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Ya right. Plumbing problems. ;) Well that's as good as any excuse to close that disaster of a location.
TPD East Division is worked round the clock there. If they're going to keep it open. Make it like the Eagles Stadium. Have Police on the premises. And a Judge on site to preside over all the violence and theft that goes on 24/7.

Up to 6 months closed. And they are offering employees the opportunity to transfer to other local stores if openings become available.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/retail/wal-mart-to-temporarily-close-its-store-just-east-of/article_b1526752-84d9-5103-9633-95e6c27cd075.html

Ya right. Plumbing problems. ;) Well that's as good as any excuse to close that disaster of a location.
TPD East Division is worked round the clock there. If they're going to keep it open. Make it like the Eagles Stadium. Have Police on the premises. And a Judge on site to preside over all the violence and theft that goes on 24/7.

Up to 6 months closed. And they are offering employees the opportunity to transfer to other local stores if openings become available.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/retail/wal-mart-to-temporarily-close-its-store-just-east-of/article_b1526752-84d9-5103-9633-95e6c27cd075.html

$10.00 says it never reopens. They built a new one near Catoosa? Is it outside of Tulsa city limits? Cheaper sales tax to increase profit slightly? Nahhhh, Walmart never does anything like that. ::)

I don't know of one near Catoosa.  Unless it's brand new.

But some people in the know (employees) say their supers said the closure was 'indefinite'.  I won't take that bet.  :)

I do know that Wally world in this instance lost a crap load of money, given how much that land was purchased for.

It was mentioned in the comments after the article from TW. I shopped at this one (Admiral)  when it first opened, but after a couple of years I went back to the Albertsons at 21st, didn't make my skin crawl. I thought they paid a big price for that land. Wasn't it owned by the family just south of there, Couch Construction I think?

If it's like some of the other permanent closures like when the open a new super center within a few miles of one of their existing previous generation big stores, it will sit as an empty building until they find a suitable tenant. There was one that I know of that sat empty except for security guards after several break ins to steal copper, for close to five years before a WinCo Foods moved in.

There is still a 'small' supercenter building in Broken Arrow sitting empty.  They have built two nearby since that one closed - one at 71st and 145th - a couple miles west, another on 71st about 225th East Ave - couple miles east.

I don't know of one near Catoosa.  Unless it's brand new.

But some people in the know (employees) say their supers said the closure was 'indefinite'.  I won't take that bet.  :)

I do know that Wally world in this instance lost a crap load of money, given how much that land was purchased for.

It's right across from Hard Rock.

That one is probably the cleanest one in the area (the one at 71st and the Creek Tpk).

It's right across from Hard Rock.

If that's the case, that puts it in Rogers County and maybe not in Catoosa city limits. Something Walmart has been know to do to find cheaper sales taxes.

Then they're not doing it right.  Tulsa effective sales tax is 8.517 percent.  Catoosa sales tax is 9.583.

Ouch.  Rogers County sales tax is almost a full penny higher than Tulsa.

http://www.sale-tax.com/CatoosaOK

My bad, thought it might be less. Cheaper property taxes or sweet heart deal with the tribe?

Found this in someones comments, Tulsa isn't the only location that is having plumbing issues and closing for 6 months........

http://www.mrt.com/news/top_stories/article_58c1eee0-e211-11e4-b32a-6bd71d0d349b.html (http://www.mrt.com/news/top_stories/article_58c1eee0-e211-11e4-b32a-6bd71d0d349b.html)

http://tbo.com/news/business/plumbing-woes-force-brandon-walmart-to-close-6-months-20150413/ (http://tbo.com/news/business/plumbing-woes-force-brandon-walmart-to-close-6-months-20150413/)

http://www.ktre.com/story/28791533/livingston-walmart-closing-for-6-months-laying-off-422 (http://www.ktre.com/story/28791533/livingston-walmart-closing-for-6-months-laying-off-422)


http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/2015/04/13/brandon-walmart-to-close-for-6-months/25733897/ (http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/2015/04/13/brandon-walmart-to-close-for-6-months/25733897/)

Good plumbing in that area.

Seriously they could use one though the success rate of retail in that area is sketchy. Locals like to shop local and unless they involve the community big time it will suffer.

James Enriquez, the city’s public works director, said officials have not been notified of plumbing issues at the store. The company would be required to pull permits before undertaking extensive work.

“If I were a property owner I’d want to make sure my store was closed as little as possible,” Enriquez said. “I would want a permit to be in place the day I was going to close — but we haven’t received anything.”

