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Title: Whole Foods Post by: Kenosha on August 31, 2011, 12:02:43 pm 91st and Yale.
Boom goes the Dynamite. Edit: Also "The Fresh Market" (not Braum's) Grocery to be announced at Village on Main Street in Jenks. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on August 31, 2011, 12:09:15 pm Boom!
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on August 31, 2011, 12:10:32 pm SW corner of 91st and Yale?
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on August 31, 2011, 12:12:00 pm I assume NE behind QT
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on August 31, 2011, 12:31:15 pm Source??
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: swake on August 31, 2011, 12:33:52 pm I assume NE behind QT Is that retail center going to be big enough? I would guess Whole Foods would have to go in at the long stalled center on the SW corner of the intersection. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Teatownclown on August 31, 2011, 12:39:56 pm Old news ::)... s/w corner....35,000 sq ft. store.... Lincoln Dev. out of Dallas.
The entire center w/b 110,000 sq. ft. but will be done in stages...most likely. I imagine expansion space will be made available depending on liquor law changes. 2013 opening if we're lucky. YES! Great news. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: stageidea on August 31, 2011, 12:46:14 pm Will this replace the current location on 41st or serve as a second location?
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on August 31, 2011, 12:58:14 pm Second location. They were rumored to be heavily considering the former Borders store on the NE corner of 81st & Yale.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on August 31, 2011, 01:42:54 pm The one on 41st is consistently packed. I can't imagine they would ever close that one unless it was being replaced with another store in the immediate vicinity.
The owner of KEO was telling me their second store will be going in at 91st & Yale as well. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on August 31, 2011, 01:49:41 pm The one on 41st is consistently packed. I can't imagine they would ever close that one unless it was being replaced with another store in the immediate vicinity. The owner of KEO was telling me their second store will be going in at 91st & Yale as well. They are expected to be on the NE corner in the new development behind QT. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: swake on August 31, 2011, 02:00:26 pm They are expected to be on the NE corner in the new development behind QT. On Google maps that site doesn't look much larger than the land QT is on, how is that possible? Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on August 31, 2011, 02:21:53 pm http://www.tuscanaonyale.com
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: swake on August 31, 2011, 02:36:40 pm http://www.tuscanaonyale.com Sorry, but that link just reinforces that Whole Foods is not going in there because it would not fit. According to the link for that center the main L shaped building is really two buildings that are 18,200 sq ft and 10,475 sq ft respectively. A Whole Foods location runs 35-40,000 square feet. If Whole Foods is going in at 91st and Yale, it’s going on the SW corner. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Nik on August 31, 2011, 02:40:26 pm This is great news. Anything to help lessen the traffic at the midtown location. Are the still planning on expanding the current one into the former Med-X/Mays locations?
I still haven't seen a source, so I am a bit skeptical. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: ZYX on August 31, 2011, 03:20:51 pm Awesome news! New construction Whole Foods usually lookpretty cool, so I can't wait to see some renderings.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on August 31, 2011, 04:13:41 pm Sorry, but that link just reinforces that Whole Foods is not going in there because it would not fit. According to the link for that center the main L shaped building is really two buildings that are 18,200 sq ft and 10,475 sq ft respectively. A Whole Foods location runs 35-40,000 square feet. If Whole Foods is going in at 91st and Yale, it’s going on the SW corner. I wasn't saying WF was going there. That is where KEO is going. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Teatownclown on August 31, 2011, 04:26:05 pm WF is going to be facing other competition from the same category.
Wait and we will see.....this new location will alleviate much over crowding on 41st. Besides, south Tulsa deserves this. ;) Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Kenosha on August 31, 2011, 04:53:57 pm Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: SXSW on August 31, 2011, 05:48:28 pm Second location. They were rumored to be heavily considering the former Borders store on the NE corner of 81st & Yale. That would've been a good use for that building, but the demographics are likely better one mile south plus easy access to the Creek Turnpike. I wonder if Barnes & Noble be interested? What else will be going in next to Whole Foods at 91st & Yale? That is a pretty big piece of land. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on August 31, 2011, 08:18:20 pm The 2 mile radius around 91st & Yale is one of, if not, the wealthiest in the state.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: jacobi on August 31, 2011, 08:29:24 pm SO I worked at WF (we called it hoFo) all of the first half of this year. There were drawing people from the Tulsa store to help open the OKC store and would vaguely intimate that there would be another store out south. Someday. With a capitol someday. It's good that they are anouncing a new store (starting pay is $10/hour which means not slave wage). I wasn't impressed with them as a company (all green and liberal hype but really just another "EF up and you're fired" kind of place) but hey the rich southie's will eat it up. And this makes two for us and OKC one.
