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Title: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Ibanez on October 19, 2016, 12:14:00 pm
A co worker just mentioned he heard where Baker St. Pub shut down suddenly. Anyone here heard anything or know what happened?


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Hoss on October 19, 2016, 12:31:32 pm
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Nearby businesses confirmed Baker Street Pub near 71st and Memorial closed its doors for good.  The chain's website removed the Tulsa location from their listings as well.

Ashli Lincoln learned Houston-based Hospitality USA owned the restaurant. They told Lincoln the restaurant closed due to underperforming sales. They issued a statement on the closure Tuesday:

"The declining sales were due to a number of economic factors that directly affected Baker Street's ability to remain viable in the current economy. All employees have or will be paid pursuant to Oklahoma law. We have enjoyed being part of the community the last 6 years and hope to return to the Tulsa market when economic conditions improve."
Crews began packing up the restaurant Tuesday.

FOX23 also reached out to the Oklahoma Tax Commissioner's office, who confirmed the restaurant was in good standing with the state.

Taken from the FOX23 article.


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on October 19, 2016, 01:08:56 pm
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The declining sales were due to a number of economic factors that directly affected Baker Street's ability to remain viable in the current economy.

In other words, the newness wore of, the food was average and over priced, and people quit going there.


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Ibanez on October 19, 2016, 01:36:38 pm
In other words, the newness wore of, the food was average and over priced, and people quit going there.

Food was average, at best, but I know people that loved the place for some reason or other. I even know a couple from Ft. Smith who come in once a month or more to visit parents and Baker St. was a must for them on Friday nights. It did seem to always be busy at nights on the weekends. I hadn't been in probably three years until about a month ago when I met some old friends from high school there one Saturday evening. The place was jam packed that night. In fact it was so busy that I finally talked them into leaving there and heading downtown for a night of bar hopping instead.

Oh well, it won't be missed by most.


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: davideinstein on October 19, 2016, 03:05:22 pm
In other words, the newness wore of, the food was average and over priced, and people quit going there.

Bad area for retail too. Terrible traffic and over-saturated.


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on October 19, 2016, 04:58:24 pm
Bad area for retail too. Terrible traffic and over-saturated.

That center and the one that was where Walmart is now, just never filled up. Shogun and Sun & Ski I think are the oldest ones in that center. Mervyn's lasted longer than Bealls, but even when they built it in the 80's I don't think it ever had full occupancy.

On a side note, was it Petty's that opened a store at Eton Square when it originally opened? That's another one that TGIFriday's and the theater are the only original tenants.


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: LeGenDz on October 19, 2016, 05:18:51 pm
That's another one that TGIFriday's and the theater are the only original tenants.

TGIFriday's has been closed for a while now.


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on October 19, 2016, 05:27:28 pm
TGIFriday's has been closed for a while now.

Hmmm, Google Maps must be wrong, they show June of 2016 and it's there, wouldn't be the first time they're wrong. My mistake.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0762055,-95.886495,3a,73.7y,102.47h,93.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s39rDtbQ0M5hTsqMFhVDoWg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0762055,-95.886495,3a,73.7y,102.47h,93.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s39rDtbQ0M5hTsqMFhVDoWg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Bamboo World on October 19, 2016, 05:30:32 pm


Bad area for retail too. Terrible traffic and over-saturated.


I heard that the road construction this year on both 61st and Memorial contributed to the demise of both Baker Street and TGI Friday's.  I don't live near the area, and I avoid it whenever possible, especially around 61st & Memorial.



Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Bamboo World on October 19, 2016, 05:35:09 pm


Hmmm, Google Maps must be wrong, they show June of 2016 and it's there, wouldn't be the first time they're wrong. My mistake.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0762055,-95.886495,3a,73.7y,102.47h,93.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s39rDtbQ0M5hTsqMFhVDoWg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0762055,-95.886495,3a,73.7y,102.47h,93.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s39rDtbQ0M5hTsqMFhVDoWg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en)


TGI Fridays closed in July, as I recall.



Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Hoss on October 19, 2016, 05:52:23 pm
I heard that the road construction this year on both 61st and Memorial contributed to the demise of both Baker Street and TGI Friday's.  I don't live near the area, and I avoid it whenever possible, especially around 61st & Memorial.



