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Title: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on August 03, 2016, 08:50:31 am
Hello,

I've always lurked this board for great info and it has never failed me. First time to post, so I apologize if the info I am seeking is posted elsewhere and I am missing it for some reason.


Curious about two developments in Jenks:

--The new shopping center on the same corner as the new WalMart Neighborhood Market. Any ideas what all will be there?
--They just broke ground on the southeast corner of 121/Elm in Jenks, as well. No signage yet as to what is coming there.

Thanks.
mb918


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on August 03, 2016, 08:53:56 am
Not sure what's going in at 111th and Elm, it's a strip center with a couple of restaurants but I don't know any specifics.

121st and Elm is a Casey's General Store.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on August 03, 2016, 08:58:59 am
Thanks!

Casey's. That's random. Can't say I even knew they were still around.

That'll be an eye sore. Would've liked a QT or something nicer.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Ibanez on August 03, 2016, 09:26:21 am
Not sure what's going in at 111th and Elm, it's a strip center with a couple of restaurants but I don't know any specifics.

121st and Elm is a Casey's General Store.

Interesting. Been wondering why their commercials have popped up on the local television stations lately. I wonder if they are building others around here. I have only stopped at one twice, once in Missouri and once in Illinois and I wasn't impressed.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on August 03, 2016, 09:42:58 am
Yeah, Casey's is pretty disappointing. Every one I have ever been to has been crappy, 7-11 crappy, if not worse. Maybe they won't last long, I have no idea why they think they can compete in the Tulsa market. There are two QTs and two Kum and Go stores already within two miles of this location.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on August 03, 2016, 09:45:44 am
And from looking more at their website it looks like they pride themselves on their 'menu', specifically their pizza options.

Unfortunately for them, Gaetano's is right next door and has incredible pizza. And Simple Simon's is just down 121st.

This doesn't make a lot of sense.



Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on August 03, 2016, 10:01:17 am
And from looking more at their website it looks like they pride themselves on their 'menu', specifically their pizza options.

Unfortunately for them, Gaetano's is right next door and has incredible pizza. And Simple Simon's is just down 121st.

This doesn't make a lot of sense.



There's one in Skiatook that I was at just last weekend. It's just your normal ugly small town convenience store. Despite being new, it isn't clean and is already starting to look run down.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Ibanez on August 03, 2016, 10:15:03 am
There's one in Skiatook that I was at just last weekend. It's just your normal ugly small town convenience store. Despite being new, it isn't clean and is already starting to look run down.

Sounds like the one I stopped at in Missouri. It even still had the "now open" banner up. I stopped for gas, went in and thought I had walked into a U-Tote-M near the end days of that brand. I ended up walking out without buying anything. Just let the tank finish filling up and left. Stopped down the road a bit and got a drink somewhere else.


Title: QT
Post by: erfalf on August 03, 2016, 10:32:47 am
One opened near me in Bartlesville. It's directly across the street from a super small Conoco that was generally 15 cents higher than QT. That came to an end as soon as Casey's opened. They are usually at or below QT. The store here is clean and nice. Prices on everything are good. Pizza is phenomenal. Breakfast sandwiches are much better than QT. Can't really speak to the rest personally, but I hear good things. My only gripe, is the cashiers are the slowest known to man. Rarely is there not a line in there, whereas at QT I rarely have to wait. This one in particular is in a pretty good neighborhood and it's 2 miles from the closest QT. In Bartlesville it is easily second place to QT ahead of all the others.

The reason for the commercials is because they are expanding their footprint further into Northeastern Oklahoma.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Vision 2025 on August 03, 2016, 12:45:09 pm
There is a new model Casey's down the road from a project I have going in the KC area and I've got to say it's not terrible and is really pretty good, much different than the old ones...I live around the corner and am glad to see it going in.

As for 111th, only one lot under contract as yet.  It's a quality local driven development in coordination with the subdivision behind it.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on August 03, 2016, 02:43:23 pm
Casey's and OnCue both starting to make moves in the area.  OnCue won't come to Tulsa anytime soon, but they are being very aggressive in the middle of the state.

Casey's due north to the KC, MO, IA corridor have been pretty good for a while.  I would go that way in mid 2000's and there were a couple between here and Wisconsin that were good places to stop for a while.


One on the way to Broken Arrow, too.





Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: RecycleMichael on August 03, 2016, 03:12:02 pm
Hello,

I've always lurked this board for great info and it has never failed me. First time to post, so I apologize if the info I am seeking is posted elsewhere and I am missing it for some reason.

Welcome to the forum.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on August 03, 2016, 03:17:02 pm
Casey's and OnCue both starting to make moves in the area.  OnCue won't come to Tulsa anytime soon, but they are being very aggressive in the middle of the state.

Casey's due north to the KC, MO, IA corridor have been pretty good for a while.  I would go that way in mid 2000's and there were a couple between here and Wisconsin that were good places to stop for a while.


One on the way to Broken Arrow, too.





