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Title: New site, new look
Post by: Admin on August 29, 2011, 12:44:31 pm
We have a new main website, and the forum has been adjusted to match. some of you saw a version of this last week, when it was being developed.

If you see any major issues or have any questions, post them here.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on August 29, 2011, 01:54:04 pm
We have a new main website, and the forum has been adjusted to match. some of you saw a version of this last week, when it was being developed.

If you see any major issues or have any questions, post them here.

At least the contrast is better, but I'm still not a huge fan of the colors.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: patric on August 29, 2011, 02:00:29 pm
The light blue is good for decoration, but as text against a white background the readability is poor.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Ed W on August 29, 2011, 02:26:50 pm
Is this a bug?

When I click on the "Show unread posts since last visit" the link takes me to the front page at http://www.tulsanow.org/


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on August 29, 2011, 02:30:46 pm
Is this a bug?

When I click on the "Show unread posts since last visit" the link takes me to the front page at http://www.tulsanow.org/

You might clear your internet cache; it's not doing that to me...


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheArtist on August 29, 2011, 02:32:49 pm
I still have a major issue with the colors.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: ZYX on August 29, 2011, 03:19:34 pm
The page needs to be centered. I honestly like the old version better.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Townsend on August 29, 2011, 03:22:32 pm
Just like any change, my brain will adjust and I won't think anything of it after a while.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on August 29, 2011, 03:26:46 pm
The page needs to be centered. I honestly like the old version better.

It actually is centered; it's now taking up more horizontal space on the page though.  I like this better (not so much the colors, but the layout.  Maximize real estate).


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheArtist on August 29, 2011, 03:55:36 pm
  And for my positive comment,,,, I do like the wider format.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Breadburner on August 29, 2011, 04:01:50 pm
The worst color combo of any site I have seen on the net.....


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Admin on August 29, 2011, 04:11:33 pm
The worst color combo of any site I have seen on the net.....

I am tweaking with it. Any particular parts you don't like? As of this writing, I removed the peach and replaced it with plain white.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: ZYX on August 29, 2011, 04:41:59 pm
I am tweaking with it. Any particular parts you don't like? As of this writing, I removed the peach and replaced it with plain white.

I don't think the palette is too horribly awful, but I think that everything should be toned down a bit. It's just too busy. At least darken the bright blue links, they are nearly impossible to read. Please don't take this as being rude, I'm just trying to voice my opinion. Eventually, I will get used to the change, and I may actually like it. Just maybe a less bright version of it. :D


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: jne on August 29, 2011, 05:05:20 pm
Analogous color scheme fail.  Too saturated.  This hurts me. 


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on August 29, 2011, 05:17:11 pm
I'll get used to most of it.  I like the wider format. The colors in the recent posts section post number line make the thread title unreadable.  

Edit: had to check before commenting on clicking the logo.

I liked being able to click on the logo to get back to the forum home page after making a post.  Now it takes me somewhere else, I think the home page of the whole website.

I agree with whoever said it's too busy regarding colors.

Can you put the logout in a box?  I sometimes forget to logout as it is. An additional logout box at the bottom of the page would be nice.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: godboko71 on August 29, 2011, 06:01:59 pm
Since your still using SMF 1.1.x your footer violates the copyright agreement of the forum software. The copyright notice must be legible. I would get rid of the blue bar down there and move the footer into the green. Now if you upgrade to 2.0 you don't even have to leave the copyright notice or can reformat it in any way you like.

Speaking of footer. your heading are not using the images on the forum like they are on the main page.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: CRZ on August 29, 2011, 06:21:31 pm
The color scheme reminds me a morning news program. I keep waiting for the voice over to proclaim "Wake Up Tulsa!"

I don't post often, but when I do, its to complain about changes.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Admin on August 29, 2011, 07:12:13 pm
Since your still using SMF 1.1.x your footer violates the copyright agreement of the forum software. The copyright notice must be legible. I would get rid of the blue bar down there and move the footer into the green. Now if you upgrade to 2.0 you don't even have to leave the copyright notice or can reformat it in any way you like.

That is on the to-fix list. Having trouble finding it in the stylesheet.

Speaking of footer. your heading are not using the images on the forum like they are on the main page.

I'm not really sure why that is. This site is two different stylesheets with different people working on each one, not to mention dozens of PHP files so that may have just been an oversight. I'll see if I can move the WP footer to SMF.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Admin on August 29, 2011, 07:18:46 pm
I'll get used to most of it.  I like the wider format. The colors in the recent posts section post number line make the thread title unreadable.  

It looks like that is a leftover from the previous code. Can fix that.

Edit: had to check before commenting on clicking the logo.

I liked being able to click on the logo to get back to the forum home page after making a post.  Now it takes me somewhere else, I think the home page of the whole website.

The idea was to integrate the whole thing into one site. Clicking "forum" will take you back to the top of the forum, or you can turn on "Return to topics after posting by default." on this page: http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1;sa=theme




Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on August 29, 2011, 07:36:11 pm
or you can turn on "Return to topics after posting by default." on this page: http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1;sa=theme

I already had that activated.  After I get done with a topic that I posted to and want to return to the forum home page is what I was referring to.  Going to the forum home page after posting is something that I believe needs to be a bit more prominent than one of eight words that don't even look like a button.  Just my opinion.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheArtist on August 29, 2011, 08:34:27 pm
I am tweaking with it. Any particular parts you don't like? As of this writing, I removed the peach and replaced it with plain white.

The new background is much better.  But it doesn't look white white, for some reason.  Still better though.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on August 29, 2011, 08:43:49 pm
The new background is much better.  But it doesn't look white white, for some reason.  Still better though.

Still not a big fan of the light blue.  I understand it's a primary color in the logo, but I don't like it.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheArtist on August 29, 2011, 09:15:11 pm
  How about one of these?...

Toned the yellow down, darkened and desaturated the blue, and shifted the green to a warmer green, also the message background is more golden vrs pink.
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8571/atnlc.jpg)

Shifted the yellow to a green tone and lightened the blue and the green from above a little. the message background is a "soft parchment green" .
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6066/abtn.jpg)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: jne on August 29, 2011, 10:32:36 pm
 How about one of these?...

Toned the yellow down, darkened and desaturated the blue, and shifted the green to a warmer green, also the message background is more golden vrs pink.
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8571/atnlc.jpg)

Shifted the yellow to a green tone and lightened the blue and the green from above a little. the message background is a "soft parchment green" .
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6066/abtn.jpg)

Now we are making some progress.  The top one is a big improvement.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Admin on August 30, 2011, 05:58:27 am
Can't shift the logo colors. The rest is negotiable. I think the yellow i changed it to looks like the yellow in the top example.

I will continue to tweak with the others though.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Admin on August 30, 2011, 08:47:31 am
I already had that activated.  After I get done with a topic that I posted to and want to return to the forum home page is what I was referring to.  Going to the forum home page after posting is something that I believe needs to be a bit more prominent than one of eight words that don't even look like a button.  Just my opinion.

When on the forum, logo takes you to the forum now.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on August 30, 2011, 11:45:01 am
When on the forum, logo takes you to the forum now.

Thank you.  I'll try it now.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheArtist on August 30, 2011, 12:46:55 pm
  I like the new main body wording color. It could be just a taaad lighter.  I know its close to what I suggested, but in looking at it, its tricky because if you see a color at the bottom of the page/computer screen its lighter than at the top and when the color then goes all the way from top to bottom, it appears darker.  But if its a hassle, its fine, this new color is quite soothing imo.  Its the stuff in quotes color that seems harsh.  Oh, and the blue lettering is perfectly fine now imo.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Gaspar on August 30, 2011, 02:56:53 pm
Colors evoke an emotional response.  Back when I used to work for IdeaStudio we spent a great deal of time analyzing color choice for our clients in their marketing materials and ads.  It was expensive but worth it.  After developing an initial set of color combinations. We typically employed the use of a focus group.

The great thing about the TulsaNow forum is that it IS a focus group.  None of us really has any problem offering up our opinions.

THIS COLOR SCHEME IS BRIGHT AND ANNOYING.  

I am a member of several SMF forums and administrate two for my company (so I know what a pain in the a$$ it is to develop a new template).  
I tried to get over it today, but it's not working.

The colors are bright, they do not work with each other, and they are not complementary, analogous , or triadic.  They are just far enough off to cause discomfort.

Sorry  


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: rdj on August 30, 2011, 03:17:21 pm
We switched coffee at the office about the same time this site changed it colors.  I'm not sure what is causing it but I'm finding myself a little more aggressive than normal.  I'm blaming it on the forum, because the coffee tastes much better than the old.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: swake on August 30, 2011, 03:59:13 pm
It's really flipping awful.