As per the 41st street expansion, that has been going on for a very long time. and by going on I mean nothing going on. the spaces next door remain unrenovated and are used for meeting space and random crap storage. This was scheduled to be completed while I was still working there. I quit in june. None the less, I feel that 'boom goes the dynomite' nails it on the head. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on August 31, 2011, 11:29:04 pm That would've been a good use for that building, but the demographics are likely better one mile south plus easy access to the Creek Turnpike. I wonder if Barnes & Noble be interested? What else will be going in next to Whole Foods at 91st & Yale? That is a pretty big piece of land. If Barnes & Noble is smart, they know they don't need to be investing in brick and mortar. That former Borders location might be the right size for an Aldi but not a Whole Paycheck. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: TulsaGuy on September 01, 2011, 07:43:04 am Jacobi - what do you mean by a "EF up and you're fired kind of place"?
I don't see the correlation between an anti-green/liberal establishment and that? I would hope all businesses would not let employees get away with consistently poor performance whether they are liberal or conservative. Now, I don't agree with letting people go as soon as they slip up, but if there are performance expectations in place (as there should be) and an employee consistently underperforms, let 'em go. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2011, 08:08:23 am This is indeed good news because when I run out of award winning 3 Guy's Smokin' products, I can just run across the Street to Whole Foods and buy some!
;D Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: jacobi on September 01, 2011, 08:10:39 am Quote Jacobi - what do you mean by a "EF up and you're fired kind of place"? I don't see the correlation between an anti-green/liberal establishment and that? I would hope all businesses would not let employees get away with consistently poor performance whether they are liberal or conservative. Now, I don't agree with letting people go as soon as they slip up, but if there are performance expectations in place (as there should be) and an employee consistently underperforms, let 'em go. Let me clairify. The general store manager almost never compliments anyone. HE scold people publicly and engenders fear wherever he goes. He is darth Vader and you don't want to be the random foot soldier that lets the rebels get away. They pay decently but they treat their employees like crap on other levels as well. What I meant was more along the lines of "we are watching you. We want to fire you.We enjoy firing people." I never was written up (I was chastized heavily a few times) but it was pretttyy rough. My point is that despite claiming a facade of caring and workers rights (i.e. liberal) they really want you to cower in fear before their might and majesty. As far as their green efforts go, they are kind of a joke. is there really anything sustainable about a large building that has AC 24/7? What about a place who's products (save for a few green onions or beats) are shipped in from long distances? Really what the sign out front should say is "Appease your white liberal guilt here!". It's really just a Haute Bourgeoise place that wants to pretend that it is environmentally savvy and cares about it's employees. It is not. It is from Texas. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: RecycleMichael on September 01, 2011, 08:45:31 am As far as their green efforts go, they are kind of a joke. I am not a regular shopper at Whole Foods, but they are the greenest store in my opinion. I regularly give "Green Grocery" tours and use Reasor's, Whole Foods and Food Pyramid locations to walk a college class or civic group around. I am actually registered with Whole Foods in order to be able to do these stores. Whole Foods does ship in many items from far away places, but so do the other stores. I think it is ridiculously stupid to buy bottles water from Fiji, but they all sell it. Whole foods has the best selection of organic foods, reduced packaging foods, and bulk item shopping opportunities. They have a great slection of recycled paper products and green cleaning products. The store encourages customers to bring their own bags and even offers collection of yogurt containers and hard to recycle products. They may be bastards to work for and I can sense your bitterness, but they are the greenest grocer in our town, especially after the Farmer's Markets shut down for the season. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: AquaMan on September 01, 2011, 09:26:39 am Let me clairify. The general store manager almost never compliments anyone. HE scold people publicly and engenders fear wherever he goes. He is darth Vader and you don't want to be the random foot soldier that lets the rebels get away. They pay decently but they treat their employees like crap on other levels as well. What I meant was more along the lines of "we are watching you. We want to fire you.We enjoy firing people." I never was written up (I was chastized heavily a few times) but it was pretttyy rough. My point is that despite claiming a facade of caring and workers rights (i.e. liberal) they really want you to cower in fear before their might and majesty. He's not bitter, he's expressing the reality that few people our age are seeing. Sounds exactly like the job I just left at a big box office supply store. Everything you described was common place in our stores. Learn this if nothing else from your experience: big box/chain retail management has a well deserved bad reputation. It is rare to find store management that has any thing but disdain for their employees. When I started there it was all about quality product, customer service, respect for employees and sales. By the time I left it was only about warranty sales on cheap products. The idolization of the WalMart way by retail managers has made chain retailing nothing but a way-station job. But I'm okay now. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: jacobi on September 01, 2011, 09:31:33 am This is why I go to grad school. SO that I no longer am a slave. Oh wait....