I stop at the OnCue in Cleveland by the lake several times each summer, it's not great either, it's about the same as an older Kum and Go.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on August 03, 2016, 04:08:40 pm
I stop at the OnCue in Cleveland by the lake several times each summer, it's not great either, it's about the same as an older Kum and Go.


Yeah... Cleveland sucks.  Very old store.  Have only driven by once and didn't even bother.  But didn't really want anything either....



Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on September 15, 2016, 12:12:54 pm
So is the outlet happening north of the creek by the aquarium or south? If it is south, what are they breaking ground on by the aquarium?


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on September 15, 2016, 12:20:31 pm
So is the outlet happening north of the creek by the aquarium or south? If it is south, what are they breaking ground on by the aquarium?

The mall is going in on the south side. The current construction on both sides of the highway is relocating the Elm/Peoria exit and adding service roads on each side of the highway. The service roads will provide access to the mall.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Conan71 on September 15, 2016, 05:34:50 pm
The mall is going in on the south side. The current construction on both sides of the highway is relocating the Elm/Peoria exit and adding service roads on each side of the highway. The service roads will provide access to the mall.


So the fresh dirt turning to the north of Aquarium Drive is for the Turnpike project?  I noticed that a week or two back and guessed it was going to be more apartments or retail.

If Simon were really planning on having that open fall of 2017, they should have broken ground already.  Has there been any more word out of Simon on an updated open date?


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on September 15, 2016, 06:31:07 pm
So the fresh dirt turning to the north of Aquarium Drive is for the Turnpike project?  I noticed that a week or two back and guessed it was going to be more apartments or retail.

If Simon were really planning on having that open fall of 2017, they should have broken ground already.  Has there been any more word out of Simon on an updated open date?

I don't think there's anyway for them to start construction until there are roads to the site. There's no access right now.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Red Arrow on September 15, 2016, 06:36:45 pm
I don't think there's anyway for them to start construction until there are roads to the site. There's no access right now.

With all the "off-road" pick-up trucks in this part of the country, that should not be a problem.



Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on December 12, 2016, 02:16:07 pm
Now some ground is really being broken by that WalMart Neighborhood Market.

Other than the BOK sign I still haven't seen anything mentioning what else is coming in.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Vision 2025 on December 14, 2016, 03:28:33 pm
Now some ground is really being broken by that WalMart Neighborhood Market.

Other than the BOK sign I still haven't seen anything mentioning what else is coming in.
Just utility work at this point.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on May 02, 2017, 12:49:05 pm
What's the timeline on the outlet mall breaking ground?


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on May 02, 2017, 01:04:51 pm
What's the timeline on the outlet mall breaking ground?

From what I hear Simon won't call the city of Jenks back.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on May 02, 2017, 01:18:14 pm
Oh man, that could be bad.

All that reworking of the roads for nothing.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on May 02, 2017, 01:27:37 pm
Oh man, that could be bad.

All that reworking of the roads for nothing.

It wasn't just for the mall, and the reworking was planned before Simon came along. Traffic on Elm at the Creek was terrible and they still want to develop the land to the south of The Creek.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on May 02, 2017, 01:34:26 pm
Yeah, I hear ya. But it had to be a part of it.



Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: johrasephoenix on May 02, 2017, 02:28:02 pm
Yeah, large shopping center construction is on hold across the country. 

Maybe retailers will opt instead for all that cheap unused existing space at 41st & Yale.  Big box apocalypse. 


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: BKDotCom on May 02, 2017, 03:01:58 pm
Yeah, large shopping center construction is on hold across the country. 

Maybe retailers will opt instead for all that cheap unused existing space at 41st & Yale.  Big box apocalypse. 

The word is Bigboxalypse


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Conan71 on May 03, 2017, 09:12:51 am
From what I hear Simon won't call the city of Jenks back.

My son-in-law is in construction/development.  Due to a couple of his own projects heís pretty tight with one of the councilors who says Simon is in regular touch and it will be moving forward ďat some point".  Apparently, itís stalled at the moment while they are trying to figure out how much money or if Jenks will put any money toward moving a natural gas pipeline.  Funny, as this was a similar issue with a pipeline on Turkey Mountain.  Simonís M.O. is definitely to see how much they can stick it to communities to maximize their own profit er, um minimize how much they have to invest in infrastructure.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on May 03, 2017, 10:45:11 am
My son-in-law is in construction/development.  Due to a couple of his own projects heís pretty tight with one of the councilors who says Simon is in regular touch and it will be moving forward ďat some point".  Apparently, itís stalled at the moment while they are trying to figure out how much money or if Jenks will put any money toward moving a natural gas pipeline.  Funny, as this was a similar issue with a pipeline on Turkey Mountain.  Simonís M.O. is definitely to see how much they can stick it to communities to maximize their own profit er, um minimize how much they have to invest in infrastructure.


I have a friend on the planning commission that said he heard they went silent, but I also know there was a lot of disagreement over what Simon was doing in the last city election. There are some pissed off factions on the city council over all this.

