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Title: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: patric on March 30, 2013, 10:08:05 am
Making us proud to be Okies.


(Reuters) - Oklahoma took a step toward allowing livestock owners to slaughter horses for food on Friday when the governor signed a bill that permits the practice, but processing plants must first be authorized by the federal government.

Governor Mary Fallin's action legalized the slaughter of horses so that their meat may be prepared and packaged for export. But slaughterhouses must get U.S. Department of Agriculture authorization, Fallin said.

The slaughter of horses for food had been illegal in Oklahoma since 1963 and was carried out only in Texas and Illinois until Congress stopped it in 2006. The congressional ban was lifted in 2011.

Fallin said horse slaughterhouses in Oklahoma would use more humane practices than those in Mexico because they would be inspected by federal authorities.



Maybe dental inspectors in their spare time?
(http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20130330&t=2&i=717577247&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=CBRE92T05TI00)


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: guido911 on March 30, 2013, 02:30:55 pm
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/35401774.jpg)


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: TeeDub on March 30, 2013, 11:08:09 pm

Does this mean I can find it next to "certified angus" in my supermarket now?


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 31, 2013, 07:58:57 pm
Does this mean I can find it next to "certified angus" in my supermarket now?


Certified "Trigger"....
or,
"Hi, ho, Silver!!"



Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: guido911 on March 31, 2013, 09:54:57 pm

Certified "Trigger"....
or,
"Hi, ho, Silver!!"



Heading over to McDs for a quarter horse pounder with cheese. And I'll be looking in what's in those Swedish meatballs now as well.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: guido911 on March 31, 2013, 10:28:44 pm
Fajitas anyone?

http://metro.ca/recette/1601/horse-meat-fajitas.en.html


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Conan71 on April 01, 2013, 10:20:07 am
Heading over to McDs for a quarter horse pounder with cheese. 

Brilliant!

I still don't get what the big deal is, we have beef, chicken, and hog slaughter houses and thousands of unwanted dogs and cats are euthanized in our state every year.  What's the big deal about horses vs. any of the other animals?


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: patric on April 01, 2013, 11:02:12 am
Brilliant!

I still don't get what the big deal is, we have beef, chicken, and hog slaughter houses and thousands of unwanted dogs and cats are euthanized in our state every year.  What's the big deal about horses vs. any of the other animals?

You made a distinction between "slaughter" and "euthanized" there, Skye and Mary dont.

Our society regards horses and dogs differently than we do hogs and cattle.
Dont think so?  Smack a police horse on the butt and see what you get charged with.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Gaspar on April 01, 2013, 12:10:24 pm
You made a distinction between "slaughter" and "euthanized" there, Skye and Mary dont.

Our society regards horses and dogs differently than we do hogs and cattle.
Dont think so?  Smack a police horse on the butt and see what you get charged with.

Aggravated tenderizing?


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Breadburner on April 01, 2013, 01:08:39 pm
Good for Mary for going Green....!!!!


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: guido911 on April 01, 2013, 01:31:23 pm
You made a distinction between "slaughter" and "euthanized" there, Skye and Mary dont.

Our society regards horses and dogs differently than we do hogs and cattle.
Dont think so?  Smack a police horse on the butt and see what you get charged with.

Our society sees many things differently at one point, then there is change. Personally, I do not care about horse meat. I just like reading the conniption/freak out fest. I'm hearing about "self interest motivated", "conflicts of interest", "it's not what the majority wants".


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Conan71 on April 01, 2013, 01:44:55 pm
You made a distinction between "slaughter" and "euthanized" there, Skye and Mary dont.


What's the difference? Dead is dead.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1c/LightningBoltSkull.gif/250px-LightningBoltSkull.gif)


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Gaspar on April 01, 2013, 02:01:27 pm
I'm going to have to start working on my recipe book. :o


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Conan71 on April 01, 2013, 02:05:30 pm
I'm going to have to start working on my recipe book. :o

You think Smokin' Razz would go well with a little equine rib or tenderloin?


