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Title: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: sgrizzle on January 06, 2012, 07:29:38 am
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New residential development in the Brady District.

Details on the project included below

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http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/downtown-tulsa-moving-forward-with-more-apartments

(across from tribune lofts and the ah-ha)


Title: Re: Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: carltonplace on January 06, 2012, 08:03:35 am
Pics

(http://media2.kjrh.com//photo/2012/01/05/bradyflat1_20120105204949_320_240.JPG)

(http://media2.kjrh.com//photo/2012/01/05/bradyflat2_20120105204947_320_240.JPG)


Title: Re: Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: jacobi on January 29, 2012, 06:40:49 pm
I heard that this project was put on hold (again).  Any details?


Title: Re: Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: HeyMambo on January 30, 2012, 07:29:45 pm
I heard that this project was put on hold (again).  Any details?
Pushed back to June this year.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: rjessia on March 02, 2012, 10:54:22 am
Anyone know of any downtown condo projects that are planned to be SOLD rather than rented? Or, any existing rental units that are planning to be converted to for-sale properties in the near future? We rent downtown at the moment, but would rather own whenever that opportunity arises.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: pfox on March 02, 2012, 08:18:30 pm
Anyone know of any downtown condo projects that are planned to be SOLD rather than rented? Or, any existing rental units that are planning to be converted to for-sale properties in the near future? We rent downtown at the moment, but would rather own whenever that opportunity arises.

Hi!

We should talk!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: sgrizzle on March 03, 2012, 11:12:45 am
Anyone know of any downtown condo projects that are planned to be SOLD rather than rented? Or, any existing rental units that are planning to be converted to for-sale properties in the near future? We rent downtown at the moment, but would rather own whenever that opportunity arises.

Tribune lofts toyed with it, but I would talk to pfox first.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: rdj on March 05, 2012, 10:32:49 am
The ARCO building was slated for ownership, but the Hawkins family couldn't get enough contracts.

Until the mortgage rules change for multi-family projects it is going to be difficult to launch for-sale condos downtown.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: jacobi on June 14, 2012, 02:55:46 pm
Bump.  Any news?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: Weatherdemon on June 15, 2012, 08:16:20 am
Bump.  Any news?

I thought someone said they were waiting for the hotel to benear completion since this lot was used for hotel staging.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: erfalf on July 02, 2012, 08:16:48 am
So in B'Ville they are redeveloping an old energy research center into senior housing. When I went to the architects website I saw this:

http://www.sikesabernathie.com/portfolio-image31.html

I have never seen renderings of this project that looked like this. Personally I like this way better than the ones in the first reply in this thread.

Anyone know which is more accurate?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: TheArtist on July 02, 2012, 09:40:19 am
I like the more contemporary design that you just showed, but also really do like the "walk-up"/private front areas in the first renderings.  Though not sure if those are porches or what, if they are not, would prefer the more contemporary apartments with the balconies.  Very nice to have at least a little space to sit outside with some friends and have some potted plants lol. 


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: sgrizzle on July 02, 2012, 01:28:34 pm
So in B'Ville they are redeveloping an old energy research center into senior housing. When I went to the architects website I saw this:

http://www.sikesabernathie.com/portfolio-image31.html

I have never seen renderings of this project that looked like this. Personally I like this way better than the ones in the first reply in this thread.

Anyone know which is more accurate?

I think it will match the Ah-Ha


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: sauerkraut on July 07, 2012, 11:53:46 am
Not bad looking. Archer has alot of old historic buildings.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: tulsasooner on August 21, 2012, 07:23:44 pm
Anybody know when construction on these will start?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: HeyMambo on August 21, 2012, 08:35:45 pm
Anybody know when construction on these will start?
The latest we have heard was January of 2013


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: tulsasooner on August 21, 2012, 08:50:41 pm
Great! Thanks for the information!  Really looking forward to these being built.  The Brady is looking great, and these new lofts will only make it better!  Also, all the best to HeyMambo. Hope you guys are getting a steady stream of new customers thanks to the new development down there!


