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Well most now know that in the Dallas area the first case has been diagnosed in this country. No need to harp on how relatively close to Tulsa this is. I am surprised that it still managed to reach this country. Tingles has weighed in, so you know we nearly had a spittle situation.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/chris_matthews_vs_ezekiel_emanuel_on_ebola_obama_said_it_was_unlikely_it_has_happened_its_here.html

Spent a couple days in Dallas last week.  Drove up highway 75, by the Presby hospital and stopped at In & Out Burger in the area to eat - just south of Caruth Haven Lane.  Counting the days.... 21 isn't it??

10 for Ebola, then a headshot is the only remedy.

10 for Ebola, then a headshot is the only remedy.

We're all set.  Went out and stocked up as soon as the president announced that the possibility of Ebola in the US was remote.
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ThinkProgress is already using it to push Obamacare as the salvation.  USA Today is now reporting a possible second case.  Only a matter of time until Ebola becomes more politics than disease. 

The hospital let the patient go.

 

I'm sorry about the source for this development, because Hot Air is obviously biased and cannot report. But this is just too perfect.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/02/flashback-senator-obama-rips-bush-for-being-unprepared-for-avian-flu-epidemic/

They are always running against each other.

You may now carry on with your silly reality challenged hysterics over that awful black man in the White House.

If we are taking this so serious, why are we allowing travel to and from countries currently impacted by Ebola?  Just now trending is a Nigerian with ebola-like symptoms who is being evaluated at a D.C. area hospital.

The cavalier attitude toward lax immigration policy has very real consequences.

You may now carry on with your silly reality challenged hysterics over that awful black man in the White House.

Ebola hasn’t killed anyone in the United States

Screw you and your racism allegations. Jack@ss.

If we are taking this so serious, why are we allowing travel to and from countries currently impacted by Ebola?  Just now trending is a Nigerian with ebola-like symptoms who is being evaluated at a D.C. area hospital.

The cavalier attitude toward lax immigration policy has very real consequences.

If I may play the devil's advocate; there were likely doctors in Haskell County Kansas saying something similar in 1918.

Hysterics arent helpful, but what is hurting us is complacency and negligence.

Catchy comeback....


Come on, guido, I have seen you do better!  So do it!!  Take a few deep breaths, exhale slowly...pause to reflect and then write.  It seems like you are getting too caught up in the trivia and minutia of day to day activities.  Take a short break....have a few 'yoga' moments....then resume!

Because former president Bush was just gawd awful about helping Africa deal with disease. And it's the GOP's fault that Obama said Ebola hitting this country was "unlikely" just two weeks ago. But perhaps the GOP's funding obstinacy just coincidentally happened in the past 2 weeks. And it's the GOP's that controls immigration. Blah blah blah.

Why would you ban travel from Nigeria anyway, they had a total of 19 confirmed cases in a country of 175 million people with no new cases in the last 30 days.

Him being checked IS being cautious. Very cautious.

Stop the panic and outrage machine.

Every epidemic starts small, swake, including influenza.  One way to stop it’s spread is to restrict where your citizens travel and who you allow in from foreign countries.

No panic and outrage here, it’s a simple and obvious precaution which is being ignored.

Again, 175 million people, 19 cases of Ebola and no new ones in the last 30 days? Close that boarder? Now that we have a case should Europe and Canada close our borders? By your logic should all other countries close their boarders with us anyway because of our problems with Flu?

Ebola is a terrible disease that is striking poor countries with poor sanitation and poor medical care. We are not that. Stop with the panic. Ebola only spreads when a person comes into contact with an infected person's bodily fluids and only for one week while they are showing symptoms. 

Anyway, the three most impacted countries have 22 million people with 7,157 cases of Ebola so far, so .033% of those countries populations are infected. These aren't big numbers, yet.

Again, 175 million people, 19 cases of Ebola and no new ones in the last 30 days? Close that boarder? Now that we have a case should Europe and Canada close our borders? By your logic should all other countries close their boarders with us anyway because of our problems with Flu?

Ebola is a terrible disease that is striking poor countries with poor sanitation and poor medical care. We are not that. Stop with the panic. Ebola only spreads when a person comes into contact with an infected person's bodily fluids and only for one week while they are showing symptoms. 

Anyway, the three most impacted countries have 22 million people with 7,157 cases of Ebola so far, so .033% of those countries populations are infected. These aren't big numbers, yet.

I once thought I had West Nile Virus. It turned out to be Senile Virus.

No need. I have maxed out with the likes of you and your racism BS.

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I don't have any racism BS.  It's just certain parts of the populace that have that....