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Hoss on April 01, 2013, 02:16:17 pm
Our society sees many things differently at one point, then there is change. Personally, I do not care about horse meat. I just like reading the conniption/freak out fest. I'm hearing about "self interest motivated", "conflicts of interest", "it's not what the majority wants".

Kinda like the freakout I saw yesterday over Googles Doodle being of Cesar Chavez instead of something regarding Easter.

Waiting for the Fox News piece talking about Googles "War on Easter" now...


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Gaspar on April 01, 2013, 03:10:13 pm
You think Smokin' Razz would go well with a little equine rib or tenderloin?

Don't know.  We have a "Black Gold" coming out soon that has quite a punch to it.  It's a blackberry based competition style sauce (much bolder flavor).  If horse is indeed as tender and mild as most claim, it may be an excellent pallet for a bolder sauce.



Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: dbacks fan on April 01, 2013, 04:01:40 pm
Aggravated tenderizing?

Just shot diet coke out of my nose!! :D


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: TheArtist on April 01, 2013, 06:38:42 pm
You made a distinction between "slaughter" and "euthanized" there, Skye and Mary dont.

Our society regards horses and dogs differently than we do hogs and cattle.
Dont think so?  Smack a police horse on the butt and see what you get charged with.

If they were riding cattle would the charge be any different?   


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Vashta Nerada on April 01, 2013, 06:43:32 pm
What's the difference? Dead is dead.


Theres no difference between dying of old age or murder?
Does that also apply to people?


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 01, 2013, 07:10:49 pm
If they were riding cattle would the charge be any different?   

Mongo!!!

Ride 'em to the butcher shop, then eat 'em!!  If you happen to slug a horse along the way, take it with ya!

Good times....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28khv-BydeY


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: guido911 on April 01, 2013, 07:49:20 pm
Leave it to Hoss to drag Easter and Fox News into this thread. On the other hand, if he thinks this thread needed a good douching...


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Hoss on April 01, 2013, 08:01:18 pm
Leave it to Hoss to drag Easter and Fox News into this thread. On the other hand, if he thinks this thread needed a good douching...

Hey counselor, you were the one to mention the 'freakouts'.  I just had to balance it.  Can't have you dooshing it up on one side without a counterbalance, now..can we?


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Red Arrow on April 01, 2013, 10:43:35 pm
Kinda like the freakout I saw yesterday over Googles Doodle being of Cesar Chavez instead of something regarding Easter.

Waiting for the Fox News piece talking about Googles "War on Easter" now...


I had other things to do yesterday.  What freakout?


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Hoss on April 01, 2013, 11:00:22 pm
http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/conservative_outraged_by_cesar_chevaz_google_doodle_on_easter_20130331/

Funny more, evidently Malkin thought initially they were honoring HUGO Chavez instead of Cesar Chavez.  You know, the now-dead Venezuelan dictator?  Here are some other people who thought the same:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/louispeitzman/people-who-think-google-is-honoring-hugo-chavez

Facepalm.  It's Google's site.  Google is international.  I could have cared less what they put up.  I guess some people get butt-hurt easy.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: guido911 on April 01, 2013, 11:22:56 pm
^^^^^

(http://reformaliberal.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/double-down.jpg?w=450&h=324)


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: guido911 on April 01, 2013, 11:31:17 pm
I had other things to do yesterday.  What freakout?

Apparently in this thread we needed to discuss Easter and how Google thought it was a good idea to note Cesar Chavez day on its website. Since you didn't hear about it, apparently you never freaked out. Just move along.
 


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Breadburner on April 01, 2013, 11:35:08 pm
He CjC'd him-self.....Again.....


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Hoss on April 01, 2013, 11:36:24 pm
I'll just say no less than four of my 'right-leaning' friends on FB freaked out about it.  That was enough for me.  If you didn't...then good for you.

Now, you and BB get back to your slumber party.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: dbacks fan on April 01, 2013, 11:42:49 pm
I'll just say no less than four of my 'right-leaning' friends on FB freaked out about it.  That was enough for me.  If you didn't...then good for you.