Sorry, but it's true.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Breadburner on August 30, 2011, 04:07:21 pm
I am tweaking with it. Any particular parts you don't like? As of this writing, I removed the peach and replaced it with plain white.

I think it's getting better....!


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: ZYX on August 30, 2011, 04:14:42 pm
It's really flipping awful.

Sorry, but it's true.

I don't think it's THAT bad. And it has gotten a lot better.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: ZYX on August 30, 2011, 06:00:53 pm
I just got on this site on a laptop for the first time in a while, and it looks great! Much better than it does when viewed by a mobile device, the page is actually centered on here, and I actually really like the colors.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on August 30, 2011, 06:45:46 pm
I just got on this site on a laptop for the first time in a while, and it looks great! Much better than it does when viewed by a mobile device, the page is actually centered on here, and I actually really like the colors.

Who are you and what did you do with ZYX?

  ;D


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Admin on August 30, 2011, 09:21:51 pm
Colors evoke an emotional response.  Back when I used to work for IdeaStudio we spent a great deal of time analyzing color choice for our clients in their marketing materials and ads.  It was expensive but worth it.  After developing an initial set of color combinations. We typically employed the use of a focus group.

You underestimate just how low our budget is.


The colors are bright, they do not work with each other, and they are not complementary, analogous , or triadic.  They are just far enough off to cause discomfort.


Actually it is pretty close to an analogous scheme. This would be definitely analogous:


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on August 30, 2011, 09:28:16 pm
Colors evoke an emotional response.  Back when I used to work for IdeaStudio we spent a great deal of time analyzing color choice for our clients in their marketing materials and ads.  It was expensive but worth it.  After developing an initial set of color combinations. We typically employed the use of a focus group.

The great thing about the TulsaNow forum is that it IS a focus group.  None of us really has any problem offering up our opinions.

THIS COLOR SCHEME IS BRIGHT AND ANNOYING.  

I am a member of several SMF forums and administrate two for my company (so I know what a pain in the a$$ it is to develop a new template).  
I tried to get over it today, but it's not working.

The colors are bright, they do not work with each other, and they are not complementary, analogous , or triadic.  They are just far enough off to cause discomfort.

Sorry  

If they cause just enough discomfort for you to even ponder not posting because of it, then I like the colors.

 ;D


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: gers222 on October 04, 2011, 04:06:46 pm
can anyone tell me where i find the New Topic button?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on October 04, 2011, 04:09:39 pm
can anyone tell me where i find the New Topic button?

As a new poster, I'm betting you've been restricted from creating new topics until you get to a certain number of posts..  Many boards do this to discourage spammers.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: gers222 on October 04, 2011, 04:11:53 pm
As a new poster, I'm betting you've been restricted from creating new topics until you get to a certain number of posts..  Many boards do this to discourage spammers.


ok ty


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: gers222 on October 04, 2011, 04:12:55 pm

ok ty

Do you know how many posts i need??


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Townsend on October 04, 2011, 04:13:42 pm
Not many so keep this thread going a little longer and you'll be set


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: dbacks fan on October 04, 2011, 05:39:41 pm
welcome to the forum


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 04, 2011, 08:22:28 pm
Is this a forum??

Wow.  That's pretty kool!



Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on October 04, 2011, 08:24:21 pm
Anything that creates this kind of controversy HAS to be good!! 

I would add some fluorescent pink somewhere, though.  Just a little touch of jarring and/or disturbing would be good.



Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on October 04, 2011, 09:03:26 pm
Meh, posting from Africa.  Let me guess, Ivory Coast?

No thanks.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on November 10, 2011, 12:49:31 pm
Think you need another post or two.  Keeps the spammers away.  If your first post is SPAM we will hang you by your toenails.  Wait till the second or third. ;)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Townsend on November 10, 2011, 12:52:00 pm
this is my 5th.... :)

Blow our minds


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: DolfanBob on December 22, 2011, 10:51:27 am
What has happened to the ability to attach pictures to your posts ? The option in the additional tab is gone.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: ZYX on December 22, 2011, 11:57:53 am
(http://eatwatchrun.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/90ad9322_wtf-are-you-talking-about.jpg)

No it hasn't silly head....;D


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on December 22, 2011, 12:10:48 pm
(http://eatwatchrun.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/90ad9322_wtf-are-you-talking-about.jpg)

No it hasn't silly head....;D

Actually, yes it has...if you want to ATTACH.  Attaching and embedding are two different things.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: DolfanBob on December 22, 2011, 01:01:43 pm
Actually, yes it has...if you want to ATTACH.  Attaching and embedding are two different things.

Not sure about embedding, but attaching let me chose from my files what picture i wanted to post and that is no longer a option.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on December 22, 2011, 01:18:49 pm
Not sure about embedding, but attaching let me chose from my files what picture i wanted to post and that is no longer a option.

That's exactly correct.  With embedding, it needs to be uploaded to another source and a link provided.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: ZYX on December 22, 2011, 01:25:51 pm
Actually, yes it has...if you want to ATTACH.  Attaching and embedding are two different things.


Oh my bad, missed that little word. I've never attached pics. I always just embed.

Sorry for my confusion. ;)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: DolfanBob on December 22, 2011, 01:56:40 pm
That's exactly correct.  With embedding, it needs to be uploaded to another source and a link provided.

So was it this new purdy format that took away my attachment option ?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on December 22, 2011, 02:14:13 pm
So was it this new purdy format that took away my attachment option ?

It's an option in the forum software.  The admins may have disabled it for whatever reason.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: DolfanBob on December 22, 2011, 02:46:06 pm
It's an option in the forum software.  The admins may have disabled it for whatever reason.

Doh ! (insert Homer picture)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on December 22, 2011, 05:18:55 pm
Doh ! (insert Homer picture)

Open a Photobucket account, it's what I do now when I need to upload a photo.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Nik on December 24, 2011, 03:05:33 pm
Or use imgur.com. No account required.


Title: Re: ray ban optical
Post by: patric on January 04, 2012, 10:35:51 am
ray ban australia (http://www.raybanwayfarer australia.co m)
   
 http://www.vibram sydney.c om


You now get "No Moderators Found!"  when you try to log spam now.  Nice.


Title: Re: ray ban optical
Post by: Townsend on January 04, 2012, 10:39:03 am
You now get "No Moderators Found!"  when you try to log spam now.  Nice.

Oodles of spam today.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: GG on January 07, 2012, 07:09:20 pm
I reported them too.   I sent messages to Micheal and Scott through Facebook to let them know what is going on.


Title: Re: Spammers
Post by: Admin on January 07, 2012, 07:27:44 pm
You now get "No Moderators Found!"  when you try to log spam now.  Nice.

The script I installed that was supposed to clear out spammer accounts deleted the account I used for notifications, ironically.


Title: Re: Spammers
Post by: patric on March 06, 2012, 12:26:23 am
The script I installed that was supposed to clear out spammer accounts deleted the account I used for notifications, ironically.

still getting:
An Error Has Occurred!
No moderators found!   


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 11, 2012, 12:00:10 am
okay so how do I make new topic?

I am not a spammer.

here is a copy of the TOS that I will abide by:

Quote
Any of the following, performed on the forum, through private messages or email, will result in the deletion of messages and/or the banning of the user:

    * Vulgarity: obscene or explicit content or references
    * Spamming/Cross posting: off-topic or repetitive content
    * Self-promotion: Unrelated commercial content or advertising
    * Off Topic/Thread Hijacking: Replies that are off-topic or intentionally inflammatory
    * Shilling: registering multiple user names. If you feel you have a justified reason to have more than one user name, please contact the Admin first.
    * Harrassment: name calling, bullying or threatening of any kind directed toward the users or staff of this forum
    * Disruption: any activity that disrupts the operation or intent of this forum or web site


And I expect this policy to be enforced unilaterally, forum-wide.

I don't have time to fool around with the typical noob-run local forum bs.

I am a Tulsa business owner, Oklahoma strong and proud.  We have employed anywhere from 30 to 100 Tulsans annually, over the past 50 years.

My IT department daily monitors, and bounces, hackers trying to access information that is exponentially more sensitive than the database that runs this forum, so I have no time for your algorithms of thread-replies against temporal membership.
   
Grant me posting access now.

