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Title: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: dsjeffries on February 23, 2016, 11:12:15 am
The Archer Building, a warehouse owned by BOKF Foundation in the Brady District (the big, white building on Archer, between Cincinnati and Detroit) will soon become home to art studios, apartments, and almost a dozen retailers, including Holy Mountain Records, a second Glacier Confectioners location named Chocolate City, a nonprofit book store, Magic City Books. All profits from book sales will help fund literacy programs in Tulsa through the Tulsa Literary Coalition (TLC). The $30,000,000 project to convert the building will be paid for by the George Kaiser Family Foundation.

Notable TLC advisory board members include David Sedaris, Ann Patchett, Jonathan Franzen, Salman Rushdie, Nancy Pearl and Teresa Miller, among others. This is a really cool concept, and it's amazing to have such support from those authors! Can't wait for it to open and breathe life into that corner of the Brady District.

Tulsa Literary Coalition Webpage (http://www.tulsalitco.org) • Magic City Books Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/tulsalitco)

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The building occupies an entire block of Archer St, was built in 1940, and contains more than 72,000 square feet of space.


//edited to include more details and renderings of the project.


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on February 23, 2016, 11:23:56 am
Good news for the Brady!

I saw this on the Tulsa World:

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Bookstore coming to the Brady Arts District

A new non-profit group is set to bring "literary magic" to the Brady Arts District.
Magic City Books will be a project of the newly-formed group Tulsa Literary Coalition. The independent store will be the anchor tenant in a building on Archer Street between Detroit Avenue and Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard in the Brady Arts District.
Renovations on the building are set to begin soon with the bookstore opening later this year or early 2017. The building is owned by the George Kaiser Family Foundation and Chris Lilly Architects is leading the renovations.
Jeff Martin founded the bookstore and Tulsa Literary Coalition. As part of the new group, Martin will bring in his popular BookSmart Tulsa series to bring in more author events to the Tulsa community.
“It’s no surprise that Downtown Tulsa is experiencing a renaissance.” Martin said. “Magic City Books and the ongoing outreach of the Tulsa Literary Coalition will create and foster a new literary tradition in Tulsa, providing a much needed center for the literary arts. We will keep Tulsa reading, thinking, and talking about books and ideas.”
The for-profit bookstore will be part of the funding source for the literary non-profit group.
Cindy Hulsey will serve as executive director of the coalition and general manager of the bookstore. Martin will serve as president and board of directors for the coalition.
The bookstore will also feature a cafe, meeting room, newsstand. The cafe will offer light food, coffee, tea, wine and beer.
The Tulsa Literary Coalition will provide programs beginning this summer and Magic City Books will have pop-up shops at various events and venues before the opening.
For more, go to tulsalitco.org.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/arts/bookstore-coming-to-the-brady-arts-district/article_d825c8aa-d96a-5d66-8076-5ae266bccc5c.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/arts/bookstore-coming-to-the-brady-arts-district/article_d825c8aa-d96a-5d66-8076-5ae266bccc5c.html)

I heard of another development by the GKF between Boulder & Cheyenne, south of Easton. Something about converting the old factories to a mixed use development or maybe building new. Has anyone else heard of this?


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: carltonplace on February 23, 2016, 12:57:06 pm
Good news for the Brady!

I saw this on the Tulsa World:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/arts/bookstore-coming-to-the-brady-arts-district/article_d825c8aa-d96a-5d66-8076-5ae266bccc5c.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/arts/bookstore-coming-to-the-brady-arts-district/article_d825c8aa-d96a-5d66-8076-5ae266bccc5c.html)

I heard of another development by the GKF between Boulder & Cheyenne, south of Easton. Something about converting the old factories to a mixed use development or maybe building new. Has anyone else heard of this?

Those buildings are very cool. That would be great news.


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: Conan71 on February 23, 2016, 02:00:27 pm
I wonder if that will push Tulsa Tough out of their warehouse space.


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 23, 2016, 04:12:28 pm
I like books...


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: sgrizzle on February 23, 2016, 04:21:08 pm
Books? Aren't those like, movies on paper?

Sounds cool though


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 23, 2016, 04:30:15 pm
Books? Aren't those like, movies on paper?

Sounds cool though


Better!!   MUCH better!!



Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: TheArtist on February 23, 2016, 04:35:02 pm
Excellent!  I think downtown could use two bookstores.  https://www.facebook.com/DecopolisBooks/  We will both likely be able to tap into different markets and feature different items.  DECOPOLIS Books will continue to grow its "classics selections" (just ordered another hundred different titles today) and we would also really like to start featuring more unique art books, pop-up books, miniature books, leather-bound editions, any books we can find that you don't normally see at your usual bookstore, and of course our local authors.  Really great news for downtown Tulsa.  


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: sgrizzle on February 23, 2016, 10:50:28 pm

Better!!   MUCH better!!



I checked and not a single one offers 7.1 sound.


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: Conan71 on February 23, 2016, 11:12:45 pm
Based on a story on KOTV tonight, if I heard this correctly, they are saying there is room for up to 10 restaurants or retail spaces on the bottom level.  Glacier Confection will have a 7000’ space for a “base to finished product” store.  There is also room for artist studios and apartments for artists in the Tulsa Artist Fellowship program.  This is a $30 million project, according to the story.

It’s basically a multi-use development wet dream many other cities would love to have.

Kudos again Mr. Kaiser and to the visionaries who operate your foundation.  Tulsa is very fortunate to have a such a generous citizen.

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TULSA, Oklahoma -
At almost 100 years young, another one of Tulsa’s historic buildings will get a new life thanks to a major renovation set to begin next month.

An old warehouse in the heart of the Brady Arts District has sat empty for years. The 72,000 square foot building might not look like much now, but the George Kaiser Family Foundation has big plans for the space.

One of the first tenants announced is a bookstore, but that is just the beginning.

Built in the 1920s, the Archer Building has strong bones, but is in need of a fix-up. The original tin tiles line the walls and the old warehouse doors help tell its story.

But in March, The George Kaiser Family Foundation will start writing the new chapter - a $30 million renovation that will include 35 artist studios and 14 apartments for those involved with the Tulsa Artist Fellowship.

On the bottom floor, up to ten new restaurants and businesses - one of which will be Magic City Books, supported by the Tulsa Literary Coalition.

Board President Jeff Martin gave News On 6 a tour and history lesson on the ‘Magic City’ term; apparently coined by President Teddy Roosevelt after you could get rich from oil here - like magic.

"We wanted to enforce that our magic time is not over, it is right now, and what is in the future," Martin said.

Novels will line the walls and there will be event space for things like book clubs.

Martin said, “It’s hard to imagine 'cause its raw right now, but when it comes together it will be beautiful, and special and super cozy like a favorite book store should be.”

And once you're done reading your books, maybe you'll be in the market for a unique vinyl. Holy Mountain records will be moving from 11th Street into the Brady District.

Owner Jay Hancock called the opportunity to pair with GKFF, mind blowing, and, at first, hard to believe.

"We're just little guys. There is no way this is going to come to fruition," he said.

But it is, and Hancock said not much will change as far as the shop is concerned - except the premiere location in the heart of the Brady Arts District.

Glacier Chocolates will also be opening a second location called the City of Chocolate. It will have everything from the bean to the final product and around 7000 square feet of an educational component.

http://www.newson6.com/story/31298720/kaiser-foundation-plans-30m-renovation-for-brady-district-building


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: hello on February 24, 2016, 07:38:31 am
This is a dream come true! Plus, Holy Mountain (Tulsa's best record store, imo) is moving from 11th street into the building as well. Give me a Reasor's in Downtown and I'll be able to walk to everything I need.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: swake on February 24, 2016, 08:51:22 am
This really sounds great.


Title: Re: Magic City Books
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 24, 2016, 09:01:58 am
I checked and not a single one offers 7.1 sound.


Even better!!   Goes to something called "imagination"....that thing that lets you paint a picture, create a symphony, build a world inside your own head without someone else 'interpreting' and putting their overlay onto your version of the experience!



Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: ZYX on February 24, 2016, 10:32:17 am
This looks great! We are incredibly fortunate to have the generosity of the GKFF. Tulsa would be a much different place without Kaiser.

This will push the Brady much farther along into feeling like a solid, complete neighborhood. I am very excited to see construction begin!


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TheArtist on February 24, 2016, 11:22:54 am
   On the one hand, I know this will be good for downtown.  On the other, I am really afraid of what it will do to my business and perhaps even the other businesses in our part of downtown.  Most of us over here are small fry working really really REALLY hard with what we got to make a go of it.  We have dreams and hopes of creating something wonderful ourselves.

Then you see this.  Someone with big pockets who can go in and make their own ideas happen and leave the rest of us possibly faltering and our years of hard work and dreams dashed.  

I look at First Fridays and see how my sales go dramatically down on that day compared to Fridays when that is not going on.