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: HeyMambo on August 23, 2012, 08:57:17 pm
Thanks! its getting better. The fence is coming down around the park this weekend, so I've heard.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: tulsasooner on January 02, 2013, 10:15:44 pm
Does anybody know anything about the construction of the Brady Flats?  I have heard they would start with the completion of the Fairfield Inn and that seems like it is nearing completion.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: HeyMambo on January 06, 2013, 06:24:17 pm
Does anybody know anything about the construction of the Brady Flats?  I have heard they would start with the completion of the Fairfield Inn and that seems like it is nearing completion.

I've heard that they are still ago, its just a matter of when! I can do with a break from construction on my block;)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: tulsasooner on May 01, 2013, 09:35:09 pm
Any news on the Brady Flats?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: Weatherdemon on July 30, 2013, 01:37:25 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JqLGYm94LZQ/TF9iVhPe1JI/AAAAAAAAARI/AG80W4n7JIQ/s1600/bueller.jpg)



Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: BKDotCom on July 30, 2013, 02:56:14 pm
They're probably waiting to see if they need to be named "B Flats"

sounds like a bad musical group


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: joiei on July 30, 2013, 11:54:54 pm
Maybe they could rename Brady to Bueller if it has to be renamed?  Yes? No?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: Hoss on July 31, 2013, 06:53:29 am
They're probably waiting to see if they need to be named "B Flats"

sounds like a bad musical group

http://www.sadtrombone.com/?play=true


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: johrasephoenix on April 05, 2016, 05:41:23 pm
Did this project die?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: cannon_fodder on April 06, 2016, 07:42:31 am
Brady District Flat LP took title to the property in 2011 from the TDA. They also received a bunch of public money apparently:

Quote
So far, Brady District Flats has received $550,000 from the city of Tulsa, and CAP and MetroPlains are seeking more from other agencies, he said.
http://www.metroplains.com/awards/view/id:36 (Via Tulsa World, January 28, 2011)

All someone has to do is call either MetroPlains (which I believe owns Brady District Flat LP) or call the TDA, in that the TDA transferred land to them, my understanding is they must have a contract. TDA still lists the project on its projects map:

http://www.tulsadevelopmentauthority.org/properties/

http://www.metroplains.com/contactus/

CALL! Let us know.





Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston
Post by: Conan71 on April 06, 2016, 08:06:47 am
Brady District Flat LP took title to the property in 2011 from the TDA. They also received a bunch of public money apparently:
http://www.metroplains.com/awards/view/id:36 (Via Tulsa World, January 28, 2011)

All someone has to do is call either MetroPlains (which I believe owns Brady District Flat LP) or call the TDA, in that the TDA transferred land to them, my understanding is they must have a contract. TDA still lists the project on its projects map:

http://www.tulsadevelopmentauthority.org/properties/

http://www.metroplains.com/contactus/

CALL! Let us know.





Sounds like a Sager project!


Title: 110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: BouldinDomer on July 29, 2016, 07:50:16 am
It appears that something is finally happening in the space just south of Hey Mambo (that was once slated to be The Flats on Archer).

A building permit was filed stating it is to be a "store/restaurant."

Rupe Building Company; Comm Const -New; $0.00; Store/Restaurant; 110 N. Boston Ave.; Tulsa; OK; 7/11/2016; 7/18/2016


Title: Re: 110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: Conan71 on July 29, 2016, 08:13:32 am
Whoo-hoo! Another downtown parking lot bites the dust!


Title: Re: 110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: johrasephoenix on July 29, 2016, 11:48:17 am
It's the Flats on Archer aka Brady Flats, arising after a 5 year slumber. 


Title: Re: 110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: swake on July 29, 2016, 11:51:07 am
It appears that something is finally happening in the space just south of Hey Mambo (that was once slated to be The Flats on Archer).

