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suck. According to this article at least.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/why-i-hate-american-soccer-fans-1402012291

June 7, 2014
Why I Hate the Wall Street Journal
Brazil Nuts - World Cup 2014, Nutcases, Tools, Idiots and/or Scumbags

http://www.bigsoccer.com/blog/2014/6/7/why-i-hate-the-wall-street-journal


GO USA!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgV-XPY0Yc8[/youtube]

Plenty of fair points.  Also plentyof contradictory statements - don't say we are copying you and that you hate it, and then say we aren't copying well enough. Also, he missed some obvious ones:  DC United is not the result of two teams uniting; Real Salt Lake does not have a royal charter.

America is a melting pot in every way.  As soccer grows it will be Americanized too.

Add this to some of the things I have said in the past.....

....the most derivative, excessive and utterly ridiculous collection of sports fans on the planet......



Of course, that's Americans in general when in a European environment...

Sometimes you guys really need to lighten up a little...

Silly String rocks!
http://www.koamtv.com/category/164379/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10254436

We got a 'pot calling the kettle black' moment here....

Notice how the first goal, the Tulsa plays body slams the other goalie just for fun.... no, he did not have so much inertia going that he "had" to do that!  Actually the silly string is way cool!!  And I am absolutely certain they cleaned up their mess afterwards - being good stewards of the planet and all.

As for lightening up...I am so light I am about to float away!!  Very liberating feeling. 

In fairness, soccer isn't the only sport that has out of control fans - that is the standard cliche' about kids sports in just about every venue....parents on the sidelines going crazy....  The only sport where that does NOT happen is in the shooting sports.

No.
What we have is YOU being a dick.

Once again, you being a dick.

For a third time... you being a dick.

I guess being a dick is really liberating for you.  

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GP5_NQ_LEs[/youtube]

As a soccer fan for over 35 years who still remembers having to watch the 1990 World Cup on a snowy tv screen in Spanish, this isn't the worst argument to have.

I'm a fan of Everton in the English Premier League because former Tulsa Roughnecks ball boy and son of one of the owners (Joe-Max Moore) played for them a couple of seasons...
I remember arguing with American fans who once thought the future of American pro soccer would be playing all games indoors.
I remember getting disgusted at the faux-fans who'd wear their far-fetched ethnicities on their sleeves and root for every team other than the US of A because "Americans can't play soccer."
I remember getting frustrated at the fans who decided that American women were better soccer players than the men after they beat a handful of nations in the Women's World Cup.

And there's always the well worn refrain of having an acquaintance who knows you love the sport, and therefore finds it irresistible to engage in the ever-popular "Soccer = Rioting & violence" meme, which is almost as much fun as having someone from Podunk, Oklahoma find out you're Italian and engage in the "Every Italian is a card-carrying member of the mafia" meme...  

Just so you know, alot of our local fans enjoy watching the English Premier League -- and frankly, that good-for-nothing WSJ putz from England has no clue who we Tulsans are and what we're all about..... not unlike having some Frenchman talk about how he grew up with the Tour de France and crow about how "derivative, excessive and utterly ridiculous" we Tulsans are as cycling fans.... http://vimeo.com/43947788

English FA Cup audience up 13 percent on Fox
http://www.socceramerica.com/article/58225/english-fa-cup-audience-up-13-percent-on-fox.html

NBC Scores Highest Overnight Rating in U.S. History for Premier League Opener
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And just so you know, yes Tulsa has an "Arsenal" bar... but it's not in a trendy "district" or in midtown... it's on Main Street in Jenks...
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That said, you won't find any prawns, boiled meats, or blood pudding at this Saturday's tailgate at Tulsa Athletics Stadium...
Instead, you'll find this... from our good friends at BurnCo...
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$5 for non-members also includes beer... mention your TulsaNow handle and Ruf pays your five-spot...
Breast Cancer Awareness Night - Saturday, June 14th
http://www.tulsaathletics.com/news/breast-cancer-awareness-night-saturday-june-14th/
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Wow!  ZING!!!   What a catchy comeback... well, not really....