I think of some of our regular customers that we love to see.  I think in particular of the one gentleman and his little girl who come in every so often because she says she loves our store and likes going to Mods and the little Candy Castle across the street.  Then I imagine "Whats she going to choose when this big bookstore goes in with a giant chocolate shop next door?"  

Where are our local authors going to go now for their book signings?  To my store or this other one? Those books signings help us create a little buzz for our store.  


I have always known it would be a race against time.  That I would have to work really hard to grow and expand and better the business before the bigger competition and money would come into play downtown so that I could have a chance at competing.  

I have worked so hard to be a part of something, to try and use my talents to make Tulsa better.  

Perhaps I am just too small a person to make a difference, to compete and hopefully have my dreams come true.  

I can pivot and find a niche.... but then you always run the chance that, no matter how hard you work no matter how talented you are, no matter how hard you push, work day and night and weekends,  someone else with deeper pockets will waltz in and kick you off to the side.  It's tough out here.  

3 years and I haven't made a time off the business, have still had to work my day jobs to make ends meet.  This year was the year that I could have done that but then with the big move to a larger more expensive space the "schedule" for me to start making a little was going to have to wait a little more.  But the dream is worth it. Someday it will be great and we will make it.  But now with this going in... gonna be even harder.  I don't know yet what my next pivot is going to be exactly.  And even if I do, will someone else just come in again before I can take off with that dream and pull the rug out from under all that work.    

If anything I kind of wish we could have worked together on this and we could have been a part of whats going on there.  Surely they know of us and our efforts and realize what it will do to us.  I have always reached out and invited the "book community" to be a part of what we are trying to do for instance.  Us helping them helps us kind of thing.   And then out of the blue.  Yea it will be better for them, but not likely for us.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on February 24, 2016, 11:34:02 am
   On the one hand, I know this will be good for downtown.  On the other, I am really afraid of what it will do to my business and perhaps even the other businesses in our part of downtown.  Most of us over here are small fry working really really REALLY hard with what we got to make a go of it.  We have dreams and hopes of creating something wonderful ourselves.

Then you see this.  Someone with big pockets who can go in and make their own ideas happen and leave the rest of us possibly faltering and our years of hard work and dreams dashed. 

I look at First Fridays and see how my sales go dramatically down on that day compared to Fridays when that is not going on.

I think of some of our regular customers that we love to see.  I think in particular of the one gentleman and his little girl who come in every so often because she says she loves our store and likes going to Mods and the little Candy Castle across the street.  Then I imagine "Whats she going to choose when this big bookstore goes in with a giant chocolate shop next door?" 

Where are our local authors going to go now for their book signings?  To my store or this other one? Those books signings help us create a little buzz for our store. 


I have always known it would be a race against time.  That I would have to work really hard to grow and expand and better the business before the bigger competition and money would come into play downtown so that I could have a chance at competing. 

I have worked so hard to be a part of something, to try and use my talents to make Tulsa better. 

Perhaps I am just too small a person to make a difference, to compete and hopefully have my dreams come true. 

I can pivot and find a niche.... but then you always run the chance that, no matter how hard you work no matter how talented you are, no matter how hard you push, work day and night and weekends,  someone else with deeper pockets will waltz in and kick you off to the side.  It's tough out here. 



This is where the Deco District needs to come up with regular promotions like First Friday or figure out a way to get people to come through the DD on their way to or from First Friday.  Either that or you need to be doing promotions when you have the highest level of foot traffic, which I suspect is during weekday daytime hours.  You have the advantage of daytime pedestrian activity I don’t see in that part of the Brady.  Without a massive office tower going in a block or two from this new project, their daytime traffic won’t be all that spectacular.

Stick with your original plan of offering art classes and book signings.  Authors are happy to promote their work.  There’s nothing saying a book signing for an author or title has to be exclusive.

It’s been said in the car business for years: “If you own a Ford dealership, pray someone wants to open a Chevy dealership across the street.”

In other words, competition creates critical mass.  In your case, there might be too much walking distance in between for this maxim to apply, but there’s no reason to think this development will torpedo your business. 

You and I have talked about ways you can really prosper with an online presence and there are so many ways you can differentiate yourself from other offerings in the market including this one.  While your concern is appreciated, I believe you will be fine. 


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TheArtist on February 24, 2016, 11:52:46 am
This is where the Deco District needs to come up with regular promotions like First Friday or figure out a way to get people to come through the DD on their way to or from First Friday.  Either that or you need to be doing promotions when you have the highest level of foot traffic, which I suspect is during weekday daytime hours.  You have the advantage of daytime pedestrian activity I don’t see in that part of the Brady.  Without a massive office tower going in a block or two from this new project, their daytime traffic won’t be all that spectacular.

Stick with your original plan of offering art classes and book signings.  Authors are happy to promote their work.  There’s nothing saying a book signing for an author or title has to be exclusive.

It’s been said in the car business for years: “If you own a Ford dealership, pray someone wants to open a Chevy dealership across the street.”

In other words, competition creates critical mass.  In your case, there might be too much walking distance in between for this maxim to apply, but there’s no reason to think this development will torpedo your business. 

You and I have talked about ways you can really prosper with an online presence and there are so many ways you can differentiate yourself from other offerings in the market including this one.  While your concern is appreciated, I believe you will be fine. 

Thank you so much for the positive support and suggestions!  We will keep on trucking.

Btw was on Channel 8 this morning promoting an event we will be having this Saturday for the kiddos.

http://ktul.com/good-day-tulsa/videos/miss-tjs-music-storytime-02-24-2016


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 24, 2016, 12:05:34 pm

I have always known it would be a race against time.  That I would have to work really hard to grow and expand and better the business before the bigger competition and money would come into play downtown so that I could have a chance at competing.  

I have worked so hard to be a part of something, to try and use my talents to make Tulsa better.  

Perhaps I am just too small a person to make a difference, to compete and hopefully have my dreams come true.  

I can pivot and find a niche.... but then you always run the chance that, no matter how hard you work no matter how talented you are, no matter how hard you push, work day and night and weekends,  someone else with deeper pockets will waltz in and kick you off to the side.  It's tough out here.  

3 years and I haven't made a time off the business, have still had to work my day jobs to make ends meet.  This year was the year that I could have done that but then with the big move to a larger more expensive space the "schedule" for me to start making a little was going to have to wait a little more.  But the dream is worth it. Someday it will be great and we will make it.  But now with this going in... gonna be even harder.  I don't know yet what my next pivot is going to be exactly.  And even if I do, will someone else just come in again before I can take off with that dream and pull the rug out from under all that work.    




Try not to despair too much!!  You have made an impact on downtown and made Tulsa a prettier place with your art!  There are a lot of us that try to do that work to make Tulsa better - you just have the 'visible' talent to do that as opposed to even smaller presences like me who only get occasional tiny little impact feedbacks from friends/family.  My greatest visible impact was that I actually talked it up enough so that a couple of cousins moved here years ago and were finally followed by a few others in their family.  It will have to be enough.




At least you aren't in the position of having made an economic contribution to companies in town to the tune of several tens of millions of dollars...and been rewarded with being laid off....   (REAL patents that created real new products and generated real sales for the companies - still !!)





Edit for the above -
Wow!  What a strange day - and the timing amazing to the above - just made a patent disclosure with in-house discussions today.  This will be the third company where I have received commercially successful patents for financially rewarding products, forming a "Triple Crown" event - now, just gotta see how long it is until I get laid off from this one, completing the Triple Crown circle, adding to previous two!!  I'm betting 12 - 14 months....gotta get the paperwork far enough along so it will continue after me.  This will be added to products for at least 3 customers that will add combined sales of over $20 million a year.  I can hardly wait to see how this works out!!






Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on February 24, 2016, 01:19:05 pm
Thank you so much for the positive support and suggestions!  We will keep on trucking.

Btw was on Channel 8 this morning promoting an event we will be having this Saturday for the kiddos.

http://ktul.com/good-day-tulsa/videos/miss-tjs-music-storytime-02-24-2016

And stay after the media.  I’ve found over the last year the media is always looking for positive things to report and they will support local business when they are sought out.



Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: carltonplace on February 24, 2016, 02:44:21 pm
Plus you have a lot of new living coming on line in the Deco district...right now living options are kinda sparse. Residential will put feet on the street.

Libby used to be great at marketing the Deco District but is seems like her attention has been diverted lately.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on February 24, 2016, 04:25:10 pm
  On the one hand, I know this will be good for downtown.  On the other, I am really afraid of what it will do to my business and perhaps even the other businesses in our part of downtown.  Most of us over here are small fry working really really REALLY hard with what we got to make a go of it.  We have dreams and hopes of creating something wonderful ourselves.

Then you see this.  Someone with big pockets who can go in and make their own ideas happen and leave the rest of us possibly faltering and our years of hard work and dreams dashed.  

I look at First Fridays and see how my sales go dramatically down on that day compared to Fridays when that is not going on.