That TGIF quite frankly sucked and it was on a downward spiral well before the construction got underway.  It may have sped it along but it wasn't far from doom anyway...many of the businesses over there didn't fare well (save for Jason's I guess).


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Townsend on October 20, 2016, 11:16:05 am
The area is unattractive.  Surface parking to rival downtown.

Plant a damned tree.  Make it less depressing.


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Vision 2025 on October 25, 2016, 08:54:51 am
In other words, the newness wore of, the food was average and over priced, and people quit going there.
I hate it when that happens.


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: BKDotCom on October 25, 2016, 09:25:34 am
Memorial is trying hard to dethrone Garnett and Mingo as the ugliest/worst streets in the US.

http://www.planetizen.com/node/15


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on October 25, 2016, 10:10:18 am
I heard that the road construction this year on both 61st and Memorial contributed to the demise of both Baker Street and TGI Friday's.  I don't live near the area, and I avoid it whenever possible, especially around 61st & Memorial.



If that's the case, how did Hooter's, Shogun, the Mongolian BBQ and others stay in business while TGIF and Baker St. tanked? I always thought the worst stretch in that area for restaurants was 71st from Memorial to just east of the mall.

For that fact, how has Fuji survived for what, 30 years now?


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 25, 2016, 11:04:25 am
That TGIF quite frankly sucked and it was on a downward spiral well before the construction got underway.  It may have sped it along but it wasn't far from doom anyway...many of the businesses over there didn't fare well (save for Jason's I guess).


When I would go to TGIF, it was that one, but haven't been there in probably 15 years.  It is sometimes astounding to me how bad a restaurant experience people will put up with for so long....


But then, ya gotta look at our state government experience and see how long people will put up with so bad and maybe it all makes sense...!


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Townsend on October 25, 2016, 11:16:09 am
Memorial is trying hard to dethrone Garnett and Mingo as the ugliest/worst streets in the US.

http://www.planetizen.com/node/15


Tulsa - always a spank-ee.  Note the article has to tell people which state.

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Mingo Ave in Tulsa (Oklahoma)

"Actually, most of the major arterials in Tulsa are absolutely horrific and would be excellent contenders."


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 25, 2016, 01:58:31 pm
Yeah, but we gots ours taxes cutses....



Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Conan71 on October 25, 2016, 03:17:58 pm

For that fact, how has Fuji survived for what, 30 years now?

And yet, they have failed twice on Peoria now.  Their Zan-Mai or Zanmai concept was one of the best locations in town for a meal or drink although it was somewhat removed from the walkable texture of Cherry Street proper.  I suppose the same could be said for their Fuji Brookside location being south of 36th where it doesn’t seem quite as pedestrian-friendly. 


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: Red Arrow on October 25, 2016, 06:34:39 pm
Tulsa - always a spank-ee.  Note the article has to tell people which state.

Well, at least they didn't also specify "USA".


Title: Re: Baker St. Pub
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on October 25, 2016, 07:36:35 pm
And yet, they have failed twice on Peoria now.  Their Zan-Mai or Zanmai concept was one of the best locations in town for a meal or drink although it was somewhat removed from the walkable texture of Cherry Street proper.  I suppose the same could be said for their Fuji Brookside location being south of 36th where it doesn’t seem quite as pedestrian-friendly.  

Had to look Zanmai up, now I remember reading about it here and the hopes everyone had for it. I agree that it's Cherry Street area but not Cherry Street and that could have had some effect on it. Also the article from the World says that Fuji was in Brookside for 10 years so I wouldn't necissarliy call it a fail, but 10 years in Tulsa to me is actually a success for a non regional/national place. It does seem that Nobu Terauchi has been pretty good with his attempts at expansion and while they did not succeed, they didn't end the original either.

One thing I have noticed where I have lived is that restaurants near malls like Woodland Hills have short life spans in general. I also don't buy the construction on Memorial caused them to close. When they were building the light rail down Central Ave in Phoenix it was torn up for the better part of two years, and while some business closed because of the construction, it later came to light that they were teetering on closing anyway for other reasons.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/restaurants/table-talk-zanmai-modern-japanese-cuisine-closes/article_c9a92bd4-a41d-5d80-ace8-4741485b2f1a.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/restaurants/table-talk-zanmai-modern-japanese-cuisine-closes/article_c9a92bd4-a41d-5d80-ace8-4741485b2f1a.html)