Not meant for you.  :-[

But they can be.  So you favor allowing possibly infected people into the U.S. from Liberia as well?  Here’s the problem: with an incubation period of up to 21 days, there could be many people walking around with the disease who have no idea they have it. 

Average incubation this go round is 4-6 days and this is day 6 of this guy being in the hospital in isolation. So far so good that no one else is ill. I am a bit surprised at this with his projectile vomiting all over his family and friends, but it's good news they aren't sick yet. It's looking like he may well be an isolated case.

Cool, so you’d have no problem taking your family on vacation to Nigeria or Liberia?

Information is the antidote for fear. As yet, there is no known antidote for stupidity.

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http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/10/02/352983774/no-seriously-how-contagious-is-ebola?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=202402 (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2014/10/02/352983774/no-seriously-how-contagious-is-ebola?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=202402)

Cool, so you’d have no problem taking your family on vacation to Nigeria or Liberia?

It's ten days since this guy became contagious, why isn't there a massive outbreak yet? The average incubation period is 4-6 days and the man in Dallas was sick after 9 days.

So then what is the up to 21 days number I've heard?

CDC says it, so media outlets will probably use it.
Note that they say the average symptomatic time is 8-10 days.

So then what is the up to 21 days number I've heard?

21 days is the maximum incubation period that has been seen. Once an exposed person passes 21 days they can be considered in the clear. Average is 4-6 days.

It's ten days since this guy became contagious, why isn't there a massive outbreak yet? The average incubation period is 4-6 days and the man in Dallas was sick after 9 days. Where are the other sick people, shouldn't SOMEONE have gotten sick yet?

If you listened to right wing radio and Newscorp non-news machine you'd think that the world is ending and it's all Obama's fault when so far there is exactly ONE case of Ebola and it keeps not spreading.

What's more, no one that has been brought out of Africa to be cared for in western countries has died. None, all recovered. Those American healthcare workers that The Toupee and Fox wanted kept out of the US because they were going to spread the disease and kill us all? All have been cured and no one else was infected.

Fox/Newscorp/Rush/Clear Channel are all lying to you. They are spreading fear because it makes them money. Quit being so damn gullible.  

Meanwhile, health officials had narrowed the pool of people who were at a risk of exposure in Dallas — because they had contact with Mr. Duncan while he was infectious — to nine, all of whom were being closely monitored.

Initially, officials reached out to 114 people in the Dallas area who potentially had direct or indirect contact with Mr. Duncan after he arrived in the city on Sept. 20. They have reduced that number to about 50 — the nine at high risk because they had definite contact with Mr. Duncan and about 40 others considered at lower risk.

“We don’t know that they had contact, but because we’re not certain that they did not have contact, we will be monitoring them as well,” said Dr. Frieden. Some of those people included patients who had traveled in the ambulance that had carried Mr. Duncan to the hospital before it was taken out of service and cleaned.

Courtesy of Hoss and the CDC:


http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html

Symptoms of Ebola include

Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F)
Severe headache
Muscle pain
Weakness
Diarrhea
Vomiting
Abdominal (stomach) pain
Unexplained hemorrhage (bleeding or bruising)
Symptoms may appear anywhere from 2 to 21 days after exposure to Ebola, but the average is 8 to 10 days.

Expert climatologist and epidemiologist all in one!  I may just start calling you “The Professor”.  I’m sure by now you’ve heard Duncan’s condition has been downgraded to “critical” today.  I sure hope he ends up not breaking the chain of not dying while under the care of a western nation.  

I don’t have a fear of catching it, I simply don’t believe it’s anything to be taken lightly.  You make it sound as if it deserves the concern of a common cold.

That right wing rag NY Times is even in on this with the winger sources you mentioned (which I don’t watch or listen to):

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/05/us/ebola.html?_r=0

I will say that CDC and local health authorities are taking it quite seriously and I’m impressed with their diligence in making sure they keep the threat of it spreading minimal.

Yes, that is true in previous outbreaks, this one is coming on faster but also isn't as deadly only killing about 60% of victims down from 90%.

Source please.

I can't seem to find it anymore.

Yeah, I should have linked it when I first quoted it. I can't seem to find it anymore.

It was an article that listed each outbreak, infection rates, death rates, and incubation periods. I will keep looking. The survival rate is likely due to improved treatment, but the virus also may be changing.

I will keep looking.

So...is that a no on Benny Hinn?  Is Jethro Dollar a healer?

Which one of these mother scratchers can get in there and heal this smile?

This guy maybe? Is he still in the metroplex area?

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Too much flatulence.

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Too much flatulence.

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There goes the criminal charges that needed to be talked about.

Criminal charges?

