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Title: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on January 30, 2012, 08:10:20 pm
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Whiskey-Business-Tulsas-Blue-Dome-District/285116624881126

They are selling Cupcakes...  or liquor rather.
Word is the gravel lot behind El Quapo will be available for customer parking.  Not much space but hopefully enough to stop in on your way home, etc.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: jacobi on January 30, 2012, 08:42:36 pm
We shall see.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on January 30, 2012, 09:24:39 pm
We shall see.

That is what I said

Supposedly they are moving again on the building.  I haven't been by the lofts to see if anybody has been working.   


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: jacobi on January 30, 2012, 09:33:49 pm
They have done a bit of work on the building in the last few months.  There is a space next to the area where S&J will presumably be where they could move in.  At last check it didn't really look ready for move in (although, to be fair, not THAT far away).  I don't think a liqour store is really what the blue dome needs before there are ANY residential units down there.  Fortunately the hobos seem to leave this part of downtown alone.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: rdj on January 31, 2012, 08:32:20 am
If you make the selection pricey enough the vagrants won't hang around.  Keep it "mid shelf" and up on the liquor and you'll be just fine.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: jacobi on January 31, 2012, 08:33:45 am
What will the low rent, no account grad school hipsters like me drink, then?


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: rdj on January 31, 2012, 08:34:51 am
What will the low rent, no account grad school hipsters like me drink, then?

That's Treats convenience store is for...


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: jacobi on January 31, 2012, 08:36:45 am
Damn.  I was looking forward to some e&j in a paper sack.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: DowntownDan on January 31, 2012, 09:19:09 am
I drive by the building almost every day and I must be missing all this construction activity.  I keep reading these articles about things being built, but I'm just not seeing it.  Maybe they are on a schedule that doesn't coincide with my morning commute.  I really hope this thing finally happens.  I just hope no one gives that guy any more public funds.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: jacobi on January 31, 2012, 09:37:58 am
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I drive by the building almost every day and I must be missing all this construction activity.  I keep reading these articles about things being built, but I'm just not seeing it.  Maybe they are on a schedule that doesn't coincide with my morning commute.  I really hope this thing finally happens.  I just hope no one gives that guy any more public funds.

It seems to have slowed.  It was all on the first floor.  I think this place is supposed to move into the west side of the ground floor.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: dsjeffries on February 13, 2012, 09:47:51 am
I've passed my 10-article-per-month limit on Tulsaworld.com but there's a story in today's paper that says First Street Lofts is being foreclosed upon. Will someone go read the story and give an update on here?


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: carltonplace on February 13, 2012, 10:00:52 am
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20120213_11_A1_CUTLIN888653 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20120213_11_A1_CUTLIN888653)

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Tulsa could lose $1.3 million due to Blue Dome project delay
 
Developer Michael Sager is pictured in front of the First Street Lofts at 301 E. First St. After several contract extensions, the project, once estimated to cost $3 million, remains unfinished and faces a possible foreclosure action. Project costs have increased to roughly $5 million. JAMES GIBBARD / Tulsa World
By P.J. LASSEK World Staff Writer
Published: 2/13/2012  2:24 AM
Last Modified: 2/13/2012  7:58 AM


After several contract extensions, the once-estimated $3 million project, at 310 E. First Street, remains unfinished with an unresolved foreclosure hanging over it and an increased project cost of roughly $5 million.

If the project ultimately fails, the city will likely lose the $1.3 million in Vision funds, which is actually a loan to be repaid and redistributed to other downtown residential housing projects, said Jot Hartley, attorney for Tulsa Development Authority, the city's contracting entity for the projects.

"The best action by the authority to protect the public's money is to have a little bit of continued patience with Mr. Sager," Hartley said. "It isn't going to cost the city any money, and it may result in a completed project, which is everyone's goal."

Developer and owner of the property Michael Sager, principal of Blue Dome Properties LLC, said he is confident his project will be realized.

Sager said he has redesigned the project to have 23 rental units, 32 parking spaces, and a ground floor that houses S&J Seafood Cafe and Oyster Bar restaurant, the Whiskey Business liquor store and an artisan bakery, he said.