I will check back in one week. Thank you for your consideration.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: dbacks fan on March 11, 2012, 12:29:47 am
^^^^^^ Good luck with those demands there. As it says, follow the rules for new contributors. By the way, got any openings for a telecomm person with 20plus years expirience in your IT Dept.?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Teatownclown on March 11, 2012, 01:38:39 am
Friendly Bear?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 11, 2012, 06:16:45 am
Friendly Bear?

See how long it takes before new poster hurls the first 'herr Kaiser'....


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 11, 2012, 07:10:45 am
I don't have time to fool around with the typical noob-run local forum bs.

How dare you think of us as typical.

Welcome. I look forward to reading your posts and calling each other names.

Noob back at ya.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: AquaMan on March 11, 2012, 08:30:04 am
Make him say "Please".


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Ed W on March 11, 2012, 09:14:52 am
Wow.  You sound like an important guy responsible for a lot of people.  We'll certainly treat you with all the respect you deserve.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheArtist on March 11, 2012, 05:37:22 pm
   If oooonly I were an admin.   In one week from his post he would log on and see this message....
         
                                                       Fu(k Off     


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 11, 2012, 05:55:01 pm
I don't have time to fool around with the typical noob-run local forum bs.

Then go away and take that chip on your shoulder with you.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 11, 2012, 05:55:46 pm
   If oooonly I were an admin.   In one week from his post he would log on and see this message....
         
                                                       Fu(k Off     

Excellent use of "(".


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheArtist on March 11, 2012, 06:49:34 pm
Excellent use of "(".


  See, if anyone ever wonders why cities so long to have, and need, us "creative class" types around, you now have a perfect example as to why.  8)  


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 11, 2012, 08:23:58 pm
 See, if anyone ever wonders why cities so long to have, and need, us "creative class" types around, you now have a perfect example as to why.  8)  

Then why do cities have to work so hard to get and retain them?  Where are they hiding?  Walden Pond?

(Sorry, had to do it.  ;D)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: ZYX on March 11, 2012, 08:24:18 pm
okay so how do I make new topic?

I am not a spammer.

here is a copy of the TOS that I will abide by:
 

And I expect this policy to be enforced unilaterally, forum-wide.

I don't have time to fool around with the typical noob-run local forum bs.

I am a Tulsa business owner, Oklahoma strong and proud.  We have employed anywhere from 30 to 100 Tulsans annually, over the past 50 years.

My IT department daily monitors, and bounces, hackers trying to access information that is exponentially more sensitive than the database that runs this forum, so I have no time for your algorithms of thread-replies against temporal membership.
   
Grant me posting access now.

I will check back in one week. Thank you for your consideration.

I guess an exception can be made....you know, since you were so friendly.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 12, 2012, 08:43:01 pm
okay so how do I make new topic?

I am not a spammer.

here is a copy of the TOS that I will abide by:
 

And I expect this policy to be enforced unilaterally, forum-wide.

I don't have time to fool around with the typical noob-run local forum bs.

I am a Tulsa business owner, Oklahoma strong and proud.  We have employed anywhere from 30 to 100 Tulsans annually, over the past 50 years.

My IT department daily monitors, and bounces, hackers trying to access information that is exponentially more sensitive than the database that runs this forum, so I have no time for your algorithms of thread-replies against temporal membership.
   
Grant me posting access now.

I will check back in one week. Thank you for your consideration.


Just curious...how do you get someone to work at that company??



Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Ed W on March 12, 2012, 08:48:54 pm

Just curious...how do you get someone to work at that company??



Public flogging.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAoqB54prZLbEHXXfNU0X3sSwwe-OciXw3pxKdCiA5LcJwb2JG0Q)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 12, 2012, 08:53:39 pm
I'm betting it's all contrived.  But then again... Oklahoma DID pass 'right to work'....

Man, I wish this week would hurry up and get over.  This is gonna be fun.




Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 12, 2012, 09:29:21 pm
I'm betting it's all contrived.  But then again... Oklahoma DID pass 'right to work'....

Man, I wish this week would hurry up and get over.  This is gonna be fun.




Going to go out on a ledge here and venture to guess we'll never hear from this poster again.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 12, 2012, 09:49:10 pm
Going to go out on a ledge here and venture to guess we'll never hear from this poster again.

My guess is that your ledge is no higher than an ordinary curb by the street.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 07:01:46 am
I guess an exception can be made....you know, since you were so friendly.
That is good to hear, my Tulsa friend.

Now, being that I sense a little sarcasm there, can anyone tell me exactly what the algorithm is for number of posts v. temporal mambership?

I might stick around.  I am pleased to see the amount of activity here.  Plus, I see we have Foo Fighters fans here. And some guys with a sense of humor, in addition to the standard pot-calling-the-kettle-black types.  

Seems like a good mix. :thu:...:thumbsup:...how do I make a "thumbs up" smiley? :idk:......how do I make a "i don't know" smiley? :D  there, that one worked.

Also, just p.s., I think the guy that told me to fu(k off might be in violation of the TOS there.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 13, 2012, 07:42:22 am
That is good to hear, my Tulsa friend.

Now, being that I sense a little sarcasm there, can anyone tell me exactly what the algorithm is for number of posts v. temporal mambership?

I might stick around.  I am pleased to see the amount of activity here.  Plus, I see we have Foo Fighters fans here. And some guys with a sense of humor, in addition to the standard pot-calling-the-kettle-black types.  

Seems like a good mix. :thu:...:thumbsup:...how do I make a "thumbs up" smiley? :idk:......how do I make a "i don't know" smiley? :D  there, that one worked.

Also, just p.s., I think the guy that told me to fu(k off might be in violation of the TOS there.

The Artist suffers from Tourette's.  Due to the ADA act we can't boot him.  But you should see his inspired work when he's got the twitch really bad.  I believe you have to have five posts.  Three more and you can start your own topic.  Or you can simply do what some of our ADHD posters do and simply disrupt a perfectly cogent topic with something entirely unrelated you need to get off your spleen.

Welcome!


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 13, 2012, 07:56:19 am
Glad to know there are more of us to fight Foo. The war on Foo is the struggle of our lifetimes.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 13, 2012, 08:01:01 am
That is good to hear, my Tulsa friend.

Now, being that I sense a little sarcasm there, can anyone tell me exactly what the algorithm is for number of posts v. temporal mambership?

I might stick around.  I am pleased to see the amount of activity here.  Plus, I see we have Foo Fighters fans here. And some guys with a sense of humor, in addition to the standard pot-calling-the-kettle-black types.  

Seems like a good mix. :thu:...:thumbsup:...how do I make a "thumbs up" smiley? :idk:......how do I make a "i don't know" smiley? :D  there, that one worked.

Also, just p.s., I think the guy that told me to fu(k off might be in violation of the TOS there.

Foo Fighters?  Naw,...this is Johnny Winter and Woody Guthrie territory.

Violation of TOS?  Nope.  He was just reminding of the requirements for consent of the king.  




Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 13, 2012, 08:04:24 am

Seems like a good mix. :thu:...:thumbsup:...how do I make a "thumbs up" smiley? :idk:......how do I make a "i don't know" smiley? :D  there, that one worked.




Here is a posting place that, by definition, actually requires topic drift and thread hijack.  Feel free.


http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=18589.0



Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheArtist on March 13, 2012, 08:32:04 am
That is good to hear, my Tulsa friend.

Now, being that I sense a little sarcasm there, can anyone tell me exactly what the algorithm is for number of posts v. temporal mambership?

I might stick around.  I am pleased to see the amount of activity here.  Plus, I see we have Foo Fighters fans here. And some guys with a sense of humor, in addition to the standard pot-calling-the-kettle-black types.  

Seems like a good mix. :thu:...:thumbsup:...how do I make a "thumbs up" smiley? :idk:......how do I make a "i don't know" smiley? :D  there, that one worked.

Also, just p.s., I think the guy that told me to fu(k off might be in violation of the TOS there.

Well, not the apology one could have hoped for, but at least the second post sounded much nicer than that first blunt, harsh and demanding "versus the usual friendly hello and introduction" post did  (and perhaps you didn't even register that it did come across that way).

  Regardless,,,,

 Welcome to the Forum!  8) 

Am interested to see what your first thread is about.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 13, 2012, 08:37:28 am
Don't let him off so easy, Artist!! 

He is still that way in background mode, haranguing employees, running them into the ground....they can't get back in his face to get him to back off.  We must be their proxy in the fight for truth, justice, and the American Way!



Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 09:32:06 am
Three more and you can start your own topic.

well see, now that wasn't so hard, I almost feel bad for asking now :o
 
Am interested to see what your first thread is about.

as am I.  Hope I'm not drunk when it comes, it might not be pretty.

