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Title: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on September 12, 2011, 05:20:03 pm
It was reported last month that OTA has begun construction of a new turnpike interchange at Aspen Ave (145th E. Ave.) and the Creek Turnpike in Broken Arrow.  City leaders are saying this will provide tremendous access for commercial development.  A frontage road will be extended along the Creek Turnpike from the Walmart Supercenter at Elm Pl to Aspen.  A Houston developer controls over 110-acres just west of the Walmart Supercenter and south of the turnpike.  A local developer controls 40-acres at the northeast corner of 121st and Aspen. 

The Tulsa World article quotes Mike Lester, the mayor of Broken Arrow, saying the developer is in "negotiations with a 'destination retailer'.  Bass Pro Shop is an example of a destination retailer"

To my knowledge, the developer has not been announced yet.



Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: BKDotCom on September 12, 2011, 06:54:06 pm
Rumor is Fry's
http://www.frys.com/


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on September 12, 2011, 08:48:31 pm
Rumor is Fry's
http://www.frys.com/

It would be great to have them here in the Tulsa area!  Is your source reliable?


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: Conan71 on September 13, 2011, 12:08:27 am
It would be great to have them here in the Tulsa area!  Is your source reliable?

Serious?  They look like low budget Best Buy from their web site.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: dbacks fan on September 13, 2011, 12:48:22 am
Serious?  They look like low budget Best Buy from their web site.

The stores are better than the web site, but you have to be careful with some of the stuff there. I bought the ex a lap top there back in '04, and it had been a returned item. Took it back and they did a reformat of the drive, and adjusted the price. Bought an extended warranty for it, and it paid off when the hard drive took a duimp after the Sony warranty ran out, the only charge was $50.00 for retrieving the data and giving me the back up discs with all the info from the drive. The stores are twice the size of Best Buy.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: RecycleMichael on September 13, 2011, 01:02:56 am
I have bought a few items at a Fry's store in Dallas.

They have unbelievable sale items.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on September 13, 2011, 02:37:48 am
Their themed stores are really nice!

This area could use a new Lowe's or Home Depot too.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: Townsend on December 20, 2011, 10:52:11 am
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20111220_350_A1_BROKEN727421 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20111220_350_A1_BROKEN727421)


Tribe planning casino in Broken Arrow

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BROKEN ARROW - The Kialegee Tribal Town is planning to build a gaming establishment in Broken Arrow that would be called the Red Clay Casino, a city planning official confirmed.

Development Services Director Michael Skates said the federally recognized tribe plans to open a temporary facility in March that would consist of about eight to 12 prefabricated buildings with slot machines. The tribe plans to build a permanent casino building that would be complete around the beginning of 2013, he said.

Skates said that because the land is held in trust, the tribe does not have to apply for any permits other than one for the construction of a 16-inch water line.

The land is at the southwest corner of South Olive Avenue (129th East Avenue) and West Florence Street (111th Street), just north of the Creek Turnpike.

"It's been under Indian ownership for quite some time," Skates said.

The city will work on an interlocal agreement with the tribe for police and fire protection, he said. Dirt work at the site is under way.

Skates said he met with John Fox of FoxCor, a construction management firm, on Monday morning regarding the project. The city has been given a set of plans and will be requesting the final plans when they are available, he said.

Although the casino will not have to go through the city planning process, Skates said the city does plan to submit comments to the tribe.

Fox referred casino questions to Palmetto Bay, Fla., attorney Luis Figueredo, who was not immediately available.

Tiger Hobia, the Kialegee Tribal Town's "town king," or chief, also was not immediately available.

Records show that a compact between the state and the Kialegee Tribal Town was approved on July 19 for Class III gaming on Indian lands.

Land records show that the property is owned by Wynema Capps and Marcella Giles.

Records show that Capps and Giles are Muscogee (Creek) sisters who inherited the property from their father, Yahola Burgess, who inherited it from Tyler Burgess, a full-blood Muscogee (Creek) who is on the Dawes Rolls.

Court records show that the property has been exempt from property taxes.

Kialegee was originally a Creek town in Alabama and part of the Muscogee Confederacy. Today the tribal town is headquartered near Wetumka, in Hughes County, and has 439 members. It is considered part of the Muskogee (Creek) Nation.

According to the tribal town's Facebook page, it operates a day care center, a gas station, a smoke shop and housing.

News accounts reflect that the tribe has been met with resistance over the past decade when it sought to build casinos in Georgia and Texas.

According to one of the more recent reports in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the tribe was planning to buy land near Brunswick, Ga., that would become its new homeland if the Bureau of Indian Affairs approved the move.

There was opposition to that plan because some thought it would compete with the existing gambling on cruise ships off the coast if the tribe were to introduce land-based gambling to Georgia.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20111220_350_A1_BROKEN727421


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: AquaMan on December 20, 2011, 10:55:08 am
Great news. Now the city is completely surrounded by casinos on all four corners. Ironic. They've circled the wagons for us!


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: Conan71 on December 20, 2011, 11:14:37 am
This will help with the horrible casino shortage we've got.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: custosnox on December 20, 2011, 11:28:31 am
Well, Tulsa has been wanting to become known for something new, so here it is.  "Come to Tulsa to visit our sub-par Indian casinos that have machines set as tight as Olivia Newton-John's pants in the final scene of Grease"


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 20, 2011, 11:29:21 am
This will help with the horrible casino shortage we've got.

Yeah...I've been feeling the "casino crunch"...


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: Townsend on December 20, 2011, 11:30:27 am
Well, Tulsa has been wanting to become known for something new, so here it is.  "Come to Tulsa to visit our sub-par Indian casinos that have machines set as tight as Olivia Newton-John's pants in the final scene of Grease"

"Tell me about it, stud."