Sager's First Street Lofts was one of four projects to receive a portion of the $10 million in Vision 2025 downtown housing funds, which were allocated as 10-year interest free loans to be repaid in a lump sum at the end of the loan period.

Hartley said the city set up the $10 million as "gap funding" or "seed" money for downtown housing projects. The other three projects - Mayo 420 Building, Mayo Hotel and Lofts and Detroit Lofts - started after Sager's project began and are completed.

"The others projects that have gone on to completion may have been better funded and perhaps not had some of the obstacles that Mr. Sager says he's encounter in the rehabilitation of the building," he said.

Hartley said it is not the authority's "responsibility to defend Mr. Sager's performance or nonperformance of his commitments."

But the authority "is very cognizant of the difficulties that have occurred in completing the project and we are trying to closely monitor Mr. Sager's activities and stay on top of it, requiring information on a monthly basis to determine whether there becomes a point it is no longer a viable project, and if so, what TDA should do in the best interest of the public's money," Hartley said.

In October, the authority granted its fifth amendment to Sager's contract, extending the project completion date to Feb. 13, 2013.

Sager said the bulk of his issues in completing the project has been the national financial credit crisis.

"We've had to weather the real estate market just like everybody else in the country, but we're moving into a better economic period," Sager said.

There also have been unforeseen construction issues that needed to be repaired, and there were added amenities to the project such as a rooftop deck to view the ballpark, a "hospital cart" elevator to ease movement of furniture and other large items, and used-brick walls and wood-framed open ceilings, he said.

"I would suspect there are people out there thinking they are really glad I'm still here fighting because other people might have already quit," Sager said about the difficulties he has had. "My personal commitment is to never walk away here."

In July, American Home Mortgage Co. filed a foreclosure lawsuit in Tulsa County District Court, claiming Blue Dome Properties LLC has defaulted on a loan of $850,000 to redevelop the First Street Lofts and now owes $1.15 million because of accruing interest.

Sager said he is working out the foreclosure issue with the bank and once the leasing agreements and building permits are finalized for the commercial tenants, the lawsuit will be dropped.

Sager said he plans to use the revenue from the commercial businesses "as an economic engine" to get a loan that would be dedicated to not only paying off the first mortgage, but completing the project.

Howard Smith, consultant over the construction of the restaurant, said the lease has been executed for the restaurant and they're just waiting for the city to issue the building permits with the opening of the business around May 1.

"We're very excited to be downtown and a part of this project," Smith said.

Hartley said the issue for the authority is whether Sager has "a viable solution to his lack of funding. Which is obviously the problem. He has presented to us the he does have that solution."

Hartley acknowledged that out of all the downtown residential projects the authority has overseen, this project "has some warts on it."

Sager said he understands how there are questions and speculations over his incomplete project, "but I want it clear that none of the public's money has been misspent."

Kirby Crowe, principal of Program Management Group, who oversees the Vision projects for the county said the money is paid out through invoices, which he reviews.

While this project has taken longer than expected, "the $1.3 million appears to have been appropriately spent," he said, noting there was activity matching the invoices occurring on the site.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=334&articleid=20120213_11_A1_CUTLIN888653

Wow, just wow. $1.3 in what should be a revolving fund to seed other housing projects is tied up forever with little hope of recovery and other projects could have been funded and completed long ago, its aggravating.

The "economic engine" plan...I'm speachless.  


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: dsjeffries on February 13, 2012, 10:21:40 am
Wow, just wow. $1.3 in what should be a revolving fund to seed other housing projects is tied up forever with little hope of recovery and other projects could have been funded and completed long ago, its aggravating.

The "economic engine" plan...I'm spe[e]chless.  

The most telling part of the story: "Hartley said the city set up the $10 million as "gap funding" or "seed" money for downtown housing projects. The other three projects - Mayo 420 Building, Mayo Hotel and Lofts and Detroit Lofts - started after Sager's project began and are completed."

Sager's assertion that the national economic downturn is the cause of this mess is complete junk. How many more projects other than just the three funded with this Vision 2025 money have been completed? A ton, that's how many.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on February 13, 2012, 10:22:16 am
The most telling part of the story: "Hartley said the city set up the $10 million as "gap funding" or "seed" money for downtown housing projects. The other three projects - Mayo 420 Building, Mayo Hotel and Lofts and Detroit Lofts - started after Sager's project began and are completed."