And thank asparagus for the link...will check that out, might be my kind of thing.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 13, 2012, 09:34:30 am
well see, now that wasn't so hard, I almost feel bad for asking now :o
 
as am I.  Hope I'm not drunk when it comes, it might not be pretty.

And thank asparagus for the link...will check that out, might be my kind of thing.

PWI is not only encouraged here, it's mandatory. 


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 09:54:52 am
PWI is not only encouraged here, it's mandatory. 
you won't like me when I get drunk  :P


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 13, 2012, 10:41:30 am
Can't be any worse than what some people naturally post sober.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 10:51:36 am
Can't be any worse than what some people naturally post sober.

lol, good point :D

okay...we'll see how it goes.  If I get bant, it's on you  ;)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 10:54:11 am
Serious question then -- waht is the rule/enforcement on language then?  I curse like a sailor.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Townsend on March 13, 2012, 11:04:50 am
Serious question then -- waht is the rule/enforcement on language then?  I curse like a sailor.

Things like "I don't give a love" happen.

Or "This is donkey"

Strangely BS will still show up if you write it out.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 13, 2012, 12:59:43 pm

And thank asparagus for the link...will check that out, might be my kind of thing.


Asparagus is fine, but you will see that many use Heiron to address - going for the obvious connection to a drug induced state one might achieve from the use of Heroin...trying to make an associative connection of such to an assumed state of mind that they feel can be inferred from some of my posts.  Example; when I make a comment about Karl Rove to the effect that he is a slimeball scumbag who would gag a maggot off a gut wagon...some feel that is possibly excessively harsh, and that I would HAVE to be under influence of an opiate to even think such things, let alone voice them.







Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 01:06:38 pm
Asparagus is fine, but you will see that many use Heiron to address - going for the obvious connection to a drug induced state one might achieve from the use of Heroin...trying to make an associative connection of such to an assumed state of mind that they feel can be inferred from some of my posts.  Example; when I make a comment about Karl Rove to the effect that he is a slimeball scumbag who would gag a maggot off a gut wagon...some feel that is possibly excessively harsh, and that I would HAVE to be under influence of an opiate to even think such things, let alone voice them.

And here all this time I was trying to sass the connection between heironymous bosch and the asparagus.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 13, 2012, 01:12:48 pm
And here all this time I was trying to sass the connection between heironymous bosch and the asparagus.

Bosch is the inspiration - for the last 45 years or so.





Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: DolfanBob on March 13, 2012, 01:37:29 pm
you won't like me when I get drunk  :P

We will forgive you if it is "Marshall" induced. Opps thread drift....


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 03:36:43 pm
Bosch is the inspiration - for the last 45 years or so.

and the asparagus is just for the aromatic peepee?

We will forgive you if it is "Marshall" induced. Opps thread drift....

I saw that mentioned in the other random thread, but didn't have time to research.  

I hope this is a reference to amplification, as I am a rocker, through and through

(http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/489/020550_4.jpg)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: swake on March 13, 2012, 03:40:45 pm
(http://marshallbrewing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/marshall-brewing-mcnellies.jpg)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: DolfanBob on March 13, 2012, 04:10:55 pm
and the asparagus is just for the aromatic peepee?

I saw that mentioned in the other random thread, but didn't have time to research.  

I hope this is a reference to amplification, as I am a rocker, through and through

(http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/489/020550_4.jpg)

Whoa ! nine posts. He's outta the gates boy's.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 13, 2012, 04:18:19 pm
and the asparagus is just for the aromatic peepee?

I saw that mentioned in the other random thread, but didn't have time to research.  

I hope this is a reference to amplification, as I am a rocker, through and through

(http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/489/020550_4.jpg)

Not quite sure I'd use a reference to Joe Dirt as being a rocker...but...whatever.

 ;D


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 13, 2012, 04:50:29 pm
and the asparagus is just for the aromatic peepee?



Go for the green!



Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 05:39:25 pm
Not quite sure I'd use a reference to Joe Dirt as being a rocker...but...whatever.

Apparently you have never seen the movie.  :P  

It was underrated imo.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 13, 2012, 05:50:43 pm
Apparently you have never seen the movie.  :P  

It was underrated imo.

I've seen it.  More times than I care to admit.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 06:00:04 pm
he was a rocker, through and through.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 13, 2012, 06:09:59 pm
he was a rocker, through and through.

Maybe his character was.  David Spade?  Notsomuch.

Jack Black, on the other hand...


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: swake on March 13, 2012, 06:11:44 pm
Maybe his character was.  David Spade?  Notsomuch.

Jack Black, on the other hand...

He makes a nice purse though.....


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 13, 2012, 06:14:21 pm
He makes a nice purse though.....

A little self-deprecation here...I wore my hair similar to Joe Dirt in the mid to late eighties and early nineties.  I had less of the bi-level though (my hair was longer on the sides) so it didn't look like a gnarly beaver-paddle.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 13, 2012, 06:22:16 pm
I wasn't talking about David Spade.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 13, 2012, 06:23:16 pm
I wasn't talking about David Spade.

that's the picture of the person you posted, right?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: nathanm on March 13, 2012, 06:25:03 pm
Also rock, using your parents' definition:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeNSzJ2-Jw&t=41s[/youtube]

This should calm you down nicely, though:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_egIiiksA[/youtube]

I hope.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: we vs us on March 13, 2012, 10:35:54 pm
You are one wild and crazy guy. 

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yh4CvIvOBPQ/TVRskVnFwgI/AAAAAAAAEF0/uMODs1lNUEQ/s1600/steve-martin-2-norman-seef.jpg)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 02:13:17 pm
that's the picture of the person you posted, right?

your trolling skills are okay I guess...indicitave of someone with a good deal of experience, but I think perhaps you've squandard a lot of time that could have been used perfecting new creative and unexpected techniques.  

Keep your eye on me for a few months, I am going to put on a seminar for you.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Townsend on March 14, 2012, 02:28:22 pm

Keep your eye on me for a few months, I am going to put on a seminar for you.

Stranger danger

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp9cj9LsQs[/youtube]


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: dbacks fan on March 14, 2012, 03:28:41 pm
Stranger danger

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psp9cj9LsQs[/youtube]

Ya think? 


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 04:26:04 pm
lol, the pervs on that vid, but damn, I would help that one chick change the batteries in her video game.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 07:18:03 pm
hey another serious question about this site:

If any of you are familiar with vbulletin, is there any way on here to "see subscribed threads"?  i.e. before I go a browzing, I like to see activity in only threads I've posted in.  Is there an easy way to do that?  Currently I am "see posts" in my profile, but then I got to poke down that list, looking for individual threads, and then click each one just to see if there's been any new posts.

You feel me?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 07:21:26 pm
By the way, got any openings for a telecomm person with 20plus years expirience in your IT Dept.?

IT director handles that, but business is on a upswing.  How do you know he's not already your boss? ;)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 14, 2012, 08:10:42 pm
hey another serious question about this site:

If any of you are familiar with vbulletin, is there any way on here to "see subscribed threads"?  i.e. before I go a browzing, I like to see activity in only threads I've posted in.  Is there an easy way to do that?  Currently I am "see posts" in my profile, but then I got to poke down that list, looking for individual threads, and then click each one just to see if there's been any new posts.

You feel me?

VBulletin is also a paid 'subscriber' system, which costs out the nose every year for webmasters/owners to pay for.  I don't think SMF does that.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 08:19:20 pm
VBulletin is also a paid 'subscriber' system, which costs out the nose every year for webmasters/owners to pay for.  I don't think SMF does that.

well most of that has nothing to do with my question.  

I am looking for a way to do something here, and I figured the easiest way to explain would be to put it in parallel terms, but since that failed, let me ask a simpler question for you:

How do you browse this forum everyday? Do you have a process, or you just login and start clicking smile?

Do any of you use the "notification" options? If so, how does that work? I don't want a damn email every time someone posts something anywhere on the board, but I would like an easy way to take care of my involved business before I go plundering around out of boredom.

Basically, I like to be efficient and get smile done.  I don't have a smile ton of time for bucking around.

You feel me?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: nathanm on March 14, 2012, 08:21:36 pm
Show unread posts since last visit. There are the typical icons that show which threads you've actually posted in.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 14, 2012, 08:22:29 pm
well most of that has nothing to do with my question.  

I am looking for a way to do something here, and I figured the easiest way to explain would be to put it in parallel terms, but since that failed, let me ask a simpler question for you:

How do you browse this forum everyday? Do you have a process, or you just login and start clicking smile?