The DA was talking about bringing criminal charges against this guy if he survived for 'knowingly brining a harmful disease into the country'..actually I'm paraphrasing it...but welcome to North Texas.

I had forgotten hearing about that, thanks. Sure they won't go after the surviving members of the familynhe was staying with, especially after the $100+k it cost to clean the apartment?

Criminal charges?

I thought the prosecution was going to be done in the Country he left. Supposedly because he lied about his health in order to get on a plane.

Just some stupidity that people had to discuss in order to make it look like Ebola reached America by some sort of criminality.

Well now just one day later. Jesse Jackson is in town stirring the pot. He appeared at the side of Mr Duncan's fiance and is calling for a full review of his treatment. Because the other five (white) patients treated here have either been cured. Or are being treated better than Mr Duncan.

And the family is looking at suing the hospital because he received “unfair” treatment.  SRSLY?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2785923/No-one-died-Ebola-U-S-Outraged-family-eyes-lawsuit-America-s-patient-zero-succumbs-initially-turned-away-doctors-later-refused-blood-transfusion.html

WHO: 10,000 new Ebola cases per week could be seen

GENEVA (AP) — The death rate in the Ebola outbreak has risen to 70 percent and there could be up to 10,000 new cases a week in two months, the World Health Organization warned Tuesday.

WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward gave the grim figures during a news conference in Geneva. Previously, WHO had estimated the death rate at around 50 percent.

Aylward said the 70 percent death rate was "a high mortality disease" in any circumstance and that the U.N. health agency was still focused on trying to get sick people isolated and provide treatment as early as possible.

He told reporters that if the world's response to the Ebola crisis isn't stepped up within 60 days, "a lot more people will die" and there will be a huge need to deal with the spiraling numbers of cases.

For the last four weeks, there's been about 1,000 new cases per week — including suspected, confirmed and probable cases, he said, adding that the U.N. health agency is aiming to get 70 percent of cases isolated within two months to reverse the outbreak.

WHO increased its Ebola death toll tally to 4,447 people on Tuesday, nearly all of them in West Africa, from 8,914 cases.

Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia have been hardest hit nations in the current outbreak. Aylward said WHO was very concerned about the continued spread of Ebola in the three countries' capital cities —Freetown, Conakry and Monrovia.

He said the agency was still focused on trying to treat Ebola patients, despite the huge demands on the broken health systems in West Africa.

"It would be horrifically unethical to say that we're just going to isolate people," he said, noting that new strategies like handing out protective equipment to families and setting up very basic clinics — without much treatment — was a priority.

In Berlin, a U.N. medical worker infected with Ebola in Liberia died despite "intensive medical procedures." The St. Georg hospital in Leipzig said Tuesday that the 56-year-old man, whose name has not been released, died overnight of the infection.

The man tested positive for Ebola on Oct. 6, prompting Liberia's U.N. peacekeeping mission to place 41 other staff members under "close medical observation."

He arrived in Leipzig for treatment on Oct. 9. The hospital's chief executive, Dr. Iris Minde, said at the time there was no risk of infection for other people, since he was kept in a secure isolation ward specially equipped with negative pressure rooms that are hermetically sealed.

He was the third Ebola patient to be flown to Germany for treatment. The first man recovered and returned home to Senegal. A Uganda aid worker is still being treated in Frankfurt.

http://news.yahoo.com/10-000-ebola-cases-per-week-could-seen-124410379.html

I guess the WHO needs to quit listening to fright wing radio,

Why's that?

Swake mentioned a few pages back that all this hysteria is the fault of Rush, Fox, and Clear Channel.  So I assume Ms. Chan must be an ardent consumer of their news.

I guess the WHO needs to quit listening to fright wing radio, they now claim we could see up to 10,000 new cases per week and the death rate is now 70%.  Margaret Chan, the director of WHO calls it the modern era’s greatest health emergency.

The left Washington will follow their established pattern: 
1. Find out what the populous is scared of
2. If they have no fears, create ____
3. Promote the idea that you have the only solution to ____
4. Provide a narrative where the opposition wants them to die from ____
5. Rinse and repeat.

Ebola just offers a new side-car to the current vehicles.

Fixed that for you

This has become a Geico commercial, and the United States is acting like the group of kids who pass on the waiting car - that is running - and choose to hide behind the chainsaws!!


Stop people from coming here on airplanes from ebola affected countries - by whatever path they take.  It's not rocket science....

Can’t do that Heir, that’s racist, uncaring, and just plain fear-mongering.  You been listening to Rush, Hannity, O’Reilly...did you get Murdoched?

A national nurses union is decrying an absence of protocols at the Dallas hospital where a man died of Ebola and a nurse was infected while caring for him.