There is a big pipeline on the site. I think it feeds the power plant.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: bacjz00 on May 10, 2017, 09:12:39 am
I have a friend on the planning commission that said he heard they went silent, but I also know there was a lot of disagreement over what Simon was doing in the last city election. There are some pissed off factions on the city council over all this.

There is a big pipeline on the site. I think it feeds the power plant.

Yeah, Enable Midstream has a 22-mile line that runs through that parcel.  And yes it feeds the power plant (from further south though).


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on October 02, 2017, 03:16:46 pm
Anything new here? The roundabout in the middle of nowhere that takes you to the RiverWalk/Aquarium area is so unnecessary if nothing ever gets built out there.

So dumb.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Red Arrow on October 02, 2017, 04:57:29 pm
Anything new here? The roundabout in the middle of nowhere that takes you to the RiverWalk/Aquarium area is so unnecessary if nothing ever gets built out there.

So dumb.

Looks like both of the roundabouts are waiting for something.

https://goo.gl/maps/cWLPFyn1S9L2



Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: BKDotCom on October 03, 2017, 07:31:18 am
Did I miss something?
What roundabouts are ya'll talking about?


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on October 03, 2017, 09:56:46 am
Did I miss something?
What roundabouts are ya'll talking about?

It's not on Google Maps yet, but there are roundabouts and service roads in Jenks along the turnpike with the new exit at Elm/Peoria with a large cut out for a certain unbuilt outlet mall.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Red Arrow on October 03, 2017, 04:26:08 pm
It's not on Google Maps yet, but there are roundabouts and service roads in Jenks along the turnpike with the new exit at Elm/Peoria with a large cut out for a certain unbuilt outlet mall.
What are the round things in the satellite view near the aquarium and just south of the turnpike?

https://goo.gl/maps/cWLPFyn1S9L2

I posted this link yesterday.



Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: rebound on October 03, 2017, 05:06:14 pm
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What are the round things in the satellite view near the aquarium and just south of the turnpike?

https://goo.gl/maps/cWLPFyn1S9L2

I posted this link yesterday.

I was seriously confused.  For me, this link doesn't show a roundabout.   I even went directly to Google maps and looked without the link.  Still no roundabouts.   Then I checked on Apple Maps on my phone, and finally see a roundabout!  But I still don't see anything South of the turnpike.  The one I see is just to the North.  Is there another one on the South side?  Posting for anyone else that couldn't find it, either.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: swake on October 03, 2017, 05:27:57 pm
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I was seriously confused.  For me, this link doesn't show a roundabout.   I even went directly to Google maps and looked without the link.  Still no roundabouts.   Then I checked on Apple Maps on my phone, and finally see a roundabout!  But I still don't see anything South of the turnpike.  The one I see is just to the North.  Is there another one on the South side?  Posting for anyone else that couldn't find it, either.

I don't see them on Google either.

On the Maps app I see them, there's one on each side of the turnpike. The one on the north side is near the Aquarium and the one on the south side is a bit west by the railroad tracks.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: Red Arrow on October 03, 2017, 06:18:42 pm
I don't see them on Google either.

On the Maps app I see them, there's one on each side of the turnpike. The one on the north side is near the Aquarium and the one on the south side is a bit west by the railroad tracks.

They always show up for me.  They don't show on the map view, only the satellite view.  The link should have taken you directly to the satellite view.

I have no explanation.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: TeeDub on October 04, 2017, 07:25:05 am

I see them.   Your link works just as advertised.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: BKDotCom on October 04, 2017, 07:37:16 am
I see them.   Your link works just as advertised.

Lies!  Screenshot or it didn't happen


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: rebound on October 04, 2017, 08:07:47 am
Lies!  Screenshot or it didn't happen

Still doesn't work for me.   Just used the link again.  I do get satellite view, but neither of the roundabouts show up.   I know I'm seeing an older version of the satellite view, but don't know why.



Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: rebound on October 04, 2017, 08:12:42 am
Still doesn't work for me.   Just used the link again.  I do get satellite view, but neither of the roundabouts show up.   I know I'm seeing an older version of the satellite view, but don't know why.

OK,  I opened the link on my phone, and DO see them.   But not on my laptop.   I use Chrome as my default browser, so you'd think it would get the most current view.  I also checked by opening Edge, and it also shows the old views.  Strange.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: TeeDub on October 04, 2017, 08:27:56 am

I think I know the problem....   If you have the stupid google 3d on, it uses a different photo timeline.   Turn that crap off and not only does (IMO) the picture look better, but you get more updated results.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: mb918 on October 15, 2017, 09:41:56 pm
Cool, all the google image talk helped.


Title: Re: Jenks Construction
Post by: BKDotCom on October 16, 2017, 07:29:58 am
I think I know the problem....   If you have the stupid google 3d on, it uses a different photo timeline.   Turn that crap off and not only does (IMO) the picture look better, but you get more updated results.

Interesting.
Hamburger menu -> 3D on (click this to toggle off).
Even if you're in the 2D view, you'll still be getting different (older) image tiles