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Title: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on February 26, 2015, 08:15:16 am
According to this article: http://www.fox23.com/news/news/local/tulsas-tornado-tower-draws-attention-investors/nkJtr/ (http://www.fox23.com/news/news/local/tulsas-tornado-tower-draws-attention-investors/nkJtr/)

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TULSA, Okla. — A new plan has been drawn up to build a tornado in downtown Tulsa.

Tulsa’s Tornado Tower. Those are 3 words we could hear a lot more about in the future as the new project has started to catch the interest of investors.

“It’s getting really good reactions,” said architect Andrew Kinslow.

The architecture firm, Kinslow Keith and Todd Inc. was approached by Tulsa People Magazine to rejuvenate the property that is now a part time parking garage into something else. They came up with the Tornado Tower.

“There’s not client at this point. It’s just a conceptual drawing of what could potentially take place and happen downtown,” Kinslow said.

The tower would rise to 20 to 30 stories and house a severe weather museum. Kinslow said that office space could also be added easily.
“The project is very feasible from all of the expressways in downtown. We thought this would be a very visible location,” Kinslow said.

The proposed design has circulated around social media and Kinslow said the firm’s phone has been ringing off the hook with potential investors wanting to learn more.
- See more at: http://www.fox23.com/news/news/local/tulsas-tornado-tower-draws-attention-investors/nkJtr/#sthash.uniDD2D6.dpuf


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on February 26, 2015, 08:15:54 am
I'm going to say no


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Hoss on February 26, 2015, 08:22:48 am
I'm going to say no

Don't be so sure.  Weirder things have happened.  Look at the Devon Tower.....


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: RecycleMichael on February 26, 2015, 08:49:51 am
I like it. It is unique and eye-catching.

Maybe we could rent out one of the floors for the world headquarters of TulsaNow.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 26, 2015, 08:56:57 am
I like how Fox puts this with the "Meet Russian Women"  Faux News report....


Like the building - now I want one on my place!!



Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: SXSW on February 26, 2015, 10:31:18 am
I know they've discussed building a weather museum in Norman.  It would make more sense there than in Tulsa.  Though a science and nature museum absolutely would be awesome in Tulsa especially downtown.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: AquaMan on February 26, 2015, 10:47:35 am
Odd way to present ourselves to the world. Maybe we should also conceptualize an Earthquake Building with museums describing fracking.  Or at the very least, an oil derrick building.

Cool looking but likely tornado bait.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 26, 2015, 11:00:07 am
Odd way to present ourselves to the world. Maybe we should also conceptualize an Earthquake Building with museums describing fracking.  Or at the very least, an oil derrick building.

Cool looking but likely tornado bait.


We have the golden driller.  That with buildings downtown and the museums we got from oil money, is probably enough nostalgia about our oil past....


Can always use more tornado bait...




Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: rdj on February 26, 2015, 12:00:24 pm
I say build this along with the BFI in south downtown on those surface lots.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Townsend on February 26, 2015, 12:28:14 pm
Odd way to present ourselves to the world. Maybe we should also conceptualize an Earthquake Building with museums describing fracking. 

Already have one at 4th and Main


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: TheArtist on February 26, 2015, 12:58:28 pm
 I like it.  Would make a great visitor center.  Though we don't get as many tornadoes anymore with the weather patterns shifting more towards the Mississippi River Valley (knock on wood) the plains states are still known for tornadoes. Kinda like Tulsa and Art deco, though a dozen other cites probably now have more than we do (after tearing most of it down here) we can still bluff our way to pretending like we are an "art deco center".  Kinda sorta until the tourists start asking nosy questions like... "Ummm, where is the rest of it?", and I am like, "Well...." .


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on February 26, 2015, 02:37:31 pm
I say build this along with the BFI in south downtown on those surface lots.

What is the BFI?


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: BKDotCom on February 26, 2015, 07:36:21 pm
What is the BFI?