I think of some of our regular customers that we love to see.  I think in particular of the one gentleman and his little girl who come in every so often because she says she loves our store and likes going to Mods and the little Candy Castle across the street.  Then I imagine "Whats she going to choose when this big bookstore goes in with a giant chocolate shop next door?"  

Where are our local authors going to go now for their book signings?  To my store or this other one? Those books signings help us create a little buzz for our store.  


I have always known it would be a race against time.  That I would have to work really hard to grow and expand and better the business before the bigger competition and money would come into play downtown so that I could have a chance at competing.  

I have worked so hard to be a part of something, to try and use my talents to make Tulsa better.  

Perhaps I am just too small a person to make a difference, to compete and hopefully have my dreams come true.  

I can pivot and find a niche.... but then you always run the chance that, no matter how hard you work no matter how talented you are, no matter how hard you push, work day and night and weekends,  someone else with deeper pockets will waltz in and kick you off to the side.  It's tough out here.  

3 years and I haven't made a time off the business, have still had to work my day jobs to make ends meet.  This year was the year that I could have done that but then with the big move to a larger more expensive space the "schedule" for me to start making a little was going to have to wait a little more.  But the dream is worth it. Someday it will be great and we will make it.  But now with this going in... gonna be even harder.  I don't know yet what my next pivot is going to be exactly.  And even if I do, will someone else just come in again before I can take off with that dream and pull the rug out from under all that work.    

If anything I kind of wish we could have worked together on this and we could have been a part of whats going on there.  Surely they know of us and our efforts and realize what it will do to us.  I have always reached out and invited the "book community" to be a part of what we are trying to do for instance.  Us helping them helps us kind of thing.   And then out of the blue.  Yea it will be better for them, but not likely for us.

There should be a year or two delay between when it is ready so you could have time to grow, expand and adjust. It sounds very tough, but I have a lot of respect for what you've done there. Decopolis is mine and my wife's favorite downtown retail shop! I like the expansion and many of the new options. I hope you can turn the balance this year.

I know many people still don't know about Decopolis. I don't know the answer (maybe posting events on a variety of places, twitter, reddit & even Craigslist, etc). Having a booth at events like Cherry St Farmers Market or Blue Dome Arts festival (but probably busy time for you) and maybe a popup shop at First Fridays could help. Still, there is a lack of stuff to shop for at First Fridays. Occasionally a few tables, but not much. I bet the Tulsa-Deco posters could do well there.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 24, 2016, 05:37:02 pm
And stay after the media.  I’ve found over the last year the media is always looking for positive things to report and they will support local business when they are sought out.




Certainly has been working for Trump...  All the free publicity he can stand.  And more!



Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: hello on February 25, 2016, 08:00:45 am
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I know many people still don't know about Decopolis. I don't know the answer (maybe posting events on a variety of places, twitter, reddit & even Craigslist, etc). Having a booth at events like Cherry St Farmers Market or Blue Dome Arts festival (but probably busy time for you) and maybe a popup shop at First Fridays could help. Still, there is a lack of stuff to shop for at First Fridays. Occasionally a few tables, but not much. I bet the Tulsa-Deco posters could do well there.

This is a great idea. There is usually a guy with records out there at Guthrie Green. Maybe see if they will let you set up a booth as well? Perhaps partner with Mainline? That's an art bar that showcases local work.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on February 25, 2016, 07:34:21 pm
I think you all will be just fine in your new location. I've preached it for years now, but the biggest issue in the Deco District are the hours of operations for a lot of the businesses.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: PonderInc on March 01, 2016, 11:21:36 am
While I love everything that's happening in the Brady, it does create an unequal playing field: those that benefit from the synergies and support of GKFF's philanthropy, and those who are going it all alone in the free marketplace.

But I also agree that the Decopolis benefits from being located in the heart of downtown. You're closer to the major employment centers. You're closer to the Convention Center.  You're closer to the Hyatt, Mayo Hotel, Atlas/Courtyard, and Holiday Inn.  Also, the Excalibur building (old Arby's) is being renovated for mixed-use, which can only help add residents, foot traffic and shoppers. 

What the Deco District needs is a greater density of destinations (other than office) and more awareness of the district. Put a canopy of warm, white Christmas lights over the street like they do in Hodges Bend.  String lights between the trees on Boston.  Create a sense of place and remind people that there's something to see and do there.  (I love the music you have playing by your door!)  Hire a HS jazz ensemble to play in front of your building on Friday evenings.

One of the advantages the Brady has is that there are dozens of destinations within a few blocks of each other.  It also benefits from having an intact cluster of human-scaled, mixed-use buildings with traditional storefronts.  While there are many small businesses inside the big office towers in the CBD, it's not apparent from the street, so they don't really create synergies for each other.  The pop-up shops are great, but they need to do more to remind people of their existence. Also, a lot of the restaurants in the CBD remain lunch places, which doesn't generate evening foot traffic like full service restaurant/bars do.

Storefront retail and restaurant spaces help create lively streets. In the center of town, we've demolished a lot of the traditional storefront buildings that could have helped knit the district together and create the necessary synergies and density.  Maybe someday, we'll rebuild them.  In the meantime, it's important that every one of the surviving storefronts in the CBD is utilized... not for parking cars, but for actual retail spaces. 


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on March 01, 2016, 01:46:20 pm
While I love everything that's happening in the Brady, it does create an unequal playing field: those that benefit from the synergies and support of GKFF's philanthropy, and those who are going it all alone in the free marketplace.


GKFF has done something very nice for the community by making entrepreneurship affordable and allowing people who might not otherwise have the means to live their dream.

So far as I know, you don’t have to be a member of an exclusive club to get into one of these GKFF projects.  It’s there for the asking by anyone who is interested and has a qualified idea.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: PonderInc on March 01, 2016, 02:30:16 pm
Another benefit we've received is that GKFF has essentially protected the Brady from being overrun by national chains.  In many cities, the areas around major public investments (ballparks, transit hubs, etc) end up surrounded by national chains.  The 16th Street Mall in Denver is a perfect example of this.  I don't know if it was originally envisioned as the miracle mile of national chains, or if high rents pushed the little guys out.  There's very little there that you couldn't find along an average Interstate service road, which is really sad.  One of the best things about downtown Tulsa (perhaps because there's a lot of land owned by a handful of property owners, or because we're still operating under the radar?) is that, for now, we haven't been inundated by national chains.  It's critical for Tulsa's future that our downtown remain a unique place.  Folks like the Artist are making that a reality--helping downtown be a place unlike anywhere else.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on March 01, 2016, 03:24:50 pm
Another benefit we've received is that GKFF has essentially protected the Brady from being overrun by national chains.  In many cities, the areas around major public investments (ballparks, transit hubs, etc) end up surrounded by national chains.  The 16th Street Mall in Denver is a perfect example of this.  I don't know if it was originally envisioned as the miracle mile of national chains, or if high rents pushed the little guys out.  There's very little there that you couldn't find along an average Interstate service road, which is really sad.  One of the best things about downtown Tulsa (perhaps because there's a lot of land owned by a handful of property owners, or because we're still operating under the radar?) is that, for now, we haven't been inundated by national chains.  It's critical for Tulsa's future that our downtown remain a unique place.  Folks like the Artist are making that a reality--helping downtown be a place unlike anywhere else.

Interesting metric completely missed by me.

Other than franchise hotels and Spaghetti Warehouse, are there any national chains in the Brady?


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 01, 2016, 03:49:42 pm
Another benefit we've received is that GKFF has essentially protected the Brady from being overrun by national chains.  In many cities, the areas around major public investments (ballparks, transit hubs, etc) end up surrounded by national chains.  The 16th Street Mall in Denver is a perfect example of this.  I don't know if it was originally envisioned as the miracle mile of national chains, or if high rents pushed the little guys out.  There's very little there that you couldn't find along an average Interstate service road, which is really sad.  One of the best things about downtown Tulsa (perhaps because there's a lot of land owned by a handful of property owners, or because we're still operating under the radar?) is that, for now, we haven't been inundated by national chains.  It's critical for Tulsa's future that our downtown remain a unique place.  Folks like the Artist are making that a reality--helping downtown be a place unlike anywhere else.

Downtown needs more chains. A good mix would generate more investment. Right now investing in Downtown is still seen as a risk which from what I've seen is far from the truth.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 01, 2016, 03:51:00 pm
Interesting metric completely missed by me.

Other than franchise hotels and Spaghetti Warehouse, are there any national chains in the Brady?

Subway


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 01, 2016, 04:14:48 pm
Interesting metric completely missed by me.

Other than franchise hotels and Spaghetti Warehouse, are there any national chains in the Brady?


Mexicali Border Cafe.   

Does 2 count as a chain, especially since the other is 'national' - Florida....


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on March 01, 2016, 04:18:33 pm
Subway

Hmmm, can’t picture where it is.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TheArtist on March 01, 2016, 06:11:16 pm
Not having lots of chains downtown has given many of us local guys who are inexperienced and starting out on a wing and a prayer, a better chance to start businesses, make some mistakes, learn, adapt, and still possibly make a go of it. 