Do any of you use the "notification" options? If so, how does that work? I don't want a damn email every time someone posts something anywhere on the board, but I would like an easy way to take care of my involved business before I go plundering around out of boredom.

Basically, I like to be efficient and get smile done.  I don't have a smile ton of time for bucking around.

You feel me?


Actually, it has everything to do with your question.  You asked.  I said VBulletin is a cash cow and SMF which this forum uses can't do that.

Myself?  I use this.  It doesn't filter threads I haven't posted in, but it works just fine for me.  Hope it's useful for you.

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?action=unread;all;start=0


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 08:23:39 pm
Show unread posts since last visit. There are the typical icons that show which threads you've actually posted in.

sweet, thanks, I'm kind of an idiot for missing that...even moreso, "Show new replies to your posts" is even more suitable...however it didn't seem to pick up your reply here.

Thanks for the hot tip, I will be trying it out.  :)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 08:25:52 pm
Actually, it has everything to do with your question.  You asked.

I asked how to perform a function with this software, and you gave me your opinion about some other software...

Here's an analog:

Q: How do I create an adjustment layer in photoshop

A: Photoshop sucks, use MSPaint.

see how that works?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 14, 2012, 08:31:57 pm
I asked how to perform a function with this software, and you gave me your opinion about some other software...

Here's an analog:

Q: How do I create an adjustment layer in photoshop

A: Photoshop sucks, use MSPaint.

see how that works?

They both suck.  Use GIMP.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 14, 2012, 08:34:49 pm
I asked how to perform a function with this software, and you gave me your opinion about some other software...

Here's an analog:

Q: How do I create an adjustment layer in photoshop

A: Photoshop sucks, use MSPaint.

see how that works?

Guess what?

don't like what I have to say?  Don't read.

See how THAT works?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 08:39:54 pm
Guess what?

don't like what I have to say?  Don't read.

See how THAT works?

U mad bro?

They both suck.  Use GIMP.

Gimp, what is it?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 08:42:41 pm
another serious question about the site:

Anyone use Tapatalk?  I visited here from my phone and got prompted.  I don't usually buy paid apps, but if the experience is as good as I have heard, I might....however I also understand it to be quite dependant upon the board.

Anyone here use it?  What say and how it works?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 14, 2012, 08:43:14 pm
U mad bro?

Gimp, what is it?

your first reply tells me all I need to know now.  Thanks; I will temper my replies in the future to accommodate someone 'without seasoned world experience'.   ;)

And, no, not mad.  If you don't like what I have to say, ignore it.  That's what I do with over half the posters on this forum.  It's worked wonders for me.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 14, 2012, 08:44:49 pm
another serious question about the site:

Anyone use Tapatalk?  I visited here from my phone and got prompted.  I don't usually buy paid apps, but if the experience is as good as I have heard, I might....however I also understand it to be quite dependant upon the board.

Anyone here use it?  What say and how it works?

I do, on Android.  It works pretty well, but since this site appears to be a Windows based server (it used to be anyway), I notice that it sometimes hangs a bit.  But paying for it opens you up to all the other forums that are using it now.  It was worth the 3 bucks I paid for it.

But yes, it does work.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 08:58:04 pm
I do, on Android.  It works pretty well, but since this site appears to be a Windows based server (it used to be anyway), I notice that it sometimes hangs a bit.  But paying for it opens you up to all the other forums that are using it now.  It was worth the 3 bucks I paid for it.

But yes, it does work.

most of the other forums I am on use vbulletin, so...;)

Let me ask you about tapatalk, and perhaps all paid apps....If I do a factory reset on my android, am I going to have to buy it again, or is there some kind of registration process that will know I already paid?

As for the other, look dude:

You didn't seem to get my "rocker" reference, but then you said you've seen the movie a thousand times.  Then you went off on this confusing tangent of Spade v Dirt. I had 2 options at this point:

1) you are a little thick in the head

2) you are trying to get a rise out of me

If the former, there's nothing wrong with that, I'm a little stupid from time to time as well

If the latter, then we are of common gound and I would like to share my secrets with you.

I got no beef, sir, we are both fighters of foo.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 14, 2012, 09:16:20 pm
most of the other forums I am on use vbulletin, so...;)

Let me ask you about tapatalk, and perhaps all paid apps....If I do a factory reset on my android, am I going to have to buy it again, or is there some kind of registration process that will know I already paid?

As for the other, look dude:

You didn't seem to get my "rocker" reference, but then you said you've seen the movie a thousand times.  Then you went off on this confusing tangent of Spade v Dirt. I had 2 options at this point:

1) you are a little thick in the head

2) you are trying to get a rise out of me

If the former, there's nothing wrong with that, I'm a little stupid from time to time as well

If the latter, then we are of common gound and I would like to share my secrets with you.

I got no beef, sir, we are both fighters of foo.

Never said I remembered the movie..said I saw it more times than would like to admit to.  I've seen dozens of movies that way (while with friends drinking, etc).  It's kinda like watching Napoleon Dynamite, or a train wreck.  Joe Dirt was that way.

BTW, I was a decent drummer back in the day, and know many local musicians and bands.  Used to work with and are friends with several good guitar players, drummers and the like.  So I'm most definitely a rocker to the nth degree.  I drove to Houston to see KISS after they put their makeup back on in 1996.  Saw White Zombie around that same timeframe.  Ozzy at the CC.  Saw Ratt at the Cains.  You get the picture.  My last concert was my first at the BOK..Foo Fighters last May.

As for tapatalk, f you do a factory reset, as long as you tie your main android account to the same Gmail address, it does remember what apps you paid for.  So you're good there.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 14, 2012, 09:53:12 pm
Never said I remembered the movie..said I saw it more times than would like to admit to.  I've seen dozens of movies that way (while with friends drinking, etc).  It's kinda like watching Napoleon Dynamite, or a train wreck.  Joe Dirt was that way.

BTW, I was a decent drummer back in the day, and know many local musicians and bands.  Used to work with and are friends with several good guitar players, drummers and the like.  So I'm most definitely a rocker to the nth degree.  I drove to Houston to see KISS after they put their makeup back on in 1996.  Saw White Zombie around that same timeframe.  Ozzy at the CC.  Saw Ratt at the Cains.  You get the picture.  My last concert was my first at the BOK..Foo Fighters last May.

As for tapatalk, f you do a factory reset, as long as you tie your main android account to the same Gmail address, it does remember what apps you paid for.  So you're good there.

Jesus Christ....I've heard Justin Beiber more than I care to admit to.  And I have never heard the entirety of a single song.

If I pretended to understand a justin beiber reference, and someone came back to me with "obviously you've never heard the song", the last thing I would reply with is "Oh, I've heard more Justin Beiber than I care to admit to."

unless I was trolling, then that would be the FIRST thing I would come back with.

You feel me bro?

Look, I think we are kindred in a way, just accept it.

I ain't going to try to one-up you with telling you I regularly chat with guys that played for Clapton, or regail you with the tales of how we lost out to Chainsaw Kittens to open for Jane's Addiction....

Tulsa has a rich heritage of music and celebrity.

That Foo Fighters show in May was some loud donkey smile though. :D  Don't tell me you were the jackass that was complaining about the people standing during Motorhead though...

Thanks for the tapatalk advice, I am going to pick it up tomorrow.  8)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2012, 08:09:17 am
most of the other forums I am on use vbulletin, so...;)

Let me ask you about tapatalk, and perhaps all paid apps....If I do a factory reset on my android, am I going to have to buy it again, or is there some kind of registration process that will know I already paid?

As for the other, look dude:

You didn't seem to get my "rocker" reference, but then you said you've seen the movie a thousand times.  Then you went off on this confusing tangent of Spade v Dirt. I had 2 options at this point:

1) you are a little thick in the head

2) you are trying to get a rise out of me

If the former, there's nothing wrong with that, I'm a little stupid from time to time as well

If the latter, then we are of common gound and I would like to share my secrets with you.

I got no beef, sir, we are both fighters of foo.

A few things to make your life easier on TNF:

1) Ditch the Droid and catch iEnvy for all your computing and communication needs.
2) We are Blazing Saddles, Pulp Fiction, and Airplane here
3) Every discussion must eventually segue into a discussion on beer.  Or BBQ.  We like the home team: Marshalls.  No time for Choc on here.

(And no, Im still too cheap for Tapatalk.)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 15, 2012, 08:31:02 am
Jesus Christ....I've heard Justin Beiber more than I care to admit to.  And I have never heard the entirety of a single song.