BFI = Big Indian

Where is this tornado going?  The article says the property is currently a "part-time parking garage"
I think a part-time parking garage sounds just as interesting.  What is it when it's not a parking garage?


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Breadburner on February 26, 2015, 08:06:45 pm
Not gonna happen.....


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: sgrizzle on February 26, 2015, 09:22:17 pm
This whole design was done as just a "wacky idea" but supposedly people are throwing money it's direction now. Who knows.

I prefer it to be built elsewhere downtown. Maybe east side.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: BuiltRight on February 27, 2015, 08:23:46 am
BFI = Big Indian

Where is this tornado going?  The article says the property is currently a "part-time parking garage"
I think a part-time parking garage sounds just as interesting.  What is it when it's not a parking garage?

Its locations was shown as the corner of 2nd and Guthrie behind the BOK. The design was a feature in the Tulsa People March Edition on "Reimagining Downtown" there are also two other potential projects highlighted as well as some ongoing ones. To see full digital edition click the link. The Reimagining Downtown starts on pg 42.

http://issuu.com/tulsapeople/docs/tp_0315ds/1 (http://issuu.com/tulsapeople/docs/tp_0315ds/1)


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on February 27, 2015, 08:47:07 am
I think someone needs to see if Andrew Kinslow has been to Colorado lately........


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Ibanez on February 27, 2015, 08:55:23 am
I don't know why, but I love it.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: TheArtist on February 27, 2015, 09:15:13 am
BFI = Big Indian

The article says the property is currently a "part-time parking garage"
I think a part-time parking garage sounds just as interesting.  What is it when it's not a parking garage?

Part-time high-rise skate boarding rink.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on February 27, 2015, 10:11:01 am
Put a waterslide that wraps around the outside and charge $10.00 per trip down. In the winter time, turn it into a bobsled run .  ;D


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Weatherdemon on February 27, 2015, 10:23:48 am
I don't know why, but I love it.

Yea!
Pretty kick azz if you ask me!


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Townsend on February 27, 2015, 12:29:11 pm
I like it.  It'd be a lasting international image for Tulsa.

(http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2015/02/26/58/42/tornado.jpg)


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Conan71 on February 27, 2015, 12:50:01 pm
Couldn’t we wrap the Prayer Tower at ORU in visqueen in a tapered pattern and accomplish the same effect?


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: ZYX on February 27, 2015, 01:21:52 pm
I like it. Visitors, even people just passing through on the highway, would have something to remember Tulsa by.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: DolfanBob on February 27, 2015, 01:49:04 pm
Looks like an Ice Cream Cone. No thanks.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on February 27, 2015, 02:50:03 pm
Couldn’t we wrap the Prayer Tower at ORU in visqueen in a tapered pattern and accomplish the same effect?

WINNER!!!! Also put a red Dodge pickup with mannequins of Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt with a cow flying around them!


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Ibanez on February 27, 2015, 03:17:07 pm
Just not a fan of the proposed location. Put over in the Blue Domeish area somewhere....or tear down the Borden Dairy and put it there. I hate that the dairy and the jail occupy the West end of the Brady District.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: rdj on February 27, 2015, 03:52:10 pm
A glass tower overlooking the jail and the social service epicenter.  I can see the dinner parties overlooking the downtrodden now.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120501103009/thehungergames/images/f/f2/Capitol-dinner-the-hunger-games-movie-28914295-1234-673.jpg)


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: DowntownDan on February 27, 2015, 04:30:44 pm
I like it.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: BKDotCom on February 28, 2015, 09:49:49 am
A glass tower overlooking the jail and the social service epicenter.  I can see the dinner parties overlooking the downtrodden now.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120501103009/thehungergames/images/f/f2/Capitol-dinner-the-hunger-games-movie-28914295-1234-673.jpg)

And http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1535108/
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNDc2NjU0MTcwNV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjg4MDg2OQ@@._V1_SX214_AL_.jpg)


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Jeff P on March 02, 2015, 11:33:20 am
I like it.  Would make a great visitor center.  Though we don't get as many tornadoes anymore with the weather patterns shifting more towards the Mississippi River Valley (knock on wood) the plains states are still known for tornadoes.

