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I'm impressed with:
The Blacklist - probably the most intense drama I've seen on broadcast TV
Sleepy Hollow - Didn't buy the premise originally, just happened to watch the pilot online after the fact. Pretty impressed.

Disappointed:
Agents of Shield - A TV show about a group of people who work with superheros and aliens somehow manages to be a yawner. Character development is extremely slow leaving a bunch of non-interesting characters chasing vaguely interesting plot lines.
Michael J Fox Show - I like MJF as an actor. It's interesting they work his Parkinson's into it, but you could recast the rest of the actors without anyone noticing.

I do like the Blacklist.  Anymore it's almost a given with any show that has Spader in it that it will be good.

As far as Agents of SHIELD, I didn't expect much going in, and have actually been a little surprised at how much I do like it.  I'm thinking fanbois of Marvel complain about it (I'm not calling you one Scott) because they want instant gratification ala The Avengers.  I like the character development for a change, and have always liked Clark Gregg's portrayal of Coulson.  I'm still interested in how they fully explain his resurrection from his fate in Avengers.

We had high hopes for MJ Fox's and Robin Williams' new shows and eagerly awaited their debut.  We watched the first episodes and were disappointed.

Both of those disappointed me, but I found Sean saves the world to be actually decent.

I have not watched network TV in forever, but did want to give Brooklyn 99 a chance. I like it. Andy Samburg and Terry Crews are great, and Andre Brougher always has it. I am DVRing Sleepy Hollow

Most of my watching is Netflix. Just watched Continuum, Archer, and Arrow. Will probably watch HBO and Showtime shows once those networks get their heads out of their derrieres and realize I don't want to pay $150-200/mo to watch Game of Thrones.

Not going to happen. Time Warner and CBS/Viacom have way too much invested in other channels then to allow non cable subscriptions to Showtime or HBO.

I think Coulson is some sort of life model decoy, that's a S.H.E.I.L.D. thing that I remember from my days as an X-MEN reader. I am not a fan of this show, not because I'm a MARVEL fanboy but because I expected so much more from Joss Whedon. Firefly was excellent and the characters were engaging and interesting. These S.H.E.I.L.D. characters are stock and flat, nothing new here. For some reason this show feels old to me, like it is airing in 2001 instead of in the new "golden age" of television.

The show is mainly done by Jed Whedon, which may be the cause.

I watched the Blacklist premier
Does every episode involve tracking down some new criminal on the blacklist and learning a bit more about her husband?

Ahhhhh. JED!

Still bundled in a small cable package.

It is called "The Blacklist" so yes, the show focuses primarily on tracking down people on said list. Usually it's not hunting them so much as stopping a plot in progress by someone who happens to be on the list. (ie #157 is getting ready to go blow something up, go stop them) Some of them are kinda creepy (The stewmaker.... he disposes of bodies...)

The husband story feels like a season 1 arc. They delve into it in some episodes and pretty much ignore it in others.

Yeah, but the prerequisites to get HBO now are like $90, whereas basic cable is $14.

The package is actually $40-$50 depending on location for the first year and goes up to $70 the next year. You get HBO, Internet and 45 cable and local channels.

Sleepy Hollow was kind of interesting.  Have seen most of a couple episodes.  I think they are gonna run out of story in about 10 episodes. 

But then again, MASH took what "should" have been about 15 episodes and went for a long time....

I noticed they upped the cleavage factor on the female lead after the pilot.  The heels seem a bit out of the ordinary for the kind of work TV tells me she does too.

I enjoy the show.  They need to ditch the wife in purgatory.  Seems unnecessary. 

I think they have to keep her just to drag it out a while longer.  Watched last night and enjoyed it.  As soon as Crane is "disconnected" from Death - like, now - they are on the backside of building it up.  And last night seemed to take a very long time to develop.  I did like the new guy - he was in Fringe a couple years ago.  How did he find the Mason's hideout?  He "saw" it, but only very casually implied he knew where it was....

Suspension of disbelief can be difficult at times.
 

This show is better than I initially thought it would be, but not as good now I think it can be.  The clarity of writing is going to have to improve or they won't hold the audience.  Si-Fi and Fantasy audiences will accept a wild premise, but once that premise is established the rest of the plot has to hold to that line.  So far it seems like the writers have decent ideas, but can't figure out how to provide enough depth to keep the narrative clean.

The lead guy's accent helps hold attention...if he were just a regular 'Merican, it probably wouldn't work as well....


I enjoy the show so far and hope they can keep it going for a while.

I saw about two minutes of "The Millers" yesterday...wow is it terrible. How can they turn Margo Martindale who was so compelling on Justified into such a terrible actress. Also see Will Arnet keeping his eye on the emergency exit.

