KTUL is one of them, as well as the Fox affiliate in OKC.


That's why there is only NPR and PBS left...


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on September 27, 2018, 06:20:14 pm
https://deadline.com/2018/09/fox-news-contributor-calls-brett-kavanaugh-accusers-lying-skanks-1202472531/


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on October 03, 2018, 11:36:40 am
"Fox & Friends" host Brian Kilmeade on Wednesday criticized President Trump for mocking Christine Blasey Ford, who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault.

“The tactic of the president laying low has been lauded by all sides. Last night he chose to blow it," Kilmeade said on "Fox & Friends," adding that the FBI could be concluding its investigation into Kavanaugh as soon as Wednesday.

https://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/409619-fox-friends-host-rips-trump-for-mocking-kavanaugh-accuser


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on October 20, 2018, 02:25:03 pm
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/saudis-offer-pathetic-explanation-of-khashoggi-death-to-preserve-ties-to-us-and-clear-crown-prince


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 21, 2018, 06:05:40 pm
"That man is Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman."

Initials MBS... Mr. Bone Saw.



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on October 29, 2018, 07:58:44 pm
'There is nothing at all to worry about': Fox News host Shep Smith says the migrant caravan hysteria is actually about the midterm election.

The Trump administration, late-night opinion hosts on Fox News, and Fox News guests have been giving a daily drumbeat of stark warnings about the caravan, often with unfounded claims. On Monday, for example, a Fox News guest said — without evidence — that people traveling on the caravan may have leprosy.


https://www.thisisinsider.com/shep-smith-fox-news-caravan-midterm-election-2018-10



Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 29, 2018, 08:34:35 pm
'There is nothing at all to worry about': Fox News host Shep Smith says the migrant caravan hysteria is actually about the midterm election.

The Trump administration, late-night opinion hosts on Fox News, and Fox News guests have been giving a daily drumbeat of stark warnings about the caravan, often with unfounded claims. On Monday, for example, a Fox News guest said — without evidence — that people traveling on the caravan may have leprosy.


https://www.thisisinsider.com/shep-smith-fox-news-caravan-midterm-election-2018-10




This is NOT a "migrant caravan"...these are asylum seekers trying to escape a conflict that the US started in their home countries.

And they are doing it by following our laws exactly the way they are written. As were the people last May - you remember them...the ones whose children were taken, put in cages, beaten, "Trumped" (sexually molested and assaulted).

One of whom was held until it became sick enough for them to let that baby go - THEN it died.!!




Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: patric on November 18, 2018, 01:42:33 pm

Fox News host Chris Wallace tells Trump world sees him as ‘beacon for repression’
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/18/trump-fox-news-interview/2047428002/
 


Title: Re: Too Crazy for FOX
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on November 18, 2018, 05:56:41 pm
Fox News host Chris Wallace tells Trump world sees him as ‘beacon for repression’
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/18/trump-fox-news-interview/2047428002/
 


Would be comical if not so serious - when did Chris Wallace suddenly grow a brain?  Or pull his head out of the 'brown zone'??