I was actually seriously amused by the silly string thing - that was pretty cool.  Even if tremendously dangerous....so in addition to being "good stewards" of the earth by spreading a compound that has been known to never decompose, cause damage to other materials - vinyl anyway, and clog drains and sewage systems, leading to banning in some cities...(I'm starting to see a connection to soccer...), it can actually be fairly dangerous - good thing there were no smokers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPnX-hx94OU

Too bad there wasn't more intellect to your reply..... some would have spent a little time, put some thought into it, said something truly expressive/interesting.....  well, I guess that's what the whole soccer fan thing at the beginning is all about....  Go back and review some of guido's posts - he occasionally comes up with some good stuff!  Let's review;
http://online.wsj.com/articles/why-i-hate-american-soccer-fans-1402012291

High school graduate, huh??  Name calling all ya got??

Come on - try harder!  Maybe get some friends to help??   Who knows - this could happen;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

Sometimes, WHO needs to lighten up a bit??

I thought Jenks was the trendy district....



I am tempted to show up with "handle", just to see how you would react....!   BurnCo is edible...!

Yeah....I AM an instigator!

I would imagine he would feed you, give you beer and make sure you had a great time.   

I hear that if you drink enough beer, soccer actually becomes watchable.

I like soccer a lot - would rather watch it than NFL.  College football - another story....better than soccer...  They (soccer players) are much better overall athletes, wider range of conditioning/endurance and athletic skills.  Not just a bunch of 300 lb body builders prancing around beating each others brains out for millions of dollars.....and don't even get me started about the owners....


Rugby is even better - for real men, not just "soccer wannabes".....  (Couldn't resist - just had to put something in for Ruf...)


(Let's see who gets tweaked by that in the pro-football camp...!)

You simply don’t know BBQ if your impression of BurnCo is “edible”.

Rugby is in a class all it's own.   Those guys are toughest bunch of idiots on the planet.  Love rugby.

Day-to-day, not sure whether I'd rather watch a pro soccer game or a pro football game.  But it's World Cup time baby!  Everything else takes a back seat for a while.

I like soccer a lot - would rather watch it than NFL.(sic)

BLASPHEMER! You all read it! I'll take a couple of pointy ones and a packet of gravel........... ;)

You don't like them??   I thought you were a fan...?

I think he's saying if your impression is merely that it's edible, then you don't know Q.  I know Conan and his love for the Burnco.  I love that stuff too.

I like Burnco....they are good.  I think Albert G's is slightly better overall.  Beyond that, there really isn't much out there that impresses me....


Black Jaxx beat them both, but they are gone now....sadness!!

Apparently there is a free soccer (Australian Rules Football) game at the old Drillers stadium tonight.

(Is this the free scrimmage before your game tomorrow?)

http://www.tulsabuffaloes.com/

Wow! just Wow!

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/06/13/world-cup-liberals-more-likely-to-be-soccer-fans/?mg=blogs-wsj&url=http%253A%252F%252Fblogs.wsj.com%252Fwashwire%252F2014%252F06%252F13%252Fworld-cup-liberals-more-likely-to-be-soccer-fans&utm_content=buffer5801f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Going to a Tulsa Athletics game or joining with the American Outlaws at Fassler Hall for a World Cup game will not give you liberal cooties... I promise.
Trust me, there are many many conservative Christian evangelicals I know who love the sport of soccer... not to mention conservative Catholics who've supported soccer in this town for decades... Tulsa's been at the top of tv ratings for the English Premier League several times and I'd hardly characterize this city as "left-leaning," let alone liberal... and in the many games I've attended at Tulsa Athletics Stadium, I've never seen a Che Guevara or Hugo Chavez shirt... not once -- just sayin'   ;D

Fellow Toffee? Same here. Starting following them because of Donovan and Howard.

Minor point but it's actually just a bit north of Main St on 1st St

We need an Everton bar in town.

I was at the tailgate Saturday Rough.  Great times...

I wanted to go.  At least the brisket I was babysitting on the smoker turned out fantastic. 

And here's some of the pandemonium from Fassler Hall last Monday...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo89wCftSic&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Friday night....
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And we got a little love from KOTV...

http://www.newson6.com/category/121535/video-page?autostart=true&clipId=10290371

I am opting for the jumbotron experience today. Anyone else?