I know this technically isn't Fall 2013, but since the premium stations pretty much do what they want as far as new shows go..

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Has anyone watched the first five episodes of "True Detective"?

This might be the best show I've seen on HBO.  And maybe on TV period.

http://darknessbecomesyou.com

I have watched three so far. And I still can't tell where this is going. I'm just about to give up.

You need to watch four then, as it starts to get interesting.

It's probably the smartest police drama I've ever seen.

Yes.  This show has me on the edge of my seat.  Last night's episode was great.  Just when you think you have a grasp on what is going on, "Blam!", the writers throw you a curve.  I can't wait to see what direction the show goes in for episode 6.  I really hate that it is only going to be 8 episodes total, though.

8 episodes with these two actors.  There will be a second season, but not with McConaughey and Harrelson.

Aren't both of them Executive Producers?

Yep.  That doesn't mean they have to act in them, though...

True Detective is one of the few shows I make sure I DVR...Great acting, interesting story line...

I finished up the fourth and I'm halfway through the fifth. These two episodes are much better. I shall continue. Thanks for the info guy's.

Anyone else think Marty is the YK?

His character is nuts. I do like how they bust each others balls.  ;D

I don't think he is.  I re-watched the 5th episode last night to try to catch things that I might have missed.  I think if Marty was the Yellow King, the pharmacy killer would have said something about it to Rust when he said that he had met the Yellow King.  He said that he recognized him (probably from newspaper articles).  He would have seen Marty in those articles, too.  I guess the Yellow King could be disguised when he is the Yellow King, though.

I think it will come down to the preacher from the first episode, who is the governor's cousin, and who died in 2010, and the burned face guy that the revival girls told Marty about.  I also suspect that Marty's father-in-law is involved, somehow.

I think Marty is involved a lot more than some people may think.  Did you also notice from the Ep 6 teaser after the initial run on Sunday that it looks like the investigators are now interrogating Maggie?  This should get really interesting now.

I guess I missed that.  I did notice that it looks like Marty is going to do something to one of the guys that was caught with his daughter.  There was a snippet of him going into the cell and the guy getting in a defensive position.  If he does something pretty bad with him, that may lead to Maggie's questioning and him getting kicked out of the state police (and, possibly the end of his marriage).  I don't think we know for sure that he was fired, but I don't think he would have just left.

I definitely think that someone in Marty's family is involved.  All signs point to that with the way the daughter has acted though the years; the dolls in the bedroom, the pictures that she drew, and the promiscuity.  The writers have made it pretty obvious that something happened to her at a young age.

Side note:  Did you notice that there were five male dolls with the female doll in the bedroom and that Rust made five figures with the beer cans?  

Edit:  I forgot to add that I think Rust and Marty have been running a game together between 2002 and 2012.  We have already seen that they have no problem lying about big situations and that Rust can go deep undercover.

It looks like Cox is offering an internet+ package that lets you get HBO now.

I feel incredibly bad for the actors and/or actresses (the creator of the show has inferred that it doesn't have to be male characters) that have to follow Harrelson and McConaughey.  I knew McConaughey was on a bit of a comeback after I'd seen movies like "Mud", "Magic Mike" and "Killer Joe", but damn.  Talk about taking the typecast out of your brand.  And I have yet to see either "Dallas Buyers Club" or "Wolf of Wall Street".  Heard he was pretty good in the latter.

This last episode was just so dark, although it resolved why Rust and Marty had their falling out, and, unfortunately, I nailed it early on (no pun intended there).  :)

Wasn't what Rust told that girl in the interrogation room at the very end so incredibly unexpected.  Guess these guys are going for quality over quantity.  Good on them.

That absolutely blew me away.  The other thing that blew me away was that Rust, Marty, and Maggie all lied about the rift between Marty and Rust, and, in turn, about what broke up the marriage.  It's like they all have an unspoken agreement to never talk about it.  I felt like episode 6 was mainly filler (though, it did have its moments).  I think episode 7 is going to be another great one, like episode 5 was.

  I think I should have been British.  Finished up all the Merlin episodes, and recently the only shows I have been watching are DR Who, Downton Abbey, Mrs Fishers Murder Mysteries (which are actually set in Australia), and an assortment of British Comedies.

Me too.

What, no Sherlock? Season 3 was amazing.

I thought the final scene paid so much attention to detail; specifically the final shot of Rust's truck from the tail light perspective (the broken taillight which still remains broken after 10 years).  Cannot wait for Sunday's episode.  I'm surprised HBO is airing a new episode on Sunday given that the Oscars are that night.