Leaders of the National Nurses Union read a statement Tuesday which they said represented concerns from a number of nurses that work at Texas Health Presbyterian in Dallas. The union officials declined to identify the Dallas nurses or say how many were participating in the statement.

But they were vociferous in citing a lack of protocols on the day that Thomas Eric Duncan was admitted with extreme symptoms of Ebola.

Among the flaws cited by the group included:

insufficient garb worn by the emergency personnel
the fact that Duncan was left "for hours" in a non-quarantined zone
that his lab samples were sent in the same way that normal specimens are sent
hospital official allowed nurses involved with Duncan to take care of other patients
other ways in which the hospital did not immediately react to the situation.
 
African Ebola outbreak could result in 5-10,000 new cases weekly

"Were protocols breached?" said union spokeswoman Rose Ann DeMoro, "There were no protocols."

"These nurses are not well protected. They're not prepared to handle Ebola or any other pandemic," said DeMoro. "We are deeply alarmed."

DeMoro said the nurses who had come forward were afraid to reveal their identities "because of a culture of threat in the hospitals."

Tuesday night, Texas Health Presbyterian issued a statement in response to the nurses' charges.

"Patient and employee safety is our greatest priority and we take compliance very seriously. We have numerous measures in place to provide a safe working environment, including mandatory annual training and a 24-7 hotline and other mechanisms that allow for anonymous reporting. Our nursing staff is committed to providing quality, compassionate care, as we have always known, and as the world has seen firsthand in recent days. We will continue to review and respond to any concerns raised by our nurses and all employees."

Also Tuesday, the nation's top disease-fighting agency acknowledged Tuesday that federal health experts failed to do all they should have done to prevent Ebola from spreading from a Liberian man who died last week in Texas to the nurse who treated him.

 
CDC ramps up Ebola training for health care workers

Agency Director Tom Frieden outlined a series of steps designed to stop the spread of the disease in the U.S., including increased training for health care workers and changes at the Texas hospital where the virus was diagnosed to minimize the risk of more infections.

A total of 76 people at the hospital might have had exposure to Thomas Eric Duncan, and all of them are being monitored for fever and other symptoms daily, Frieden said.

That figure confirmed an Associated Press report on Monday that nurse Nina Pham was among about 70 hospital staffers who were involved in Duncan's care after he was hospitalized, based on medical records provided by Duncan's family.

 Ebola protocols reevaluated following nurse's infection

The announcement of the government's stepped-up effort came after top health officials repeatedly assured the public over the last two weeks that they were doing everything possible to control the outbreak by deploying infectious-disease specialists to the hospital where Duncan was diagnosed with Ebola and later died.

"I wish we had put a team like this on the ground the day the patient - the first patient - was diagnosed. That might have prevented this infection. But we will do that from today onward with any case anywhere in the U.S.," Frieden said.

Frieden described the new response team as having some of the world's leading experts in how to care for Ebola and protect health care workers. They planned to review everything from how the isolation room is physically laid out, to what protective equipment health workers use, to waste management and decontamination.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nurses-union-dallas-hospital-lacked-ebola-protocols/

The media is going to make this the nurse's fault before this is all over.
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-nurse-contracted-ebola-understood-risks-153314500.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory
Nurse infected with Ebola knew risks of her work

Dosen't really change the fact that the patient she cared for should have never been here in the first place.

You know, I find it a bit ironic that the entire country freaks out when 1 person that has Ebola dies in this country.

However, 10,000 annual deaths by firearms?  Meh, who cares.

This morning, Nurse Pham was reported to be in good condition.  No doubt this is because she’s a white Asian and received superior care to the late Mr. Duncan.  ::)

The purchase of a firearm does not translate into a 70% fatality rate.

You know, I find it a bit ironic that the entire country freaks out when 1 person that has Ebola dies in this country.

However, 10,000 annual deaths by firearms?  Meh, who cares.

32,000 technically with roughly 1/2 homicide, but who’s counting?

The reason I believe people are worried is repeated assurances this was being contained and controlled in Africa.  Then a case shows up here in the states and now two healthcare workers who supposedly were properly trained and equipped to deal with this and other infectious diseases turn up with it.  This amidst assurances from the CDC how this would a) never reach our shores; b) if it did we can cure it; c) it won’t spread.

Either there’s more to the disease than anyone is aware or is being informed of, or we are simply not being told the whole truth.  There’s no disputing this is the largest ebola outbreak ever, that’s been repeated multiple times by WHO.  With each emerging case in west Africa, there’s more of a chance of it spreading through Europe, Asia, or North and South America if strict travel restrictions are not put in place.