I sort of can't help myself but go all "weather stat nerd" here...  :)

While 2014 was a "down year" for tornadoes in Oklahoma, there isn't any long-term trend that shows them decreasing in frequency in the state.

In fact, 2010 and 2011 were two of the most active tornado years on record, with 103 and 119, respectively. The average number per year since 1950 is 55.  Last year was the first in the past 5 years that we haven't exceeded that number.

Tornado stats: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/?n=tornadodata-ok-monthlyannual



Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: TheArtist on March 02, 2015, 01:38:51 pm
I sort of can't help myself but go all "weather stat nerd" here...  :)

While 2014 was a "down year" for tornadoes in Oklahoma, there isn't any long-term trend that shows them decreasing in frequency in the state.

In fact, 2010 and 2011 were two of the most active tornado years on record, with 103 and 119, respectively. The average number per year since 1950 is 55.  Last year was the first in the past 5 years that we haven't exceeded that number.

Tornado stats: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/?n=tornadodata-ok-monthlyannual



Well color me corrected.  Seems I used to hear about them more when I was a kid and haven't heard of many, at least in the Tulsa area, lately.   But do hear more about them cropping up to our east where the news paints them as being rare and unexpected. 

Don't see or hear about them in the Tulsa or OKC area as much, do hear about them being surprised by them further east.  Shows how a limited perception can be wrong.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: guido911 on March 02, 2015, 04:31:04 pm
I think the tornado tower would be a huge attraction for the Joplin, MO. and Moore, OK crowd.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Townsend on March 02, 2015, 04:49:36 pm
For full effect, the jail and surrounding bail bonds building should be turned to rubble and left as a "path of destruction" display.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: AquaMan on March 02, 2015, 05:59:52 pm
Great thought.

Anyone else think it might look good next to the Arena (often referred to as a squashed QT coffee cup)? A sort of before and after thing?


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: carltonplace on March 03, 2015, 08:30:50 am
Stick a cow in it and a pick up truck and I'm in.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Ibanez on March 06, 2015, 02:56:08 pm
We have to build this thing now!!

Genius Architects Want to Build a Tornado-Shaped Tower in Oklahoma (http://thevane.gawker.com/genius-architects-want-to-build-a-tornado-shaped-skyscr-1689889160/+dennismersereau)


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: BKDotCom on March 06, 2015, 03:50:22 pm
We have to build this thing now!!

Genius Architects Want to Build a Tornado-Shaped Tower in Oklahoma (http://thevane.gawker.com/genius-architects-want-to-build-a-tornado-shaped-skyscr-1689889160/+dennismersereau)

Kitschy Big Indian = dud
Tornado Tower = destination


Title: Re:
Post by: Ed W on March 08, 2015, 06:04:46 pm
How about kitschy big indian HOLDING a tornado tower like an ice cream cone?


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: swake on May 02, 2015, 10:45:54 pm
Kinslow Keith and Todd say they have investors from around the world wanting to be part of the Tornado Tower, they are now actively scouting locations and believe there is a 70-80% chance they will get it done.

http://kfor.com/2015/04/30/investors-worldwide-are-interested-in-the-tulsa-tornado-tower/

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/proposed-tulsa-tornado-tower-might-actually-happen/nk6X9/


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Hoss on May 03, 2015, 12:09:00 am
Kinslow Keith and Todd say they have investors from around the world wanting to be part of the Tornado Tower, they are now actively scouting locations and believe there is a 70-80% chance they will get it done.

http://kfor.com/2015/04/30/investors-worldwide-are-interested-in-the-tulsa-tornado-tower/

http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/proposed-tulsa-tornado-tower-might-actually-happen/nk6X9/

Oh hell, this smells of "The American"....


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Breadburner on May 03, 2015, 07:31:33 am
Oh hell, this smells of "The American"....

