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Title: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: patric on December 04, 2014, 01:19:43 pm
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-12-04/why-oklahoma-city-gets-2-gasoline-before-the-rest-of-us

(http://www.bloomberg.com/image/incW57w6maWc.jpg)


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 04, 2014, 01:35:05 pm
I filled up at a Love's on I-35 a few days ago at $2.27.  Feeling ripped off now....


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: Hoss on December 04, 2014, 02:26:49 pm
I'm guessing that's part of some kind of price war going on, gauging from the amount of traffic in the gas pump area.


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: patric on December 04, 2014, 02:49:10 pm
I'm guessing that's part of some kind of price war going on, gauging from the amount of traffic in the gas pump area.

I might expect the QT at Utica and 11th to fall in line soon.   Any bets on that?


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: Breadburner on December 04, 2014, 04:39:59 pm
That was just smart marketing......


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: Conan71 on December 05, 2014, 10:04:23 am
Paid $2.19 in the 7000 block of North Western in OKC last night.  Apparently the $1.99 was down south.  I wasn’t going to drive 20 miles out of my way to save a couple of bucks.


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: carltonplace on December 05, 2014, 10:09:17 am
Thanks Governor Fallin!!! Nice job on getting us cheap gas!


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 05, 2014, 10:15:20 am
Thanks Governor Fallin!!! Nice job on getting us cheap gas!


That's funny!!   Love it...


I filled up this morning at Love's in south OKC at $2.19.  Can't get over to where the cheap stuff is!



Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: Conan71 on December 05, 2014, 10:37:13 am
Thanks Governor Fallin!!! Nice job on getting us cheap gas!

Should we now refer to you as CarlKraut?  ;D


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 10, 2014, 01:34:15 pm
Wholesale gas in Tulsa is currently around $1.95.  Retailers usually at ~10 cents plus taxes and CC fees. WE are seeing as lightly wider range than that right now in Tulsa... probably QT padding profits after taking tight margins as prices rose.


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 12, 2014, 09:48:43 am
Duo at SW 59th and Blackwelder in OKC shows display of $1.89 a gallon.  Made the morning news....but it's fake - they aren't open and aren't selling any gas.

So I filled up at 7/11 for $1.99 about half hour ago...


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: Townsend on December 12, 2014, 12:21:33 pm
Is there still an abandoned gas sign on 31st between Yale and Harvard with $1.68 on it?


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: cannon_fodder on December 12, 2014, 12:28:58 pm
Is there still an abandoned gas sign on 31st between Yale and Harvard with $1.68 on it?

They tore the station down many moons ago, but the sign was sill up until recently.  The lot has been purchased and I believed they tore down the sign finally.  Think a Fiesta Mart is "Coming soon."


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: Townsend on December 12, 2014, 12:35:50 pm
Think a Fiesta Mart is "Coming soon."

I think I saw that sign many moons ago.


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 14, 2014, 06:53:07 pm
Is there still an abandoned gas sign on 31st between Yale and Harvard with $1.68 on it?


This one wasn't abandoned, just not open for business at 8:00 am.  I think they posted that as a "spoiler" for the competition all around them.  There were 4 other stores within half a mile that were selling for $1.99.



Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: carltonplace on December 15, 2014, 09:09:55 am
If the price of oil keeps dropping it could be very bad for our state government budget. 


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 15, 2014, 09:53:48 am
If the price of oil keeps dropping it could be very bad for our state government budget. 


That's ok.... at least the very top bracket got their quarter percent tax cut!  That's what's important, after all....


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: rebound on December 15, 2014, 10:55:33 am
On Cue in Moore off I-35 was at 1.92 yesterday.


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: Conan71 on December 15, 2014, 11:41:58 am
I saw $1.99 gas in Norman Saturday, that was after I’d filled for $2.09.


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on December 15, 2014, 12:45:58 pm
Trying to find the story, there was a blurb on one of Bloomberg TV's crawlers that said the Saudis wont think about changing there production until oil hits $40.00/barrel.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/oil-will-hit-40-per-barrel-saxena-Jqjp6ZYgT_yI5TcB7XTMaw.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/video/oil-will-hit-40-per-barrel-saxena-Jqjp6ZYgT_yI5TcB7XTMaw.html)



Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: Townsend on December 15, 2014, 01:04:35 pm
Trying to find the story, there was a blurb on one of Bloomberg TV's crawlers that said the Saudis wont think about changing there production until oil hits $40.00/barrel.

Sounds like Oklahoma and a few other states might want to look into diversification.



Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on December 15, 2014, 01:28:49 pm
I'm wondering if we are seeing a replay of the 80's oil busted starting. When oil was recently at $100/bbl that was the equivalent of $35/bbl in 1980. We are currently at the equivalent of 1986 oil prices of $27/bbl.

I know it's from wiki, but it's interesting that the US started ramping up production after the oil crisis of the 70's only to have OPEC feel threatened so they flooded the market and shut down most oil production in the US. (marginal producers especially)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980s_oil_glut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980s_oil_glut)


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: rebound on December 15, 2014, 01:34:18 pm
I saw $1.99 gas in Norman Saturday, that was after I’d filled for $2.09.

I filled up in Norman for $1.99, and then saw the $1.92 in Moore later...


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 15, 2014, 01:40:14 pm
I filled up in Norman for $1.99, and then saw the $1.92 in Moore later...


Bought some at $1.97 an hour ago.  Will be in Norman later on a quest for a rumored $1.79 gallon.



Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: carltonplace on December 15, 2014, 03:28:30 pm
Trying to find the story, there was a blurb on one of Bloomberg TV's crawlers that said the Saudis wont think about changing there production until oil hits $40.00/barrel.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/oil-will-hit-40-per-barrel-saxena-Jqjp6ZYgT_yI5TcB7XTMaw.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/video/oil-will-hit-40-per-barrel-saxena-Jqjp6ZYgT_yI5TcB7XTMaw.html)



That is cheaper than barrel:
SKOLNIK Carbon Steel Open Head Drum, 55 gallons, Bolt Ring, 1.2mm Body Gauge (Pack of 1)

by Skolnik $78.39





Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: patric on May 25, 2016, 02:37:53 pm
In Tulsa, prices at QuikTrip, Kum & Go and other stations rose to $2.11 a gallon early Wednesday, according to Gasbuddy.com.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/consumer/tulsa-gas-prices-jump-ahead-of-memorial-day-weekend/article_4a315e02-2d52-5f9a-babe-8beb15025f45.html


Well yes and no.  QT raises the prices first (usually by at least a dime but sometimes 15-16 cents like yesterday) but Kum & Go didnt match that until last night.



Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: cannon_fodder on May 26, 2016, 07:11:30 am
Even the Federal Reserve Acknowledges the "Quiktrip Effect." Basically, they are the market force and get to set the price on a whim. So they use their power to spike prices with little regard for wholesale prices, then trickle the price back down. When it gets too close to wholesale prices again, they spike the price.

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They tend to shoot up overnight — often by 10 percent or more — then decline slowly, penny by penny, over the following days. The pattern then repeats, even when prices nationally are holding steady. Economists call it an “Edgeworth price cycle,” and it shows up in a few American cities, mainly in the Midwest.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/fed-economists-confirm-quiktrip-effect-on-gas-prices-in-st/article_515bf2c0-8b18-5f5a-9936-acbc419bb853.html

Makes sense, a pattern of price spikes almost always followed by falling prices isn't normal market behavior.  Buy your gas on Wednesday and you usually will win the game. To the tune of $60 a year for an average driver if you fill up in a QT market.


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 26, 2016, 07:33:16 am
On Cue in Moore off I-35 was at 1.92 yesterday.


Up to $1.95 about 15 minutes ago - 4th street....slowly creeping up.  Wild ride since 2014....

Yeah, I'm stuck here again today!  Getting out early this afternoon!!



Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: DTowner on May 26, 2016, 08:31:27 am
Even if the “QuikTrip Effect” is real (QT denies it), I don’t think a price jump a few days before the first big driving holiday weekend of the year proves much.  A quick search indicates gas prices jumped all over the country, even in cities without QT.  You should always fill up before Wednesday of a summer holiday week.


Title: Re: Gas at $1.99 in OKC
Post by: Conan71 on May 26, 2016, 09:43:38 am
Even the Federal Reserve Acknowledges the "Quiktrip Effect." Basically, they are the market force and get to set the price on a whim. So they use their power to spike prices with little regard for wholesale prices, then trickle the price back down. When it gets too close to wholesale prices again, they spike the price.

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/fed-economists-confirm-quiktrip-effect-on-gas-prices-in-st/article_515bf2c0-8b18-5f5a-9936-acbc419bb853.html

Makes sense, a pattern of price spikes almost always followed by falling prices isn't normal market behavior.  Buy your gas on Wednesday and you usually will win the game. To the tune of $60 a year for an average driver if you fill up in a QT market.

This was a trick we finally learned up around Salida and Leadville, Colorado last summer.  They spike the prices on the weekends to nail the tourist traffic and the locals know to fill up mid-week.