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Title: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on July 12, 2012, 11:29:00 am
New York Cosmos Join NASL
Storied Club to Resume Play in 2013
Posted on Thu, Jul 12, 2012

http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=3&newsid=2779

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Over two days of meetings, that concluded today, the NASL Board of Governors also addressed a variety of league matters, including hearing presentations from a record number of potential expansion team owners and discussing possible changes to the league’s competition structure for upcoming seasons.

The Cosmos ownership group New York Cosmos LLC is an international partnership led by industry veteran Seamus O’Brien. They are committed to putting the brand back at the forefront of North American soccer. The New York Cosmos began play in 1971, spending fourteen seasons in the earlier NASL, winning five Soccer Bowl trophies and bringing some of the biggest names in world soccer history to North America.  The Cosmos last won the NASL Soccer Bowl in 1982.

 "We are extremely proud to welcome the New York Cosmos to the North American Soccer League," said NASL Commissioner David Downs. "As we continue to expand the league and help grow professional soccer in the United States, Canada and the Caribbean, the Cosmos brand and their strong ownership group are a perfect fit with us.  The history of the Cosmos and soccer in the New York City area are intertwined.  Bringing the Cosmos into the NASL is a logical next step as we embrace the heritage of our own past and now reunite the Cosmos, Strikers, Rowdies and several markets with ties to the NASL’s early days.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1M7as42uBw[/youtube]


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back.
Post by: Teatownclown on July 12, 2012, 12:05:06 pm
+1

Let's go 'Necks! ;)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on July 12, 2012, 12:39:33 pm
Now thats cool. The dreaded Cosmos are back. I hated everytime we played them. They were the "Miami Heat" of the NASL.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on July 12, 2012, 12:54:15 pm
Scorpions to Celebrate NASL Heritage with Flashback Night
July 5, 2012 - North American Soccer League (NASL) San Antonio Scorpions

http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=4439821

San Antonio, TX (July 5, 2012) - The San Antonio Scorpions will pay tribute to the city's professional soccer history during their next home match with the San Antonio Thunder Flashback Night presented by Liberty Mutual.

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The team will celebrate its North American Soccer League history in San Antonio when they take on the Fort Lauderdale Strikers, an original NASL team, on Saturday, July 21. Kickoff for the match is set for 7:30 p.m. at Heroes Stadium.

"We want to take the time to remember the roots of professional soccer in San Antonio," Scorpions President Michael Hitchcock said. "Before the Scorpions, it had been 36 years since a team in San Antonio played in the NASL and we want to celebrate the legacy that began in those exciting days for soccer fans in this country. Plus our fans will pay 1976 prices so tickets start at only $4, hot dogs & sodas are only $1 and Parking is free; just like in 1976. Needless to say, this will be the best sports value for San Antonio families in 2012."

On March 31, 1976, the San Antonio Thunder beat the New York Cosmos in San Antonio at Alamo Stadium to kick off the 1976 NASL season.
For the Scorpions match with the Strikers on July 21, the team is rolling back the clock and offering fans tickets, food, parking and merchandise at 1976 pricing.

1976(https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3r3GZHYeu37DegCHspGmPIl7TeLXzQVTu1ovXTVb19Z2M-p1j)   2012(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRm42i2PxCv4EBMmv6HDoZeP8-QloqVuImXodX06ScZIfaKCL-v)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on July 14, 2012, 08:07:26 am
New York Cosmos' return to NASL is the first step to franchise revival
by Grant Wahl

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/grant_wahl/07/13/new-york-cosmos/index.html

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On Thursday, they announced that the Cosmos will join the NASL, the second-tier domestic soccer league, in 2013. Reports say that the team will play in Hofstra's modest stadium, and the six employees suggest a heavy dose of restraint.

O'Brien, for his part, is quick to distance himself from Kemsley. "When I say something, it happens, and if it isn't I won't say it," he told me. "We won't say anything we're not going to deliver on, so you're not going to get hyperbole and big, grandiose lunatic statements that might have been the mantra of the past. You're going to get facts and reality."

MLS commissioner Don Garber also vouched for O'Brien when I spoke to him on Thursday. "I have spent quite a bit of time with Seamus and his partners, and I think they're terrific," Garber said. "[Joining the NASL] shows they're serious about being real, that it's more than a merchandising play. It's about being a club and having a team with players on the ground and trying to develop a fan base."

MLS has been clear that it wants the league's 20th team to be a second New York City-area outfit, but the process is an unusual one. MLS owners want to build a new soccer stadium first -- reportedly in the Flushing Meadows area -- and then hold an auction between ownership groups vying to join the league. The idea is to draw an expansion fee of up to $100 million.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: guido911 on July 14, 2012, 02:08:41 pm
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xLn-X8YJRg[/youtube]


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on July 14, 2012, 05:17:32 pm
What are you?  Twelve?

Here ya go, troll....
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=19184.0


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: guido911 on July 14, 2012, 07:13:47 pm
What are you?  Twelve?

Here ya go, troll....
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=19184.0

What are you, a humorless, deuce-stain? Oh wait, you are. Sorry. Moving along.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Ed W on July 15, 2012, 08:59:50 am
Now thats cool. The dreaded Cosmos are back. I hated everytime we played them. They were the "Miami Heat" of the NASL.

Would you play against these Cosmos?

(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyUnUDYPvPEbxmyLz75jwuv-dtvFz1yiDIt3KummmNaV_094jO)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on July 16, 2012, 07:43:48 am
Would you play against these Cosmos?

(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyUnUDYPvPEbxmyLz75jwuv-dtvFz1yiDIt3KummmNaV_094jO)

Not the ones that answer those d@mn quizzes.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on August 11, 2012, 11:56:14 am
Would you play against these Cosmos?

(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRyUnUDYPvPEbxmyLz75jwuv-dtvFz1yiDIt3KummmNaV_094jO)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=27ZctTlE3Rs&feature=endscreen[/youtube]


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on February 28, 2013, 02:37:43 pm
A computer-animated stadium proposal... ooh... aaah... golf clap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MzjIjRxshGQ

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130116/new-york-cosmos-stadium/
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130116094844-new-york-cosmos-stadium-single-image-cut.jpg)

http://nycosmos.com/news



Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Teatownclown on February 28, 2013, 03:32:06 pm
A computer-animated stadium proposal... ooh... aaah... golf clap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MzjIjRxshGQ

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130116/new-york-cosmos-stadium/
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/130116094844-new-york-cosmos-stadium-single-image-cut.jpg)

http://nycosmos.com/news



LOVE YOUR TUDE, RUFF!


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Conan71 on February 28, 2013, 03:42:09 pm
LOVE YOUR TUDE, RUFF!