If I pretended to understand a justin beiber reference, and someone came back to me with "obviously you've never heard the song", the last thing I would reply with is "Oh, I've heard more Justin Beiber than I care to admit to."

unless I was trolling, then that would be the FIRST thing I would come back with.

You feel me bro?

Look, I think we are kindred in a way, just accept it.

I ain't going to try to one-up you with telling you I regularly chat with guys that played for Clapton, or regail you with the tales of how we lost out to Chainsaw Kittens to open for Jane's Addiction....

Tulsa has a rich heritage of music and celebrity.

That Foo Fighters show in May was some loud donkey smile though. :D  Don't tell me you were the jackass that was complaining about the people standing during Motorhead though...

Thanks for the tapatalk advice, I am going to pick it up tomorrow.  8)

I was actually in the concourse for Motorhead.  Lemmy just ain't my thing.  I like some of his music, but I've been a fan of the foo/Dave Grohl since Nirvana.  Hard to believe had Dave said yes to Tom Petty the Foo would not be around..most likely anyway.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 15, 2012, 08:32:31 am
A few things to make your life easier on TNF:

1) Ditch the Droid and catch iEnvy for all your computing and communication needs.
2) We are Blazing Saddles, Pulp Fiction, and Airplane here
3) Every discussion must eventually segue into a discussion on beer.  Or BBQ.  We like the home team: Marshalls.  No time for Choc on here.

(And no, Im still too cheap for Tapatalk.)


1.  Don't listen to Conan..he's an iSheeple.
2.  Most definitely.  Caddyshack also.
3.  Yes.  If by page 4 no-one has invoked a reference to Marshall's, it behooves that member to insert the reference.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2012, 08:42:21 am
1.  Don't listen to Conan..he's an iSheeple.


Dont listen to Hoss, he simply lacks the intellect to properly appreciate iEverything.  :-*


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 15, 2012, 10:13:25 am
I was actually in the concourse for Motorhead.  Lemmy just ain't my thing.  I like some of his music, but I've been a fan of the foo/Dave Grohl since Nirvana.  Hard to believe had Dave said yes to Tom Petty the Foo would not be around..most likely anyway.

sweet.  I'm not a Motorhead devotee, but I do like them when I can, and seeing them live was certainly a highlight for me...even bought one of their shirts.

Grohl and FF are the man though - they were louder than Motorhead, who's motto is "Everything Louder than Everything Else"

I suppose you heard that their concert in New Zealand triggered the seismographs there. :D

Other than that, I can see right now you and I are going to be on the same side against Conan.

How can you be too cheap to pay for an app, but espouse the virtues of iEverything, the epitome of wallet rape in modern civilization?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2012, 10:21:46 am
sweet.  I'm not a Motorhead devotee, but I do like them when I can, and seeing them live was certainly a highlight for me...even bought one of their shirts.

Grohl and FF are the man though - they were louder than Motorhead, who's motto is "Everything Louder than Everything Else"

I suppose you heard that their concert in New Zealand triggered the seismographs there. :D

Other than that, I can see right now you and I are going to be on the same side against Conan.

How can you be too cheap to pay for an app, but espouse the virtues of iEverything, the epitome of wallet rape in modern civilization?

Easy, I freeload on the free apps ;)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 15, 2012, 10:27:48 am
Easy, I freeload on the free apps ;)

Must love those ads then...  ;D


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 15, 2012, 11:50:47 am
Easy, I freeload on the free apps ;)

Has the freeloading even begun to offset the amount you've overpaid for the devices? ;)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2012, 12:06:08 pm
Has the freeloading even begun to offset the amount you've overpaid for the devices? ;)

Machine reliability, seamless sharing amongst devices, and the freedom from Bill Gates Windows-based lock ups has been worth the extra $$.

I really was slow to embrace iEverything.  My older daughter kept shaming me then I got my first iPhone and it was over from there.  Still havent found a justifiable use for an iPad yet, but thatll happen sooner or later.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Koti on March 15, 2012, 12:38:01 pm
I am a long time reader on the TulsaNow forum but this is my first post.  I can't figure out how to start a new topic.  Could someone give me some help?  Thanks in advance!


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Townsend on March 15, 2012, 12:38:50 pm
I am a long time reader on the TulsaNow forum but this is my first post.  I can't figure out how to start a new topic.  Could someone give me some help?  Thanks in advance!

Post 4 more times.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Koti on March 15, 2012, 12:41:09 pm
Post 4 more times.

That was quick.  Thanks!  (I guess now it's just 3!)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Townsend on March 15, 2012, 12:47:22 pm
That was quick.  Thanks!  (I guess now it's just 3!)


Mention Marshall's beer for bonus points


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: DolfanBob on March 15, 2012, 01:08:36 pm
I am a long time reader on the TulsaNow forum but this is my first post.  I can't figure out how to start a new topic.  Could someone give me some help?  Thanks in advance!

Wow ! we are on a roll boy's.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 15, 2012, 02:07:07 pm
Machine reliability, seamless sharing amongst devices, and the freedom from Bill Gates Windows-based lock ups has been worth the extra $$.

well I don't know how vitriolic the mac/pc fights get on here, but I have to break it to you, my android does all that...

...and I mean take the sharing and specifically music for example.  Amazon MP3 has cloud...AND drm free, .mp3 format.  So I mean to say your version of "seamless" does come with some caveats, does it not?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2012, 03:13:46 pm
well I don't know how vitriolic the mac/pc fights get on here, but I have to break it to you, my android does all that...

...and I mean take the sharing and specifically music for example.  Amazon MP3 has cloud...AND drm free, .mp3 format.  So I mean to say your version of "seamless" does come with some caveats, does it not?

Yeah, but do you have iPride?  ;)

Actually, we rarely bring it up, its more a tongue-in-cheek thing here and Im pretty daft when it comes to technology.  I probably dont use even 1/2 the capability of any electronic device I own.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: nathanm on March 15, 2012, 03:17:26 pm
I probably dont use even 1/2 the capability of any electronic device I own.

It's OK, I'm using the other half.  ;D


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: RecycleMichael on March 15, 2012, 08:09:23 pm
  I probably dont use even 1/2 the capability of any electronic device I own.

My phone can land airplanes ands bake potatoes


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 15, 2012, 08:40:37 pm
My phone makes phone calls!

Mac and PC discussions remind me of the stencil on the back window of pickup trucks of the little guy pissing on the logo of the "other guy"....either Ford or Chevy.

About the same mentality level, too.

Anything anyone gets is gonna do some things better than the other and some worse.  Just depends on what you want to do.  Mostly it's "I am a iSomething fan" or "I'm a PC."  Goofy.

I've used Macs for work on a major bomber project and use PCs for a bunch of other stuff.  And use an antique Nokia phone to make phone calls.  All work well for the jobs.



Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 15, 2012, 08:43:00 pm
My phone makes phone calls!

Mac and PC discussions remind me of the stencil on the back window of pickup trucks of the little guy pissing on the logo of the "other guy"....either Ford or Chevy.

About the same mentality level, too.

Anything anyone gets is gonna do some things better than the other and some worse.  Just depends on what you want to do.  Mostly it's "I am a iSomething fan" or "I'm a PC."  Goofy.



I always look at it this way.

Those people who are not tinkerers will choose the iPhone.  It's simple to use and damn near dummy proof.

Those who do tinker will get an Android.

Those who want to pull their hair out will get a BlackBerry.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 15, 2012, 08:44:32 pm
I always look at it this way.

Those people who are not tinkerers will choose the iPhone.  It's simple to use and damn near dummy proof.

Those who do tinker will get an Android.

Those who want to pull their hair out will get a BlackBerry.

That's why I stick with the Nokia.  No drama.  No trauma.  Just phone calls.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 15, 2012, 10:16:47 pm
I always look at it this way.

Those people who are not tinkerers will choose the iPhone.  It's simple to use and damn near dummy proof.



Just revealed why I love my iStuff.  Especially the damn near dummy proof part.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: nathanm on March 15, 2012, 11:24:59 pm
And use an antique Nokia phone to make phone calls.  All work well for the jobs.

Only having to charge once or twice a week sure is nice, isn't it?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 16, 2012, 10:01:04 pm
look, I'm not a fanboi for anyone, but I think this will explain some...

The common conception that Andriod is for tinkereres and iPhone is for idiots...I mean, it kind of holds some water, however I think it comes down to more along the lines of this:

I had an app on my android 2 years ago that Siri was based on....kind of ironic the iEverything tagline "there's an app for that"...but I had "siri" app 2 years ago on android...but it is the new hot smile now like Apple invented it.