Particularly repugnant is the idiots in Washington, as usual, are making this a political issue when it needs to be a common sense one.  But politics and commonsense don’t belong in the same sentence.

You know, I find it a bit ironic that the entire country freaks out when 1 person that has Ebola dies in this country.

However, 10,000 annual deaths by firearms?  Meh, who cares.

Credit due!

Obama has just announced he will cancel his additional fundraising trips this week to attend national security briefings and address the Ebola issue.

Sad that it took public outcry, but he deserves credit for making the decision to do this President thing.

I've sent him your thoughts.  He'll be so excited you approve.

Man could we have all sorts of fun with that post.

Federal health officials said Wednesday that a second Dallas health-care worker who tested positive for Ebola violated health rules by by flying with 132 people who flew with her on a Frontier Airlines jet from Cleveland to Dallas.

All of those passengers and crew on that flight were asked to immediately contact the U.S. Centers for Disease Control for possible monitoring, as officials also announced that the new patient will be transported Wednesday to a hospital in Atlanta for treatment. She was identified by the public health director of Cleveland as Amber Joy Vinson.

CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden said the newly infected patient "should not have traveled on a commercial flight" or taken any other public transportation because she had had contact with an Ebola patient at her hospital, and because her temperature was a slightly elevated 99.5 degrees before she boarded Monday's flight from Cleveland.

Vinson only became feverish on Tuesday. Vinson is the second health-care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas to be diagnosed with Ebola after having cared for Liberian national Thomas Eric Duncan, who died from the disease Oct. 8. The other current patient there was nurse for Duncan, 26-year-old Nina Pham, who is stable condition.

Frieden said that the risk of the woman having infected another person on the flight Monday is "extremely low" because of the difficulty in transmitting Ebola.

Vinson "will be transported" to Emory University hospital in Atlanta from Dallas later Wednesday "as a result of a clinical decision," said US Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Matthews Burwell. Vinson was not named by Burwell, Frieden or health officials in Texas when they discussed her case.

Emory has recently cared for two prior Ebola patients, both Americans who recovered from the virus, and is sending two nurses to Texas Health Presbyterian to assist in treating Pham.

Officials are also going to monitor three people Vinson had contact with before she was isolated Tuesday.

Kent State University in Ohio said Vinson has three relatives who work at the university, but also said she did not visit the campus during her recent trip to her family's home in Summit County, Ohio.

Kent State's director of health services, Dr. Angela DeJulius, said "Out of an abundance of caution, we're asking the patient's family members to remain off campus for the next 21 days and self-monitor per CDC protocol."

Neither the three people who had contact with Vinson, nor more than 120 others who had contact with Duncan will be allowed to travel on commercial flights or public transportation until they clear the incubation deadline for the virus, Frieden said.

In response to dramatic developments, President Barack Obama canceled a planned election-season trip Wednesday to New Jersey and Connecticut.

Instead, administration officials said, he will convene an afternoon meeting at the White House with agencies coordinating the government's response to the outbreak.

Officials also warned that additional cases of the deadly virus at the Dallas hospital where the woman worked are "a very real possibility."

"We have contingencies for more," Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins said during a morning briefing on Vinson's diagnosis.

Jenkins said Vinson was isolated within 90 minutes of reporting a fever Tuesday. She is the third person diagnosed in the U.S. with Ebola, which is currently epidemic in three West African countries.

The CDC hours later revealed that Vinson had flown on Monday on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth. The CDC asked all passengers aboard that flight to call 1-800-232-4636. Frontier Airlines said passengers who also traveled with the woman on Flight 1142 on Friday from Dallas/Fort Worth to Cleveland should contact CDC as well.

"Individuals who are determined to be at any potential risk will be actively monitored," the CDC said in a statement. It said the woman exhibited no symptoms aboard the flight on Monday evening. The disease can be spread only by contact with bodily fluids and when symptoms appear, and not by casual contact, the CDC has said.

Frontier Airlines said the aircraft used for Flight 1143 remained grounded overnight from Monday and received a thorough cleaning, as is normal. The aircraft was cleaned again in Cleveland on Tuesday night, the airline said.
Vinson and Pham's employer, Texas Health Presbyterian, is facing renewed criticism for its handling of Duncan's case.

Texas Health didn't initially admit the Liberian national Duncan for treatment Sept. 25 despite knowing he had a high fever and had recently traveled from West Africa, center of the largest Ebola outbreak on record. Duncan was admitted three days later after becoming more seriously ill.

Vinson and Pham were among 77 people who were involved in treating Duncan or handling his blood. All were placed on a monitoring list, but only after Pham had been diagnosed with Ebola. They join 48 people who had or may have had contact with Duncan before he was admitted to the hospital.