What? No screed about too many venues chasing too few entertainment dollars or waste of public funds on public facilities?


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on February 28, 2013, 08:40:07 pm
What? No screed about too many venues chasing too few entertainment dollars or waste of public funds on public facilities?

Well, TTC appears to have scooped me on something that is close to happening in the local soccer sphere... nothing earthshattering... details to come...

Also... this proposed NY Cosmos stadium appears, at first glance, to be privately funded.

MLS's business model from the very beginning involved eventually constructing and controlling their own stadia, similar to how AAA baseball pushed for new stadiums in the 90s.
That may explain why a certain gentleman with the last name "Rooney" was an integral part of Charlie Mitchell's original MLS bid group in the early 90s.

If a stadium is publicly funded, then the government can't afford to have its prime tenant fail by jacking up the rent and asking for unreasonable concessions. (and I do mean that literally)
If a stadium is privately funded, then the ownership group has spent too much money to have its franchise fail.
And if a stadium has one of those fancy-schmancy public/private partnerships, then neither the govt nor the private sector can afford to allow it to fail, at least in the short-term.

The newest wrinkle is the construction/modification of stadiums for minor league soccer...

... new and privately funded in San Antonio... http://tpr.org/post/san-antonio-scorpions-toyota-field-nears-completion
(http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kstx/files/styles/card_wide/public/201301/Toyota-Field-rendering-130124.JPG)

... a refurb to be shared with a CFL team in Ottawa... http://www.ottawafuryfc.com/index.php?id=630&newsid=3771
(http://www.ottawafuryfc.com/images/ezthumb.php?src=http://nasl.ezitsolutions.com/news_images/1361911468_a.jpg&w=900&q=100)

... this one shared with a new ballclub in Virginia... http://www.virginiacavalry.com/
(http://www.virginiacavalry.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Soccer_Field-640x360.jpg)

... and Indianapolis is trying to work within the confines of an older 12k capacity soccer/track&field facility overlooking downtown at IUPUI... http://indyprosoccer.com/club/carroll-stadium-soccer-field-2/
(http://indyprosoccer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/caroll-360.jpg)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on March 06, 2013, 02:58:32 pm
Soccer's Battle for New York
While a Deal for a Second MLS Stadium Crawls Along, a Rival Team With a Famous Name Gears Up
 Updated March 5, 2013, 9:44 p.m. ET

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324678604578342361206307872.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

BTW.... rumblings at the old ballpark... the field is getting some tlc.....  ;D


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Teatownclown on April 04, 2013, 05:20:04 pm
http://www.newson6.com/story/21884478/national-premiere-soccer-league-coming-to-tulsas-old-drillers-stadium

Go Sonny and T. Kern!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Something new for Tulsa. Hard work with no subsidy.

Please support these hard working owners!


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Conan71 on April 04, 2013, 06:41:06 pm
http://www.newson6.com/story/21884478/national-premiere-soccer-league-coming-to-tulsas-old-drillers-stadium

Go Sonny and T. Kern!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Something new for Tulsa. Hard work with no subsidy.

Please support these hard working owners!

Great news!

Can we get canoli in the concession stands?


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Teatownclown on April 04, 2013, 07:11:50 pm
I wish, but after visiting briefly with one of the owners it's apparent that the concessions are controlled by the county....

pirates smuggle, however.....


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: sgrizzle on April 05, 2013, 06:06:14 am
Wait, the team is called the "Athletics"?


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on April 05, 2013, 06:58:58 am
Yep.  They kept the basic logo scheme from Sonny's old team... http://www.bostonavenueathleticclub.com/

We're putting together a group of certifiable lunatics... https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tulsa-Athletics-Supporters-Group/557946457578457?fref=ts

Well, at least my shirt was on tv... http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/sports/local_sports/professional-soccer-team-to-move-to-tulsa-play-as-tulsa-athletics
Evidently, I have a face for radio...

We'd love to have some great tailgates, but knowing the county, we'll probably need to have them in the Lowe's parking lot... doh.

We were thinking about having our first supporters group meeting at Fassler Hall, but were told that place is a sausage fest.   8)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on April 05, 2013, 09:51:54 am
I wish, but after visiting briefly with one of the owners it's apparent that the concessions are controlled by the county....

pirates smuggle, however.....

....... or start early.   ;D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSPv8vu7ldM[/youtube]


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: dioscorides on April 05, 2013, 11:29:26 am
just bought 2 season tickets!


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on April 05, 2013, 02:59:48 pm
How many more teams are projected to join the league?


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on April 06, 2013, 08:30:03 am
Depends on if you're asking about the new NASL... http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=13
They currently have 8 teams in a split season, NY Cosmos will start competing in the second half of the season... but by 2014 the league will have 12 teams.

The NPSL technically has 61 teams, and we're in the South Central Division.  http://www.nationalpremiersoccerleague.com/teams/index_E.html
Because everything is on a low budget, our 12-game schedule will involve 2 home and 2 road games against opponents in our division... 1 team in Dallas and 2 teams in Houston.
There are playoffs at the end of the season... tickets are $5 and $10 and maybe even cheaper if you'd like to stand and cheer through the entire game...
http://tulsaroughnecks.com/Tulsa_Athletics_NPSL.php

Gotta start somewhere.   :)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: JCnOwasso on April 09, 2013, 02:09:44 pm
Great interview on 1430, looks like some big news coming up!


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on April 19, 2013, 01:10:41 pm
Great interview on 1430, looks like some big news coming up!

Announcement was scheduled for today, but will likely be bumped to next week in deference to the tragedy in Boston.

Grass is getting greener.... one month to opening day....

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/537002_472126099526554_133844044_n.jpg)

We're almost at 1,000 likes on FB... https://www.facebook.com/ttownsoccer?fref=ts


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on April 26, 2013, 10:19:13 am
Great interview on 1430, looks like some big news coming up!

http://www.tulsa-athletics.com/news/club-america-comes-to-tulsa/


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: dioscorides on April 26, 2013, 10:47:50 am
http://www.tulsa-athletics.com/news/club-america-comes-to-tulsa/


I bought 2 tickets yesterday.  It should be fun!


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: RecycleMichael on April 26, 2013, 03:28:21 pm
I want to buy tickets with others so we all have seats together?

Let me know and next Friday we can buy them together.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on April 26, 2013, 03:53:49 pm
I want to buy tickets with others so we all have seats together?

Let me know and next Friday we can buy them together.

They're reserved?


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on May 01, 2013, 05:35:18 pm
FYI, almost all of the lower level seating is $10 reserved except for a couple of sections by far right field that have excellent views of... the beer garden.   8)
All upper level seating is $5 general admission.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on May 20, 2013, 10:04:42 am
What is the report on you're first game/victory at the old Drillers Stadium?
Did it go as well as planned?