Sager's assertion that the national economic downturn is the cause of this mess is complete junk. How many more projects other than just the three funded with this Vision 2025 money have been completed?


Sager has always been a financial clusterfark.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: AquaMan on February 13, 2012, 10:23:35 am
Beware of a guy who uses public funding to engrave his last name on an unfinished building.


Title: Re: Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: jacobi on February 13, 2012, 11:07:13 am
Apparently the TDA hates selling properties to those who are funded and motivated but once they do they will give you second chances like a battered wife.  What a group of clowns.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: swake on February 13, 2012, 12:03:54 pm
It also seems TDA cleverly wrote the contract and loan documents so that the city is a "Lender of no position at all"


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Jeff P on February 13, 2012, 03:13:07 pm
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Sager's assertion that the national economic downturn is the cause of this mess is complete junk. How many more projects other than just the three funded with this Vision 2025 money have been completed? A ton, that's how many.

Yep.

In addition to the Mayo, Mayo 420 and Detroit Lofts that were mentioned, you also have the Courtyard renovation job in the Atlas Life Building that was completed.

There are also the three major projects that are currently under construction - the Tribune Lofts addition, the Brady Hotel/Fairfield Inn, and the One Place Development.  That is at least seven major downtown construction projects that somehow managed to be planned, funded and executed in the midst of the economic downturn.

That doesn't even count all of the new restaurants/bars that have gone in during this time frame: all of Blake's places, most of Elliot's places, Elote, Mod's, Juniper, etc.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: DTowner on February 13, 2012, 04:09:39 pm
Yep.

In addition to the Mayo, Mayo 420 and Detroit Lofts that were mentioned, you also have the Courtyard renovation job in the Atlas Life Building that was completed.

There are also the three major projects that are currently under construction - the Tribune Lofts addition, the Brady Hotel/Fairfield Inn, and the One Place Development.  That is at least seven major downtown construction projects that somehow managed to be planned, funded and executed in the midst of the economic downturn.

And Sager's is smaller (by money) than those 7, yet only he was stymied by the finanical meltdown. 



Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: cannon_fodder on February 14, 2012, 06:04:22 pm
If someone can get me copies of the documents, I'd be happy to review them and pull some liens to see just how screwed the tax payers are... and then point out who the dolt was that left US, as tax payers, in an unsecured position with an unproven and unmotivated developer at the helm.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on February 14, 2012, 06:12:08 pm
If someone can get me copies of the documents, I'd be happy to review them and pull some liens to see just how screwed the tax payers are... and then point out who the dolt was that left US, as tax payers, in an unsecured position with an unproven and unmotivated developer at the helm.

Almost makes one wonder if Richard Studenny (Dick Stupidity) got the city into this one just like Great Plains.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: we vs us on February 16, 2012, 02:35:11 pm
In a totally random occurrence, I met one of the principles today through work.  They are hoping to open within two months and would love to actually shoot for mid March but Sager has to get his act together and turn the space over to them.  And that still hasn't happened. 



Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on February 16, 2012, 02:38:12 pm
In a totally random occurrence, I met one of the principles today through work.  They are hoping to open within two months and would love to actually shoot for mid March but Sager has to get his act together and turn the space over to them.  And that still hasn't happened. 



Sorry but I feel a Muttley snicker coming on when I think of them waiting on Sager:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKm5xQyD2vE[/youtube]

With any luck, they will be open by September.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Vision 2025 on February 16, 2012, 05:54:24 pm
There is some missing information out here on the downtown housing projects that I believe is important to share but is in no way in defense of or a challenge to any of the developers.  

The original Vision project request contained nothing to identifying these as loans and many pushed for and expected them to be grants.  The loan approach was an implementation decision made by the City which was definitely not favored by multiple developers however the City took the position that the precedent had already been established with the Tribune Lofts project (not Vision funds) and even with the potential risk of non-repayment (then and now) it remains a much more responsible approach than grants.  Additionally, with the loan methodology the City originally intended to take a first position however the developers (apparently successfully) presented how challenging this would make the remainder financings to obtain and the City ultimately agreed to take a 2nd (secured) mortgage position on the properties.

