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Title: PlaniTulsa Post by: johrasephoenix on October 02, 2014, 12:11:54 pm Is PlaniTulsa dead? What happened to it? I feel like we put in an enormous amount of work on it and then it was just dropped stone dead. I almost never hear it mentioned anymore, especially not by city leadership.
Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: Townsend on October 02, 2014, 12:27:26 pm Is PlaniTulsa dead? What happened to it? I feel like we put in an enormous amount of work on it and then it was just dropped stone dead. I almost never hear it mentioned anymore, especially not by city leadership. From what I was told it's been shelved in a dark and dusty place. Quote I feel like we put in an enormous amount of work on it and then it was just dropped stone dead. IndeedTitle: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: Hoss on October 02, 2014, 12:31:07 pm Evidently it burned up along with the cell phone in Dooey's pocket.
Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: carltonplace on October 02, 2014, 01:51:16 pm During the last Mayoral Race his honor stated straight out that he does not support increased density and that Tulsa should naturally expand to its borders.
I'm not sure what he thinks happens once there is no more room to grow outward. As long as he is in office, PlaniTulsa is indeed dead...and unfortunately a great many developers like it that way. Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: sgrizzle on October 02, 2014, 05:16:08 pm Right now PlaniTulsa is in the middle of the zoning code update phase. Some new designations are being added such as mixed-use.
It is not dead nor shelved, but it is not being pursued with much fervor since Dewey took office and it was a Kathy project. Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: TheArtist on October 02, 2014, 06:50:48 pm According to the timeline it was indeed supposed to be done and implemented by now. Other cities have started and implemented theirs during the time we have gotten "in the middle of..." ours. Meanwhile more non-pedestrian/transit friendly crap is going into areas that are supposed to eventually be pedestrian/transit friendly, thus further hurting PlaniTulsa's aims for those areas.
Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: Townsend on October 02, 2014, 10:39:29 pm Right now PlaniTulsa is in the middle of the zoning code update phase. Some new designations are being added such as mixed-use. It is not dead nor shelved, but it is not being pursued with much fervor since Dewey took office and it was a Kathy project. Sounds shelved. Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: davideinstein on October 03, 2014, 03:28:15 pm Pitiful this has not been more aggressively pursued.
Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: swake on October 03, 2014, 03:57:50 pm Pitiful this has not been more aggressively pursued. Elections have consequences. Tulsa wanted Dewey, Tulsa got Dewey. Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: TheArtist on October 03, 2014, 06:19:50 pm Pitiful this has not been more aggressively pursued. There sure seems to be ever more city employees, time, and money aggressively pursuing "water in the river" Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: guido911 on October 25, 2014, 10:42:26 pm During the last Mayoral Race his honor stated straight out that he does not support increased density and that Tulsa should naturally expand to its borders. I'm not sure what he thinks happens once there is no more room to grow outward. As long as he is in office, PlaniTulsa is indeed dead...and unfortunately a great many developers like it that way. How does PlaniTulsa benefit South Tulsa? Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: TulsaRufnex on October 26, 2014, 11:22:03 am How does PlaniTulsa benefit South Tulsa? Hopefully, it will strategically pave the way to offer residents more options than the same collections of cookie-cutter housing developments and Ugly-As-Sin-On-Sunday strip malls. We have plenty of those already. Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: SXSW on October 26, 2014, 02:40:48 pm There sure seems to be ever more city employees, time, and money aggressively pursuing "water in the river" That is Dewey's "vision". PlaniTulsa died when Dewey was first elected, and then reelected. Hopefully there is a future mayor who can carry that torch in the future. We could've been ahead of many other cities with this but now we're behind and will be playing catch up, just like the city has been doing for 20 years... Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: TulsaRufnex on October 30, 2014, 07:07:09 pm I fear that if Dewey ever gets his wish for "water in the river," we won't actually get water.... just thousands of orange cones. ;D
Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: Red Arrow on October 30, 2014, 07:40:04 pm I fear that if Dewey ever gets his wish for "water in the river," we won't actually get water.... just thousands of orange cones. ;D I kind of remember KRMG releasing hundreds (thousands?) of small floating objects during the Great Raft Races. Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: Conan71 on October 30, 2014, 08:12:08 pm I fear that if Dewey ever gets his wish for "water in the river," we won't actually get water.... just thousands of orange cones. ;D Good one! Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on October 31, 2014, 01:06:41 am I kind of remember KRMG releasing hundreds (thousands?) of small floating objects during the Great Raft Races. I remember the first event, and by the time the first floaters/paddlers got to the pedestrian bridge they ran out of water to float their crafts. Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: Red Arrow on October 31, 2014, 06:28:32 am I remember the first event, and by the time the first floaters/paddlers got to the pedestrian bridge they ran out of water to float their crafts. I was thinking they released things other than rafts. I kind of remember them as being something small the rafters could grab as "trophy". There may have been some marked to redeem for a prize of some sort but I'm not sure about that. Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: dbacksfan 2.0 on October 31, 2014, 10:47:50 am I was thinking they released things other than rafts. I kind of remember them as being something small the rafters could grab as "trophy". There may have been some marked to redeem for a prize of some sort but I'm not sure about that. Was it something like a duck race as well as whatever else was "floating" in the river at that time? Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: TheArtist on October 31, 2014, 12:19:15 pm I think they released hundreds of yellow rubber duckies and there were some different colored ones that you snagged for a prize.
Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 31, 2014, 01:56:09 pm I fear that if Dewey ever gets his wish for "water in the river," we won't actually get water.... just thousands of orange cones. ;D Ain't that the truth!! Like we don't have enough of them already..... Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: PonderInc on November 14, 2014, 01:03:42 pm How does PlaniTulsa benefit South Tulsa? If PlaniTulsa were really implemented with gusto, we would have increased density, mixed-use forms, redevelopment of underutilized (but already paved) spaces, strategic private/public partnerships, improved walkability/transit....South Tulsa (and every Tulsan) would get all the benefits of an increased tax base and a more efficient and economically viable city: better schools, better roads, better jobs, better mobility options, better cultural attractions, increased opportunity, increased services, better parks, greater diversity, improved public safety, improved public health outcomes... Alternatively, there's the status quo. Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: TheArtist on November 14, 2014, 06:19:21 pm I am still really curious about the process. I thought I remember something about it being implemented after the small area plans are done. Now they are taking more "requests for proposals" for the next round of small area plans. I looked at the process, thought of entering in the area around 41st and Yale and perhaps up Yale. Dug into what was involved and it looked like a loooooong process that I couldn't possibly spend that much time on unfortunately. Looked like this next round could easily take a few years... and then what after that, another round of small area planing?
Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: Tulsasaurus Rex on March 20, 2015, 08:56:38 am Quote from: KOKI The Tulsa Development Authority is partnering with Houseal Lavigne, an urban planning firm, to begin sector planning for North Tulsa and Kendall Whittier. These sector plans will be blueprints the city will use for the next 10-20 years to help guide public investment and private development. The plans will result from this effort will build upon PlaniTulsa, the City's community-wide plan. Plans will include specific guidance regarding potential improvements to housing, commercial areas, open spaces and infrastructure. The North Tulsa Neighborhoods Plan will be a sector plan for an area bound by I-244, Tisdale Parkway, Gilcrease Expressway and the Cherokee Expressway. Another sector plan will include the Kendall Whittier neighborhood. Where & When: Kendall Whittier planning meetings Residents: Circle Cinema 10 S. Lewis Ave., Tulsa, OK March 23 6-8 p.m. Businesses: Circle Cinema 10 S. Lewis Ave., Tulsa, OK March 24 8-10 a.m. North Tulsa planning meetings Residents: Rudisill Regional Library 1520 N. Hartford Ave., Tulsa, OK March 24 6-8 p.m. Businesses: Morton Comprehensive Health Services 1334 N. Lansing Ave., Tulsa, OK Wednesday, March 25 8-10 a.m. http://www.fox23.com/news/news/local/meetings-talk-about-north-tulsa-plans/nkZw5/ Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: PonderInc on March 24, 2015, 05:01:51 pm Just FYI, the Kendall Whittier and North Tulsa workshops shown above are "Sector Plans" which are initiated by the Tulsa Development Authority. This is different than the City's comprehensive plan.
Title: Re: PlaniTulsa Post by: TheArtist on March 24, 2015, 06:43:13 pm So I am wondering about these "Sector Plans" and "Small area Plans" is...
In a nutshell. These are basically ideas for what people would like to see in the area. These ideas are then made to be "allowable" in the New Comprehesive Plan. But allowable only if they meet such and such requirements (100% of the people in the area agree for example) and jump through these hurdles.... and after you do A, B, C, D... during which at any time the whole thing can be put off indefinitely, or watered back down to irrelevancy by those who want to fight against it. Am I right? |