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on May 20, 2013, 10:37:57 am
It went so well it deserves its own thread...  ;D


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on May 21, 2013, 11:16:29 am
Don't look now, but...

Manchester City and Yankees to Own M.L.S. Club in New York
By KEN BELSON and CHARLES V. BAGLI
Published: May 21, 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/22/sports/soccer/manchester-city-and-yankees-to-own-mls-franchise-in-new-york.html?_r=0

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The New York metropolitan area, already packed with professional sports teams, will soon get another: a Major League Soccer team owned by Manchester City of the English Premier League and the Yankees.  Manchester City, which is owned by Sheik Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan, will be the latest foreign owner of a team in the New York metropolitan area.

The team, to be known as the New York City Football Club, will be the 20th Major League Soccer club and expects to begin competing in 2015, assuming it can find a stadium to play in.

The announcement on Tuesday by Major League Soccer confirmed speculation that Manchester City would spend about $100 million to buy the expansion team. The English team, which is owned by an investment group led by a member of the royal family of Abu Dhabi, Sheik Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan, will be the latest foreign owner of a team in the New York metropolitan area. It will join hands with the Yankees, one of the wealthiest and best known teams in American sports.

Manchester City will be the majority owner of the new club, while the Yankees will own about a quarter of the team.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on June 14, 2013, 09:02:52 am
NASL Commissioner Bill Peterson was on NASN's Soccer morning show yesterday and has apparently stated that the NASL is planning for 14 teams by 2015.
He mentioned the league is in discussions with potential investment groups for expansion into Jacksonville, Oklahoma City and the Los Angeles area as well as other groups.

Plugged In: Bill Peterson, NASL commissioner
Published March 25, 2013
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2013/03/25/People-and-Pop-Culture/Plugged-In.aspx


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: BoscoTJones on June 28, 2013, 02:19:05 pm
NASL Commissioner Bill Peterson was on NASN's Soccer morning show yesterday and has apparently stated that the NASL is planning for 14 teams by 2015.
He mentioned the league is in discussions with potential investment groups for expansion into Jacksonville, Oklahoma City and the Los Angeles area as well as other groups.

I followed NASL Commish Peterson on Twitter and he followed me back.  So I sent him a direct message to thank him for the follow and mentioned how I wish we could get a team back in Tulsa.  He replied "Would OKC satisfy the fans?".  Not me.  An MLS team in OKC would be something I would follow but not a tier 2 team.  Now in Tulsa, I would be all over it. 


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on August 03, 2013, 09:09:04 pm
Game Recap: New York Cosmos 2 Fort Lauderdale Strikers 1
Posted on Sat, Aug 3, 2013
http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=3&newsid=5112

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Alessandro Noselli struck in the second minute of second-half stoppage time to blast the New York Cosmos to a dramatic 2-1 victory over the Fort Lauderdale Strikers in the North American Soccer League fall season opener in front of a sellout crowd of 11,929 at Shuart Stadium on the campus of Hofstra University Saturday night.

Before the Cosmos’ first match in nearly 30 years, legends Pele, Carlos Alberto and the late Giorgio Chinaglia, represented by his son George, were honored.

Pele, Carlos Alberto, Cosmos legend Shep Messing, NASL Commissioner Bill Peterson and former Strikers star midfielder Teofilo “Nene” Cubillas greeted the teams before the match.
(http://nycosmos.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/content_gallery_image/sites/default/files/content-images/galleries/175317108_MS_4052_AD19982B8D7EF8A43B46A49E5559C922.jpg)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DowntownDan on August 07, 2013, 12:22:02 pm
So if NASL were to move to Tulsa would the Athletics move up or would it be a seperate group and a revival of the Roughnecks name?  And could they play at Drillers Stadium?  I really enjoy the setup at Drillers stadium.  And depending on their success, maybe they could find a way to justify a soccer specific stadium downtown with 10K seats expandable if interest increases.  It doesn't need to be as fancy as OneOk field and could probably be built at a very reasonable price.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on August 11, 2013, 11:58:32 am
So if NASL were to move to Tulsa would the Athletics move up or would it be a seperate group and a revival of the Roughnecks name?  And could they play at Drillers Stadium?  I really enjoy the setup at Drillers stadium.  And depending on their success, maybe they could find a way to justify a soccer specific stadium downtown with 10K seats expandable if interest increases.  It doesn't need to be as fancy as OneOk field and could probably be built at a very reasonable price.

Depends on who has the money and what their concept is for the team... ever since this new NASL split from the USL system of minor league soccer in the fall of 2009 and added the Tampa Bay Rowdies, I've felt this was the only league other than MLS where a revival of the Roughnecks name would make sense.  Quite a few of the A's fans who remember the old Roughnecks are hesitant to bring back the old name.  God knows I've argued for years that the setup at Drillers Stadium is perfect for this particular league (intimate & really close to the action on the lower level with great sitelines from the upper deck).  The old Drillers Stadium would also fit in well with the other venues in this league...

Tampa Bay Rowdies 0 New York Cosmos 0
Posted on Sat, Aug 10, 2013
http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=3&newsid=5177
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The Tampa Bay Rowdies played to a scoreless draw against the visiting New York Cosmos in front of a sold out crowd of 7,032 at Al Lang Stadium in St. Petersburg, Fla. on Saturday night.
http://rowdiessoccer.com/
http://nycosmos.com/news/photo-gallery-tampa-bay-rowdies-0-0-new-york-cosmos

(http://nycosmos.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/content_gallery_image/sites/default/files/content-images/galleries/130810_MM_Rowdies_Cosmos_WEB_0010.JPG)(http://rowdiessoccer.com/images/ezthumb.php?src=http://nasl.ezitsolutions.com/news_images/1347464682_a.jpg&w=650)

I feel the Hurricane Soccer/Track & Field Stadium is too small, has inconvenient parking options, and couldn't be expanded much beyond a couple of thousand seats... I think Chapman Stadium is too big, for now at least-- also the field at Chapman is too narrow and has permanent football markings on it... but if it was up to me, I'd be negotiating with the County for concessions (both figuratively AND literally), and would LOVE to arrange for a game or two against the NY Cosmos to be played at Chapman Stadium.  It'd be great to be able to say that our crowds are "too big" for old Drillers Stadium and that the field dimensions at Chapman Stadium leave us in need of a suitable stadium solution (preferably downtown a few blocks from Fassler Hall)...  ;D

BTW, we're gearing up for a 30-year reunion for Tulsa Sports Charities on Monday, Oct. 14th...
http://www.tulsasportscharities.org/blog-charlie-mitchell-to-talk-soccer-at-august-lunch/
http://www.tulsasportscharities.org/245/
http://www.tulsaworld.com/site/printerfriendlystory.aspx?articleid=20130804_29_B2_Thetha574008


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DowntownDan on August 12, 2013, 02:52:38 pm
Depends on who has the money and what their concept is for the team... ever since this new NASL split from the USL system of minor league soccer in the fall of 2009 and added the Tampa Bay Rowdies, I've felt this was the only league other than MLS where a revival of the Roughnecks name would make sense.  Quite a few of the A's fans who remember the old Roughnecks are hesitant to bring back the old name.  God knows I've argued for years that the setup at Drillers Stadium is perfect for this particular league (intimate & really close to the action on the lower level with great sitelines from the upper deck).  The old Drillers Stadium would also fit in well with the other venues in this league...