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: dbacks fan on September 01, 2011, 09:57:52 am He's not bitter, he's expressing the reality that few people our age are seeing. Sounds exactly like the job I just left at a big box office supply store. Everything you described was common place in our stores. Learn this if nothing else from your experience: big box/chain retail management has a well deserved bad reputation. It is rare to find store management that has any thing but disdain for their employees. When I started there it was all about quality product, customer service, respect for employees and sales. By the time I left it was only about warranty sales on cheap products. The idolization of the WalMart way by retail managers has made chain retailing nothing but a way-station job. But I'm okay now. Sounds a lot like the municipality I used to work for, "We don't need these people who have been here ten years and built the infrastructure, we can contract it out, save money and make ourselves look good!" Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: brunoflipper on September 01, 2011, 01:10:49 pm I am not a regular shopper at Whole Foods, but they are the greenest store in my opinion. I regularly give "Green Grocery" tours and use Reasor's, Whole Foods and Food Pyramid locations to walk a college class or civic group around. I am actually registered with Whole Foods in order to be able to do these stores. I've become a fan of http://www.naturalfarms.com/ (http://www.naturalfarms.com/)Whole Foods does ship in many items from far away places, but so do the other stores. I think it is ridiculously stupid to buy bottles water from Fiji, but they all sell it. Whole foods has the best selection of organic foods, reduced packaging foods, and bulk item shopping opportunities. They have a great slection of recycled paper products and green cleaning products. The store encourages customers to bring their own bags and even offers collection of yogurt containers and hard to recycle products. They may be bastards to work for and I can sense your bitterness, but they are the greenest grocer in our town, especially after the Farmer's Markets shut down for the season. Local sourced fruit/veggies and meats. Custom products. Good prices. Online ordering and free delivery if over $75. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: SXSW on September 01, 2011, 01:23:47 pm The store encourages customers to bring their own bags and even offers collection of yogurt containers and hard to recycle products. My wife hasn't brought back paper or plastic bags in months because you can reuse the same bags at WF. They donate 10 cents for each bag to charity. We do the same thing at Reasor's and Target. I wish it was mandatory that you have to provide your own bags. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on September 01, 2011, 01:47:55 pm I am a big fan of Whole Foods because they respect their supplier's right to make a profit! That's very important in any business. We have had dealings with other grocery chains, and their primary goal is to squeeze the vendor for every penny. One in particular demanded that we change our ingredients and start using fillers, additives, and cheap ingredients to bring our prices down. That is out of the question, so we parted ways without regret.
Immediately when we entered into the process with Whole Foods, we realized things were going to be different. They have regional buyers for each group of stores responsible for sourcing as much local fresh product as possible. So basically, the buyer also becomes an advocate for the product. Though their quality and ingredient standards are high, the process has been very easy and the buyer is wonderful. As for employee management relationships at the stores, I would assume that is a typical relationship dynamic in the grocery industry. I used to work for a local grocery store when I was a kid and my boss was a grade A a$$hole too. Now that I have more grey hair, I understand why. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on September 01, 2011, 02:15:07 pm I've become a fan of http://www.naturalfarms.com/ (http://www.naturalfarms.com/) Local sourced fruit/veggies and meats. Custom products. Good prices. Online ordering and free delivery if over $75. Just curious where they source their salmon locally... ;) Also not much of a fan seeing photos of my food on the hoof beforehand but I digress. Good to hear a recommendation, I may have to give it a try. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on September 01, 2011, 06:00:35 pm The family that own NaturalFarms are good people.