A building permit was filed stating it is to be a "store/restaurant."

Rupe Building Company; Comm Const -New; $0.00; Store/Restaurant; 110 N. Boston Ave.; Tulsa; OK; 7/11/2016; 7/18/2016

right below that one on the same report, another interesting building permit:

Bomsada Brookside Construction; Comm Const -New; $0.00; Apartments; 1717 S. Riverside Dr.; Tulsa; OK; 7/11/2016; 7/18/2016



Title: Re: 110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on July 29, 2016, 12:18:35 pm
right below that one on the same report, another interesting building permit:

Bomsada Brookside Construction; Comm Const -New; $0.00; Apartments; 1717 S. Riverside Dr.; Tulsa; OK; 7/11/2016; 7/18/2016



I was just thinking about the Riverside Apartments and when they'll get started. Project looked cool but has been a long time coming. Another one out of slumber.


Title: Re: 110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: TulsaGoldenHurriCAN on July 29, 2016, 12:20:36 pm
It's the Flats on Archer aka Brady Flats, arising after a 5 year slumber. 

Do you know if these will be the Archer/Brady Flats with store/restaurant on the first floor or is it possibly something else?


Title: Re: 110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: DowntownDan on July 29, 2016, 12:36:59 pm
I hope it's the whole apartment project and not just a restaurant.  That's a big lot and if it's just a restaurant or two, it would probably include a huge parking lot and setback. 


Title: Re: 110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: SXSW on August 02, 2016, 12:13:59 pm
Hoping they keep the original design with the restaurant space on the first floor

(http://media2.kjrh.com//photo/2012/01/05/bradyflat1_20120105204949_320_240.JPG)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: SXSW on February 23, 2017, 05:57:56 pm
Per the TW this project will (finally) start this spring.  62 apartment units with retail/restaurant space along Boston with 30 parking spaces behind the retail.  The developer claims the water table is too high to make underground parking work here.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/realestate/flats-on-archer-to-feature-apartment-units-in-brady-arts/article_cb0d6599-e5ae-5581-97d5-eb709aaeec17.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/realestate/flats-on-archer-to-feature-apartment-units-in-brady-arts/article_cb0d6599-e5ae-5581-97d5-eb709aaeec17.html)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: Bamboo World on February 23, 2017, 07:09:45 pm


Per the TW this project will (finally) start this spring.  62 apartment units with retail/restaurant space along Boston with 30 parking spaces behind the retail.  The developer claims the water table is too high to make underground parking work here.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/realestate/flats-on-archer-to-feature-apartment-units-in-brady-arts/article_cb0d6599-e5ae-5581-97d5-eb709aaeec17.html (http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/realestate/flats-on-archer-to-feature-apartment-units-in-brady-arts/article_cb0d6599-e5ae-5581-97d5-eb709aaeec17.html)


Thanks for the update, SXSW.

There's an underground (piped) creek near the site.  It shows up on some of the early Tulsa maps, when it was an open creek.  There was a bridge on Main Street over the creek, approximately where M.B. Archer Street is now.
  


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: johrasephoenix on February 23, 2017, 07:30:46 pm
I'll believe it when it breaks ground, but that's awesome.  You could not ask for a better site. 

Those giant parking bays on the street are kind of a bummer.  I'll also miss the brick.  That said, if this happens its a big win. 


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: SXSW on February 23, 2017, 08:25:40 pm
On closer inspection it looks like the retail space is mostly fronting Archer with just a section at the corner on Boston.  Hopefully if it is a restaurant any outdoor seating wraps around right there.  Then the lobby entrance and what looks like two garage doors but could just be one closer to Hey Mambo.  Too bad they couldn't put all of the garage access off the alley.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: Bamboo World on February 23, 2017, 08:28:09 pm


On closer inspection it looks like the retail space is mostly fronting Archer with just a section at the corner on Boston.  Hopefully if it is a restaurant any outdoor seating wraps around right there.  Then the lobby entrance and what looks like two garage doors but could just be one closer to Hey Mambo.  Too bad they couldn't put all of the garage access off the alley.