There are many examples, but so many of them can be retrolinked to this basic premise:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 16, 2012, 10:05:41 pm
look, I'm not a fanboi for anyone, but I think this will explain some...

The common conception that Andriod is for tinkereres and iPhone is for idiots...I mean, it kind of holds some water, however I think it comes down to more along the lines of this:

I had an app on my android 2 years ago that Siri was based on....kind of ironic the iEverything tagline "there's an app for that"...but I had "siri" app 2 years ago on android...but it is the new hot smile now like Apple invented it.

There are many examples, but so many of them can be retrolinked to this basic premise:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

When PC were early in their popularity, I thought why should I buy software when I could write a quick program myself.  As commercial software became more and more useful, I changed my mind.   Just like most EEs don't design an OP Amp rather than use an available chip, I don't choose to tinker if something is readily available that meets my needs.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 16, 2012, 10:54:12 pm
When PC were early in their popularity, I thought why should I buy software when I could write a quick program myself.  As commercial software became more and more useful, I changed my mind.   Just like most EEs don't design an OP Amp rather than use an available chip, I don't choose to tinker if something is readily available that meets my needs.

look, Jobs was VERY clear on this...he would NOT give the consumer what they wanted, but instead he would TELL the consumer what they NEEDED.

...and so now I end up having to deal with national companies that WANT my services, but are kind of put off that I can't just click on MSoutlook and see my semi-retired CEO's minute-by-minute schedule (ironic)......then on the conference call (that did not have to be rescheduled) with their sales TECHNICAL support, who is not familiar with FTP.....

I see this all the time.  I had to suffer through a debate between a THS worker and some jackass from Sanfrancisco, and how they would denegrate their respective (PC based) IT Departments...."why can't I get my Exchange emails on my iPad?"

and how it's 2012 alreadty and EVERYONE has an iPad, and you should get on that smile, what kind of operation are you running?....

forgetting that iWhetever holds less that 50% of the phone market, and disregarding that iWhatever only holds 5% of anything else corporately.

but by god my bucking iPad better integrate.............

........because the commercials on TV told me it would.

You feel me?

iEverthing is going to ruin civilization....but when we rise again, first thing we will do is build a bucking Steve Jobs statue.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: AquaMan on March 17, 2012, 10:18:38 am
thanks for the laughs. You guys confirm to me that more effort is spent on techno crap issues these days than on running businesses. When the toys begin to genuinely get in the way of doing business, get rid of the toys.

Remember, the Golden Gate bridge, submarines, skyscrapers, automobiles and dominating world economies of the 20th century were all built with slide rules, pencils and a population with less than 50% telephone availability and only 15% college grads. We did this before macs, pcs and iphones.

I have to go. My beeper/pager is going off....


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: ZYX on March 17, 2012, 11:00:30 am
Quote
Still haven't found a justifiable use for an iPad yet, but that'll happen sooner or later

I have found many for mine. Just buy one now, find a reason later. You can get a good deal in the i2 right now

 ;D

No, I don't ever come out if Apple fanboy mode


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 17, 2012, 11:39:42 am
thanks for the laughs. You guys confirm to me that more effort is spent on techno crap issues these days than on running businesses. When the toys begin to genuinely get in the way of doing business, get rid of the toys.

Remember, the Golden Gate bridge, submarines, skyscrapers, automobiles and dominating world economies of the 20th century were all built with slide rules, pencils and a population with less than 50% telephone availability and only 15% college grads. We did this before macs, pcs and iphones.

I have to go. My beeper/pager is going off....

A lot of that stuff was built with safety factors to allow for slide rules and pencils.  Remember the Lockheed Electra?  Remember 10 mpg cars and the fatality rates for many of those classics? Galloping Gertie bridge?  The fact that there have actually been relatively few disasters (in spite of the TV shows "Engineering Disasters", many of which were management induced) speaks well for my profession.

There are some really valuable tools but a lot of the stuff out there is there because it can be.

I have to go do some lawn work.  I need to burn some calories and working in the yard is more fun than going to a gym.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: AquaMan on March 17, 2012, 01:22:25 pm
A lot of that stuff was built with safety factors to allow for slide rules and pencils.  Remember the Lockheed Electra?  Remember 10 mpg cars and the fatality rates for many of those classics? Galloping Gertie bridge?  The fact that there have actually been relatively few disasters (in spite of the TV shows "Engineering Disasters", many of which were management induced) speaks well for my profession.

There are some really valuable tools but a lot of the stuff out there is there because it can be.

Those are exceptions but even so, as you point out they factored in error margins. And often they engineered for the existing parameters which is why my home had no insulation in its walls (natural gas was cheap and plentiful in this area) and why an economy car like the 66 Chevy Nova still got no better than 16mpg with an anemic 6cylinder (gasoline was about 15 cents a gallon).

I love the valuable tools but it seems most are designed to eliminate labor and to increase speed, not improve quality. We still have catastrophes because we keep using humans to direct the computers. Silly species.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 19, 2012, 12:01:33 pm
A lot of that stuff was built with safety factors to allow for slide rules and pencils.  Remember the Lockheed Electra?  Remember 10 mpg cars and the fatality rates for many of those classics? Galloping Gertie bridge?  The fact that there have actually been relatively few disasters (in spite of the TV shows "Engineering Disasters", many of which were management induced) speaks well for my profession.



Let me finish that last sentence properly -  "speaks well for my profession, in spite of everything management tries to do to trip that profession up."

I know...you touched on it, but it deserves explicit explanation. 




Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 20, 2012, 09:00:52 pm
I am proud to have taken this thread in this direction. 

Hoss, take notes.



Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 20, 2012, 09:01:55 pm
I am proud to have taken this thread in this direction. 

Hoss, take notes.



No, you take notes.

Marshall Brewing Company.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 20, 2012, 10:02:31 pm
No, you take notes.

Marshall Brewing Company.

that didn't work.  I had another thread jacked for 3 pages, no one mentioned Marshall.

I may be here to re-define the MArshall threadjack...

Marshall....as in Amplification.

Unless you might be saying to me that Marshall Brewing owns this site?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 20, 2012, 10:10:52 pm
that didn't work.  I had another thread jacked for 3 pages, no one mentioned Marshall.

I may be here to re-define the MArshall threadjack...

Marshall....as in Amplification.

Unless you might be saying to me that Marshall Brewing owns this site?

You've not read enough on this site yet.  Keep trying.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 20, 2012, 10:21:27 pm
who recommended me to tapatalk?

I just hit the "purchase" button, then phone restart.  Then tapatalk did NOT appear on apps list.

I been around boareds, and I read "enough"


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 20, 2012, 10:26:28 pm
who recommended me to tapatalk?

I just hit the "purchase" button, then phone restart.  Then tapatalk did NOT appear on apps list.

I been around boareds, and I read "enough"

"Boareds"?

Why did you restart the phone?  Not needed with Android.  If you purchased it, you can download it again as long as it says 'purchased' in the Market/Google Play.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: dbacks fan on March 21, 2012, 12:43:31 am
A lot of that stuff was built with safety factors to allow for slide rules and pencils.  Remember the Lockheed Electra?  Remember 10 mpg cars and the fatality rates for many of those classics?

Remember the DeHavilland Comet? One important note on this was that the problems were a result of not understanding metal fatigue at key points in the fuselage mainly around the windows. But it was an absolute marvel in it's time.

http://plane-truth.com/comet.htm (http://plane-truth.com/comet.htm)


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 21, 2012, 06:43:41 am
Remember the DeHavilland Comet? One important note on this was that the problems were a result of not understanding metal fatigue at key points in the fuselage mainly around the windows. But it was an absolute marvel in it's time.

http://plane-truth.com/comet.htm (http://plane-truth.com/comet.htm)

The relatively sharp corner radii were a factor in the fatigue.  That's why airliners all have well rounded (large radii) window corners now.  Yep, except for the crashes, the Comet was a big step forward in transportation.




Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on March 21, 2012, 08:39:30 am
The relatively sharp corner radii were a factor in the fatigue.  That's why airliners all have well rounded (large radii) window corners now.  Yep, except for the crashes, the Comet was a big step forward in transportation.


Yeah...falling out of the sky is always a detriment to air travel.

It was such a good looking plane, though.  Always liked the engine shape.  Not sure it can be called a nacelle since it is so closely tied to the wing, but beautiful!

 


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 22, 2012, 06:40:44 am
Why did you restart the phone?  Not needed with Android.  If you purchased it, you can download it again as long as it says 'purchased' in the Market/Google Play.

I didn't restart the phone, it restarted itself. I hit the "purchase" button and then the phone restarted. i.e. something went wrong, badly wrong.  If I get billed for it, then very badly wrong.