For a while now its like "What does downtown not have?" and thats your opportunity to go in and do it while there are pockets of decent rent and low competition.

 But always keeping in the back of your mind that sooner or later as things get going, others with deeper pockets and more experience will be wanting in on the game,  so it's a race to keep your business growing and getting better as both rents and competition continue to rise. 

It's sometimes risky and tough being first in, but there are advantages too. 


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 01, 2016, 09:38:22 pm
Hmmm, can’t picture where it is.

Next to Lefty's


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 01, 2016, 09:44:12 pm
Not having lots of chains downtown has given many of us local guys who are inexperienced and starting out on a wing and a prayer, a better chance to start businesses, make some mistakes, learn, adapt, and still possibly make a go of it. 

For a while now its like "What does downtown not have?" and thats your opportunity to go in and do it while there are pockets of decent rent and low competition.

 But always keeping in the back of your mind that sooner or later as things get going, others with deeper pockets and more experience will be wanting in on the game,  so it's a race to keep your business growing and getting better as both rents and competition continue to rise. 

It's sometimes risky and tough being first in, but there are advantages too. 

It's not just decent rent, it's dirt cheap rent comparatively speaking to the rest of the city. Deco District might have the best real estate market in the entire city...and I can't for the life of me figure out why people aren't taking advantage of it.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on March 01, 2016, 09:51:58 pm
It's not just decent rent, it's dirt cheap rent comparatively speaking to the rest of the city. Deco District might have the best real estate market in the entire city...and I can't for the life of me figure out why people aren't taking advantage of it.

Lack of enough mixed use development?

Close proximity to Iron Gate clients?

Get more residential in the immediate area completed and that might change.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 01, 2016, 09:52:24 pm
Deco District for sure needs chains. It's the same effect an anchor store used to have at a retail mall. There is enough real estate to have a mix and chains would add foot traffic to grow the local businesses.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 01, 2016, 09:58:23 pm
Lack of enough mixed use development?

Close proximity to Iron Gate clients?

Get more residential in the immediate area completed and that might change.

There is a lot of foot traffic even after 5pm. We aren't open at 8pm on a Sunday to lose money. The mix use is there more than people realize at this point and the residents have limited options on weekends.

Iron Gate hurts. There is reason all of the abandon buildings are along the areas where they hang out. I'm all for taking care of the poor but I don't think it should be at the expense of economic growth or a neighborhood.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on March 02, 2016, 10:07:11 am
Deco District for sure needs chains. It's the same effect an anchor store used to have at a retail mall. There is enough real estate to have a mix and chains would add foot traffic to grow the local businesses.

Aside from the occasional JJ’s splurge, my wife and I generally avoid chain food places.  And no, I’m not saying that for your benefit, you guys do the best lettuce wrapped bread-less sandwich.  

So are you saying more chain fast food or more chain retailers would benefit the area?

For us, anyhow, we’d be drawn by locally-owned restaurants than chain to make it downtown for a meal.  When I meet a client or friend for lunch in the Deco District for lunch it’s either at La Salle’s or Elote.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: swake on March 02, 2016, 10:34:28 am

Mexicali Border Cafe.   

Does 2 count as a chain, especially since the other is 'national' - Florida....


Mexicali isn't great by any means, but I don't think it's a chain.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: cynical on March 02, 2016, 11:40:23 am
According to their web site, there are two restaurants in their "chain." One in Tulsa, one in Florida. As "national chains" go, that's pretty weak.

Mexicali isn't great by any means, but I don't think it's a chain.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 02, 2016, 02:33:26 pm
It's a stretch to call them a chain - two links ain't much of a chain....  but it is national.  I guess.



Yeah, their food is never great - nowhere near as good as El Sombrero in Broken Arrow - but they have never given us food poisoning, so that's a plus 1.



Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: BKDotCom on March 02, 2016, 02:45:09 pm
According to their web site, there are two restaurants in their "chain." One in Tulsa, one in Florida. As "national chains" go, that's pretty weak.


Unrelated (or is it?)   The new taco joint (Jimmy Hula's) that's replacing Taco Cabana @ 18th n Yale is also in Florida.
Same franchisee?

http://jimmyhulas.com/locations/


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: cynical on March 02, 2016, 03:05:58 pm
What is the connection between Tulsa and Florida anyway? Naples Flatbread came from Naples, FL, as well.

Unrelated (or is it?)   The new taco joint (Jimmy Hula's) that's replacing Taco Cabana @ 18th n Yale is also in Florida.
Same franchisee?

http://jimmyhulas.com/locations/


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 02, 2016, 04:16:07 pm
What is the connection between Tulsa and Florida anyway? Naples Flatbread came from Naples, FL, as well.



If you so something here and it is successful, then moving to Florida is nice just because of the weather...and ya might be able to repeat the success.  Seems like I remember one of the founders of Advanced Medical Instruments (one of the AMI's) here in Tulsa doing that quite a few years ago.  Used to make blood pressure devices - now a good OEM printed circuit board manufacturer.




Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 02, 2016, 09:13:10 pm
Aside from the occasional JJ’s splurge, my wife and I generally avoid chain food places.  And no, I’m not saying that for your benefit, you guys do the best lettuce wrapped bread-less sandwich.  

So are you saying more chain fast food or more chain retailers would benefit the area?

For us, anyhow, we’d be drawn by locally-owned restaurants than chain to make it downtown for a meal.  When I meet a client or friend for lunch in the Deco District for lunch it’s either at La Salle’s or Elote.

Good chains of retail or food add for traffic. Put a Chipotle or CVS in the Deco District and it would help everyone. You don't need to overdue it but you need a good mix.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on March 02, 2016, 09:19:08 pm
Good chains of retail or food add for traffic. Put a Chipotle or CVS in the Deco District and it would help everyone. You don't need to overdue it but you need a good mix.

CVS isn’t in particular favor from a development standpoint and Chipotle is still reeling from their e-coli nightmare.

I can see where the convenience of a national level drug store would be of benefit, but the two giants seem to be bent on only existing in suburban dreck.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 02, 2016, 11:02:34 pm
CVS isn’t in particular favor from a development standpoint and Chipotle is still reeling from their e-coli nightmare.

I can see where the convenience of a national level drug store would be of benefit, but the two giants seem to be bent on only existing in suburban dreck.

I guess my point was a 24 hour pharmacy and a couple of more joints like Jimmy John's help add walking traffic. It could be another chain, I just used those off the top of my head. Chains adjust to their surroundings on development.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: carltonplace on March 03, 2016, 08:33:54 am
I get your point, but other than JJ most of the other chains in DT (Arbys, Fortune Chef) don't serve beyond lunch. Like Conan I prefer the local joints over chains, but realize that lots of other Tulsans don't think this way. I think the only kind of chain that would move the needle downtown has to be some sort of destination restaurant like Ruths Chris or blech CheeseCake Factory. I'm just worried that once you open this door then we also get the other top 10 chains, Longhorn, Texas Roadhouse, Red Robin, Chilis, Olive Garden, Carrabas or <gasp> Cracker Barrel.

What we really need in downtown besides a grocery is a homegoods store and some clothing options beyond tee-shirts.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on March 03, 2016, 09:00:09 am

What we really need in downtown besides a grocery is a homegoods store and some clothing options beyond tee-shirts.

To some extent, Decopolis is a home goods store (dishes, decor, kitchen knick-knacks and utensils, artwork). Furthermore Dwelling Spaces, as the name implies, has home decor stuff also. There is nothing to the extent of West Elm or Target obviously, but I am not sure the market is there yet for a bigger home goods place unless it could be a unique regional draw like World  Market.

There have been several small home goods and clothing places which opened and closed in the Deco District. When I went to those, it really felt like going to stores out on a small isolated island or a gas station in a remote area (empty). It is a shame more Tulsans don't support downtown  businesses yet pack out lots of chain stores near 71st and Mingo. Cherry St and Brookside provide some hope, but downtown just doesn't have a retail draw right now.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: DTowner on March 03, 2016, 02:10:38 pm
Cherry Street and to a lesser extent Brookside have seen the arrival of national chains with no ill effect (so far).  I prefer locally owned, but the arrival of chains put a stamp of approval on an area and, as mentioned by others, can help drive a lot more foot traffic that benefits everyone.  I can’t think of a single restaurant that failed on Cherry St. or Brookside because of a national chain’s arrival.  Indeed, Wolfgang Puck failed (started out great, but then went downhill) while locals around it flourished.