I think the Fairfield Inn on Main Street uses the alley.  The alley is gated at both ends. 



Title: Re: 110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: DowntownDan on February 24, 2017, 08:29:05 am
Hoping they keep the original design with the restaurant space on the first floor

(http://media2.kjrh.com//photo/2012/01/05/bradyflat1_20120105204949_320_240.JPG)

Looks like they changed the design to something more modern.  I really wish they'd stuck to brick to match the neighborhood and district.

(http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/d1/2d15c025-cc09-59cf-9b4a-3849c4d60d7a/58af6add443ae.image.jpg?resize=300%2C169)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: dsjeffries on February 24, 2017, 08:29:36 am
Why on earth are they completely ignoring Boston? Talk about a missed opportunity... Every ground floor in an urban neighborhood needs transparency and activity, not blank walls and garage doors. Plus, this thing looks cheap. We can do better.

We know what works and what doesn't, so why do we insist on doing the things that don't?  ::)

(http://djeffries.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Flats-on-Archer-e1487946457589.jpg)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: cannon_fodder on February 24, 2017, 08:55:37 am
Fronted - check
Parking in the rear or underneath - check
Multi-story - check
Ground floor utilized - check
Mixed use - check
Style fits the area - not really
Life along the entire outside - no


I much preferred the development with stoops along Boston and the brick work, but this development checks enough boxes to be OK.  The style isn't my favorite, I think it is kind of gaudy, but it is across from the modern AHHA building...so it isn't totally out of place at this location. Plus, given the lot they had to work with I'm sure there were some challenges hitting the price per square that made sense.  If you want parking underneath, you need access from somewhere - Archer would seem more logical to me so you end up with the shops lined up along Boston, but you end up with some portion of the building being a blank wall anyway.

Overall, I'm OK with it and look forward to seeing what the final design looks like.

Here is what the TDA had to say in their December update:

D. The Flats on Archer
Northwest Corner of East Archer Street and North Boston Avenue (110 North Boston
Avenue)
61 Unit Apartment Building
TDA Land Disposition
• IDP Permits for the multi-family project were submitted to the City of Tulsa for
approval
• Associated “License Agreements” are being obtained for execution with related
parties
• The Building Permits will be submitted by Sikes and Abernathie Architects, pending
final approval of the IDP Permits
2
• The project is currently in the Permitting stage with the City of Tulsa
• Met with bank representatives to discuss project specifics
• The Redeveloper is working with JTR Restaurant Group on leasing 2,300 square feet
of the allocated commercial space for the southeast corner
• A lease agreement is pending final review for construction staging
• Agreement details with the construction contractors are in final legal review
• American Parking has agreed to provide leased space for construction staging area
at the former Braums trucking facility
• The Redevelopers are moving steadily towards resolving the last remaining issues in
order to set a date for “Ground Breaking”
• Rupe Construction estimates 12 – 15 months from the date of “Ground Breaking” to
complete the project

http://www.tulsadevelopmentauthority.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Executive-Director-Report-7.pdf

Update for February:

• On January 5, 2017, the TDA Board of Commissioners reviewed and approved
Resolution No. 6309, to enter into negotiations for the loan of funds by TDA to the
Flats on Archer, LLC for assistance in Redevelopment of the property
• The Flats on Archer are waiting to meet with TDA to start the negotiation process
http://www.tulsadevelopmentauthority.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Executive-Director-Report-10.pdf



It appears to have gone through several options, this appears to be another modern option on the architects website:
http://www.sikesabernathie.com/portfolio-image31.html


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: Bamboo World on February 24, 2017, 03:59:29 pm


Why on earth are they completely ignoring Boston? Talk about a missed opportunity... Every ground floor in an urban neighborhood needs transparency and activity, not blank walls and garage doors. Plus, this thing looks cheap. We can do better.