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/12600000/Olivia-Newton-John-olivia-newton-john-12687555-324-482.jpg)


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: Conan71 on December 20, 2011, 11:37:10 am
"Come to Tulsa to visit our sub-par Indian casinos that have machines set as tight as Olivia Newton-John's pants in the final scene of Grease"

That's some funny smile right there...


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: dbacks fan on December 20, 2011, 11:40:41 am
This will help with the horrible casino shortage we've got.

Yes, the casino shortage is as bad as the turnpike shortage. Question is will it be pay to get into Tulsa, or to get out?  ;)


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: Conan71 on December 20, 2011, 11:41:28 am
Yes, the casino shortage is as bad as the turnpike shortage. Question is will it be pay to get into Tulsa, or to get out?  ;)

I'm surprised we don't have slot machines at our toll gates.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: dbacks fan on December 20, 2011, 12:08:20 pm
I'm surprised we don't have slot machines at our toll gates.

Not a bad idea, Put up a sign that says "1 Out of every 10 wins!" make it a free pass for that portion of the pike! Brilliant idea!


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on May 18, 2012, 05:13:19 pm
New interchange off the creek turnpike is open.  The city says a developer is already lined up and we should know soon who the retailers/restaurants are for this area.  KTUL reports the city and chamber "want something big and unlike any other thing in town or around it for that matter. If they pull it off they say Broken Arrow residents won't be the only ones flocking to the area. "We're looking to bring in retailers and entertainment destinations and restaurants that are not in the metro so people who live throughout the metropolitan area will come out to Broken Arrow," said Smithwick. The city says announcements could be coming in the next few months."


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on May 30, 2012, 01:25:20 pm
Tulsa World article yesterday states the developer from Houston is ready to go on the project.  It will feature a theater (I hope Warren).


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on May 30, 2012, 06:11:03 pm
Used the new exit last week once. 


BA is getting stupid.




Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: patric on May 30, 2012, 10:24:06 pm
Tulsa World article yesterday states the developer from Houston is ready to go on the project.  It will feature a theater (I hope Warren).

It's Broken Arrow, which means the goal is to have the biggest billboards in the state.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on June 01, 2012, 05:09:36 pm
Per the Tulsa World article, the developer is Danny Signorelli.  His company is from Houston (The Signorelli Company).


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on October 04, 2012, 09:37:25 am
Here is a site plan I found online.  Not sure how current it is, but it does appear to confirm my suspicion that Warren Theatre will be coming to Broken Arrow with a similar complex to their Moore location.  This will be big for that area and will site right off the Creek Turnpike between 145th and 161st E. Ave.  Not sure what other retail/restaurants are planned but The Journal Record had an article a couple months ago that quoted the developer as saying his company had leasing agreements in hand for more than 100,000 SF.  He said they already crossed the threshold to break ground from a financial prospective, but they don't want to piecemeal this development.  Groundbreaking will hopefully occur at the beginning of 2013 and upon completion, will include at least 500,000 square feet of new retail. 

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8033/8053860895_2e4eee672c_c.jpg)

Current Site Plan


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: Townsend on October 04, 2012, 10:03:32 am


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8033/8053860895_2e4eee672c_c.jpg)

Current Site Plan

That is a large quantity of parking.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: nathanm on October 04, 2012, 08:27:59 pm
No way, it's only like 30 acres of parking. They should have done 40!


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on October 07, 2012, 12:25:55 am
Yeah...too bad the layout is like this and not more of a town center. I would have preferred the theater be more in the center. Just happy to see development along the turnpike.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: Teatownclown on October 07, 2012, 05:56:38 pm
Don't hold your breath on this deal...not enough roof tops and too close to the river.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 07, 2012, 08:16:09 pm
Everyone that has moved to BA in the last 20 years wants it to be Tulsa.  Why didn't they just stay in Tulsa?



Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on April 10, 2013, 11:06:23 am
No official announcement yet on what will be included as part of the Warren Theatre in south Broken Arrow, but owner Bill Warren was quoted in the Wichita Business Journal yesterday:

Warren’s preparing to build a theater in Broken Arrow, Okla., that will be like Moore “on steroids,” but without an Imax because of competing Imax screens in the Tulsa area. “But it won’t make any difference,” he told me afterward.  He said he put about $45 million into Moore’s facility and will match that in Broken Arrow.

I would guess he is going to build the screens as big or bigger than a typical imax in order to get around the no compete clause.  At any rate, $45 million for a movie theater is not too shabby! 


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: sgrizzle on April 10, 2013, 06:01:29 pm
No official announcement yet on what will be included as part of the Warren Theatre in south Broken Arrow, but owner Bill Warren was quoted in the Wichita Business Journal yesterday:

Warren’s preparing to build a theater in Broken Arrow, Okla., that will be like Moore “on steroids,” but without an Imax because of competing Imax screens in the Tulsa area. “But it won’t make any difference,” he told me afterward.  He said he put about $45 million into Moore’s facility and will match that in Broken Arrow.

I would guess he is going to build the screens as big or bigger than a typical imax in order to get around the no compete clause.  At any rate, $45 million for a movie theater is not too shabby!

IMAX started licensing the name to non-IMAX screens like the one at AMC Southroads 20. Size isn't a requirement to be "IMAX" anymore.


Title: Re: Aspen Creek: Broken Arrow
Post by: EricGarcia on July 27, 2013, 12:50:26 pm
Work to begin soon. Warren closed on 25 acres yesterday according to the Wichita Eagle.