Chains will come to downtown once we’ve grown enough to catch their eye and meet their metrics.  We shouldn’t fear that eventuality, but recognize that it will force everyone to up their game to compete and succeed.  Of course, that is a lot easier for me to say because I don’t own a small retail business downtown.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 03, 2016, 10:10:11 pm
Cherry Street and to a lesser extent Brookside have seen the arrival of national chains with no ill effect (so far).  I prefer locally owned, but the arrival of chains put a stamp of approval on an area and, as mentioned by others, can help drive a lot more foot traffic that benefits everyone.  I can’t think of a single restaurant that failed on Cherry St. or Brookside because of a national chain’s arrival.  Indeed, Wolfgang Puck failed (started out great, but then went downhill) while locals around it flourished.

Chains will come to downtown once we’ve grown enough to catch their eye and meet their metrics.  We shouldn’t fear that eventuality, but recognize that it will force everyone to up their game to compete and succeed.  Of course, that is a lot easier for me to say because I don’t own a small retail business downtown.


I was told Wolfgang was paying $12k a month for that spot. That's an unreal price tag.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on March 03, 2016, 11:38:35 pm
I was told Wolfgang was paying $12k a month for that spot. That's an unreal price tag.

I don’t think Wolfgang was writing the checks.  That was a Hughes/Henry deal.  If anything they were writing Puck a check on top of the $12K rent check.  People who were expecting Spago quality for $25-$50 a guest were likely disappointed.  It was good but not great.  SMOKE and Tallgrass are two places I can think of which ran circles around Puck’s in the same price range.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: PonderInc on March 06, 2016, 11:36:57 am
I have a friend who grew up in the suburbs of Dallas, and when she moved to Tulsa, she was baffled by the lack of national chains.  She couldn't figure out where everyone ate!  (I guess she never went to 71st and Mingo...)  She's learned since then, and now basically only eats at local restaurants... because they're so much better.

Yes, at national chains, you know what you will get.  Which can be nice when you're exhausted from driving 10 hours on a long trip in an unfamiliar place and you're starving.  But it's not what you do when you want to explore a PLACE.

I spent 5 minutes on Google street view of Denver's 16th Street Mall, and came up with the following national chains:

Noodles & Co, Office Depot (2), Chipotle, Cheesecake Factory, Smash Burger, Starbucks (2), Loft, Verizon, Sports Authority, McDonalds (2), Chilis, 7-Eleven, Subway, Athlete’s Foot, Edible Arrangements, Jason’s Deli, DQ, TJ Maxx, Famous Footwear, Payless, Radio Shack, Jimmy Johns, Sally Beauty Supply, Ross, Walgreens, Dress Barn, Rite Aid, Jason’s Deli, Jamba Juice, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, Einstein Bros Bagels, Great Clips, Wolf Camera, Hard Rock Café, Pinkberry, Corner Bakery, Sunglasses Hut, Barnes & Noble, Peets Coffee & Tea, plus some hotels and banks…

Mixed in, I saw a few local places. But there aren't enough unique local places to draw me to this location despite the massive public investment in transit and streetscaping, and the wide variety of options.  Why go somewhere when I can find every one of those destinations in my hometown?  Literally, the only reason I'm ever on the 16th Street Mall is to see if anyone is playing one of the outdoor pianos (which is cool and unique).

Tulsa has to stay unique to survive.  This is one thing we can learn from Austin.  I love some of the little neighborhood areas like on South Congress.  Even if they're only a few blocks long, they're quirky and unique, and they feel authentic to the place. We have to have one-of-a-kind offerings to attract people.  Otherwise, everyone can just stay home in Wichita and get whatever they need from the same assortment of stores and restaurants.

But that's just me.  Invariably I avoid the places dominated by national chains, no matter how upscale they may be.  You'll always find me exploring the little places that local people own and operate.  They are consistently far more interesting, both in what they have to offer and the people you'll meet there. 

Granted, this is a matter of taste.  I understand the argument that we should have something for everyone.  OK, yes.  Just as long as they don't drive the local guys out of business, I'm OK with that. And if someone can explain how national chains are good for the local small businesses, I'll go with it.  But one word of warning: "Walmart."  Just sayin...


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 06, 2016, 11:43:03 am
Local places are awesome until they don't have the income to stay open. Not every area will have millions from Kaiser or a stadium funded by public tax dollars to boom like the Greenwood/Brady Disctrict. I'll take a Starbucks in the Sinclair Building and consider that a win for everybody.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on March 06, 2016, 12:19:25 pm
Local places are awesome until they don't have the income to stay open. Not every area will have millions from Kaiser or a stadium funded by public tax dollars to boom like the Greenwood/Brady Disctrict. I'll take a Starbucks in the Sinclair Building and consider that a win for everybody.

Your bias is showing as an owner of a national franchise. My question is, how do all of these local places in small towns stay in business without millions from groups like GKFF? I mean places like Fresno, Modesto, Coos Bay, Salinas, Payson, Page, Eureka, Medford, and towns that size that aren't tourist traps, or homes to major college or near pro sports?


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 06, 2016, 12:46:08 pm
Your bias is showing as an owner of a national franchise. My question is, how do all of these local places in small towns stay in business without millions from groups like GKFF? I mean places like Fresno, Modesto, Coos Bay, Salinas, Payson, Page, Eureka, Medford, and towns that size that aren't tourist traps, or homes to major college or near pro sports?

I'm not an owner. I'm just giving you all the counter argument and it's something I analyze every day working for a chain. People want a utopia of local places but what I see is boarded up buildings in the city center. I want local to succeed but I think the vision on how to accomplish that is extremely skewed in a city the size of Tulsa.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: AquaMan on March 06, 2016, 12:56:05 pm
I think part of the locals longevity is that they have different standards for fiscal success. Or even personal success. Investors in chains want a certain roi or they grouse and bolt. Many local restaurants are run by past employees of chains or large successful locals. They rely on family, friends and self deprivation to achieve their dreams of success. And if they manage to employ cousins, aunts, and friends to survive its even more of a success.

Related. I ate at Calaveras Mexican last nite at Admiral and Lewis in the old Whittier Square. I spent much of my youth in the fifties/sixties in that area. I loved it. Obviously a family operated restaurant with a very adventurous menu stuffed into what used to be a Crown Drugstore way back. I would go to this place over any chain for real Mexican food served quickly with hospitality. And the area is coming back to life so I want to support that growth.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on March 06, 2016, 01:29:47 pm
I'm not an owner. I'm just giving you all the counter argument and it's something I analyze every day working for a chain. People want a utopia of local places but what I see is boarded up buildings in the city center. I want local to succeed but I think the vision on how to accomplish that is extremely skewed in a city the size of Tulsa.

You have to take into consideration that Tulsa is what, 10 years into trying to undo 30+ years of nobody gives a damn. You have a small group of people that had a vision of a different Blue Dome/Brady area and they started out on their own, and most of the places they moved into they probably got for a song in the beginning and very wisely so because if it didn't work the financial loss wold not be as high if it had been in other areas of DT. I applaud them and GKFF for giving an area that the before the jail, the only reasons to go there at night were you were homeless, going to Cain's, or worked at the dairy.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 06, 2016, 01:42:55 pm
You have to take into consideration that Tulsa is what, 10 years into trying to undo 30+ years of nobody gives a damn. You have a small group of people that had a vision of a different Blue Dome/Brady area and they started out on their own, and most of the places they moved into they probably got for a song in the beginning and very wisely so because if it didn't work the financial loss wold not be as high if it had been in other areas of DT. I applaud them and GKFF for giving an area that the before the jail, the only reasons to go there at night were you were homeless, going to Cain's, or worked at the dairy.

For sure. When I moved just south of Downtown in 2004 it was a ghost town. Had my first beer at Caz's because it was one of the only bars around. Surrounded by nothing great. I'm a huge fan of the GKFF, my point was that isn't going to take more than that and a stadium in one area for Downtown to be great. I think we can all agree a chain in a mixed use building is better than a surface parking lot or abandon building.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on March 06, 2016, 07:33:24 pm
I think part of the locals longevity is that they have different standards for fiscal success. Or even personal success. Investors in chains want a certain roi or they grouse and bolt. Many local restaurants are run by past employees of chains or large successful locals. They rely on family, friends and self deprivation to achieve their dreams of success. And if they manage to employ cousins, aunts, and friends to survive its even more of a success.

Related. I ate at Calaveras Mexican last nite at Admiral and Lewis in the old Whittier Square. I spent much of my youth in the fifties/sixties in that area. I loved it. Obviously a family operated restaurant with a very adventurous menu stuffed into what used to be a Crown Drugstore way back. I would go to this place over any chain for real Mexican food served quickly with hospitality. And the area is coming back to life so I want to support that growth.