We know what works and what doesn't, so why do we insist on doing the things that don't?  ::)

(http://djeffries.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Flats-on-Archer-e1487946457589.jpg)


Thanks for posting the enlarged rendering, dsjeffries.  Now, I'll need to go back and modify/retract my post from yesterday.  I think the design has taken a turn for the worse by not having more transparency along the Boston Avenue sidewalk. 

Are those garage doors on the right?  If so, there's a tree which seems to be blocking one of the doors (and driveways?).  It doesn't make sense to me.

The double acorn light fixtures would be a waste of money.

Last September, I posted a reply based on what I thought the current design was then, shown on sikesabernathie.com:

Thanks, BouldinDomer.  Those are the drawings I remember seeing, but I don't remember when or where.

Looking south on Boston toward M.B. Archer Street:
(http://www.sikesabernathie.com/images/portfolioimages/m-co/img31c-l.jpg)

Looking northwest at Boston and Archer:
(http://www.sikesabernathie.com/images/portfolioimages/m-co/img31a-l.jpg)

Looking toward the entry from M.B. Archer Street and north along the west side of Boston:
(http://www.sikesabernathie.com/images/portfolioimages/m-co/img31b-l.jpg)


I like the height of the "new" design (five stories instead of four stories).  But otherwise, the "new" design has too much blank wall facing Boston Avenue.



Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: Weatherdemon on March 27, 2017, 11:28:28 am
Why on earth are they completely ignoring Boston? Talk about a missed opportunity... Every ground floor in an urban neighborhood needs transparency and activity, not blank walls and garage doors. Plus, this thing looks cheap. We can do better.

We know what works and what doesn't, so why do we insist on doing the things that don't?  ::)

(http://djeffries.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Flats-on-Archer-e1487946457589.jpg)


I noticed today they have fenced off the lot.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: Weatherdemon on April 06, 2017, 11:28:38 am
Lot to dirt and work is commencing.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: Tulsasaurus Rex on April 06, 2017, 11:48:55 am
Lot to dirt and work is commencing.

(http://www.fakingstarwars.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/alone2.jpg)


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: Herb Albert on April 12, 2017, 02:33:40 pm
I'd like to see the building fit into the feel of the district better by activating interest at the walk-able street level. Overall It's a generic, cheap, blah design, I think the OSU color palette is not a fit for the arts district... I wish there were a downtown design council so we could avoid atrocities like this being erected in such a key district as the arts. 11 mil is a good number but I don't think it will be enough for a project this size.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: sgrizzle on April 12, 2017, 06:20:14 pm
I'd like to see the building fit into the feel of the district better by activating interest at the walk-able street level. Overall It's a generic, cheap, blah design, I think the OSU color palette is not a fit for the arts district... I wish there were a downtown design council so we could avoid atrocities like this being erected in such a key district as the arts. 11 mil is a good number but I don't think it will be enough for a project this size.

Too colorful for an arts district?


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: patric on April 12, 2017, 10:56:58 pm

The double acorn light fixtures would be a waste of money.


While not Acorns they appear just as bad, casting most light horizontally instead of on the street where it could do some good.
Going to suck living on the second floor at bedtime.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: cannon_fodder on September 27, 2017, 07:04:54 am
It looks like the foundation work is done and the first floor columns and elevator shafts are poured.  It looks like there are more molds in place, maybe for concrete stairways? 


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: DowntownDan on September 27, 2017, 09:06:50 am
Will they rename it?  It's not on Brady Street and it's no longer the Brady Arts District.


Title: Re: (PROJECT) Brady Flats: Archer & Boston/110 N. Boston Ave.
Post by: MostSeriousness on September 27, 2017, 09:54:58 am
I mean, it still is the Brady Arts District. At least for now, the name change is only the business association