I have a friend in Austin that owns a coffee roastery. They have a great relationship with WF. They even a received a low interest loan from WF to expand. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: brunoflipper on September 02, 2011, 07:57:34 am I've become a fan of http://www.naturalfarms.com/ (http://www.naturalfarms.com/) OK, so not ALL of it is local (the company is) but their products are antibiotic/hormone free and they are very selective about what they sell...Local sourced fruit/veggies and meats. Custom products. Good prices. Online ordering and free delivery if over $75. My other new local food crush is- http://www.fioravantibison.com/ (http://www.fioravantibison.com/) Grass fed, antibiotic/hormone free local bison... The prices are very competitive and they deliver for free in Tulsa. I'm a big fan. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on September 02, 2011, 08:12:55 am Rib roast is $25 a pound? Do you find it worth it or significantly better than a beef rib roast? I usually do a rib roast for Christmas dinner, one of my favorite meals, curious if there's enough fat to do a decent roast, I usually ask the butcher for a flap of fat on the beef.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on September 02, 2011, 08:22:53 am Rib roast is $25 a pound? Do you find it worth it or significantly better than a beef rib roast? I usually do a rib roast for Christmas dinner, one of my favorite meals, curious if there's enough fat to do a decent roast, I usually ask the butcher for a flap of fat on the beef. I like buffalo for burgers and some steak cuts. It wont' work very well for any long-cook cuts of meat unless you add pork fat. The texture of the meat is also has a finer grain. Add a nice slice of pork belly and it roasts up very nice, but not as good as beef. If you can get pork "caul" from your butcher, it works very well too. You will also find the the bone cuts from bison are more gamy than beef cuts because the marrow carries much of that strong bison flavor. I don't mind it too much, but some people find it odd. A dash of green peppercorn and/or nutmeg does a good job at canceling some of the gamyness. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on September 02, 2011, 09:27:31 am I enjoyed a bison ribeye a few years back. It was quite tasty.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: brunoflipper on September 02, 2011, 10:05:06 am Rib roast is $25 a pound? Do you find it worth it or significantly better than a beef rib roast? I usually do a rib roast for Christmas dinner, one of my favorite meals, curious if there's enough fat to do a decent roast, I usually ask the butcher for a flap of fat on the beef. i've stuck with their burgers (which are great and the price is hard to beat) and steaks thus far, so I can't speak to the roasts.planning on doing a prime rib in a couple of weeks... Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on September 02, 2011, 10:10:24 am i've stuck with their burgers (which are great and the price is hard to beat) and steaks thus far, so I can't speak to the roasts. planning on doing a prime rib in a couple of weeks... Is there a brisket cut with buffalo? Curious how that would taste with some nice smoke. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Teatownclown on September 02, 2011, 10:18:01 am I had the best corned beef (made from brisket) at Boston Deli this week....best I have tasted in Tulsa since the 1960's.
Kenny makes it in house.... Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: jne on September 02, 2011, 10:47:33 am Is there a brisket cut with buffalo? Curious how that would taste with some nice smoke. I was wondering the same. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on September 02, 2011, 11:45:13 am Is there a brisket cut with buffalo? Curious how that would taste with some nice smoke. Yes, and it is quite nice when "nitolized" and used for pastrami or corned beef. You can make it work on a smoker, but again you have to add pork fat or you get a very dry grainy cut. You could probably inject with hydrolized soy product and juice it up a bit, but the fine muscle and low marbling will still make for a dry texture. It's not just the bison has very low fat content, the structure of the muscle is extremely fine and dense, so any fat or moisture drips right out in a smoker or oven. Now that that same specimen and braise, boil or stew it and you have a wonderful lean product because it absorbs any fat or juce that you add. Sodium Nitrate/Nitrite in a brine or rub before cooking (as you typically do in corning or making pastrami) also helps it to retain moisture (I know that's not your gig Conan). Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Kenosha on September 02, 2011, 12:20:51 pm I think the underlying point of this thread is that it is a good sign for our local economy that a Whole Foods is choosing to locate another store here. Period. It is not a comment on the Urban Design, location, perpetuation of suburban lifestyles....or anything else. It's simply, Whole Foods is building a store in Tulsa, and that is a good thing. Period.