We’ve eaten at Calveras several times.  Next time after dinner, walk back to the east across Lewis.  There is a great Mexican bakery that’s perfect for a little after dinner treat.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TheArtist on March 06, 2016, 10:59:53 pm
I have actually never been more hopeful about what is happening in our downtown.  This may sound a bit crazy but many of you know I am a Disney nut so what the heck... I have always had the notion that downtown Tulsa could kind of be a sort of DisneyWorld or Downtown Disney, mixed in with a real city.  (Remember Disney World is about 43 square miles and employs over 70,000 people and has a payroll of over 1.2 billion per year [not including the other companies on its property] so its no small potatoes) and hosts over 50 MILLION visitors per year.  Part of Walts original vision was to recreate a perceived, childhood memories, once upon a time, perfect small town atmosphere mixed with magic and stories.  Epcot was the future city "Experimental Prototype City Of Tomorrow".  And I have watched as Downtown Disney (World not Land) grow and grow and grow and stay extremely busy.  However, a "real" city, like London can have so many wonderful "attractions" from small little streets with unique and quirky shops and cafe's to great stores like Harrods, Museums, and great history and the incredible stories and architecture that go with that, wonderful public spaces and so fourth.  (Is one reason I think the European parks struggle so much is because they are competing with the cities that themselves have so many interesting things to see and do compared with so many American cities)

My hope was to bring in more tourists to downtown with the Tulsa Art Deco Museum.  We have some incredible architecture and stories. I would love to be a part of creating some magical places to explore and shop, etc.

Looks like in a way Kaiser and his organizations have a similar vision. They are doing a lot of the things I would be doing, if I had that kind of money. (Actually I would be building an Art Deco Disney World if I had that kind of money lol but I digress) and they are seeking out partners like Magic City Books and the Chocolate Factory, helping to build Museums, the park, bringing in stories and history with Woody Guthrie & Bob Dylan, etc.

Then mix that in with Santa Fe Square and what other local people are doing around downtown.  If we all keep heading in the direction of building a wonderful downtown full of great attractions, interesting architecture, great public spaces, great stories and history, art and entertainment, walkable places, and so fourth.... I think we are going to have an incredible downtown!  

I hope that many of the little local places can grow or better themselves if they wish and can turn into more wonderful, unique and special places that people from around the world will enjoy.  Our downtown is small enough that we can really do some things that will have a great impact on its over all character so that we can stand out and be unique compared to other cities.  

I also think there is a difference between having a chain like a Mc Donalds on a corner versus a Rainforest Cafe and having that mixed in with local restaurants that can grow with the downtown into "you have got to try this" places/attractions of their own.  And then around the corner the quieter, unique, downtown neighborhoods with their own little cafes and shops by where people live (the Resorts).  But, when we do get a chain like say a Starbucks it should be one of the best and most interesting of them.  It should feel it needs to reflect the quality and uniqueness of the area.  Had one of my friends who ran over to the Starbucks at Downtown Disney when we were working there and when he got back to the group was like "Omg, you should have seen that Starbucks!" That, is what you want for your downtown if your going to have chains.  Even the chains should be something special. Downtown should imho be something special.  Not just another place like everywhere else but taller and more dense.  And if I can do anything to help with that, I will.  And when you support the local businesses and help them thrive, you are a part of creating that as well. But even Disney knows you have to have it be pedestrian friendly which includes having lots of unique and interesting things to see.  That you have to have great transit and multiple types of transit.  You need it to be clean, have a variety of things to see and do and explore. Lots of greenery is good, hearing music outside can be soothing, interesting and attractive, stories and history are important, etc. etc. and that above all, keep in mind that the greatest attraction of all is, are, The People themselves.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 07, 2016, 04:32:09 pm
I'm a tad worried about the Deco. We have two shops in the Philcade that just moved out. I'm not sure if they went out of business or moved, but I don't like empty store fronts. I love that you've upgraded your shop though.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TheArtist on March 07, 2016, 07:14:49 pm
I'm a tad worried about the Deco. We have two shops in the Philcade that just moved out. I'm not sure if they went out of business or moved, but I don't like empty store fronts. I love that you've upgraded your shop though.

It's a tough area.  Hopefully we will get another restaurant or two and things will pick up. Living in the area will help but probably not as much as people think. Hotels are probably better. Would love to see some more larger shops that can have a broader variety of stuff.  Just doing something like a small amount of women's apparel and the such is a tough sell in this area unless you really have something unique or "in" and with a lot of buzz.

Again, with retail in an urban environment you need to be off a high traffic area where lots of people walk.  Near a transit station helps. That is typically where you see lots of shops in other cities (or you get lots of shops in one spot and the transit follows).  And "destination" type things help too (lots of shops/restaurants can be a destination).  Our downtown is still very "amorphous" spread out and unsettled. 

It could end up that there is no retail in the Deco District (with me moving somewhere else) and just mostly daytime eateries.  Just depends on how things fill in.  And that is up to the city and or the building owners/developers.  It's their choice.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: davideinstein on March 07, 2016, 07:23:46 pm
It's a tough area.  Hopefully we will get another restaurant or two and things will pick up. Living in the area will help but probably not as much as people think. Hotels are probably better. Would love to see some more larger shops that can have a broader variety of stuff.  Just doing something like a small amount of women's apparel and the such is a tough sell in this area unless you really have something unique or "in" and with a lot of buzz.

Again, with retail in an urban environment you need to be off a high traffic area where lots of people walk.  Near a transit station helps. That is typically where you see lots of shops in other cities (or you get lots of shops in one spot and the transit follows).  And "destination" type things help too (lots of shops/restaurants can be a destination).  Our downtown is still very "amorphous" spread out and unsettled. 

It could end up that there is no retail in the Deco District (with me moving somewhere else) and just mostly daytime eateries.  Just depends on how things fill in.  And that is up to the city and or the building owners/developers.  It's their choice.

I want a pub or two. Keeps people around the area after 5pm for guys like you and gives us the option to become a late night store. I think pubs/retail go together well.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Bamboo World on July 20, 2016, 04:37:28 pm
I walked by today, and the building is looking wonderful.

Lilly Architects does a good job with the old building rehab projects.

It's nice to see the former windows and doors being re-opened.  Many lintels are in place already.  It's mostly a matter of removing the infill walls below the existing lintels, but it's transforming the façades tremendously.  It might sound a bit odd and geeky, but I sorta/kinda felt as though the building gave me a hug as I walked in its shadow, along the public sidewalk.

Ghost signs are being revealed on the Detroit Avenue façade.  At least two signs were painted near the M.B. Archer Street corner, and I hope more ghost signs will be discovered on the south façade.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Bamboo World on July 29, 2016, 05:31:47 pm


The Archer Building, a warehouse owned by BOKF Foundation in the Brady District (the big, white building on Archer, between Cincinnati and Detroit) will soon become home to art studios, apartments, and almost a dozen retailers, including Holy Mountain Records, a second Glacier Confectioners location named Chocolate City, a nonprofit book store, Magic City Books...


...and Strange Donuts (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/retail/strange-donuts-to-open-shop-in-brady-district/article_05376406-4381-5ade-9ef4-7b0df35e43ff.html).



Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: hello on August 01, 2016, 07:15:56 am
I can't wait for Magic City books to open. Tulsa is lacking in bookstores. Are there any other good used book stores besides Gardners? That place is too overwhelming.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on August 01, 2016, 07:41:53 am

My hope was to bring in more tourists to downtown with the Tulsa Art Deco Museum.  We have some incredible architecture and stories. I would love to be a part of creating some magical places to explore and shop, etc.

Looks like in a way Kaiser and his organizations have a similar vision. They are doing a lot of the things I would be doing, if I had that kind of money. (Actually I would be building an Art Deco Disney World if I had that kind of money lol but I digress) and they are seeking out partners like Magic City Books and the Chocolate Factory, helping to build Museums, the park, bringing in stories and history with Woody Guthrie & Bob Dylan, etc.



I am sure you have already thought about this as funding mechanism... Kickstarter or other crowd funding thing??






Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: cannon_fodder on August 01, 2016, 08:24:47 am
I can't wait for Magic City books to open. Tulsa is lacking in bookstores. Are there any other good used book stores besides Gardners? That place is too overwhelming.

There is a used bookstore in Promenade mall that I have frequently bought books from. Very knowledgeable staff.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TheArtist on August 01, 2016, 11:10:38 am
I can't wait for Magic City books to open. Tulsa is lacking in bookstores. Are there any other good used book stores besides Gardners? That place is too overwhelming.

Don't forget your current downtown bookstore "DECOPOLIS Books" https://www.facebook.com/DecopolisBooks/   we are constantly growing and adding a greater variety of classic novels, gift books, childrens books, etc. at our new bigger location!


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TylerBGoode on August 02, 2016, 07:42:24 am
Don't forget your current downtown bookstore "DECOPOLIS Books" https://www.facebook.com/DecopolisBooks/   we are constantly growing and adding a greater variety of classic novels, gift books, childrens books, etc. at our new bigger location!

The Hard Case crime books are a lot of fun. Highly recommended.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Bamboo World on August 20, 2016, 03:13:01 pm
Yesterday I walked by and noticed a few more ghost signs that are being uncovered on the M.B. Archer Street façade:

"Minneapolis Brewing Co."
"The Foos Engine Co."
"Gustin-Bacon Mfg Co."