I'll be there wearing my 1994 America World Cup tshirt.... and as a sign of protest, my Tulsa Athletics scarf.   ;D
--Fassler Hall was just too packed for the Ghana game... can't imagine today would be any different.

You guys find me and I will buy you a beer.

Last minute opted for Fassler. Insane environment.

No better to place this story on the flopping going on at the World Cup (of wusses)

http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-world-rankings-of-flopping-1403660175

Now you're just trolling...

USA!  USA!  USA!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyaU_vMhGt0[/youtube]

You know. I've seen punters do that in Football. You do like Football? Right?  ???

So much pain and suffering to be endured by the players....how can we allow this much torture and torment to happen in this day and age?

They flop more than the NBA!!  That has always seemed to be the "gold standard" of flopping until now.


Oh, yeah...they have more kindergarten level "biters" than other sports, too!  Do their parents teach them nothing in childhood??

I hope the USA team scores an early touchdown. That would be a real home run.

Yep. Saw that in basketball too. And those folks get rightly called out as well. Not my fault that a story was done on this subject. I mean seriously, it's not as if people are biting each other or demanding they get paid cash or they will not play.

Actually it is kinda your fault.
Political conservatives trot this crap out every four years...
And anytime the conservative media can find a convenient scapegoat, lemmings like you lap it up....

Here's a nice saucer full of steaming crap for ya, brought to you by the shameless Ann Coulter... lap it up, sucker!  :D

Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/opinion/columnists/2014/06/25/coulter-growing-interest-soccer-sign-nations-moral-decay/11372137/

You give Coulter WAY too much credence - and credit....anyone with even just half a brain knows what kind of low-life she is....she takes a germ of truth and spins it into a sticky, smelly, swamp sludge with the most obnoxious odor imaginable.  The germ of truth here is that relatively few people in this country really follow soccer. 

The rest of her story is the glorification of football as some kind of Holy Grail of sports....and hockey??  Well, they pretty much all appeal to our baser natures for blood sport.  (Ever sit in the stands and here the phrase "kill 'em" being shouted?) Those two, plus basketball, and the "ring fighter" things like UFC.  Soccer has way to much violence, but it stems from fans rather than the game - but it does seem like the game is trying to "catch up" with the fans....can't let the fans get out in front of the game!

The 1975 version of "Rollerball" showed the path - our society has skipped down it merrily, merrily, merrily,.....life is but a dream...!

About the only sports left that haven't devolved into blood-letting and mayhem are the shooting sports!  All sanctioned team and organized individual shooting sports are played with inanimate objects as target.  Hunting is an individual, unorganized, non-team sport that does not go after other people.   Perhaps a day will come when the childhood games will make the transition to adult level....Cowboys and Indians... Cops and Robbers - we are getting close on that one.  That day is not today.

There really is no such thing as a sanctioned, institutionalized, organized version of "The Running Man".  That could change as UFC evolves to allow hand held weapons....   We are heading to a time when we will have come full circle - back to Roman Coliseum gladiator games!  It's been a long time since the lions got to wantonly kill the man, instead of the man wantonly killing the lion!

Wait...do you mean to say that Coulter is some kind of political commentator? All this time I thought she was a failed stand up comedian.

I learn something new here every day.

Anyway...

Fassler was a great spot again today. Belgium will be tough and waiting if we win is Argentina? Yikes.

Triumph getting into it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXFNrcsXPCQ[/youtube]

On a positive note, I am actually watching some of these games. And I do hope the U.S. does well.

USA showed some grit today, after going 2-0 down during the 30 minute overtime following scoreless regulation... so close to tying it up...

and now, for a final parting shot at the turdblossom Englishman who wrote the hack piece for the WSJ... 

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 ;D

Naw....just a failed human being!

Couldn't watch 'cause that pesky job kept getting in the way, but saw highlights!  That goalie is amazing!!  He really, really, really, really was amazing!

Did I mention the goalie was amazing??

The whole team has done a great job just getting to that point and to keep Belgium in check as long as they did - wow!  Kudoes to the whole gang!  Those guys did NOT lose - Belgium just barely won!