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on September 02, 2011, 12:57:54 pm I think the underlying point of this thread is that it is a good sign for our local economy that a Whole Foods is choosing to locate another store here. Period. It is not a comment on the Urban Design, location, perpetuation of suburban lifestyles....or anything else. It's simply, Whole Foods is building a store in Tulsa, and that is a good thing. Period. and. . .it's right down the street from me, so I can't wait! ;D Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: jacobi on September 02, 2011, 01:23:04 pm Quote I think the underlying point of this thread is that it is a good sign for our local economy that a Whole Foods is choosing to locate another store here. Period. It is not a comment on the Urban Design, location, perpetuation of suburban lifestyles....or anything else. It's simply, Whole Foods is building a store in Tulsa, and that is a good thing. Period. As much as I was gripping about it earlier, you are correct. A somewhat exclusive retailer who bases their store building on income and education levels is building another location here. It may not LEAD to good things (it remains to be seen) but it certainly points out good things that are already here. So yes, as economic metric, this is good. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: jacobi on September 02, 2011, 01:23:26 pm Oh and we will have two and OKC will still only have one.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: AquaMan on September 02, 2011, 01:38:17 pm Not bad. 4 pages to come up with three good summary statements. ;)
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: jacobi on September 02, 2011, 01:48:18 pm also http://youtu.be/2UFc1pr2yUU (http://youtu.be/2UFc1pr2yUU)
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on September 02, 2011, 01:54:37 pm Not bad. 4 pages to come up with three good summary statements. ;) Can't have that. What ever happened to our beer summit, AM? You didn't come to Fassler's with the rest of us last night. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on September 02, 2011, 01:56:51 pm How does WF feel about parking behind the building? The intersection looks pretty nice if you look up and away when you see the QT.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: jacobi on September 02, 2011, 02:08:17 pm Quote Not bad. 4 pages to come up with three good summary statements I'm a philosophy grad student, you're lucky it wasn't 200 pages. ;D Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Teatownclown on September 02, 2011, 02:15:09 pm How does WF feel about parking behind the building? The intersection looks pretty nice if you look up and away when you see the QT. That's not the site plan....sorry. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on September 02, 2011, 02:18:17 pm That's not the site plan....sorry. South Tulsa. I guess we'd all be freaked if we couldn't see a huge parking lot. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: ZYX on September 02, 2011, 02:21:57 pm South Tulsa. I guess we'd all be freaked if we couldn't see a huge parking lot. There would be casualties. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on September 02, 2011, 02:33:27 pm There would be casualties. On a scale of Starship Troopers I'm sure. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on September 02, 2011, 03:26:17 pm South Tulsa. I guess we'd all be freaked if we couldn't see a huge parking lot. Where would we park our giant SUVs? Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Louie B on September 09, 2011, 09:52:33 am At least they are spreading more stores closer to where I live.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on September 19, 2011, 09:42:48 am Any confirmation on this yet?
There's no 2nd Tulsa listing on Wholefoods and the new signs on the SW corner of 91st and Yale say "new development coming soon" and "space available". No mention of Wholefoods as of 2 days ago. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: ARGUS on September 20, 2011, 08:32:49 pm SW corner. Whole Foods....there is your confirmation.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on September 20, 2011, 09:18:21 pm SW corner. Whole Foods....there is your confirmation. "They sucked his brains." Confirmed as well. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on September 21, 2011, 09:45:31 am Any confirmation on this yet? There's no 2nd Tulsa listing on Wholefoods and the new signs on the SW corner of 91st and Yale say "new development coming soon" and "space available". No mention of Wholefoods as of 2 days ago. I have confirmation that I am neither able to confirm or deny. [commercial] BTW, 3 Guys Smokin' Sauces and rubs are now available at your Whole Foods store! We passed their strict analysis and secured our place as a natural alternative to BBQ products filled with HFCS, MSG, Creosote, Artificial Binders, and Preservatives. Come visit us at Tulsa's Art of BBQ this weekend in the heart of Downtown. Taster kits go on sale Saturday at 11. Get there early! [/commercial] Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: HomeStyle on September 23, 2011, 09:17:22 am Creosote?
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: patric on October 09, 2011, 01:15:43 pm http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/113511/how-whole-foods-primes-you-shop-fastco
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on November 03, 2011, 05:28:23 am Whole Foods corporate account tweeted last night they were opening a store in Tulsa. No official announcement on location.