Tampa Bay Rowdies 0 New York Cosmos 0
Posted on Sat, Aug 10, 2013
http://www.nasl.com/index.php?id=3&newsid=5177 http://rowdiessoccer.com/
http://nycosmos.com/news/photo-gallery-tampa-bay-rowdies-0-0-new-york-cosmos

(http://nycosmos.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/content_gallery_image/sites/default/files/content-images/galleries/130810_MM_Rowdies_Cosmos_WEB_0010.JPG)(http://rowdiessoccer.com/images/ezthumb.php?src=http://nasl.ezitsolutions.com/news_images/1347464682_a.jpg&w=650)

I feel the Hurricane Soccer/Track & Field Stadium is too small, has inconvenient parking options, and couldn't be expanded much beyond a couple of thousand seats... I think Chapman Stadium is too big, for now at least-- also the field at Chapman is too narrow and has permanent football markings on it... but if it was up to me, I'd be negotiating with the County for concessions (both figuratively AND literally), and would LOVE to arrange for a game or two against the NY Cosmos to be played at Chapman Stadium.  It'd be great to be able to say that our crowds are "too big" for old Drillers Stadium and that the field dimensions at Chapman Stadium leave us in need of a suitable stadium solution (preferably downtown a few blocks from Fassler Hall)...  ;D

BTW, we're gearing up for a 30-year reunion for Tulsa Sports Charities on Monday, Oct. 14th...
http://www.tulsasportscharities.org/blog-charlie-mitchell-to-talk-soccer-at-august-lunch/
http://www.tulsasportscharities.org/245/
http://www.tulsaworld.com/site/printerfriendlystory.aspx?articleid=20130804_29_B2_Thetha574008

I really like the setup at Driller's Stadium.  It's even better than this setup because the stands go all the way down the baseline so the entire third base line stands go from end to end across the field.  I've sat on the first base side and it is also a good view.  And depending on their popularity they can always expand the outfield stands to a permanent or quasi-permanent stand of bleachers.  And could Chapman Stadium even hold a soccer field?  I know a lot of stadiums that have been recently renovated have had the stands moved closer to the sidelines to the point that it can't really hold a soccer field.  Plus, as you mentioned, the permanent football markings would be annoying.  I say Driller's Stadium and leave open the possibility of a soccer specific stadium for downtown.  Never stop pursuing MLS even if it's a longshot. 


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: BoscoTJones on August 19, 2013, 09:23:05 am
So if NASL were to move to Tulsa would the Athletics move up or would it be a seperate group and a revival of the Roughnecks name?  And could they play at Drillers Stadium?  I really enjoy the setup at Drillers stadium.  And depending on their success, maybe they could find a way to justify a soccer specific stadium downtown with 10K seats expandable if interest increases.  It doesn't need to be as fancy as OneOk field and could probably be built at a very reasonable price.

I was thinking about where in Downtown Tulsa a soccer stadium could be built.  After looking at Google Maps for hours, I found this little industrial area just across the RR tracks from OSU-Tulsa.  Then I decided to do some Photoshop work and place PPL Park (the MLS home of the Philadelphia Union) into that spot on the map, using the same scale.  That park holds 18,500.    I even added some more parking for good measure.  This is the result:

(http://i.imgur.com/J14SegG.jpg)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: rdj on August 19, 2013, 10:09:08 am
What became OneOK Field was almost in this location.  Wouldn't be the worst place in my mind for a stadium.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: BoscoTJones on August 19, 2013, 12:22:00 pm
Interesting note re: soccer interest in Tulsa:  Tulsa had the 2nd highest TV rating for the Swansea-Man U game on Saturday.  http://www.sbnation.com/2013/8/18/4633606/premier-league-improved-ratings-on-nbc-nbcsn


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on September 27, 2013, 11:05:56 pm
Don't look now... but... OKC's Bob Funk Jr. makes a move in the "Funk versus Lund" soccer feud...

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4806:71rlav.1.1

Word Mark TULSA ROUGHNECKS FC
Goods and Services IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment services, namely, organizing, providing and conducting professional soccer exhibitions and games
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Serial Number 86069516
Filing Date September 19, 2013
Current Basis 1B
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Owner (APPLICANT) Prodigal Soccer LLC LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY OKLAHOMA 615 N. Hudson, Suite 100 Oklahoma City OKLAHOMA 73102
Attorney of Record Harvey L. Yusman
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Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on October 03, 2013, 12:42:21 am
"Let's do the timewarp again"...... the NY Cosmos versus the Tampa Bay Rowdies..... and they're wearing the same jerseys....  ;D

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSpDmzQ0Hro&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Minnesota United FC advertisement... "It's been 32 years..." [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYA10n-Yx0o[/youtube]

Btw, thirty years ago... October 1st, 1983, the Tulsa Roughnecks defeated the Toronto Blizzard 2-0 in the Soccer Bowl at BC Place Stadium in Vancouver in front of over 60k fans.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QubCSWZanEQ[/youtube]


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DowntownDan on October 03, 2013, 12:36:51 pm
If they build a stadium in the suburbs it is doomed to fail.  If this is going to happen it needs to be in downtown, or not at all.  I prefer the Athletics at Drillers stadium then something like the Spiritbank Center surrounded by Target and McDonalds.

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John Klein: Lund is hopeful soccer-crazed Tulsa can get NASL team

By JOHN KLEIN Senior Sports Columnist | Posted: Thursday, October 3, 2013 12:00 am

Jeff Lund was there 21 years ago when Ray and Monte Miron revived the Central Hockey League and brought the Tulsa Ice Oilers back to life.

Lund says it is the perfect time for a similar revival.

Lund is part of a group that plans to bring the Tulsa Roughnecks soccer team and the NASL back to Tulsa as early as the spring of 2015.