Lastly, there has also been castigation about the slow speed of developments and yes some have moved rapidly after contract release and others have well, not.  Overall, the loan program itself was unfortunately delayed by cash flow restrictions within the Vision 2025 program which was obviously beyond the developers control and this may have some adverse impacts but it also appears to have benefited some by allowing more time for planning and other fund raising via tax credits and conventional borrowing.  Regardless, the City knew and understood the issue, delayed contracting accordingly, and where possible worked to mitigate it to some extent by front funding the program with TDA funds which were later repaid with Vision funds.

Hope this helps, your mileage may vary.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Townsend on March 14, 2012, 04:41:10 pm
Per their FB post a few minutes ago:

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Ok...Who's celebrating St. Pat's with some beers in the Blue Dome?! We are!
Stop by, say hi and grab some St. Pat's giveaways and some info about the new store (Be the first to know all about 'The Beer Cave'). We'll be out in front of our soon-to-open location on 1st Street between Elgin and Detroit!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on March 28, 2012, 09:02:34 pm
About a month out.  Should look nice, it is a lot bigger than you would think it would be.  Going to have quite the selection.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on March 28, 2012, 10:11:49 pm
About a month out.  Should look nice, it is a lot bigger than you would think it would be.  Going to have quite the selection.

Better than Parkhillís or Ranch Acres?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Hoss on March 28, 2012, 10:41:36 pm
Better than Parkhillís or Ranch Acres?

That would be tough...don't forget about Collins, either.  They have a good selection as well.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on March 29, 2012, 04:31:06 am
It will be as much selection as they can fit in their store.  Not sure on the sq footage.  Was mentioning it in relation to the "it's bigger than I thought" comment.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on March 29, 2012, 09:36:06 am
It will be as much selection as they can fit in their store.  Not sure on the sq footage.  Was mentioning it in relation to the "it's bigger than I thought" comment.

Something every man loves to hear.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Townsend on March 29, 2012, 09:37:36 am
Something every man loves to hear.

Not from Sheen.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on March 29, 2012, 09:47:09 am
Something every man loves to hear.

They are also going to be very open to getting beers that you have to broker in to Oklahoma.  If there is something you really want and willing to pay for it.

An aspect I forgot about downtown is that they will be handy to all the hotels.  They also want to have the ability to reserve shelf space if you have expensive tastes and request something thats $500 a bottle you want whenever you come into town (or if you live here), etc.  I have no idea if there will be demand for that though.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on March 29, 2012, 09:48:34 am
They are also going to be very open to getting beers that you have to broker in to Oklahoma.  If there is something you really want and willing to pay for it.

Let them know Iíd pay a premium for Carib lager or Presidente.

http://www.caribbeer.com/

http://www.presidente-beer.com/

I had some Land Shark last night, closed my eyes and tried to pretend it was Carib, but it just didnít work.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: hello on March 29, 2012, 09:50:32 am
Let them know Iíd pay a premium for Carib lager or Presidente.

http://www.caribbeer.com/

http://www.presidente-beer.com/

I had some Land Shark last night, closed my eyes and tried to pretend it was Carib, but it just didnít work.

+1 for Presidente. I know a few people who'd be willing to pay $$$ for that one.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Cats Cats Cats on March 29, 2012, 09:51:50 am
What do you guys think the most popular beer people would want that you can't get in Oklahoma?  I was thinking Fat Tire shows up at all the restaurants.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 29, 2012, 10:03:31 am
I have a twelve pack of Fat Tire in my fridge right now. I love the stuff.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Hoss on March 29, 2012, 10:07:52 am
I have a twelve pack of Fat Tire in my fridge right now. I love the stuff.

+1..I do also.  Well, part of a twelve anyway.  I get down to three and it's off to Caney I go.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on March 29, 2012, 10:09:28 am
+1..I do also.  Well, part of a twelve anyway.  I get down to three and it's off to Caney I go.

Heading to KC this weekend.  Anyone in need of a FT fix?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: TheTed on March 29, 2012, 10:37:41 am
They are also going to be very open to getting beers that you have to broker in to Oklahoma.  If there is something you really want and willing to pay for it.