I still hear 91st & Yale. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: SXSW on November 03, 2011, 03:28:55 pm SW corner of 91st & Yale confirmed on their Facebook page...and also the Tulsa World (which said it was confirmed on their Facebook page).. :)
That is a pretty big site, is this part of a larger shopping center development at that corner? Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Teatownclown on November 03, 2011, 03:36:11 pm I believe they will phase in development as tenants are signed up. But expect a big vacancy next door to WF which will be expanded into alcohol someday if we are lucky.
Meanwhile, a mile north at 79th and Yale you will find a Fresh Market store.... http://www.thefreshmarket.com/ ....in the old Borders. And two miles east of the new WF you will see a similar concept as well. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on November 03, 2011, 07:28:44 pm I believe they will phase in development as tenants are signed up. But expect a big vacancy next door to WF which will be expanded into alcohol someday if we are lucky. Meanwhile, a mile north at 79th and Yale you will find a Fresh Market store.... http://www.thefreshmarket.com/ ....in the old Borders. And two miles east of the new WF you will see a similar concept as well. Any idea when Fresh Market will open? It's not even showing up on their website as a planned development. I'd love to see one in the old Borders on 21st. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on November 04, 2011, 06:58:39 am Any idea when Fresh Market will open? It's not even showing up on their website as a planned development. I'd love to see one in the old Borders on 21st. That would be interesting. The problem for that site (for a grocery) is lack of dock space. I heard that the deal was not solid yet. On the WholeFoods, the 91st store is designed to be a much larger footprint based on their new development concept. Expanded inventory and wider isles, as well as more of a "departmental" design with 3rd party offerings (nutrition consulting, massage, healthy cooking classes, and other spa services. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Oil Capital on November 04, 2011, 07:32:16 am On the WholeFoods, the 91st store is designed to be a much larger footprint based on their new development concept. Expanded inventory and wider isles, as well as more of a "departmental" design with 3rd party offerings (nutrition consulting, massage, healthy cooking classes, and other spa services. Any chance you can name a source? Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on November 04, 2011, 08:11:46 am That would be interesting. The problem for that site (for a grocery) is lack of dock space. I heard that the deal was not solid yet. On the WholeFoods, the 91st store is designed to be a much larger footprint based on their new development concept. Expanded inventory and wider isles, as well as more of a "departmental" design with 3rd party offerings (nutrition consulting, massage, healthy cooking classes, and other spa services. I notice where WF has additional space secured in the space(s) immediately west of their current store. It's amazing how that store has grown. It doesn't matter what time I go, it's usually very busy. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Teatownclown on November 04, 2011, 10:31:57 am Any idea when Fresh Market will open? It's not even showing up on their website as a planned development. I'd love to see one in the old Borders on 21st. The access on 21st isn't conducive to retail....more like office/medical....imho. My guess would be open by end of 2012. The reason Peoria WF has not expanded yet is probably due to landlord work. Just noticed new parking lot lights last month were installed. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: dbacks fan on November 04, 2011, 11:05:08 am I think the whole organic/natural foods marketing is a way to seperate the consumer from their money.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organic-food/NU00255/NSECTIONGROUP=2 (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organic-food/NU00255/NSECTIONGROUP=2) http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/index.html#/v/1245915096001/is-organic-food-worth-the-price/?playlist_id=87530 (http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/index.html#/v/1245915096001/is-organic-food-worth-the-price/?playlist_id=87530) Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on November 04, 2011, 11:17:03 am I think the whole organic/natural foods marketing is a way to seperate the consumer from their money. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organic-food/NU00255/NSECTIONGROUP=2 (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organic-food/NU00255/NSECTIONGROUP=2) http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/index.html#/v/1245915096001/is-organic-food-worth-the-price/?playlist_id=87530 (http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/index.html#/v/1245915096001/is-organic-food-worth-the-price/?playlist_id=87530) Agreed, there is a certain amount of wallet lube in "organic" marketing. I'm personally not fanatical about organic fruits & veggies. I will buy them when the price is comparable to non-organic though. But, one thing I like about buying processed or packaged meats such as bacon, sausage lunch meat, or boxed products like chicken stock from Whole Foods is that I don't have to read the the label to see if it's laden with nitrites, nitrates, BHA, BHT or any other preservatives. Interesting thing is, you can buy their brats or other speciality link sausages (like basil garlic pine nut) for roughly the same price you pay for a package of Johnsonvilles which are full of crap, when it's totally unnecessary to be in their product. Generally Johnsonville's products are frozen in the store so what's the need for preservatives unless they figure it's going to sit on a loading dock and get warm a time or two...ghack! I also find the WF links have less fat and better flavor. As far as whole meats, I really don't care so much about free range or not and I'll get that at Reasor's or wherever I find the best cuts I like. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: dbacks fan on November 04, 2011, 11:30:58 am I've been a label reader for a long time and agree on the brats and links. I usually go some where way they make their own for the reasons you mention. As for veggies, when I lived in AZ I ould often go to to farmers markets because I could get some stuff year round. I need to find a good meat market here.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on November 04, 2011, 11:34:21 am I need to find a good meat market here. We call them "singles functions" to keep it classy. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: dbacks fan on November 04, 2011, 11:41:31 am We call them "singles functions" to keep it classy. Have you ever been to SW Oregon? It's almost People of Walmart Heaven. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on November 04, 2011, 11:49:36 am Have you ever been to SW Oregon? It's almost People of Walmart Heaven. Cellulite with hair on it? Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: dbacks fan on November 04, 2011, 01:45:50 pm ^^^Of course, bless their hearts, they just can't help it. ;)
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on January 12, 2012, 03:00:28 pm Per TW:
NE corner behind QT: Tuscana retail development to begin construction next week (http://www.tulsaworld.com/articleimages/2012/20120107_p1Tuscana0107.jpg) Quote The economy remains sluggish, but that's not stopping the development of a high-end shopping center at 91st Street and Yale Avenue. The retail component of Tuscana on Yale, a mixed-use development that includes a 20,000-square-foot office building completed last year, will feature two two-story buildings totaling 33,000 square feet. Construction on the $9 million to $10 million project should begin next week. Clint Brumble, co-owner of the development along with Bryan Hendershot, said it is already 50 percent leased out, and they're hoping to fill the rest with high-quality stores and restaurants. "It'll all be high-end," he said. "We're not looking for just anything." Keo Asian Cuisine, a Brookside restaurant, has committed to an additional location in Tuscana. Brumble said he and Hendershot are in talks with an Italian restaurant and a combination sandwich, yogurt and bagel place, along with spas and boutiques. Brumble said the existing retail spaces in the neighborhood are all full, and he noted that Whole Foods Market has announced its intention to build a grocery store in the area. "Whole Foods will help bring more attention to our corner," he said. The two new Tuscana buildings will surround a courtyard that will be used for concerts and other live entertainment, Brumble said. The upper floors, totaling 8,000 square feet, will be office space. Brumble and Hendershot have plans for an additional phase of Tuscana, and they're not waiting around. Brumble said they should begin construction on four 7,000-square-foot office buildings within 60 days. Like the original office building, the new retail and office buildings will all share Tuscan-styled architecture. Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectid=32&articleid=20120107_32_E1_CUTLIN403579 Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on January 12, 2012, 03:02:13 pm Fresh Market will be occupying the old Borders at 81st & Yale. Should be announced soon. Lease is finalized.
Be interesting how Food Pyramid does with the addition of two higher end grocers to the area. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Teatownclown on January 12, 2012, 03:28:50 pm Fresh Market will be occupying the old Borders at 81st & Yale. Should be announced soon. Lease is finalized. Be interesting how Food Pyramid does with the addition of two higher end grocers to the area. Food Pyramid leases are underwritten by AWG, I think. But you make a good observation. Look for some consolidation. There exists another consciousness grocer coming to Tulsa other than WPC and FM...they just opened a store in OKC which seems to be a home run. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on January 12, 2012, 03:36:12 pm Food Pyramid leases are underwritten by AWG, I think. But you make a good observation. Look for some consolidation. There exists another consciousness grocer coming to Tulsa other than WPC and FM...they just opened a store in OKC which seems to be a home run. What's the name of the OKC operation? We went into the new Whole Paycheck up on 63rd and it's really nice. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on January 12, 2012, 04:47:21 pm Sunflower Market
Yes, as long as AWG decides to have an office in Tulsa Food Pyramid will continue. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: we vs us on January 12, 2012, 05:05:45 pm Sunflower Market Yes, as long as AWG decides to have an office in Tulsa Food Pyramid will continue. AWG? Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: SXSW on January 12, 2012, 06:37:37 pm Sunflower Market Where is Sunflower Market going? I had heard by Tulsa Hills but not sure if that's true. It would be nice to see both vacant Borders become Fresh Markets. They have one in Norman and it's a nice alternative to WF (along with Sunflower). Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: BKDotCom on January 12, 2012, 07:54:00 pm AWG? I'm guessing one of
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: RecycleMichael on January 12, 2012, 08:16:34 pm always wanting grub
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: DowntownDan on January 12, 2012, 08:38:07 pm What is with South Tulsa's obsession with Tuscany?