"I look at this situation and it is very similar to what we saw with bringing the Oilers back to town," Lund said. "I think the timing is right for this to happen."

Lund says an ownership group in Oklahoma City that's planning on bringing an NASL franchise there in 2015 has started the process to put a team in Tulsa, too.

Lund is the local director of the effort, along with Tulsa businessman Warren Ross.

The effort to land an NASL franchise for Tulsa remains in the infancy stages, but the local group is way past a preliminary study. They have been in discussions with the University of Tulsa to use Chapman Stadium as a temporary home until a soccer-specific stadium can be funded and built somewhere in the metropolitan area.

The group, which hopes to secure the rights to the Roughnecks name, has met with Tulsa's two mayoral candidates and at least one suburban city.

"I feel very confident at this point that we will be granted a franchise," Lund said. "We are pretty far down that road.

"Tulsa has a lot going for it. Primary among the reasons is the great success the Roughnecks had in the old NASL."

It is ironic that a movement to revive the Roughnecks and the NASL comes at the same time that a celebration is being planned this month to commemorate the Roughnecks' NASL championship 30 years ago.

There are issues, however.

The NASL prefers metropolitan areas of at least 1 million people and Tulsa falls just a little short of that.

Plus, the NASL prefers soccer-specific stadiums, although not on as grand a scale as the MLS. The minimum seating capacity required by the NASL is 8,500. The MLS prefers soccer-specific stadiums that seat around 20,000 or more.

However, the local group has been told that a temporary home, such as Chapman, would be approved.

Yet, there is no deal with TU. Lund admitted they are looking at several stadiums in the Tulsa metro area.

Oklahoma City's NASL team plans to play at Taft Stadium, home to Oklahoma City public schools football for many years.

"I feel good about us finding a temporary home that will fulfill the requirements of the NASL," Lund said.

A soccer-specific stadium that seats 10,000-12,000 fans would cost in the neighborhood of $50 million-$60 million. Lund said it would be built with the idea of expansion to more than 20,000 seats in hopes of eventually landing an MLS franchise.

"There's no doubt in my mind that Tulsa would be a very successful MLS city, just like it was a very successful NASL franchise back 30 years ago," Lund said. "The times have obviously changed. We need to build ourself back up to the major league level of soccer, but there's no doubt in my mind that Tulsa would do that."

The group hoping to bring the Roughnecks back to Tulsa believe the 30,000 youth soccer players in the Tulsa metro area give them hope for immediate success.

"When we brought the Oilers back, there were about 50 youth hockey players in town," Lund said. "There are 30,000 youth soccer players in the Tulsa area. That is a huge number compared to any city in the country."

It is believed the NASL is more than happy to waive any market-size requirements because of Tulsa's successful history in the NASL and how close Tulsa is to the preferred 1 million in population.

The biggest hurdle may be trying to land support for a soccer-specific stadium.

The idea of building a soccer-specific stadium to lure an MLS team has been discussed in the past but was abandoned because of lack of public support.

In fact, Tulsa was approached several times in the past 15 years by the MLS about building a soccer-specific stadium to put a franchise in this city.

Tulsa declined to build a stadium, primarily because of uncertainty about the future of the MLS.

It is the success of the MLS in recent years that has helped spur an interest in so-called minor league soccer across the country.

It is very similar to the early 1990s when the NHL was hot with fans and spurred a minor league hockey boom.

That boom has fizzled in recent years as the NHL has dwindled in popularity.

"I think the success of the MLS has caused this great interest in soccer all across the country," Lund said. "You have cities all over the country wanting to get involved in soccer at some level.

"Seriously, when I look at the current situation of soccer, it reminds me so much of the attitude toward hockey when the CHL was brought back to life. A lot of cities wanted a minor league hockey team just like a lot of cities want a soccer team right now."


Title: Re: Re: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Hoss on October 03, 2013, 01:29:36 pm
If they build a stadium in the suburbs it is doomed to fail.  If this is going to happen it needs to be in downtown, or not at all.  I prefer the Athletics at Drillers stadium then something like the Spiritbank Center surrounded by Target and McDonalds.

Oh lord.  Big mistake to allow Jeff anywhere near a sports franchise. 

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Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DowntownDan on October 03, 2013, 01:37:23 pm
I like the Athletics.  I say go big or go home.  Pursue MLS and a downtown soccer specific stadium.  If we get NASL at the same time as OKC, OKC will also pursue MLS and will assuredly beat us to the punch and at that point MLS will say the state is saturated.  The A's at Drillers Stadium works in the interim. 


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on October 06, 2013, 09:45:06 pm
Does this mean, in your opinion, that the Prodigal group is moving toward setting up a USL team franchise in Tulsa?  

Hard to say.  Could just be a cheap ploy to throw a wrench into Brad and Jeff Lund's plans...


Oh lord.  Big mistake to allow Jeff anywhere near a sports franchise.  

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+1


I like the Athletics.  I say go big or go home.  Pursue MLS and a downtown soccer specific stadium.  If we get NASL at the same time as OKC, OKC will also pursue MLS and will assuredly beat us to the punch and at that point MLS will say the state is saturated.  The A's at Drillers Stadium works in the interim.  

IMO, Drillers Stadium is going to be the best venue in most scenarios... here are the average per game attendances for the fall season in the NASL...

New York Cosmos - 7396
San Antonio Scorpions - 6540
Carolina Railhawks - 4551
Ft Lauderdale Strikers - 4253
Tampa Bay Rowdies - 4237
Minnesota United - 4210
Atlanta Silverbacks - 4109
FC Edmonton - 2543

Drillers Stadium holds 10,997 but I'd guess there are probably somewhere between 2,000 and 3,500 seats just past the first baseline in right field that have poor views of the pitch (excellent views of the beer tent, though)   8)
Some east stands were added last summer but weren't all that popular; would hate to have them put thousands of bleacher seats out there... cuz it was nice to still be able to see the game while waiting in line for a beer... so, considering the setup there, you could probably announce any crowd of over 9k as a "sellout."
Also, keep in mind that regular season games are currently played until the beginning of November.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DowntownDan on October 07, 2013, 02:48:27 pm
I would agree with NASL if they would could work an agreement with Driller's stadium, though I'm wondering how the A's and the new Roughnecks would work together, if both would continue to exist or if they could reach some collaborative agreement.  Setting up shop at Skelly would make the crowds look very weak since it would never sell close to 30K, but could come close to 10K at Driller's stadium.  Can Skelly even still be set up for soccer after the renovation?  I know many stadium renovations have moved the stands closer to the football field and done away with the extra room needed for soccer.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Laramie on October 09, 2013, 03:38:04 pm
I would agree with NASL if they would could work an agreement with Driller's stadium, though I'm wondering how the A's and the new Roughnecks would work together, if both would continue to exist or if they could reach some collaborative agreement.  Setting up shop at Skelly would make the crowds look very weak since it would never sell close to 30K, but could come close to 10K at Driller's stadium.  Can Skelly even still be set up for soccer after the renovation?  I know many stadium renovations have moved the stands closer to the football field and done away with the extra room needed for soccer.

