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Title: EMSA Question Post by: sauerkraut on May 18, 2012, 09:15:12 am As ya all Tulsaites know every June the Tulsa Water bill has it's yearly opt. of of EMSA Time peroid. I always opt. out, but some people told me that the EMSA water bill thing is not a bad deal and 80% of the city pays the EMSA fee on the water bills, only 20% opt. out.. I was wondering what people on the forum think about paying the waterbill fee for EMSA and how many posters here are enrolled in the program. The stories that came out last month about EMSA billing people even when they paid the water bill fee make me wonder, and I guess that problem is still going on- Why pay extra in the water bill if EMSA will still bill ya anyway?
Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: sauerkraut on May 18, 2012, 09:16:31 am I have been thinking about joining the EMSA water bill thing this year in June, but now I have 2nd thoughts. ???
Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: Conan71 on May 18, 2012, 09:26:27 am First it’s Tulsans.
Second, it’s not a bad deal. It’s like insurance, you may pay for it for years and never need the benefits, but good to have if you do need it. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: sauerkraut on May 18, 2012, 09:31:24 am First it’s Tulsans. Yes that is what I was told, the deal is a bargan- but now I hear that people who paid the water bill fee still get a $1,500 bill from EMSA and EMSA is relentless in collecting it from people. I thought the water bill fee was suposed to cover those costs. ???Second, it’s not a bad deal. It’s like insurance, you may pay for it for years and never need the benefits, but good to have if you do need it. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: Conan71 on May 18, 2012, 09:34:05 am Yes that is what I was told, the deal is a bargan- but now I hear that people who paid the water bill fee still get a $1,500 bill from EMSA and EMSA is relentless in collecting it from people. I thought the water bill fee was suposed to cover those costs. ??? I think it’s a pretty easy problem to solve and with all the recent attention it’s gotten, I suspect they will be more careful in their billing. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: AquaMan on May 18, 2012, 10:07:08 am One of the first things they ask you when EMSA picks you up is , "are you employed and do you have insurance?". If you have insurance they get billed first which means you are in effect being double billed. So, check your health insurance policy first and see if it is 100% covered and under what circumstances.
If you already have coverage opt out of the water bill. If the deductible is less than the annual total on the water bill then opt out unless you just view it as a cheap monthly investment to avoid paying a deductible. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: DolfanBob on May 18, 2012, 10:21:49 am I would join it in a Heart beat. But I am in Wagoner County.
Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: sauerkraut on May 19, 2012, 09:10:16 am OK Thanks, At first I was not sure if the waterbill thing paid the whole cost of EMSA service or just paid something like 80% (or half) and you got billed for the rest. Once you join you can't un-join until next June, or once you opt. out you can't jump in until the next June. Now would be the time to think about this. It's still something like $3.00 I understand and that's not bad. I wonder how this works for renters where the landlord pays the water bills. ???
Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: nathanm on May 20, 2012, 12:17:40 am I wonder how this works for renters where the landlord pays the water bills. ??? The landlord gets to pick for you and bill you the $3 or not at their pleasure. Or at least that's how it worked when the program started. My particular complex chose not to participate the first year, then changed their minds the second year. We moved not long after the second enrollment period. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: godboko71 on May 20, 2012, 05:00:34 pm I think it’s a pretty easy problem to solve and with all the recent attention it’s gotten, I suspect they will be more careful in their billing. It is not as easy as one would think, they sell to collection agencies (or did) very fast and the collection agency does not care that you don't really owe the money. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: sgrizzle on May 21, 2012, 01:26:35 pm I have insurance which covers it but the money I pay in my water bill means I have no copays, coinsurance, don't have to worry about whether a ride is covered or not, etc. I have heard nightmare stories in the past about insurance not paying if you need to be transported between facilities, if it doesn't turn out to be a medical emergency, etc. It's a couple of bucks, big deal. The double-bill issue is due to bad accounting, and is being resolved, nothing else.
Seems like a no-brainer to me but I've never seen so many people so fired up over saving the cost of a plate of cheese fries. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: godboko71 on May 21, 2012, 09:04:52 pm Seems like a no-brainer to me but I've never seen so many people so fired up over saving the cost of a plate of cheese fries. Some of us opted in happily that isn't my complaint its the double billing that has hurt my credit that I am upset with. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: nathanm on May 21, 2012, 09:50:02 pm Some of us opted in happily that isn't my complaint its the double billing that has hurt my credit that I am upset with. Dispute with the CRA. If it comes back confirmed, sue their debt collector and collect your FDCPA money. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: godboko71 on May 21, 2012, 10:48:10 pm Dispute with the CRA. If it comes back confirmed, sue their debt collector and collect your FDCPA money. Working on it, its sad that they (or anyone for that matter) are able to sell the debt so fast. Had similar problems with Saint Francis & TRMC. Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: jacobi on May 21, 2012, 10:56:54 pm If you are a repub, here's what you should do: It's your money so you should keep it to yourself; freedom!!! Health care is for sissies and commies: freedom!!! Insurance?! why that is gambling, son, and if the government expects you to pay then you should claim that your religion prevents you. Even if you really only believe in your own greed.
Title: Re: EMSA Question Post by: Townsend on August 05, 2014, 08:38:25 am Sauer - Heads:
EMSAcare Enrollment/Opt Out Period Now Open http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/emsacare-enrollmentopt-out-period-now-open (http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/emsacare-enrollmentopt-out-period-now-open) Quote The EMSAcare program enrollment period through your city of Tulsa water bill is open now through Aug. 31. Tulsa water customers can enroll in the program for a small monthly fee of $5.45 on their water bill. The fee covers membership in the EMSAcare program and funds the cost of Tulsa Fire Department first response to medical emergencies. The EMSAcare program covers emergency ambulance service at no charge to members after their insurance is applied. For residents who do not have a city of Tulsa water account, you can also join directly with EMSA for annual fee of $45. Residents have the option to enroll in the program when they establish their city of Tulsa water account. The annual enrollment period is the one time per year a resident can change their enrollment status by opting in or out of the program. If you do not wish to change your enrollment status, no action is necessary. Residents of multi-family dwellings and apartment buildings who do not have a water account in their name should receive an annual notice from their landlord regarding their enrollment status. If you do not know your enrollment status, please contact your landlord or call the city of Tulsa Customer Care Center at 918-596-9511. Anyone with questions about their status, eligibility, or to enroll or opt out on their water bill can call the city of Tulsa Customer Care Center at 918-596-9511 or go online at cityoftulsa.org. |