Try Foyle's War, Inspector Morse, Inspector Lewis and Mr Selfridge.

All character driven and addictive.

Oh, and Endeavour.

Definitely have liked the few episodes I have seen but by the time I get back from the shop each evening I have about an hour to do any TV watching.  So tend to alternate days between two TV shows and add a little something for variety here and there on those evenings when there is a little extra time. In between remodeling the kitchen and taking care of critters and other chores at home, working on Museum related stuff, trying to get a new store up to snuff, all after my day job, and trying to squeeze in some tiny semblance of friends/family real life stuff,,, taint much time for TV lol.  Sneaking a 10 or 15 minute break on here is about half my social life these days sadly enough.  :P

Great shows all.  Have them on my list after I am done with the ones I am currently on  ;D

I loved when Rust asked if he could buy Marty a drink, then looked at Marty's car, and said that maybe Marty could buy him one, instead.

The Ep 7 preview has me curious as to what Marty sees that gets him all discombobulated.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBvXKe-HMhA[/youtube]

Originally, I thought it probably had something to do with Maggie or one of the daughters.  I don't think Rust would have gone that long without telling Marty if someone in his family was in danger.  I think it, maybe, has something to do with the girl from the bunny ranch.  I found it too convenient that she showed up again.  I still think that the father-in-law is involved somehow, too.  That is what is so great about that show, it keeps you guessing and wanting to know more until the episode.

This is pretty funny: http://www.collegehumor.com/post/6955188/rust-cohle-okcupid-profile-true-detective
It's Rust's OKCupid dating profile.

Is Woody Harrelson in like. Oh I don't know......Everything?

Not really.  Last thing I saw him in was "Now You See Me"..oh and the "Hunger Games" movies.

There's a good chance Woody is going to try and be here for Tulsa Tough this year if it works with his schedule.  He's a huge cycling enthusiast and rode with a friend of mine and ARGUS' in Atlanta while working on the Hunger Games series last fall.  Video of Crybaby Hill apparently was the clincher.

That would be really cool. Hopefully he can make it happen.

I haven't see EP 7 yet, but I can't help but look at the promotional poster as a clue:

It's interesting that the image puts the crown of Marty's head at the top of bottom frame.

(http://digilib.bu.edu/blogs/mugarlib/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/true-detective-poster-202x300.jpg)

For any of you that have recorded the show and haven't seen it yet, avert your eyes, as **spoilers** are ahead...

I was satisfied with the season finale.  Did it tie up loose ends?  Some, but not all of them.

I've been watching numerous reviewers and bloggers dissect the episode; many of them wanted it to be some existential plot twist that was to blame.

In the end, it was just a twisted guy who worshipped everything related to Carcosa and the "King in Yellow".

I think these last two episodes, Harrelson got a chance to show his acting chops.  Sure, McC did well, but Harrelson came off, up until now, as a snooty adulterer with a limited vocabulary and disrepect for women.

I think the line he used with Cohle in the hospital room during their first conversation post-incident sums it up pretty nicely:

Cohle: We didn't get 'em all.
Hart: Yeah, and we ain't gonna get 'em all. That ain't what kind of world it is, but we got ours.

Audio on this video is NSFW:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ5oix-9GA8[/youtube]

I watch Person of Interest and according to the show, a character joined the FBI in order to access the nuclear power facility here in Tulsa.

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I am a little late in getting back to this.  I liked the end of the show, as well.  I have seen it mentioned that the show wasn't about the case, but was about the relationship of Cohle and Hart and how it evolved over the 15 years, and how they evolved as people.  Everything else was just background noise.  I can see that after looking back at how the show unfolded.  If you look at as a conspiracy that was supposed to be solved, the ending would be disappointing.  In that case, the last two episodes seemed very rushed and seemed to be missing a lot of substance after a lot of build up.  I am eagerly awaiting season two.

I wonder where we are hiding that?

I heard that last night and chuckled. The writers must be giggling as well if they've ever visited here. Or, maybe Holly Refinery is actually a cover.......

It's hidden by the "pink cloud".

I'm guessing they picked Tulsa because it's easy for people to hear the name and believe that anything is here or happens here.

Chandler Bing was sent here and people smoked everywhere in the skyscrapers downtown.  Also, according to him, Tulsa is the Paris of Oklahoma.

Who's going to check anything about Tulsa?

Tulsa's new slogan..."We've got that Je ne c'est quoi"

You know that script writers just make things up, don't you? A recent favorite involved runaway railroad cars when the air brakes failed.

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The Hell you say.

Fiction? anyone? anyone?.......Fiction?

Next to the Malaysian 777

Too soon.