Drillers' Stadium could be configurated in a U-shape which would make it more soccer specific.  Go ahead and expand it to 20,000 seats)

As to idea of Tulsa supporting two soccer teams; why not plan for a direct leapfrog to MLS.  Metropolitan Tulsa should eclipse 1.1 million by the 2020 census.  MLS plans to add four teams by 2020.  MLS would have the whole Tulsa market to itself and with Wichita (135 miles west ) & Oklahoma City (100 miles southwest)_within a 150 mile radius you would be have those markets as well.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on October 13, 2013, 05:58:58 pm
Not sure I follow your logic, Laramie, on the need/want to expand the old ballpark to 20,000 seats...

"If you had the power to build a soccer specific stadium in the Tulsa area tomorrow, where would you build it and why?"

From October 8th posting on the Tulsa Athletics' facebook page... scroll down on the link below... (around fifty replies from snarky to serious)

https://www.facebook.com/ttownsoccer?fref=ts

(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/1384227_546473985425098_1708574591_n.jpg)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DowntownDan on October 17, 2013, 03:41:11 pm
Drillers' Stadium could be configurated in a U-shape which would make it more soccer specific.  Go ahead and expand it to 20,000 seats)

As to idea of Tulsa supporting two soccer teams; why not plan for a direct leapfrog to MLS.  Metropolitan Tulsa should eclipse 1.1 million by the 2020 census.  MLS plans to add four teams by 2020.  MLS would have the whole Tulsa market to itself and with Wichita (135 miles west ) & Oklahoma City (100 miles southwest)_within a 150 mile radius you would be have those markets as well.

Don't forget Northwest Arkansas.  Lots of hispanics there too.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on February 26, 2014, 08:26:42 am
Just like this thread. They are reborn. Let's welcome your 2015 Tulsa Roughnecks!
They are working on colors and logo? I figured that would be a given. Season tickets are on sale now.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/soccer/fans-vote-to-resurrect-roughnecks-name-for-new-tulsa-pro/article_5f48c868-d653-5fc7-bc2e-c1f9567273b1.html


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on March 24, 2014, 10:14:38 am
Hey Ruf. Now this is a Stadium.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2587584/EXCLUSIVE-First-pictures-Beckhams-planned-stadium-new-Miami-MLS-side.html


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on March 24, 2014, 07:41:55 pm
I guess I have a bit of a soft spot for this old stadium... and for grassroots efforts and sweat equity...

TEAM OWNER!
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10154343_633966373342525_1876245808_n.jpg)

And the COACH!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/1965052_633966370009192_1042602765_n.jpg)

But I guess, according to RM, these guys are cheap...  :P

But I say..... do it for the children!   ;D
(http://www.tulsaathletics.com/tulsaathletics/cache/file/5BC0A3C7-A18C-5BA1-63890D19ABD0BC18.jpg)

"We will be hosting a press conference with a bunch of great news! Join us in two weeks on Friday, April 4th at Fassler Hall at 3pm.
Did we mention there will be FREE beer thanks to our friends at Dead Armadillo Brewery??"


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 24, 2014, 08:37:50 pm
Having the team owner and coach painting the fence somehow proves the team isn't doing everything as cheap as possible.

Got it.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on March 26, 2014, 08:28:27 pm
Tell you what, RM....
Your disrespect for the sweat equity of Tulsans like Sonny and Dr. Kern and Coach Joey Ryan who are putting everything on the line for the success of the Tulsa Athletics speaks volumes.

I'll be supporting these guys any day of the week over the fake Roughnecks and their New Hampshire and OKC-based owners who don't know diddley-squat about who the real Roughnecks were.
I'm sorry that the only thing that seems to appeal to you these days are the efforts of out of state multi-millionaires who got a taxpayer funded state of the art ballpark....

https://www.facebook.com/events/294478070712906/
"The Tulsa Athletics will be holding a press conference on April 4th at 3pm at Fassler Hall. Everyone is welcome to attend!
Dead Armadillo Brewery will be providing free Dead Ball Hooligan Ale while supplies last!"


Season ticket sales moving along nicely... single game tickets now on sale!
https://www.choicesecure03.net/mainapp/eventschedule.aspx?Clientid=EXPO3&group=npah

http://www.energyfc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.article&articleID=D4EDD5F4-41B4-E311-A1F9-000C296FBAA9

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OKC Energy FC announced today that respected local businessman Tim McLaughlin has joined the management team as an equal partner with Bob Funk Jr.

The partnership represents a major step towards uniting the Oklahoma City soccer community and strengthens Prodigal’s commitment to bring top level professional soccer to Oklahoma City including a potential Major League Soccer team in the years ahead.

“We’re pleased to have Tim join OKC Energy FC as an equal partner,” said Prodigal owner Bob Funk Jr. “His passion for the continued success of Oklahoma City and its citizens is unmatched. By uniting our efforts, it brings us another step closer to our shared vision  of bringing a Major League Soccer (MLS) team to Oklahoma City in the future.”

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53wGeF6TEKI[/youtube]

And, of course, if OKC gets to their goal of securing an MLS team, guess what the Tulsa Roughnecks become?
A farm club for the OKC Energy, that's what.



Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 26, 2014, 09:32:48 pm
I don't disrespect them for doing it. You are the one who can't accept another soccer team in town. You forget I went to Athletic games, I organized a crowd to go with me. I went on this forum and talked it up.

What changed was your attacks and your perception that the new team was the enemy.

I planned to support both teams until you went all hooligan. When the commenters on the newspaper coverage started attacking me for being excited about another team and you defended them, you lost me as a supporter.

Keep painting that fence and believing it makes you the better soccer program. To the rest of us, it is just paint.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on March 26, 2014, 09:51:15 pm
Sounds like we need a riot to settle this


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on March 26, 2014, 10:09:27 pm
I don't disrespect them for doing it. You are the one who can't accept another soccer team in town. You forget I went to Athletic games, I organized a crowd to go with me. I went on this forum and talked it up.

What changed was your attacks and your perception that the new team was the enemy.

I planned to support both teams until you went all hooligan. When the commenters on the newspaper coverage started attacking me for being excited about another team and you defended them, you lost me as a supporter.

Keep painting that fence and believing it makes you the better soccer program. To the rest of us, it is just paint.