"Health officials have interviewed the latest patient to quickly identify any contacts or potential exposures, and those people will be monitored," the Texas Department of Health said in a statement. "The type of monitoring depends on the nature of their interactions and the potential they were exposed to the virus."

As with Pham's case, it is not known precisely how Vinson became infected while caring for Duncan. But Frieden said both women "had extensive contact" with Duncan in the initial days of his stay at Texas Health, a time when he was suffering from intense vomiting and diarrhea.

During that same time, Frieden said, "a variety of forms of personal protective equipment were used." Frieden suggested that the

Jenkins called the new case "a gut shot" to the staff at Texas Heath, "because this is one of their own."

He said more cases there are "a very real possibility."

Jenkins called Vinson, without using her name, "a heroic person, a person who is dedicating her life to serving others."

"And we hope and pray that, like Nina, she will get on a good track."

CDC reviewing treatment protocols

Early Wednesday, officials made reverse 911 calls to neighbors of Vinson's in Dallas. The common areas outside her apartment were cleaned, and the inside of her unit was set to be cleaned later in the day.

Vinson lives alone, with no pets, officials said.

The latest case came to light just hours after CDC Director Frieden said he regretted not having immediately sent a more "robust" CDC team Texas Health after Duncan was admitted with Ebola in late September.

Frieden said such a step "might have prevented" Pham's infection.

Her diagnosis led the CDC to "rethink" the way it tries to control Ebola from spreading to caregivers, said Frieden, who since has dispatched a specialized infection-control team to Texas to complement an existing CDC squad.

Officials are reviewing and revising the protocols for treatment of the two women at the hospital.

Among other things, Frieden has suggested that health-care workers may have been using too many layers of protective garb, which can present an opportunity for a mistake when they are removed after interacting with a patient, as can the use of tape to hold down openings for hands in that gear. He also said officials have recommended that fewer caregivers go in and out of the rooms containing an Ebola patient.

Texas Health Presbyterian was criticized hours before Vinson's case came to light by a nurses union, National Nurses United, which accused the hospital of not having proper protocols in place to handle the disease.

The union said nurses at the hospital complained of confusion and little training in the days after Duncan was diagnosed, putting tem at risk.

"There was no advance preparedness on what to do with the patient, there was no protocol, there was no system," the group said in a statement.

The hospital responded by saying: "Patient and employee safety is our greatest priority and we take compliance very seriously. We have numerous measures in place to provide a safe working environment, including mandatory annual training and a 24-7 hotline and other mechanisms that allow for anonymous reporting."

During a briefing Wednesday morning, Daniel Varga, chief clinical officer for Texas Health, said, "I don't think we have a systematic, institutional problem."
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He said said Texas Health is looking into every element of the protective equipment staff uses to treat Ebola patient, as well as other infection-control measures at the hospital.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry said "The diagnosis of a second health care worker in Dallas reaffirms what a formidable foe this virus is."

"I am in daily contact with Dr. Brett Giroir and Dr. David Lakey and earlier today spoke with White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough and HHS Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell to ensure state and federal management of this issue is tightly coordinated."

"This is the first time that our nation has had to deal with a threat such as this. Everyone working on this challenge—from the medical professionals at the bedside to the public health officials addressing containment of the infection—is working to end the threat posed by this disease. These individuals are keeping the health and safety of Texans and the needs of the patients as their most critical tasks. Every relevant agency at the local, state and national levels is working to support these individuals."

Perry also said, "I have great faith that we will succeed in this important mission; once we have put it behind us we will be the stronger for it and more prepared to meet the kinds of challenges that we as Americans are uniquely prepared to face."

People with Ebola are not contagious until symptoms such as fever develop. The disease is spread through direct contact with bodily fluids or exposure to contaminated objects such as needles.

Pham, in a statement issued Tuesday, said she was "doing well," and thanked "everyone for their kind wishes and prayers."

Ebola has an incubation period of up to 21 days. The 48 people who are being monitored for having contact with Duncan before his admission to the hospital are due to come off monitoring on Sunday, and so far none has shown any symptoms.

While several Americans who contracted Ebola in West Africa have been treated for the virus after being transported in the U.S.—including NBC News freelance cameraman Ashoka Mukpo—there have been no other cases diagnosed in the U.S. besides the three in Dallas.

A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll conducted before the third case emerged found that 56 percent of Americans say the United States is ready for a possible outbreak, but only about one in 10 say the country is "very prepared."

