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Title: Tulsa Shock Post by: DolfanBob on June 30, 2015, 07:14:20 am I will admit. Winning makes you pay attention. I have not been to a Shock game but they are starting to peak my interest.
I had high hopes when they brought in Coach Richardson and after his dismal addition to the team. My hopes of ever seeing this team do anything worthwhile sunk even lower. But this new Coach and lineup seems to be gelling into quite a formidable team. I'm sure they will start to see a boost in attendance and finally start getting some National attention and Television coverage. I also was unaware that this team won three WNBA Championships at Detroit with Coach Bill"Thug"Laimbeer. He was just here with his team the New York Liberty. And they lost. So kudos to the true Shock fans for sticking through the tough times to finally get to the fun and winning times. Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: Laramie on July 01, 2015, 07:51:56 am Tulsa's community support for the WNBA Shock has been positive:
2010: Tulsa Shock: Games 17 Total - 81,811 Average 4,812 2011: Tulsa Shock: Games 17 Total - 82,069 Average 4,828 2012: Tulsa Shock: Games 17 Total - 88,453 Average 5,203 2013: Tulsa Shock: Games 17 Total - 93,055 Average 5,474 2014: Tulsa Shock: Games 17 Total - 94,626 Average 5,566 Sources: http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2014/08/19/Research-and-Ratings/WNBA-gate.aspx (http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2014/08/19/Research-and-Ratings/WNBA-gate.aspx) http://www.kenn.com/the_blog/?page_id=5915 (http://www.kenn.com/the_blog/?page_id=5915) . . . . . Note: 2015 figures are in process. The Tulsa Shock has held their own despite an on court record that hasn't been the best in previous years. Phoenix has had a spike in attendance with the acquisition of Britney Griner. Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: PonderInc on July 07, 2015, 09:51:16 am When the Shock relocated to Tulsa from Detroit, most of the players, who were free agents, declined to relocate. Then we hired Richardson, who knew nothing about the women's game or its players, or how to coach women, etc, etc. Then, despite several losing seasons and coming in last in the league, Tulsa never got a number one draft pick. (It's hard to rebuild when you're starting from scratch and can't get a break.)
We started making incremental improvements under Kloppenberg, who does know the women's game and it's players, but never quite got all the pieces together. Finally, we got Fred Williams, who's an amazing coach, and some brilliant draft picks (Diggins, Sims, et al) and acquisitions (veterans Paris, Pierson and Christmas). This year, the Shock were tearing up the competition, and playing tenacious, fun, fast-paced basketball. However, the unlucky streak continues as we've now lost both starting guards, Odyssey Sims (hopefully, she'll come back soon) and Skylar Diggins (out for the season), to knee injuries. We'd already lost Glory Johnson (previously a starting forward) who's sitting out this year due to pregnancy. Another veteran, Tiffany Jackson Jones is benched due to injuries. Basically, we've played the last few games with 9 players, most of them with only one or two years experience in the league. Despite all this, we're still playing decent ball. The veterans are showing their leadership, and the younger players are stepping up. If Odyssey Sims can get healthy, this team is still a monster. Fingers crossed. Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: DolfanBob on July 14, 2015, 03:22:37 pm And just when things are turning around.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/shock/from-the-blogs-season-ticket-holders-launch-campaign-to-save/article_0d3e93bf-9d8e-5522-899f-100dd47caf9f.html Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: cannon_fodder on July 14, 2015, 04:43:25 pm Unfortunately, they averaged higher attendance in Detroit. Now, they were winning big in Detroit until they moved. But still, when you move a team and find a net 3k attendance drop... It is bad.
Hope the rumors aren't true. But not looking good. More bad news - it sets the perception of Tulsa support for a pro team back... Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on July 14, 2015, 05:40:38 pm So if they leave, are you going to miss the lesbian bars, flannel, Doc Martins and horse shows downtown? Doesn't seem like there was much support for the WNBA 6 years ago.
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=13894.0 (http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=13894.0) Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: TulsaRufnex on July 17, 2015, 08:09:45 am So, let me understand... this team is finally WINNING and the OKC-based majority owners are looking at throwing in the towel? Now?
From 2011... http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/wnba/shock/story/2011-09-07/Tulsa-owners-committed-Shock-not-folding-after-dismal-year/50304836/1 Quote "This is the only major league franchise in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and when we start winning the fans are going to break down this door," said minority owner Stuart Price, who says the franchise started out with a five-year plan. ::) Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: davideinstein on July 17, 2015, 09:56:42 pm Time to put more effort into getting an MLS team.
Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: DolfanBob on July 20, 2015, 02:28:00 pm Kind of a dick move but I get it. Dallas is a huge market and has the potential to be a big money maker for the owners. It takes money to get the best players and I'm sure the draw of living in Dallas/Fort Worth will be a easier sell than Tulsa for the players.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/shock/tulsa-shock-majority-owner-bill-cameron-announces-plans-to-move/article_3f774a7d-356b-540b-8ed5-a27315a07318.html Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: cannon_fodder on July 20, 2015, 07:31:08 pm Nope. Not possible. The ownership group of both the Shock and the Thunder are committed to including Tulsa blah blah blah...
Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: Conan71 on July 20, 2015, 08:51:14 pm I love Stuart Price calling his former BFF, Cameron, a liar. The minority ownership group has now sued Cameron for basically being a d-bag.
Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: DolfanBob on July 21, 2015, 08:01:51 am And John Klein summed it up better than anyone. Except maybe Joe Friday. "Just the facts Ma'am"
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/johnklein/john-klein-shock-failures-were-about-the-team-not-tulsa/article_05b21cd0-5f96-59f8-8204-97f3f4b4641d.html Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: patric on July 21, 2015, 10:42:39 am So, let me understand... this team is finally WINNING and the OKC-based majority owners are looking at throwing in the towel? Now? Tulsa was just their stepping stone, and now that they spelled that out, its not likely Tulsans will maintain the same loyalty. Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: TeeDub on July 21, 2015, 01:57:52 pm Any other takers to fill their spots at the BOK center? Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: DTowner on July 21, 2015, 04:01:40 pm I guess I can now skip attending my first Shock game.
Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: TulsaRufnex on July 22, 2015, 11:22:55 am Any other takers to fill their spots at the BOK center? Won't be the Talons or the 66ers, that's for sure... IMHO it was Cameron-Box Sports who paved the way to throw the Tulsa Talons under the bus and selling them off to San Antonio in short order... it was painfully obvious they couldn't care less about Tulsa's Arena Football team when the owners started spinning the media on how disappointed they were with attendance within the first few home games after Mr. Cameron and Mr. Box of OKC bought into the ownership group. http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=14172.0 The Thunder just moved the 66ers to OKC, so NBA D-League is not an option... http://www.newson6.com/story/26055434/thunder-to-move-66ers-to-okc Don't get me started on the Tulsa Revolution indoor soccer team. They're in over their heads in a league that can't even decide on whether a goal is worth one point... Quote The Major Arena Soccer League is expected to officially announce its new rules and policies on Wednesday. The oddest, of course, is that only four teams will use the multi-point system that the Rochester Lancers played with in the Major Indoor Soccer League the past three year, while the other 19 will use the single-point system, just like a goal is a goal in outdoor soccer. Only Rochester, Harrisburg, Baltimore and Syracuse from the Eastern Division will use two- and three-point goals. Detroit, the fifth team in the Eastern Division, will go with single-point, making this even stranger. Yes, I know in baseball the American League uses a designated hitter and the National League doesn't, but this is still an odd way to run a league. Basically, the home team's rule apply and based on the Lancers schedule, 17 of their 20 matches will be played using the muti-point system. The owners in the new MASL, a combination of former Professional Arena Soccer League clubs and former MISL teams Frankly, I really wish TU Men's basketball would go back to playing at least some of their home games downtown... but alas... Title: Re: Tulsa Shock Post by: TulsaRufnex on July 22, 2015, 11:33:46 am I guess I can now skip attending my first Shock game. I went late last season, when the team was still in the hunt for a playoff spot. Skylar Diggins and Courtney Paris were worth the price of a ticket, and I had a good time, but... There was so much overkill with the PA Announcer, t-shirt gun, canned cheers/chants, cartoon mascot jumping off a mini-trampoline, etc... IMHO, authentic Tulsa is the Chili Bowl and Crybaby Hill and hopefully, the Tulsa Athletics with our grassroots group continuing to use the fairgrounds and hosting the Tulsa Rugby Club and our Aussie Rules Football team, the Tulsa Buffaloes... http://www.tulsabuffaloes.com/ As for the children of Tulsa who will soon be deprived of their WNBA team.... http://www.alwayssonnypodcast.com/archives/2015/7/7/episode-18-ava-birch-in-the-studio |