Thats what I thought.....Trying to hype it up.....


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: cannon_fodder on May 03, 2015, 07:40:36 am
The American is exactly what I thought. The price of bronze has crashed, where is that thing?

But... Like the American, I hope it happens. Private investment, interesting concept. Add several things like this to an already fun town and you start drawing people for day trips, conventions are easier to land, etc. Strange to think a Tornado Tower would sway a business convention or shareholder meeting, but everything that makes a town seem worth visiting adds together.

Hope it happens. Would generating some serious buzz.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: charky on May 03, 2015, 03:17:16 pm
If it's built then I hope they make room for the NWS. Our office is alright...but I'm tired of area (11th/169) and we're one of the few offices in the country that doesn't have it's own independent structure.

There's a chance we'll move to the OU campus at 41st/Yale in a couple of years. At least that's the rumor.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Hoss on May 03, 2015, 03:51:23 pm
If it's built then I hope they make room for the NWS. Our office is alright...but I'm tired of area (11th/169) and we're one of the few offices in the country that doesn't have it's own independent structure.

There's a chance we'll move to the OU campus at 41st/Yale in a couple of years. At least that's the rumor.

I remember you guys being at a building much closer to the airport (Apache/Sheridan?) when I took my first tour in second grade.  A year after June 8 1974 for me.  It was fascinating.  Never been to the one at 11th/169 but live close.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: SXSW on May 03, 2015, 04:25:57 pm
If something like this was built where would you want to see it downtown? 


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: charky on May 03, 2015, 06:09:24 pm
I remember you guys being at a building much closer to the airport (Apache/Sheridan?) when I took my first tour in second grade.  A year after June 8 1974 for me.  It was fascinating.  Never been to the one at 11th/169 but live close.

It was at the airport until '93...I got here in '94. We're in the 6-story office building next to the Red Cross. Have to say we have a great view to the west from the 3rd floor.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Ibanez on May 04, 2015, 12:49:19 pm
If something like this was built where would you want to see it downtown? 
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How about between 1st & 2nd between Elgin & Greenwood?


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: SXSW on May 04, 2015, 01:03:00 pm
How about between 1st & 2nd between Elgin & Greenwood?

Instead of this office building?  It's already curved.   :)
(http://s1.postimg.org/okq9503ny/downtown2.jpg)


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: cannon_fodder on May 04, 2015, 01:57:44 pm
It needs a view of weather rolling in from the west.

#1) Surface parking west side of Cheyenne between 7th and 8th. Just west of 110 w. 7th Building. Northwest of the Cathedral.

Or

2) surface parking lots near TCC on or just off of Boston, probably somewhere between 8th and 10th (west view, keeps Boston continuity, maybe retracts urban blight award). Assuming a 1/2 to 1/4 block development... Several choices in there.

Blue dome needs housing and small business spaces, not large office complexes IMHO.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: carltonplace on May 05, 2015, 10:49:32 am
I wonder if a tornado tower would attract or repel tornados...unsure of whether they are solitary or pack mentality.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Ibanez on May 05, 2015, 12:10:47 pm
Instead of this office building?  It's already curved.   :)
(http://s1.postimg.org/okq9503ny/downtown2.jpg)

Doh! Must have missed that.


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 05, 2015, 04:17:52 pm
I wonder if a tornado tower would attract or repel tornados...unsure of whether they are solitary or pack mentality.


Not sure, but the Warren theater in Moore has 'deflected' two tornadoes with minimal damage - one in 2013 and another several weeks ago.



Edit:

Maybe look at why Warren does it and see if the tower could benefit...


Title: Re: Tulsa’s Tornado Tower
Post by: Noodlez on May 06, 2015, 01:16:41 pm
If something like this was built where would you want to see it downtown? 

In the highly unlikely event, I'd like to see the jail and day center and stuff moved and it placed there. Yeah that's not gonna happen.  Or maybe in a spot next to the railroad tracks kinda near the ball park and have a train depot in it also. Of course that needs rail service and well...