You lost my support when you belittled the grassroots efforts of Sonny and Dr. Kern.
The Drillers have lost my support because it's become clear to me that they're in the soccer business for all the wrong reasons.

And the mularkey you resort to by misusing the term "hooligan" is about as stupid as when you insisted that a "soccer specific stadium" could only be used for soccer.
People have argued on websites about all sorts of things.... but because you got your widdle feewings hurt, you brand anyone critical of you as a "hooligan."

Lighten up, Francis.
For the record, the only people who've "brought back the Roughnecks" are Sonny and Dr. Kern...
Coach Joey ...   http://www.nasljerseys.com/Players/R/Ryan.Joe.htm

 


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on April 09, 2014, 04:55:31 pm
Check this out Ruf.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/Perfection/tulsa-roughnecks?ref=city


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on April 11, 2014, 05:59:50 pm
Makes me smile..... and so does this..... the field at 15th and Yale will be widened and lengthened, putting the pitch even closer to the seats....

(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/10150735_641793112559851_492409746667566667_n.jpg)

Last season......

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/945265_483525758386588_426987677_n.jpg)

This season......

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/10010780_637547789651050_15299111_o.jpg)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Conan71 on April 11, 2014, 08:08:59 pm
Makes me smile..... and so does this..... the field at 15th and Yale will be widened and lengthened, putting the pitch even closer to the seats....

(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/10150735_641793112559851_492409746667566667_n.jpg)

Last season......

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/945265_483525758386588_426987677_n.jpg)

This season......

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/10010780_637547789651050_15299111_o.jpg)

Where’s the three thumbs up emoji when you need it?


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on April 21, 2014, 09:27:05 pm
But wait.... there's more....

(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10155869_643864719019357_2834770144652168553_n.png)

and.... the Tulsa Ultras have a BBQ sponsor.....

We are proud to announce our partnership with Burn Co Barbecue and Grill! They will be providing our members food at select tailgates this year! Please make sure to get out and support them. They are located at 18th and Boston. Open Tuesday-Saturday from 10:45-2:30pm!

(http://media.tulsafood.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/burn_co_ribs.jpg)


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 22, 2014, 11:08:15 pm
Sounds like we need a riot to settle this

That WOULD be the soccer fan way, wouldn't it?


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on April 23, 2014, 09:46:27 pm
That WOULD be the soccer fan way, wouldn't it?

 No.
 It wouldn't.



Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on April 24, 2014, 07:13:24 am
No.
 It wouldn't.



He meant in Europe and Mexico. And it would be Futbol Fans.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 24, 2014, 02:18:14 pm
Not as much in the US.... just 2008, 2009, 2010, 2013.  We are relatively civilized...well, except for that whole hockey and MMA stuff....violence is just built in as an accessory.

The rest of the world....what a mess!  True bedlam as compared to OSU/OU bedlam...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_hooliganism#United_States_and_Canada



Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DolfanBob on April 24, 2014, 04:02:34 pm
I'm trying to remember the last time a whole side of bleachers collapsed in the U.S. during a Soccer match?
But that may be the whole excitement factor before the all out brawl happens.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on April 24, 2014, 04:57:41 pm
I'm trying to remember the last time a whole side of bleachers collapsed in the U.S. during a Soccer match?
But that may be the whole excitement factor before the all out brawl happens.

We have better building codes than the places where they collapse...mostly...

We also have better behaved hooligans for the most part....comparatively.




Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on April 25, 2014, 09:45:42 pm
Tulsa Athletics soccer will host U.S. Open Cup in May
Posted: Friday, April 25, 2014
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/soccer/tulsa-athletics-soccer-will-host-u-s-open-cup-in/article_5f6de024-7d13-5fa3-bcc6-65efcc47bef0.html

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2014 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Kicks Off May 7
Apr 24, 2014
http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/04/24/09/27/140424-usoc-2014-tournament-announcement
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Tournament Format and Match DatesThe 2014 U.S. Open Cup will be conducted on a single-elimination, one-game-knockout basis utilizing a tiered-bracket format. Teams will be paired geographically. In the event that three or more teams are from the same proximity, pairings for these teams will be made by random selection. Pairings will be arranged to prevent the possibility of a lower division team playing a parent club (e.g. Portland Timbers U-23s [PDL] will not be pitted against the Portland Timbers [MLS], should both teams be in the competition in the same round) except for the Final.

    First Round—May 7 (16 amateur teams: 5 PDL, 4 USASA regional qualifiers, 5 NPSL, 1 US Club Soccer, 1 USSSA): Teams from the same qualifying pool cannot be paired with each other.

    Second Round —May 14 (8 First Round winners, 26 remaining amateur teams [14 PDL, 6 USASA regional qualifiers, 6 NPSL, and 14 Division III [USL] clubs): Teams from the same qualifying pool cannot be paired with each other.

    Third Round—May 28 (24 Second Round winners and 8 Division II [NASL] clubs): Each Division II team will be matched geographically to play the winner of a specific Second Round pairing. The winners of the 16 remaining Second Round matches not paired with a Division II side will play each other.

    Fourth Round—June 10-18 (16 Third Round winners vs. Division I [MLS] clubs): Each Division I team will be matched geographically to play the winner of a specific Third Round pairing. The exact date for each match will be determined by the club selected as the home team from among those dates where the visiting team doesn’t have a league game already scheduled. The date selected must allow the visiting team at least two rest days before and after the match date.



Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: dioscorides on May 01, 2014, 12:43:53 pm
It looks like things are about to get interesting in Tulsa:

Tulsa Athletics officials in discussions with NASL for pro soccer status

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/soccer/tulsa-athletics-officials-in-discussions-with-nasl-for-pro-soccer/article_516c8411-c551-5d95-b8d2-7e7f13be80cb.html

Posted: Thursday, May 1, 2014 12:00 am | Updated: 12:56 pm, Thu May 1, 2014.
By JOHN TRANCHINA World Correspondent

Tulsa Athletics co-owner Sonny Dalesandro, whose team will play USL-Pro's Oklahoma City Energy FC in a U.S. Open Cup match in May, says his soccer club has professional aspirations.

The Athletics, who compete as an amateur summer team in the National Professional Soccer League, say they are in discussions with the North American Soccer League, one of two professional soccer leagues a rung below Major League Soccer.

The Tulsa Roughnecks FC, backed by the Tulsa Drillers ownership group, are scheduled to begin play in USL-Pro (the other pro league below MLS) in 2015 at ONEOK Field.

"They've (NASL officials) been to Tulsa on a couple of occasions, and our field now meets the standards of the NASL," Dalesandro said Wednesday. "We stated about a year ago that our goal wasn't to start and end in the NPSL, and we're going to continue to press in the right direction to bring a major league sports franchise here."