That doesn't sound legal.

Also, popular beers and good beers are mutually exclusive categories.

I'd be a happy man if I could get some Russian River sours, some Oskar Blues Old Chub and Ten Fidy and some New Glarus beers (only available in Wisconsin).


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: restored2x on March 29, 2012, 10:44:53 am
Let them know Iíd pay a premium for Carib lager or Presidente.

http://www.caribbeer.com/

http://www.presidente-beer.com/

I had some Land Shark last night, closed my eyes and tried to pretend it was Carib, but it just didnít work.

OMG! I LOVE those beers! Had plenty last July when I went to Puerto Rico. YES! Bring those, please! Conan - you got's you some class!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: DolfanBob on March 29, 2012, 11:10:29 am
Better than Parkhillís or Ranch Acres?

B&B has a insane selection also.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: carltonplace on April 09, 2012, 10:25:55 am
Their Sign is up:

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/541318_334205666638888_285116624881126_920613_20618033_n.jpg)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: TheArtist on April 09, 2012, 01:08:59 pm
Nice sign.  :)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Gaspar on April 09, 2012, 01:18:56 pm
Their Sign is up:

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/541318_334205666638888_285116624881126_920613_20618033_n.jpg)

The clock on the sign should always say 5:05.



Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on April 09, 2012, 01:20:15 pm
The clock on the sign should always say 5:05.



Or 4:20


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Hoss on April 09, 2012, 01:29:01 pm
Or 4:20

Wouldn't be called Whiskey Business then.

Maybe the Chronic Club...


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Teatownclown on April 09, 2012, 04:13:07 pm
Or 4:20

Your only relevant post of the day..... way to look forward stay in time.

Are you saying we need some local flavor down in the Brady? :o ;)

You go Hoss!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Townsend on May 07, 2012, 12:04:36 pm
Per their FB post:

Stocking the shelves.

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/582090_355854774473977_285116624881126_974576_517239045_n.jpg)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on May 07, 2012, 01:48:14 pm
Per their FB post:

Stocking the shelves.

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/582090_355854774473977_285116624881126_974576_517239045_n.jpg)

Moving box alert!!!!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Boksooner on May 10, 2012, 08:46:48 pm
I walked by Whiskey Business today. Does anyone know when it's supposed to open?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: sgrizzle on May 11, 2012, 07:16:05 am
I walked by Whiskey Business today. Does anyone know when it's supposed to open?

Monday


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Sutton on May 11, 2012, 07:43:29 am
The name is escaping me right now but there are signs adjacent to S&J Oysters for a holistic yoga/massage space.

It appears the entire ground floor of 310 Lofts has been spoken for. Now if S&J and the Yoga place come to fruition is another question.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Townsend on May 11, 2012, 08:51:00 am
Now if S&J and the Yoga place come to fruition is another question.

...and 310 lofts.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: carltonplace on May 11, 2012, 10:39:37 am
...and 310 lofts.

Yes...and that.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: swake on May 11, 2012, 11:53:41 am
Sagar was on KWGS the other morning talking about the Blue Dome area. I wanted to know more about what was going on down there so I changed the station.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Hoss on May 11, 2012, 01:05:49 pm
Sagar was on KWGS the other morning talking about the Blue Dome area. I wanted to know more about what was going on down there so I changed the station.

Winner!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Jeff P on May 11, 2012, 01:33:32 pm
Sagar was on KWGS the other morning talking about the Blue Dome area. I wanted to know more about what was going on down there so I changed the station.

Why did you do that?  Didn't you know he's the driving force behind the development of Blue Dome?

 ;)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: brunoflipper on May 13, 2012, 07:31:08 am
The other liquor store going into downtown, in the old lyon's space of the warehouse market, got it's lic last week...
My understanding is that Joe Hall is behind it... His son is going to own/run it...


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: DowntownDan on May 13, 2012, 01:33:46 pm
I had no idea a liquor store was going in there.  Will be a good spot for it.  Lots of space.  Hopefully good selection.  It will be closer to me than Ranch Acres, which is my go to liquor store at the moment.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: carltonplace on May 14, 2012, 08:06:25 am
The other liquor store going into downtown, in the old lyon's space of the warehouse market, got it's lic last week...
My understanding is that Joe Hall is behind it... His son is going to own/run it...