In its situation report Friday, the World Health Organization said global deaths from Ebola had reached over 4,000, with the most "widespread and intense transmission" occurring in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Officials expect there to be 9,000 officially diagnosed cases of the virus by the end of this week.

Countries with "initial cases" or "localized transmission" included Nigeria, Senegal, Spain and the U.S.

WHO officials on Tuesday said there could be up to 10,000 new cases of Ebola diagnosed in West Africa by December in the absence of ramped-up efforts to combat the disease.

CORRECTION: An earlier version had the wrong number for the CDC. The correct number is 1-800-232-4636

Gosh Guido, I'm so glad.

Be sure to wipe up once you're done.  Wouldn't want to get anyone infected with whatever you might have.

If you were on Frontier flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas on Monday, CDC wants to talk to you.  Thomas Frieden says she should not have been flying in the first place.  Makes a travel ban sound even more sensible, eh?  If we don’t want anyone potentially exposed to it in this country flying or on public transportation for 21 days, why would we allow people who may have been exposed in west Africa to travel here?

Funny. That's precisely where I was going with you and your proximity to Obama.

Exactly as predicted.  Ebola was caused by the Republicans.

Exactly as predicted.  Ebola was caused by the Republicans.

SHEILA JACKSON LEE: I’m frustrated we didn’t take the initial encounter in Dallas at the level that it should have been. The county officials have been excellent, but the fractured infrastructure, and understanding what was happening to Mr. Duncan did not translate to those front liners, the nurses and techs and others. That is unfair to them. I’m frustrated with that. I will also say that Center For Disease Control suffers from the continued gridlock in Washington and Republicans not funding fully even though the fight against Ebola is bipartisan, the CDC and NIH has suffered in its funding.
https://grabien.com/file.php?id=27109&searchorder=date

I have seen on twitter several sources claiming the CDC approved on Ebola exposed nurse to travel by air with symptoms. I guess that too was a result of funding cuts.

Here's one source.

Probably shouldn't ask the receptionist at the CDC.

Nearly the same as asking the intern at the NTSB:

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Saw a Facebook post today.    Ok, government says Ebola is hard to get, yet 2 trained nurses in full hazmat gear got it.  Mmmmkay. 

What caught my attention in one news story was how they were keeping an eye on one homeless person who had had contact with the patient in Dallas, but then they lost track of the homeless person. They did find him later.  But despite how great and modern our society is, you suddenly start to see how some things we don't pay much attention to, could be the weak link that could get things to turn ugly real quick.

University of Minnesota knocks down claim of new Ebola risks

Ebola anxiety spread rapidly on social media Wednesday when inaccurate articles and tweets claimed that University of Minnesota infectious disease experts had determined the deadly virus has become airborne — a claim quickly shot down by the U.

A Twitter user with the name @UnivMinnNews, which uses the U logo but is not an official university account, spread the claim — citing an article in the alternative news site Inquisitr. That story cited a commentary posted on the website of the U’s Center for Infectious Disease Control and Policy (CIDRAP).

The published commentary, however, doesn’t make that claim, U officials pointed out. It only states that “people should understand the potential for a virus to become airborne.” And while it was posted on the CIDRAP website, it was written by an unaffiliated researcher from Chicago.

“CIDRAP is not saying [Ebola] is airborne,” spokeswoman Caroline Marin said Wednesday afternoon. “There is always the possibility that diseases can mutate.”

The false claims spread rapidly on social media, and seemed to stoke fears already heightened by the discovery that a second nurse in Texas became infected at a hospital that treated the first U.S.-diagnosed case of Ebola.

Ebola spreads through contact with infected bodily fluids such as blood and saliva — unlike seasonal influenza, which can be airborne. The current Ebola outbreak is centered in west Africa, where more than 8,000 people have suffered infections and 4,000 have died. CIDRAP’s director, Michael Osterholm, said last week that he doubts there will be widespread transmission of Ebola in the U.S., or cases in Minnesota.

http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/279361722.html

This doesn’t help matters, the internet and social media are great places to spread misinformation.  An article appeared yesterday claiming that CIDRAP had determined ebola could be transmitted via airborne particles.

So who will be the Ebola Czar to work with Susan Rice,  DHS, NSA, NIH, CDC, FDA?

He’s already used to being thrown under the bus then having the bus backed up and rolled forward over him.  Repeatedly.  CDC seems to be as competent as 2005 FEMA.  Again, why do so many people stake their hope and safety on government bureaucracies which understand little or nothing about humanity, nor reality?

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The exposure score now is three passenger jets and a 5,075 person capacity cruise ship...