The Athletics play the OKC Energy at 7:30 p.m. May 14 at Drillers Stadium, which has been renamed Athletics Stadium. The U.S. Open is the soccer championship of the United States.

The Athletics, who kick off their second NPSL season at home Friday against the Fort Worth Vaqueros, have worked to make Athletics Stadium more soccer-friendly, including a fresh green paint job and taking out some bleachers to stretch the field from 103 yards to the international standard of 110 yards.

"We are continuing to develop this stadium into the finest soccer-specific stadium that we can in Tulsa right now," Dalesandro said.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Conan71 on May 01, 2014, 01:03:40 pm
I’d noticed a lot of activity over there when coming or going from Lowe’s the last couple of weeks.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Hoss on May 01, 2014, 01:19:31 pm
I’d noticed a lot of activity over there when coming or going from Lowe’s the last couple of weeks.

As often as I've been to that Lowe's in the last month, I'm surprised I haven't run into you out there.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Conan71 on May 01, 2014, 01:46:06 pm
As often as I've been to that Lowe's in the last month, I'm surprised I haven't run into you out there.

No kidding! It’s my second er third home right now.  Just look for the grey Hyundai Sonata with it’s donkey dragging the ground.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Snowman on May 01, 2014, 02:40:27 pm
It looks like things are about to get interesting in Tulsa:

Tulsa Athletics officials in discussions with NASL for pro soccer status

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/soccer/tulsa-athletics-officials-in-discussions-with-nasl-for-pro-soccer/article_516c8411-c551-5d95-b8d2-7e7f13be80cb.html

Posted: Thursday, May 1, 2014 12:00 am | Updated: 12:56 pm, Thu May 1, 2014.
By JOHN TRANCHINA World Correspondent

Tulsa Athletics co-owner Sonny Dalesandro, whose team will play USL-Pro's Oklahoma City Energy FC in a U.S. Open Cup match in May, says his soccer club has professional aspirations.

The Athletics, who compete as an amateur summer team in the National Professional Soccer League, say they are in discussions with the North American Soccer League, one of two professional soccer leagues a rung below Major League Soccer.

The Tulsa Roughnecks FC, backed by the Tulsa Drillers ownership group, are scheduled to begin play in USL-Pro (the other pro league below MLS) in 2015 at ONEOK Field.

"They've (NASL officials) been to Tulsa on a couple of occasions, and our field now meets the standards of the NASL," Dalesandro said Wednesday. "We stated about a year ago that our goal wasn't to start and end in the NPSL, and we're going to continue to press in the right direction to bring a major league sports franchise here."

The Athletics play the OKC Energy at 7:30 p.m. May 14 at Drillers Stadium, which has been renamed Athletics Stadium. The U.S. Open is the soccer championship of the United States.

The Athletics, who kick off their second NPSL season at home Friday against the Fort Worth Vaqueros, have worked to make Athletics Stadium more soccer-friendly, including a fresh green paint job and taking out some bleachers to stretch the field from 103 yards to the international standard of 110 yards.

"We are continuing to develop this stadium into the finest soccer-specific stadium that we can in Tulsa right now," Dalesandro said.


Did I miss something between the quotes, the stadium is not soccer-specific and is not exactly the design you would end up with if planned one from scratch.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: dioscorides on May 01, 2014, 04:15:39 pm
Did I miss something between the quotes, the stadium is not soccer-specific and is not exactly the design you would end up with if planned one from scratch.

I don't think the NASL is as picky as MLS.  Here is a list of the stadiums currently used for NASL.  I noticed 3 or 4 that are baseball stadiums.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:North_American_Soccer_League_stadiums


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Hoss on May 01, 2014, 04:26:03 pm
No kidding! It’s my second er third home right now.  Just look for the grey Hyundai Sonata with it’s donkey dragging the ground.

I'm usually looking for the bike rack.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: Conan71 on May 01, 2014, 09:18:18 pm
I'm usually looking for the bike rack.

Still there!  Will have to have you over for some home-brew once we get the new Ponderosa all settled in.


Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: TulsaRufnex on May 01, 2014, 09:55:36 pm
http://www.tulsaathletics.com/news/tulsa-athletics-press-conference-april-30th-2014/

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Tulsa Athletics press conference from the site of where the lower level first baseline seats were removed to expand the field...

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Title: Re: The New York Cosmos are back. Can the Tulsa Roughnecks be far behind...?
Post by: DowntownDan on May 05, 2014, 10:19:40 am
It looks like things are about to get interesting in Tulsa:

Tulsa Athletics officials in discussions with NASL for pro soccer status

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/soccer/tulsa-athletics-officials-in-discussions-with-nasl-for-pro-soccer/article_516c8411-c551-5d95-b8d2-7e7f13be80cb.html

Posted: Thursday, May 1, 2014 12:00 am | Updated: 12:56 pm, Thu May 1, 2014.
By JOHN TRANCHINA World Correspondent

Tulsa Athletics co-owner Sonny Dalesandro, whose team will play USL-Pro's Oklahoma City Energy FC in a U.S. Open Cup match in May, says his soccer club has professional aspirations.

The Athletics, who compete as an amateur summer team in the National Professional Soccer League, say they are in discussions with the North American Soccer League, one of two professional soccer leagues a rung below Major League Soccer.

The Tulsa Roughnecks FC, backed by the Tulsa Drillers ownership group, are scheduled to begin play in USL-Pro (the other pro league below MLS) in 2015 at ONEOK Field.

"They've (NASL officials) been to Tulsa on a couple of occasions, and our field now meets the standards of the NASL," Dalesandro said Wednesday. "We stated about a year ago that our goal wasn't to start and end in the NPSL, and we're going to continue to press in the right direction to bring a major league sports franchise here."

The Athletics play the OKC Energy at 7:30 p.m. May 14 at Drillers Stadium, which has been renamed Athletics Stadium. The U.S. Open is the soccer championship of the United States.

The Athletics, who kick off their second NPSL season at home Friday against the Fort Worth Vaqueros, have worked to make Athletics Stadium more soccer-friendly, including a fresh green paint job and taking out some bleachers to stretch the field from 103 yards to the international standard of 110 yards.

"We are continuing to develop this stadium into the finest soccer-specific stadium that we can in Tulsa right now," Dalesandro said.


This is great news!  I would love to see them make the jump.  Hopefully it can happen quickly or else the USL Pro team will get the advantage.  I don't think that Tulsa or OKC can support two professional soccer teams.  One of the leagues is going to have to take the foothold in this state.  I'm partial to the NASL myself and I hope they win out.