I hate to see this happen. This store was good for concentrating parking lot crime all in one area.  Talk about convenience!  I guess that means that will be spreading out to other areas now.

There was a news story a few months back about the unusually high numbers of TPD call-outs to this store.

Sure..convenient for those of you who live far away from it.   ;)

Seemed like every weekend I was hearing the Po-Po whirlies overhead at all hours.

It’s been at least five years since the last time I went in there.  I think they must have been filming “Night Of The Living Tweakers” when I was there.

I need a beer and a shower after stepping into the infowars conspiracy theory rabbit hole on this. The collective thought is that it's part of a military drill that is actually a strike against hostile states in the US and the stores, all near railroads are being turned into FEMA camps.

http://www.infowars.com/weird-nationwide-walmart-closures-spark-conspiracy-theories/ (http://www.infowars.com/weird-nationwide-walmart-closures-spark-conspiracy-theories/)

http://www.truthandaction.org/operation-jade-helm-massive-military-drill-across-7-states-unconventional-warfare/ (http://www.truthandaction.org/operation-jade-helm-massive-military-drill-across-7-states-unconventional-warfare/)

My head just imploded from all the craziness...........

Sure..convenient for those of you who live far away from it.   ;)

Seemed like every weekend I was hearing the Po-Po whirlies overhead at all hours.

That was part of the reason I quit shopping there. I think at one time TPD had reserved parking spaces near the doors for their frequent visits. It's also the only one that I can remember that had security cruising the parking lot 24/7.

I hate to see this happen. This store was good for concentrating parking lot crime all in one area.  Talk about convenience!  I guess that means that will be spreading out to other areas now.

There was a news story a few months back about the unusually high numbers of TPD call-outs to this store.

I read somewhere (prior to the announcement of closing) that TPD was called to the location 200 times a month.

Any odds on the South Lewis store springing mysterious leaks?

 And three TPD cruisers parked in front of the north entrance doors.  Not sure why.  

Any odds on the South Lewis store springing mysterious leaks?

An enormous amount of merchandise was walking out of this store on a daily basis...Hence the closure......

That's why the whole "Plumbing" thing is laughable. Just come out and say it. We picked a horrible location in your city. So here's you a gigantic store that we'll let sit empty for 5 plus years. Thank you for shopping at Wal Mart.

Not defending WalMart, but when that store was built, it was a decent area as I lived just down the street.  My neighborhood is still decent.  Just goes to show you what happens to a neighborhood when a Walmart moves in.  Look at the one at 68th and Memorial now..

Another take I have heard, the stores that closed had employees trying to unionize.

With the Mexican flea market one mile to the East doesn't help either. Let alone the sketchy apartment complex across from the old Wal Mart at the traffic circle.

If I was losing 60,000.00 a week in Merchandise....I would shut her down too.....

It is apparent you've never worked retail. Or never paid attention. If they are closing the store it will be emptied quickly. Trucks. Big trucks. Warehouses. Merchandizing teams. Moving teams.

I doubt the union stories. They would have the tacit approval of the city and the state for anything damaging to any union. Unions may no longer have dues withheld from state checks. That should tell you something.

Nah. They're making ready for mass migrations from earthquakes.

The Supreme Court of Canada ruled on Friday that Walmart violated Quebec’s labor code when it closed a store in the province that had become one of the first Walmarts in Canada to unionize. The ruling’s impact on unionization efforts at other Canadian stores may be limited because it took issue with the timing of the closing, in 2005, not the company’s right to shut operations. The court sent the case to an arbitrator to determine appropriate remedies, which will probably include compensation for the 190 workers who lost their jobs. Walmart has said it did not close the store because it was unionized. Quebec, a largely French-speaking province, has traditionally been one of the most labor-friendly jurisdictions in North America. Friday’s ruling found that Walmart had erred in closing the store during a freeze period, which starts when workers file to unionize and ends when they get a contract, go on strike or are locked out. Quebec law limits employers’ ability to change working conditions during the freeze. “Once a union has been certified, you have to negotiate,” said Gilles LeVasseur, a professor and labor expert at the University of Ottawa. The retailer did not immediate respond to a request for comment.

I can see Quebec from my house.

Here’s business insider’s take:

http://www.businessinsider.com/wal-mart-suddenly-closes-stores-2015-4

I heard another story yesterday that they were looking at cutting out a layer of management throughout their system. They also cut about 2500 management jobs at Sam’s back in January.

Target is also laying of home office personnel.  Must be something in the, uh, water?