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Red Arrow on January 12, 2012, 09:28:53 pm American Wire Gauge
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: AquaMan on January 13, 2012, 09:41:54 am Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on January 23, 2013, 11:23:25 am Expansion on Brookside is under way.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/430057_10151629665563835_187879760_n.jpg) Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on January 23, 2013, 01:05:23 pm If you ever find yourself at Whole Foods on a Saturday, you know how packed that place gets. It's hard to even get a cart through the isles.
I have a solution though. As soon as you walk in, go to the customer service desk and tell them that the owner of a metallic colored Subaru has left their lights on. Once they make the announcement, everyone will leave the store giving you more room to browse around. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on January 23, 2013, 02:28:26 pm That or have them announce someone is giving away free Birkenstocks or Tom's in the parking lot.
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: marc on March 11, 2013, 04:40:30 pm Oh and we will have two and OKC will still only have one. This is an old video I just ran across, but I see they were certainly excited ("super-excited") in Oklahoma City when they got their first Whole Foods Market back in October 2011. Someone at another board said the OKC store is better set up because it was built from the ground up to be a Whole Foods, while the Tulsa location on 41st was a Wild Oats until the buyout in 2007. I can't say because I haven't been to the OKC store, but I understand they would never have gotten one at all without Aubrey McClendon and Chesapeake. Anyway, it's nice that Tulsa will have two Whole Foods stores. I used to enjoy Borders Books and Music, and probably annoyed several people by bragging that literate Tulsa had two stores while bigger OKC had just one. Yes, it was a corporate chain bookstore, but I loved it, great atmosphere and selection. Any bragging rights are irrelevant now, as no one anywhere has a Borders bookstore. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRj2MtmaoeU[/youtube] Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on March 11, 2013, 06:25:17 pm This is an old video I just ran across, but I see they were certainly excited ("super-excited") in Oklahoma City when they got their first Whole Foods Market back in October 2011. Someone at another board said the OKC store is better set up because it was built from the ground up to be a Whole Foods, while the Tulsa location on 41st was a Wild Oats until the buyout in 2007. I can't say because I haven't been to the OKC store, but I understand they would never have gotten one at all without Aubrey McClendon and Chesapeake. Anyway, it's nice that Tulsa will have two Whole Foods stores. I used to enjoy Borders Books and Music, and probably annoyed several people by bragging that literate Tulsa had two stores while bigger OKC had just one. Yes, it was a corporate chain bookstore, but I loved it, great atmosphere and selection. Any bragging rights are irrelevant now, as no one anywhere has a Borders bookstore. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRj2MtmaoeU[/youtube] And ironic that one of our Borders stores became home to a chief competitor with Whole Foods. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Gaspar on March 12, 2013, 12:21:03 pm Irony. :)
(http://moronepedia2.wikispaces.com/file/view/irony.jpg/54149286/irony.jpg) Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on March 22, 2013, 09:02:05 am Whole Foods on Brookside:
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/903178_10151788962608835_173671621_o.jpg) Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on March 22, 2013, 10:32:03 am Context? Additional eating space or is this for cooking classes, etc.?
Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Townsend on March 22, 2013, 10:39:20 am Context? Additional eating space or is this for cooking classes, etc.? Their cafe build-out. Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Teatownclown on March 22, 2013, 11:20:17 am Just allows for wider aisles and more space. We like more space! And restrooms! Great store.
The new one should be open by October/November!!!!!!!!!!!! Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: rdj on March 22, 2013, 02:24:40 pm Whole Foods on Brookside: (https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/903178_10151788962608835_173671621_o.jpg) All I see is blank space but if I hit quote I see the hyperlink to a picture and can copy and paste into my browser to see the image. Seems to happen a lot here. Do I not have access to the super secret photos? Title: Re: Whole Foods Post by: Conan71 on March 22, 2013, 02:30:02 pm Photo is over-sized, your browser settings might not allow you to see it in the forum window due to this.
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