Maybe I'll give it another try though.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 22, 2012, 06:45:30 am
I didn't restart the phone, it restarted itself. I hit the "purchase" button and then the phone restarted. i.e. something went wrong, badly wrong.  If I get billed for it, then very badly wrong.

Maybe I'll give it another try though.

If you got billed for it, you can redownload it FOR NOTHING.  Once you purchase it, it's yours.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 22, 2012, 06:51:41 am
If you got billed for it, you can redownload it FOR NOTHING.  Once you purchase it, it's yours.

I didn't purchase it.  It's not on my phone... just saying, there seemed to be a fatal error. 

That being the case, IF I got billed for it, but I personally have no record of install, then no, although I'm sure tMo will be happy to reversed the charge.

But I doubt the purchase went through. anyway, maybe I'll try again.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Hoss on March 22, 2012, 06:56:37 am
I didn't purchase it.  It's not on my phone... just saying, there seemed to be a fatal error. 

That being the case, IF I got billed for it, but I personally have no record of install, then no, although I'm sure tMo will be happy to reversed the charge.

But I doubt the purchase went through. anyway, maybe I'll try again.

If you have the option to have the purchase billed to your credit card/debit card, that's how I do mine.  I don't trust the carrier for billing on the regular billing half the time.  Let alone app purchases.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Conan71 on March 22, 2012, 08:17:53 am
Funny, I dont have those problems with my iPhone when I download apps.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 22, 2012, 06:29:24 pm
If you have the option to have the purchase billed to your credit card/debit card, that's how I do mine.  I don't trust the carrier for billing on the regular billing half the time.  Let alone app purchases.

yeh, I bet money it's something on my tMo account...might try it again here in a sec.

Funny, I dont have those problems with my iPhone when I download apps.

I bet you don't get as drunk as I do either.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 22, 2012, 06:33:03 pm
lol, I didn't see and/or check the "I agree to TOS" button the other night...is that why they call it "blind drunk"? :D  

installing now.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 22, 2012, 06:44:42 pm
I bet you don't get as drunk as I do either.

Something for you to be proud of, I'm sure.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 22, 2012, 07:13:52 pm
Something for you to be proud of, I'm sure.

don't be mad bro.  I'm a old school okie, from back when deals were made on how you hold your liquor.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 22, 2012, 09:31:34 pm
don't be mad bro.  I'm a old school okie, from back when deals were made on how you hold your liquor.

I'm not mad, or angry either. It's your liver.  I used to brag about getting drunk a l-o-n-g time ago in college and the Navy.  It's not so cool anymore as I've seen too many friends and relatives turn into alcoholics.  I also don't care for a headache the next day.  That doesn't mean I don't enjoy a few beers in quantities above what the militant non-drinkers label as casual social drinking. 


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 22, 2012, 09:58:51 pm
I'm not mad, or angry either. It's your liver.  I used to brag about getting drunk a l-o-n-g time ago in college and the Navy.  It's not so cool anymore as I've seen too many friends and relatives turn into alcoholics.  I also don't care for a headache the next day.  That doesn't mean I don't enjoy a few beers in quantities above what the militant non-drinkers label as casual social drinking.

As I said, I'm a old man.  I know it's "not cool" and I don't give a love.  I still smoke.

I don't care for the headaches the next day either, that is why I don't drink booze that gives me a headache.

You see?

in your 20's = grumble about smile that the interenet tells you you should grumble about

in your 30's = tell dudes in their 40's what they are doing wrong

in your 40's = do smile that tells those in their 20's what they think they should be bitching about

in your 50's = make sure that you are making profits on steps 1-3, and if not, then make sure you made a golden parachute.

in your 60's = be on a boat, or relegate yourself to your place in life

in your 70's = die.  if not, then repeat the last step.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: Red Arrow on March 22, 2012, 10:18:44 pm
As I said, I'm a old man.  I know it's "not cool" and I don't give a love.  I still smoke.
I don't care for the headaches the next day either, that is why I don't drink booze that gives me a headache.

I'm not exactly a youngster.  I used to smoke a pipe (tobacco) and cigars but quit.  I wasn't enjoying it anymore and too many family and friends were dying due to smoking related health issues.  When I was a teenager, the Ouija Board said I was going to live to 105 yrs old.  I don't want the last decades to be in a nursing home.  I am not a fitness nut but do try to avoid truly detrimental activities.  I'm glad you found some booze that doesn't give you a headache.  You are either lucky or lying about how drunk you get.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: dbacks fan on March 22, 2012, 10:30:05 pm
I'm glad you found some booze that doesn't give you a headache.  You are either lucky or lying about how drunk you get.

I don't think his ego will let him say one way ot the other.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheArtist on March 23, 2012, 07:08:16 am
   In Oklahoma the prevailing attitudes when you mention alchohol are "get drunk" or "it's evil and bad for you".  It's those attitudes about alchohol that causes so many problems here in Oklahoma and keeps our absurd liquor laws in place.

  Rather than have a prevailing attitude that...

lWhile the brain is young and still developing, Kids shouldn't drink it, for it can alter that important process.  But when your older, and like most other things, in moderation and with good habits, alchohol is no big deal.  Couple servings a day, with meal and or friends, it can be part of a healthy diet and lifestyle.  And, just like with sex, food, video games, prescription drugs, "thrill seeking" etc. we must keep an eye out for our friends when excesses/problems and addictions arise and have systems in place to help them when those exceptions occur.  But again, for most, in moderation (2-3 servings max, over the course of a day) and with good habits, alchohol can be part of a healthy diet and lifestyle.  

  Having the attitude that drinking is bad and evil, actually creates a situation where healthy attitudes, lifestyles, and responses to alchohol are NOT learned and taught, and thus irony of ironies, leads to... "bad and evil" related attitudes, lifestyles and responses to alchohol.

 Mention having a drink here and your likely to get "it's bad" or "Yea! let's get drunk!"   I get tired of that frankly.  Course here in this state, we can't even create good eating habits and lifestyle choices and kill ourselves off at a higher rate because of it than just about any other state, and most countries for that matter.  We have more heart disease, more blindness from diabetes and limbs being damaged or even CUT OFF from diabetes than just about any place else just as one example.

  So when your on here bragging about "getting drunk".  Know your part of the problem in this state.  Your part of the culture that, instead of inculcating good attitudes, habits and lifestlye choices, is instead doing just the opposite.  It's not good for you, and it's not good for people around you including young adults and children hearing it. And you know what, it's part and parcel of the very thing a lot of people on here complain about, our absurd and out-dated liquor laws.  Perhaps you deserve what you get in that respect.  You have now "drunk and seen the spider".  Perhaps, once more people begin to become part of a reasonable, responsible, culture, then reasonable laws will prevail.

 I have drunk alchohol most of my adult life.  But have never been "drunk" once.  Just like when I was a young person and was told, "If you have eaten till your full, you have eaten too much."  I was also told,  "If you drink till your drunk, you have had too much."  I remember when I was in Paris and mentioned having a drink and a quick snack or something to eat.  The response was completely the opposite of what you get a lot of here.  There, not even a bat of an eye and you would perhaps have one or two drinks with a small snack at a cafe or apartment.  Here, DRINK! yea! I will get a bottle of Vodka, you get some mixers and we will go out afterwards and DRINK MORE!  Drink= drinking so much you get drunk, thats the goal, that's what alchohol is.  I am like pancakes! lol, why can't people here be normal lol. It's just sickening here and its sad.  Not everyone is that way here mind you, but a LOT more than there should be.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 23, 2012, 01:37:36 pm
A)  I ain't bragging about anything...I'm not trying to win any contest or anything either, I just happen be able to consume a significant quantity. 

What I don't care for is a bunch of preaching about how I utilize my time, from people who do not know me.

and 2) yes it is that Tito's vodka - if you haven't tried it, you should.  And like I said, no headache.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: dbacks fan on March 23, 2012, 01:40:05 pm

I bet you don't get as drunk as I do either.


No bragging huh?


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: TheMindWillNotLetGo on March 23, 2012, 01:48:53 pm
No bragging huh?

Kind of took that out of context didn't you.  

Guy said he didn't have a screw up when he did something simple, and I intimated that if he were as drunk as I was, he might.

I call it self-deprecation.  You can spin it as bragging if you want, but the bottom line is, it turned out to be the truth.


Title: Re: New site, new look
Post by: jmikeh on April 07, 2012, 04:27:07 pm
It has been awhile since I have been on here.  I kind of like the new look and colors.  Still getting used to it.