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/news/2015/03/05/target-layoffs-ceo-brian-cornell-samsclub-2010-wmt.html

I can see Quebec from my house.

Who Knows!

I am guessing not you.

Stretched, but not to the size of Alaska......
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michele-bachmann-the-rapture-is-coming-and-its-obamas-fault/ar-AAboZhG

We need to poll all those who thought she was just the sh*ts and make that list public.

I doubt she understands just what a great thing it would be to be responsible for the rapture. According to scripture only God knows when and how and he has delegated Obama to make it so? Major accomplishment for a Democrat I would say.

Stretched, but not to the size of Alaska......
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michele-bachmann-the-rapture-is-coming-and-its-obamas-fault/ar-AAboZhG

We need to poll all those who thought she was just the sh*ts and make that list public.

I doubt she understands just what a great thing it would be to be responsible for the rapture. According to scripture only God knows when and how and he has delegated Obama to make it so? Major accomplishment for a Democrat I would say.

I think it was an article about the Florida store where they interviewed a store supervisor that had been there for a few years never saw any plumbing issues in the last couple of years.

I think there is a kernel of truth to the union angle, I don't think the theft problem was a real issue, although the Tulsa store seemed to have a higher rate than the others, the amount of theft I think would have to be way higher than what the store was earning per month. The other stores seemed no higher or lower than other stores in those cities according to some of the stories in the news.

I really think that the bigger picture is Walmart is going to change there store system and go to smaller stores and neighborhood markets. The model that Tesco came out with, with the Fresh N Easy stores was a good idea, but they started too many stores, and I don't think the areas they placed the stores were quite ready for the way the stores were run. People were turned off by having to check themselves out and bag their own groceries to save money.

81st and 145th had yellow caution tape in the men's room about 30 minutes ago.  Plumbing broken.  I didn't know they were unionizing way out there...it's Broken Arrow for crying out loud - a veritable bastion of anti-union sentiment as promoted by Rhema and 1st Baptist!!

81st and 145th had yellow caution tape in the men's room about 30 minutes ago.  Plumbing broken.  I didn't know they were unionizing way out there...it's Broken Arrow for crying out loud - a veritable bastion of anti-union sentiment as promoted by Rhema and 1st Baptist!!

I'm sure you mean't 71st and 145th. That one's due for a "plumbing" problem.

A new theory is the staff in the closed WM's were in on thefts and they had a major shrinkage issue.  This wouldn't necessarily be public record.  Cops aren't always called because they may not realize the issue until inventory counts.

A new theory is the staff in the closed WM's were in on thefts and they had a major shrinkage issue.  This wouldn't necessarily be public record.  Cops aren't always called because they may not realize the issue until inventory counts.

A new theory is the staff in the closed WM's were in on thefts and they had a major shrinkage issue.  This wouldn't necessarily be public record.  Cops aren't always called because they may not realize the issue until inventory counts.

Little side note - WMT has been buying back $6 to 7 billion in stock for the last few years - in addition to another $6 to 7 investing in growth.  Great for stockholders in the short term.  They could also use that to give pretty much every employee a $5 an hour raise.  And still be WAY behind Costco!!  But bringing their employees up to nearly a living wage!!  And relieving the rest of us from having to subsidize WMT quite as much as now.

Some of those employee don't put in $5 worth of work.

Some of those employee don't put in $5 worth of work.

People will almost always live up to, or down to your expectations of them.

Its interesting that the new strategy is to lump reports about retaliation for unionizing with absurd conspiracy theories like martial law and UN takeovers, hoping people will dismiss the whole bundled package.

Admiral and Memorial was #2 in shrinkage in Tulsa

I heard it was 81st & Lewis.

Back in the stores 2010 remodel they installed high tech cameras to prevent shrinkage- guess they didn't work that well. The one thing that does connect all 5 closed stores is they all had labor issues or labor disputes, so my guess is that's the reason- they may of had "union talk". I was at the Admiral Burger King last week just west of Wal-Mart  and looked out over  Wal-Mart's lot and it was totally empty except for the security car. It looked strange to see the lot empty.

This is a crazy weird thing. I met a few Wal-Mart workers who transferred to the Owasso store one told me she thinks they will re-open that closed store she thinks Wal-Mart plans to try a new kind of store - "Re-invent Wal-Mart"  in other words and see how it goes. The pressure and growing sales  from on-line retailors means changes need to be made from brick & mortar stores. She said the Admiral store is totally gutted. My question is why would they do it so fast and give no warnings to customers and a few hours warning to workers? I miss the Admiral store it was close to my house and I doubt it will ever re-open.