Near the Detroit Avenue corner:  "J.P. Camp Co." (I think -- can't tell for sure)

There are several more, but they're not legible to me, yet.



Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: hello on February 23, 2017, 08:43:43 am
In the newest Tulsa People there was a small paragraph about the businesses that are going to be in this building. One new name was "Goods Bodega." Does anyone know what this is? Is it an actual bodega like you'd see in New York because that is just what the Brady needs and I'd be super excited to be able to by QT style groceries.

Just found this small blurb:

"A corner market with delectable offerings and convenience items for Downtown."

Hopefully will be a better selection and price point than Archer Market.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Tulsa Zephyr on February 23, 2017, 06:57:07 pm
Don't forget your current downtown bookstore "DECOPOLIS Books" https://www.facebook.com/DecopolisBooks/   we are constantly growing and adding a greater variety of classic novels, gift books, childrens books, etc. at our new bigger location!

FYI, my wife and I were having a drink at the bar at the Rusty Crane when a reporter from Fox 23 came in with a camera and asked us what we thought about the new construction going on across the street.  We spoke to her on camera for about 5 minutes.  One of her questions was "Aren't you happy that downtown will have a bookstore?" and I replied that downtown already has a bookstore and mentioned Decopolis by name.  Of course that comment didn't make it to air.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Bamboo World on February 23, 2017, 07:14:04 pm


FYI, my wife and I were having a drink at the bar at the Rusty Crane when a reporter from Fox 23 came in with a camera and asked us what we thought about the new construction going on across the street.  We spoke to her on camera for about 5 minutes.


Did the reporter happen to mention the excavation along the face of building?  The hole in Detroit Avenue has gotten deep, and I'm wondering why it's so extensive.



Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TheArtist on February 23, 2017, 09:32:53 pm
FYI, my wife and I were having a drink at the bar at the Rusty Crane when a reporter from Fox 23 came in with a camera and asked us what we thought about the new construction going on across the street.  We spoke to her on camera for about 5 minutes.  One of her questions was "Aren't you happy that downtown will have a bookstore?" and I replied that downtown already has a bookstore and mentioned Decopolis by name.  Of course that comment didn't make it to air.

Well thank you so much for the plug!


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: DowntownDan on February 24, 2017, 08:40:51 am
Did the reporter happen to mention the excavation along the face of building?  The hole in Detroit Avenue has gotten deep, and I'm wondering why it's so extensive.



They did that on all sides so my guess is to seal the basement so it can be used for storage.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: swake on February 24, 2017, 10:53:41 am
They did that on all sides so my guess is to seal the basement so it can be used for storage.

Or parking


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: DowntownDan on February 24, 2017, 08:51:41 pm
Or parking

That would be ideal.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: cannon_fodder on March 06, 2017, 11:07:25 am
I looked at it last weekend - it appears that they are repairing and sealing the foundation.  I could be wrong, but it didn't look like they were doing any kind of cut to add parking.  I haven't heard that to be in the plans either.  But it would be cool. 

http://www.bookweb.org/news/magic-city-books-open-tulsa-early-2017-35224


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: PonderInc on March 06, 2017, 11:08:58 am
Foundation repair.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 16, 2017, 12:31:19 pm
FYI, my wife and I were having a drink at the bar at the Rusty Crane when a reporter from Fox 23 came in with a camera and asked us what we thought about the new construction going on across the street.  We spoke to her on camera for about 5 minutes.  One of her questions was "Aren't you happy that downtown will have a bookstore?" and I replied that downtown already has a bookstore and mentioned Decopolis by name.  Of course that comment didn't make it to air.


Not a fan of Fox23, but that is just pathetic they would not include mention of Decopolis on air.  Beyond tacky.


I finally made it in to Decopolis over the weekend and love it!  William was working on a new canvas - doing some kind of pencil layout work.  It is just a lot of fun to walk around looking at stuff.  Couldn't buy anything this time, but found a couple books that looked interesting, so will be back after payday...   Have told some friends coming in from Texas about it who claim to be big Deco fans, so maybe they will come by, too.








Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TheArtist on March 16, 2017, 05:03:35 pm

Not a fan of Fox23, but that is just pathetic they would not include mention of Decopolis on air.  Beyond tacky.


I finally made it in to Decopolis over the weekend and love it!  William was working on a new canvas - doing some kind of pencil layout work.  It is just a lot of fun to walk around looking at stuff.  Couldn't buy anything this time, but found a couple books that looked interesting, so will be back after payday...   Have told some friends coming in from Texas about it who claim to be big Deco fans, so maybe they will come by, too.








Thanks for the compliments on DECOPOLIS!  Look forward to seeing you again, and your friends!  Oh and the painting is coming along nicely!


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 23, 2017, 09:10:45 am
Thanks for the compliments on DECOPOLIS!  Look forward to seeing you again, and your friends!  Oh and the painting is coming along nicely!


I will try to get in soon and see it.  Also want a print of Skyport, but old guy on crazy too small income, it may take a little longer. 


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on May 26, 2017, 01:15:27 pm
UPDATE:

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Archer Building getting ready to open retail spaces this summer
Some of the names of the Archer Building's future tenants have been on the fence outside the building for months. Others haven't been announced.

The plan is to have them all open by the end of the year, and add a broad swath of retail and artist studio space to a burgeoning Brady Arts District.

One wave of retailers will open this summer, including the Goods Bodega, Guitar House of Tulsa and Made: The Indie Emporium Shop, which will move from the Philcade Building in the Deco District and then use its current location for a different concept.

A larger group of retailers and restaurants are expected to open this fall, including Lone Wolf Banh Mi, Press Cafe x Yoga, Magic City Books, Glacier Confection, a board game cafe and sports bar  concept called Shuffles and a restaurant from local restaurateur Tuck Curren.

Ground floor retail and restaurants aren't the only thing the $17 million renovation project from the George Kaiser Family Foundation boasts. There will be 35 artist work spaces and 14 studio apartments for artists in the two-story former warehouse at 215 E. Archer St.

Strange Donuts and Holy Mountain Records, which had previously announced locations in the Archer Building, will not be tenants.

More local businesses

In a section of downtown filling up with GKFF projects, the Archer Building is, to at least one future tenant, a "missing piece of the puzzle."

"If you look at traffic flow for example on First Friday, … it should be such a busy, bustling thoroughfare to connect stuff over by the ballpark like Living Arts, and restaurants over there to Guthrie Green," said Thom Crowe, who with wife Christine Sharp-Crowe owns Made.

He added: "Right now, you can sort of walk between an office building and now an abandoned Spaghetti Warehouse Building parking lot. The restaurants and the shops that they're putting in there perfectly fit. It's like completing the puzzle in Brady Arts District."

Crowe said the new, larger space will allow his wife to get back to what she started the business for: encouraging fellow makers and teaching classes. The current location, he said, meets an interest in greeting cards and Tulsa-focused wares because of its proximity to the downtown cluster of hotels.

Crowe noted what the nonprofit has done for business owners and development in downtown.

"If you look at the Brady Arts District and the shops, Antoinette's, 36° North, the small businesses that are there starting up or just having a place to go work, Ida Red and us — it's really giving people an opportunity that otherwise, they wouldn't be able to have or it would take a lot of finding investors or getting a lot of other financial burdens.

"They're really making it possible for smaller businesses in Tulsa to thrive."

Residential doughnut

Photographs of signs line the blank white walls of an artist’s studio on the second floor of the Archer Building. The room, among close to three dozen on the second floor, is where Joel Daniel Phillips, with a maroon ball cap perched on his head, paces and contemplates the stories behind the signs he found along Route 66.

Phillips is from Seattle and lived in San Francisco before coming to Tulsa as a Tulsa Artist Fellow. He receives a $20,000 stipend plus room and board. The signs are a departure from his typical work, which has been “drawing my neighbors.”

In downtown Tulsa, he has noticed he doesn't have a lot of neighbors. Tulsa’s population density is a like a doughnut, he said, with a hole in the middle. And so he’s drawing the signs because they drew him in. Some are existing businesses. Others have seen time pass them by.

To Phillips, they are an acknowledgement of Tulsa growing around them, a clue to how big and empty Oklahoma is compared to the density of the Bay Area.

Artists like Phillips are part of GKFF's proposed solution to the lack of downtown density, Phillips described. The fellowship program, in addition to attracting artistic talent to Tulsa, is also intended "to people" the Brady Arts District.

The building itself was renovated with an eye toward improving the walk-ability of the Brady Arts District.

Aaron Miller of GKFF, who has a degree in metropolitan strategic development, said he hopes the Archer Building becomes a gateway between the burgeoning Brady Arts District and the Greenwood District.

The building, he explained, was originally built because of its proximity to the railroad tracks and then, as the car became the preferred method of transportation, the Archer Building was preserved by lack of use.

Rent for retail tenants, Miller said, is below market rate to give small businesses and entrepreneurs the ability to take advantage of the location in the Brady Arts District and because of requirements of the New Market Tax Credits that were used for the project.