I can stop there on my daily trip to Home Depot!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: RecycleMichael on May 14, 2012, 10:04:54 am
Maybe we should have a TulsaNow lunch at this new store?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: jacobi on May 15, 2012, 12:40:46 am
I went in today for thei opening.  Small but good selection.  Excellent prices.  I got a free shotglass out of the deal.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: carltonplace on May 15, 2012, 06:16:07 am
I saw that they are now open. I plan on going this weekend.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: tulsa_fan on May 15, 2012, 12:30:20 pm
Stopped in on my way back from lunch, got some wine and a free shot glass.  Probably not one of my fav selections, but I will make a point to buy from them sometimes to support downtown business!  They were super friendly and you can tell they are in it to be successful not some arrogant snobs that think you should be happy they let you shop there. . . I'd encourage others to go as well.  I thought their beer selection was pretty strong!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: godboko71 on May 16, 2012, 09:31:15 am
Will have to stop by the next few  days. Thanks for the heads up!!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: dioscorides on May 24, 2012, 01:32:11 pm
my wife and i stopped by the store on saturday.  we had ridden our bikes to fat guys (it helps us feel better about ourselves for eating there) and then rode over to the liquor store.  we chained our bikes up to the lamp post outside before going in.  the owner was there and told us that we were more than welcome to just bring our bikes in and leave them by the door next time.  he was very nice and took time to talk to us about the store and things he would like to do in the future.  we bought 3 six packs of beer and a bottle of tequila in preparation for the upcoming holiday weekend.  it was our first trip to a liquor store on our bikes.  my wife has a milk crate attached to the back of her bike that the six packs fit into perfectly.  the prices all seemed reasonable and it was nice to be able to speak to the owner about his new business. we will definitely be going back.  oh yeah, we got two complimentary shot glasses too.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: Conan71 on May 24, 2012, 03:25:46 pm
my wife and i stopped by the store on saturday.  we had ridden our bikes to fat guys (it helps us feel better about ourselves for eating there) and then rode over to the liquor store.  we chained our bikes up to the lamp post outside before going in.  the owner was there and told us that we were more than welcome to just bring our bikes in and leave them by the door next time.  he was very nice and took time to talk to us about the store and things he would like to do in the future.  we bought 3 six packs of beer and a bottle of tequila in preparation for the upcoming holiday weekend.  it was our first trip to a liquor store on our bikes.  my wife has a milk crate attached to the back of her bike that the six packs fit into perfectly.  the prices all seemed reasonable and it was nice to be able to speak to the owner about his new business. we will definitely be going back.  oh yeah, we got two complimentary shot glasses too.

LOL! The liquor store is one of he places we regularly bike to.  I have a milk crate on my old fat tire bike, but my new panniers just came in for it.  Mrs. C put some on hers a month or so back and likes them far better than the crate.  Iíve managed to get a case of beer and a box of wine in the crate before, but it takes careful packing and no sharp maneuvers.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: dioscorides on May 25, 2012, 08:28:12 am
LOL! The liquor store is one of he places we regularly bike to.  I have a milk crate on my old fat tire bike, but my new panniers just came in for it.  Mrs. C put some on hers a month or so back and likes them far better than the crate.  Iíve managed to get a case of beer and a box of wine in the crate before, but it takes careful packing and no sharp maneuvers.

i have a feeling we will be biking to the liquor store a lot more now.  we bike to downtown quite often.  now its going to be, "hey, what do we need from the liquor store?" we balanced the beer as best as we could in my wife's crate.  she was worried all the way home that she was going to tip over.  it probably just takes some getting used to.  going up the hill between 11th and 13th on the trail was a bit of a struggle for her, but she made it.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Whiskey Business Coming to First Street Lofts
Post by: TheTed on May 25, 2012, 11:29:19 am
I biked there the other day and I second the comments previously made. Decent selection, a bit sparse in the beer dept but not terrible. I'll be a frequent customer there.

Prior to this place, there wasn't much in the way of a decent liquor store near downtown. That one on Cherry Street (previously the closest to DT???) has the absolute worst selection.