Now, you and BB get back to your slumber party.

Didn't even phase me. Guess that's what happens when you spend 13 years in the southwest you know who Cesar Chavez is.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Hoss on April 02, 2013, 12:19:12 am
Didn't even phase me. Guess that's what happens when you spend 13 years in the southwest you know who Cesar Chavez is.

Guess so.  To be honest, I didn't even remember who he was until I looked him up.  I wouldn't have even known about it if I'd have stayed away from FB on Sunday.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: dbacks fan on April 02, 2013, 12:50:36 am
Guess so.  To be honest, I didn't even remember who he was until I looked him up.  I wouldn't have even known about it if I'd have stayed away from FB on Sunday.

Look up Cesar Chavez Park, Phoenix, AZ on Google earth. Cesar Chavez High School next to it rivals some of the community colleges in the area.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Gaspar on April 02, 2013, 05:46:58 am
If they were riding cattle would the charge be any different?   

It happens.  My grandmother had a cow she could ride.

Look!  That's her now.
(http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20110405/640/riding_cow_like_640_04.jpg)

Nothing better than a good jumping cow.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 02, 2013, 06:18:53 am
It happens.  My grandmother had a cow she could ride.

Look!  That's her now.


Nothing better than a good jumping cow.


Steak!  Yum!

Anybody know if I can get some water buffalo in town?



Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Breadburner on April 02, 2013, 06:45:08 am
"Could I borrow your towel"...? "My car just hit a Water Buffalo"...!!


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Conan71 on April 02, 2013, 07:54:09 am
Didn't even phase me. Guess that's what happens when you spend 13 years in the southwest you know who Cesar Chavez is.

Didn't he make a salad dressing or something like that?


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: guido911 on April 02, 2013, 03:30:08 pm
He CjC'd him-self.....Again.....

I think we have just introduced a new verb into the lexicon "CjC'd"


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: patric on April 07, 2013, 12:54:27 pm
Oklahoma lawmakers and Gov. Mary Fallin might have thought that quick passage of the horse slaughter bill would bring the controversy to an end. Instead, they probably just guaranteed that the controversy will continue to drag on, perhaps for years.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Adoption_of_horse_slaughter_measure_doesnt_resolve/20130407_211_G1_ULNSeg38012

Pending federal legislation would ban the slaughter of American horses for human consumption and prohibit transporting them across the U.S. border to Mexican and Canadian slaughterhouses.  The measure, called the Safeguard American Food Exports Act, is in part a response to reports that horse meat has been found in food products in Europe and wrongly identified as beef.

The reason Oklahoma leaders adopted a ban on horse slaughter for human consumption in Oklahoma, according to the report, was because it was found in what was supposed to be beef hamburgers in a couple of fast-food restaurants back in the early 1960s.



Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: sauerkraut on April 13, 2013, 12:41:06 pm
I don't have any issues with this, like they said many of the horses are in grim shape and if they are NOT slautered here they will go to another state for the slauter. Mary Fallin signed the bill.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: RecycleMichael on April 13, 2013, 05:20:32 pm
I don't have any issues with this, like they said many of the horses are in grim shape and if they are NOT slautered here they will go to another state for the slauter. Mary Fallin signed the bill.

How could you be so wrong? Do you actually ever try to research and learn anything before you post your thoughts?

It is illegal to do this in every other state.

Next time you want to post a thought, let it go.


Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: TeeDub on April 15, 2013, 10:02:29 am

Who cares what shape the horses are in?    If the slaughterhouse is willing to pay more than someone else to turn it into dog food/gellatin/glue/whatever than don't they deserve the ability to do it and turn a profit?

I don't see people up in arms trying to protect cows or pigs, but then again, I guess they aren't as cute.



Title: Re: Horsemeat Mary Signs Slauterhouse Legislation
Post by: Red Arrow on April 15, 2013, 11:33:35 am
I don't see people up in arms trying to protect cows or pigs, but then again, I guess they aren't as cute.

Arnold from Green Acres would probably have disagreed.