Tulsa County property records show the building is owned by the BOKF Foundation, which is the nonprofit arm of BOK Financial. George Kaiser is the majority owner and chairman of BOKF.

Miller said the foundation has signed a long-term lease with BOKF to use the building.

He said the building is aimed to give downtown a "different type of retail" with a customer who is comfortable walking a few blocks.

"The Archer Building is another step in the right direction to make downtown Tulsa a walkable neighborhood."

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Archer Building tenants

Summer 2017
The Goods Bodega: The Goods will be a corner market with food and convenience items.
Guitar House of Tulsa: Guitar House has provided vintage and rare guitars to the Tulsa market since 1964.
Made: Made is a modern handmade boutique with a goal of bringing thoughtful, functional design to our local community. Made also serves as a place for Tulsa's creatives to gather in a hybrid retail, classroom and studio space.
Fall 2017
Press Cafe x Yoga: Press is a minimalist coffeeshop with an adjoining hot yoga studio. Press is also a recent winner of Lobeck Taylor Family Foundation’s Startup Series.
Lone Wolf Banh Mi: Lone Wolf will open a full-service restaurant offering their famous banh mi sandwiches, kimchi fries, fried rice bowls and more.
Magic City Books: Magic City Books is a new, independent bookstore operated by the nonprofit Tulsa Literary Coalition.
Glacier Confection: Glacier’s much larger secondary location will feature an educational component in addition to bean-to-bar production on-site.
Shuffles: Shuffles is a board game cafe/bar offering a full restaurant, coffee shop and bar. Along with a sizable “open box” board game library, a retail space will allow you to take game and accessories home with you.
Tuck Curren restaurant: A new, to-be-named restaurant concept by Tuck Curren, chef and owner of Biga and Local Table, will also open in the Archer Building.




http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/realestate/archer-building-getting-ready-to-open-retail-spaces-this-summer/article_a28a2c91-4e2a-56eb-a580-7c15c7a74795.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/realestate/archer-building-getting-ready-to-open-retail-spaces-this-summer/article_a28a2c91-4e2a-56eb-a580-7c15c7a74795.html)


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Tulsasaurus Rex on May 26, 2017, 04:52:45 pm
Strange Donuts and Holy Mountain Records, which had previously announced locations in the Archer Building, will not be tenants

hmmm  :-\

Also, that says it will be a "second" Glacier location. We discussed earlier how that's silly and Glacier should just move.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on February 28, 2018, 01:19:45 pm
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Owner of Biga to open jazz club and restaurant in Tulsa Arts District

Two-story jazz club and restaurant opening in Archer Building, Glacier chocolate opens soon


The next food places in the Archer Building are expected to open within the next two months.

Glacier Confection is nearing completion of its second Tulsa Arts District location. The new store will have chocolate production facilities, a classroom area and a full bar in an open concept that will be visible to everyone in the building.

“If all goes well, we hope to be open sometime this month (March),” owner Bill Copeland said.

Tuck Curren, owner of Biga Italian restaurant, said he expects to have Duets, a jazz club and restaurant, open in the Archer Building sometime in April.

“It will have a jazz club on the bottom floor and a New American restaurant on the second floor,” Curren said. “We will be able to seat 120 upstairs with the outside patio and 120 in the club. The club will be booking some nationwide jazz acts, as well as local talent.”

A board game café called Shuffles also is expected to open in the Archer Building in the near future.

The Archer Building is on East Archer Street between MLK Jr. Boulevard and North Detroit Avenue.

Other food spots already are open in the Archer Building, in addition to some specialty shops.

Places to grab a bite, a cup of coffee or a glass of wine include Lone Wolf Banh Mi,

http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/restaurants/owner-of-biga-to-open-jazz-club-and-restaurant-in/article_b849dad2-d474-568b-96e9-48c909eb4c7d.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/blogs/scene/restaurants/owner-of-biga-to-open-jazz-club-and-restaurant-in/article_b849dad2-d474-568b-96e9-48c909eb4c7d.html)


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: SXSW on February 28, 2018, 03:52:59 pm
This is an exciting new development, lots of good places in there and activates a former blank wall along Archer.

(http://tulsanow.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Archer-Project-Brady-1.jpg)

Anyone know what tenant(s) the Brady Flats will have on the corner of Archer & Boston?  Now we just need those parking lots redeveloped between Boston and Detroit.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Conan71 on February 28, 2018, 06:42:09 pm
I'd be curious to know how far the Brady District would have developed thus far without the investment of the GKFF.  Think about it, they've got a huge stake in the district.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: erfalf on February 28, 2018, 08:22:16 pm
I'd be curious to know how far the Brady District would have developed thus far without the investment of the GKFF.  Think about it, they've got a huge stake in the district.

Hard to imagine the district without the park that kind of brings it all together. Not to mention two other half block warehouses that have been totally activated (vs being completely empty).

In my humble opinion, Guthrie Green is right up there with some of the best pocket parks in some of the most vibrant big cities in America. All though it may be a touch too big to be called a "pocket park", however it's just not one of these monster Central Park/Gathering Place. Really it should be compared to town squares. Even then, it's one of the best of those I've ever been to as well.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: SXSW on February 28, 2018, 08:55:41 pm
I agree Guthrie Green is a gem.  It will be even better once some of the empty lots are filled in around it, the main one being at MLK & Brady (Spaghetti Warehouse).  That whole block seems like it would likely be the next GKFF redevelopment target.

Also the lots/warehouse on Cameron between Boston and Main to create a better connection between Prairie/56 Degrees North/Cain’s/future OKPop and the Green.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: hello on March 01, 2018, 08:00:51 am
I'd be curious to know how far the Brady District would have developed thus far without the investment of the GKFF.  Think about it, they've got a huge stake in the district.

I think we already know--it wouldn't have-at least not for another decade if not more. The downtown development of 2008/2009 was south of the tracks. Then we got hit with the recession.

Without GKFF's investment Tulsa would not be on the upswing it is now. My only complaint in the Brady is the lack of affordable apartments for those who are not associated with the GKFF. Something small, under $1,000 a month to give young professionals a place to live and keep the Arts district vibrant.



Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: MostSeriousness on March 01, 2018, 08:29:13 am
It will get there. Maybe not this year, but in the next year I wouldn't be surprised with a 'mixed-income' residential boom


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Townsend on March 01, 2018, 12:01:08 pm
I'd be curious to know how far the Brady District would have developed thus far without the investment of the GKFF.  Think about it, they've got a huge stake in the district.

Perhaps something like this...

(https://occursus.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/dsc_06902.jpg?w=760)


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: SXSW on March 01, 2018, 12:22:33 pm
Interesting national article about the $100 million impact of GKFF on the district: https://www.moderncities.com/article/2016-dec-from-parking-lot-to-world-class-public-space-in-tulsa/page/3 (https://www.moderncities.com/article/2016-dec-from-parking-lot-to-world-class-public-space-in-tulsa/page/3)

Sounds like they are planning something over at Boulder & Easton per this TW article:

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“GKFF owns the land and is planning a development consistent with our goals of creating a vibrant district that is attractive for young, creative people to live and work in Tulsa,” Levit said. “We are studying various options and hope to accommodate both residential and office uses on the property

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/government/kaiser-foundation-focusing-on-residential-and-business-development-to-anchor/article_672c4d67-c3c4-530b-9957-792a78d4a1e3.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/government/kaiser-foundation-focusing-on-residential-and-business-development-to-anchor/article_672c4d67-c3c4-530b-9957-792a78d4a1e3.html)

Would really like to see the Spaghetti Warehouse block be a future target, along with the empty lots on Main.  I haven't heard anything new in awhile about the Hanson studio/brewery project at Main & Brady.


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: Tulsasaurus Rex on March 01, 2018, 01:23:53 pm
Would really like to see the Spaghetti Warehouse block be a future target, along with the empty lots on Main.  I haven't heard anything new in awhile about the Hanson studio/brewery project at Main & Brady.

(https://assets1.risnews.com/2017-10/target%2010-26-17.jpg)

You want this in the Brady District?!  ;)


Title: Re: Magic City Books / Archer Building
Post by: cannon_fodder on March 01, 2018, 01:30:41 pm
Would really like to see the Spaghetti Warehouse block be a future target, along with the empty lots on Main.  I haven't heard anything new in awhile about the Hanson studio/brewery project at Main & Brady.

Some of the Spaghetti Warehouse block recently sold per records.  I've heard rumors on the rest but nothing I consider reliable/likely.

On Main Street there is a new parking lot at Cameron (slated to be a garage eventually), across the street is to be the Hanson/3CG brewery and studio, next to that Davenport lofts, across from that the OK Pop Museum.  That basically leaves one empty lot and one heavily used surface parking lot (Mexicali) unspoken for.  If all goes to plan, that's a lot slated for 3 blocks of one street.