Scratch my plans to brew any Belgian beers any time soon.   ;D

Don't be a sore loser...US team did great, I think!  They certainly didn't "lose" that game....

Or...
Get brewing.  Every gallon you brew is a gallon of Belgian style beer that you didn't buy that was made in Belgium.
 
 ;D

Good point.  I’m starting my Oktoberfest lagers this weekend.  Maybe I can do a Belgian in the next week or so.  Marshall’s did a Belgian style IPA that was incredibly good.

May have to rethink my aversion to soccer a little.

http://www.cru.org/ministries-and-locations/ministries/athletes-in-action/tim-howard-the-keeper.htm

Tim Howard is simply a stud, both on and off the field, and those of us that have been fans for years already knew that.  I'm really happy to see him and the US team get the kudos they deserve.  But are you suggesting that his level of religiousness influences whether or not you like the sport?  I guess whatever it takes as long as people watch, but that makes no sense to me.

Tim Howard was on my EPL fantasy league team last season-- the "Yankee Toffees"... but, then again, so was Luis "The Biter" Suarez... oops.  

Anyway...... Happy 4th of July!....and here's a 1976 USA versus England match in which most of the "USA" players weren't actual US citizens... you'll see Pele, Giorgio Chinaglia, and... wearing jersey #4 for the USA... none other than the original founder of the Tulsa Soccer Club, Keith Eddy.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Eddy

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNKFedMlqN4[/youtube]
"The English national team defeated a team of NASL All-Stars 3-1 in the USA Bicentennial Cup on May 31, 1976. The game, at Philadelphia's JFK Stadium, was part of the four-nation tournament that also included Italy and Brazil (who won the round-robin with a 3-0 mark). International stars like Pele and Bobby Moore played for the "USA" team."

When it comes to this boring sport, that's about what it takes. Need to have something to cheer for while the equivalent of this is happening.

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I was thinking about the whole popularity/watch-ability thing this weekend while I was watching the games at my folks house in SW OK.   My family is a big soccer house, but my folks are not (even though I and my brother both played league soccer for several years when we were kids).   During the Argentina/NED match, my daughter blurts out "Look at how  they are playing Messi!  Look at that space!  They're afraid of him!"   And honestly, I wasn't really watching at that level and I'm not even sure it realized Messi had the ball right then.  But that little moment brought a lot of it into focus for me.  Since the actual goals in soccer are few, it is the process of play and the anticipation of a score (rather than the actual score) that makes watching the game so enjoyable.  But to do that, a person really does need a solid appreciation of the fundamentals of the game, and even an understanding of how a particular player plays the position.  And they have to pay attention for 45 minutes virtually non-stop.    I think that we are achieving that critical mass of fans who have that level of expertise, and it's great to see the popularity jumping the way it is,  but I understand where you are coming from.  Most non-fans are at a catch 22.  How do they get the knowledge to appreciate the games without basically forcing themselves to watch initially?   

In contrast, my parents are die-hard Texas Rangers fans and rarely miss a game on Television.   And even though I played for years in leagues and high school,  I simply can't watch the games anymore.  Going to a game?  Yeah, maybe.  But watching one on TV is almost painfully boring.

It will be interesting to see if she maintains that interest for say, another 5 - 7 years (don't know how old she is now but that isn't relevant).  Like how the ad says girls in 4th grade are almost all interested in science and math, but have that driven out of them by high school....keep us posted.  Will check back in 2019....

Wrestling Legend "J.R." Jim Ross Calling The Brazil-Germany Highlights
http://screamer.deadspin.com/here-is-j-r-jim-ross-calling-the-brazil-germany-firs-1601968953

I stopped watching that bludgeoning at the half.  Soccer needs a mercy rule..at least today it did.

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I haven't seen that much whining since the "Brazilian" wax job in the "40 year old Virgin"

Well, the world cup is over. Time to look for a replacement. Let's vote:

1.  Full contact bass fishing;

2.  Clothing-optional Sumo wrestling;

3.  Tour de France.

Add.

4.

The baseball All-Star game is this first week. Football is less than two months away.

There's that. 

I will say this much.  The 'trophy' is hideous.  It looks like something D&D players would fight over.