We really DO make stupid decisions

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Ebola is now diagnosed in NYC.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyregion/craig-spencer-is-tested-for-ebola-virus-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html?_r=0

Apparently quarantining persons that volunteer health care workers overseas to help Ebola is bad, but quarantining volunteer soldiers that go to the same area is good. Can someone explain to me the difference?

UCMJ vs Constitution.

And in the middle is all of us who could be exposed to/infected by Ebola by those medical professionals given preferential treatment? I am not looking for the legal justification, I want to know the fargin logic.

I'm not overly concerned, but I think that the US, for as much as we want believe that we are prepared for something like this, we're not. Not blaming any one of the alphabet of agencies, but it just seems that between the Fed level and the State level, there is no commonality of standards and practices, and for the most part it seems that there are minimal beds and facilities that could handle a serious outbreak. Reminds me of the cold war days where we had a certain number of Fallout Shelters and at best those were capable of only delaying the inevitable. Not trying to be fatalistic, just my own realistic view of how things might happen.

I don't think that the solution is gov't run hospitals with requirements for isolation wards, and I have had personal experience with an isolation ward/floor when the former MrsDbacks contracted meningitis and was held in isolation for 72 hours to try and determine what she had, whether it was viral or bacterial, and had to dress in a disposable gown, gloves, mask, shield, and boots to go into her room. The hospital she was in only had 8 rooms, and it was nothing near what they need for Ebola. At the time in Phoenix the total capacity for a metro area of 3+million people the amount of isolation rooms was way less than 1%, and a lot of hospitals had no isolation area.

I don't know what the answer is to be prepared, a hospital can't afford to maintain rooms for isolation that are not used 99% of the time, and they can't afford to have a large number of rooms that are not used in case of a large intake of people that need to be isolated, and moving patients around to accept and configure rooms.

Blackwell Schools are asking a teacher to be in quarantine for visiting Rwanda, which while it is in Africa does not have any Ebola cases and is more than a thousand miles from the impacted areas.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/28/ebola-rwanda-oklahoma-teacher_n_6062726.html

After being forced to by an online petition.

This indicates the level of education in our state.  IMO.

Teh geographies are difficult for some people.

He has Malaria

Run for your lives.

That's pretty bad, too.

If ebola is transmitted by bodily fluids, and blood is a bodily fluid, then mosquitoes must be a vector, too.

There is no evidence that mosquitos or other insects can transmit Ebola virus.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/index.html?s_cid=cs_3923

They keep saying that....then there are cases where it just doesn't quite fit....

I think it is most likely that the "unexplained" transmissions are sloppy hygiene - endemic in this country where there is no excuse, and even bigger in places without clean water and cleaning capabilities.

They keep saying that....then there are cases where it just doesn't quite fit....

I think it is most likely that the "unexplained" transmissions are sloppy hygiene - endemic in this country where there is no excuse, and even bigger in places without clean water and cleaning capabilities.

You almost sounded like cabbage with this post...

TNF is blessed to have such well respected and renowned infectious disease experts and physicians in this forum to make sure we all know the risks for transmission of Ebola, and also to let us as a nation know what we should be worried about. No need for all that hospital training that Tulsa hospitals are going through right now, because obviously they are overreacting. And the public, they are a bunch of dumb@sses. I mean, its not as if the military is being involuntarily quarantined by Obama for three weeks when they return from the hot zone.

Dr. Swake. Thanks for being you. Make sure you pass around your expertise to those stupid health care workers on the front lines of treatment who are too stupid to be as enlightened as you.

I certainly applaud the Tulsa County Health Department for being diligent in following up.  But was it really necessary to release information that we had a “potential” ebola case in the timeframe they did that?  Less than 12 hours later, we find out it’s malaria.  How many people showed up at ER’s around the area in the last 12 hours with a slight fever, in a total panic, thinking they might have had contact with this guy? KRMG should get the Everest award for their effort on this molehill.

You almost sounded like cabbage with this post...

So, ..... are you saying the CDC is lying about everything they say about how to avoid this stuff?

No, but with your response it appears you don't believe them.  Or you're skeptical.  Skepticism is fine, however....

* More Americans have been dumped by Taylor Swift than have died from Ebola.
* More Americans have Leprosy in the US than have Ebola.  Are people freaking out from it?

This just breaks my heart.

I certainly applaud the Tulsa County Health Department for being diligent in following up.  But was it really necessary to release information that we had a “potential” ebola case in the timeframe they did that?  Less than 12 hours later, we find out it’s malaria.  How many people showed up at ER’s around the area in the last 12 hours with a slight fever, in a total panic, thinking they might have had contact with this guy? KRMG should get the Everest award for their effort on this molehill.

This just breaks my heart.

Can't help but think of this clip.