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Now, this is a cooler trophy:

(http://www.pmi.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Stanley-Cup.jpg)

For one..it's actually a Cup.  I've seen people drink out of it.  I've seen it in person as well.  It weighs well over 30 lbs.

Get your act together FIFA...if you want players to want to win the World Cup, make the trophy worthy of it.

Here's one of my favorites, the trophy for winning the Paris-Roubaix bicycle race. It's called the Hell of the North for good reason. The race is usually about 160 miles (not kilometers) with numerous sections of "pave" - cobblestone roads that date back to Roman times. In good weather it's extremely dusty. In bad weather, it may rain or snow and high winds are not uncommon. The cobbles are rough and slippery, not unlike riding atop oily pavement.

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What the world would look like if inhabited by soccer players....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvsuYssoTw0[/youtube]

Haha I posted this on my FB page today with the caption 'it could apply to NBA players also'.

Or NHL players? Uh, no.

Not really, when you see those dudes play with broken bones, busted teeth..hell, one dude last season had cardiac arrest on the bench, then as they loaded him to go to the hospital he was asking when he could take his next shift.  Tough bastards.  It amazes me after the playoffs and finals are over how many of these guys were playing through bone breaks and other general ailments that they didn't want known.

'Bout like soccer intellectually....only more exciting....

4.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9jvuiQzZBg&feature=kp

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoKoxofwvoo

Or;

4.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lmY7K0OG4s

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plbI-QxdFzk


I sooooo gotta get a school bus!!

64k in Seattle last night.

 :o

Or....


http://www.despair.com/whining.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVim7rjfKOQ



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioyt2zzm530



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypwpf-fhPoI


I gotta lighten up sometime soon....but it's just SOOOO easy!  And fun!

Very nice collection of flopping. And while the NBA is bad as well, the best performances by far are in soccer.

I always enjoyed watching "professional" wrestling, too!  Same kind of fake stuff going on....

And I think probably the best of all.....


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=725281440894141&fref=nf

Have you seen the one with the sniper from the movie Saving Private Ryan?

Yeah....that's what he gets for being left-handed!!   And trying to shoot a bolt action rifle backwards!  Shouldn't somebody do something about that?  Maybe make a government bureau, if not a full blown agency??!!

Words fail.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbmnhusvWTc[/youtube]

There is no place in a civilized society for an sport that requires the use of a ball in any configuration.

You do realize that is the only definition of "Sport" That and keeping score.

I watch NASCAR and have tried to explain to other fans it is not a sport. It's a skill.  ::)

I consider the legacy Olympic sports - as in Grecian times - to be sports.  Anything with a ball is just an attempt at redefinition and political correctness.

There is a difference between Sport and Athletic Competition.  Depending upon the definition, an activity can be both or neither.

Also my definition of a sport includes the ability for any Joe blow to be able to participate. So there again. Some skilled activities do not apply as being a sport.

And I forgot earlier, on NASCAR.....


"Gggoooollllyyyyy....I sure wished I could turns left for 500 hunnerd miles..."



If I haven't before, that should piss off about 103% of the population....

Now THAT is something I can be actively on board with!!

Nah. Kind of like Pro Wrestling. It's all about how you enjoy "your" entertainment.

I'm having trouble thinking of an activity, even a highly skilled one, where a person could not participate at some level.  Obviously not everyone can participate at the highest end of any sport or activity, but at some level there is room for participation in just about everything.

I have a grand nephew who was part of the longest reigning WWE Tag Team Champions of all time....

Last I heard, he was in overseas wrestling....getting too old for the "Big Show" here in the states!

Starting this morning..... Manchester United has lost their season opener... and I'm a big fan........ (of any team that's playing against ManU, that is).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=iRqypM7jb5Y[/youtube]

And this afternoon, at Tulsa Athletics Soccer Stadium. Starting at 2pm...

http://www.tulsabuffaloes.com/

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Um. Soccer?

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Not a h8r, just don't get your obsession.

No matter your opinion on soccer. There's this.

http://www.sportsgrid.com/soccer/bird-poops-in-manchester-united-winger-ashley-youngs-mouth-video/

Gross.