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Title: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Teatownclown on May 29, 2011, 01:06:41 pm
“On a per capita basis,” Kline writes, “Tulsa far surpasses cities notorious for misconduct, such as Los Angeles, New York, Detroit and Philadelphia.”

“The Tulsa Police Department is arguably the most embattled police force in the country,” Mason writes. “Rocked by a recent corruption scandal that has so far resulted in the dismissal or reduction of 32 criminal cases, at a taxpayer cost expected to run into the millions, the TPD is ensnared in an epic legal mess.”
http://thislandpress.com/05/26/2011/misconduct-city-an-investigative-report/

Trial starts this week....nyet?

In Russia, Prisons for Police Thrive
By ANDREW E. KRAMER

NIZHNY TAIGIL, Russia — Like a scene from a felon’s daydream, all the
inmates at a prison compound here in western Russia — some 2,000 of
them — are former policemen, prosecutors, tax inspectors, customs
agents and judges.

Most of the day, they mill about, glum-faced, dressed in prison
clothes. The only visible hints of the policemen’s former employment
are the occasional buzz cuts.

Russian penitentiary authorities offered a rare tour of this
specialized penal colony recently with an eye to demonstrating that
these inmates receive no privileges.

In some ways, the officials proved their point. At least as far as
accommodations go, the prison is as grim as most. Inside the walls of
unpainted concrete slabs, barbed wire slashes the prison yards into
zones for those doing hard time and minor offenders. And like the men
and women they put behind bars, former police officers here live in
rough-hewn brick barracks, toil in a workshop and eat boiled buckwheat
and cabbage.

But the tour of the prison, Correctional Colony 13, also underscored a
point that the authorities might not have intended to highlight: most
of the inmates are here for work-related infractions, from accepting
bribes to attacking suspects.

As Andrei V. Shumilov, a former detective, said of his conviction for
beating a suspect with his fists during questioning: “I was
investigating a crime, and I committed a crime myself.”

By way of justification, he mumbled that the man had suffered only
“damage to soft tissue.”

More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/world/europe/29prisons.html


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: dbacks fan on May 29, 2011, 06:34:56 pm
"This Land" what is that, some teabag rag?


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Teatownclown on May 29, 2011, 08:01:16 pm
"This Land" what is that, some teabag rag?

Well, congrats. You just proved what we thought you might be...... ;D



Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Jammie on May 29, 2011, 09:48:09 pm
http://thislandpress.com/about/

For a paper who wants to promote peace and harmony and tolerance, they sure seem to have a lot of hateful articles.


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Teatownclown on May 30, 2011, 12:06:30 am
http://thislandpress.com/about/

For a paper who wants to promote peace and harmony and tolerance, they sure seem to have a lot of hateful articles.

There's a significant amount of your intolerance aimed at minorities and the poor looking through your few but dated posts. We couldn't expect you to understand intolerance so why did you imply their articles are hateful?  Getting the truth out only hurts those exposed for breaking our moral codes... This Land promotes peace and harmony by holding up light to injustice. Perhaps you are not familiar with journalistic integrity.

Good journalism that distinguishes right from wrong is not a form of hate. Explain? Where is the hate?



Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Teatownclown on May 31, 2011, 01:14:30 pm
http://www.politicsplus.org/blog/?p=4969
"In a marked shift from the Bush administration, President Obama’s Justice Department is aggressively investigating several big urban police departments for systematic civil rights abuses such as harassment of racial minorities, false arrests, and excessive use of force."


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Conan71 on May 31, 2011, 02:49:41 pm
Where does the article reference TPD?


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: dbacks fan on May 31, 2011, 03:02:30 pm
"In a marked shift from the Bush administration, President Obama’s Justice Department is aggressively investigating several big urban police departments for systematic civil rights abuses such as harassment of racial minorities, false arrests, and excessive use of force."

Police Dept. corruption? Only been happening since when, around the time of prohibition? There have been corrupt "enforcers of the law" going back to Roman times, and I'm sure it will be that way long after most of us are gone.


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: dbacks fan on May 31, 2011, 03:07:48 pm
Where does the article reference TPD?

The Politics Plus one doesn't. This Land Press has this gem: "Ultimately, “Misconduct City” is a powerful portrait of a police force struggling to adequately deal with its problems.
On Tuesday, May 31, This Land Press will release “Misconduct City: The Assault of Arthur Bradley Reveals a Culture of Chaos at the TPD” on its website. "



Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Conan71 on May 31, 2011, 03:09:02 pm
The Politics Plus one doesn't. This Land Press has this gem: "Ultimately, “Misconduct City” is a powerful portrait of a police force struggling to adequately deal with its problems.
On Tuesday, May 31, This Land Press will release “Misconduct City: The Assault of Arthur Bradley Reveals a Culture of Chaos at the TPD” on its website. "



Understood, just trying to figure out the latest undulation from TTAC.


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Hoss on May 31, 2011, 03:17:33 pm
Understood, just trying to figure out the latest undulation from TTAC.

I saw the title of this and immediately thought he was talking about a hockey movie or some such...


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: dbacks fan on May 31, 2011, 03:20:05 pm
Understood, just trying to figure out the latest undulation from TTAC.

I haven't, but I'm waiting for that scene from the movie "Scanners".......


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Jammie on May 31, 2011, 05:23:15 pm
I'm honored that you took the time to read my "few but dated posts." You may want to brush up on your comprehension skills if you think I'm prejudiced toward the poor or any legal American citizen.

You must be good at making friends and making people feel welcome.


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: guido911 on May 31, 2011, 05:53:00 pm
I'm honored that you took the time to read my "few but dated posts." You may want to brush up on your comprehension skills if you think I'm prejudiced toward the poor or any legal American citizen.

You must be good at making friends and making people feel welcome.

Don't sweat that guy. His upcoming meltdown leading to his next banning will be soon.


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Teatownclown on May 31, 2011, 06:12:59 pm
I'm honored that you took the time to read my "few but dated posts." You may want to brush up on your comprehension skills if you think I'm prejudiced toward the poor or any legal American citizen.

You must be good at making friends and making people feel welcome.

My comprehension skills make it possible to read between the lines.....


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: dbacks fan on May 31, 2011, 06:57:57 pm
My comprehension skills make it possible to read between the lines.....

The lines you see in the mirror?


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: guido911 on May 31, 2011, 07:10:54 pm
The lines you see in the mirror?

This?

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHl7WRIndcMaJxUkCTxn5C7pUf8IoVYfUvftUHPckITdnTjSfv)


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: dbacks fan on May 31, 2011, 07:14:18 pm
This?

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHl7WRIndcMaJxUkCTxn5C7pUf8IoVYfUvftUHPckITdnTjSfv)

Yes, that is what I was refering to.


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: guido911 on May 31, 2011, 09:45:10 pm
Yes, that is what I was refering to.

You are a meanie.. ;D


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: dbacks fan on May 31, 2011, 09:52:10 pm
You are a meanie.. ;D

Did I miss something?


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Teatownclown on May 31, 2011, 09:54:08 pm
You are a meanieBULLY.. ;D

In a city where misconduct is rampant, only the bully's rule.... :D

Cocaine is a scourge...so is YIkes chili.... :P


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Vashta Nerada on November 15, 2012, 07:15:32 pm
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The Chicago police department has been found guilty of covering up the beating of a female bartender by a city police officer, and was criticized for honoring a "code of silence" in which officers cover up for one another's misdeeds.

The altercation was caught on surveillance tape, but Chicago police officers ignored the tape's existence and failed to mention in their police report that the assailant was a city cop.  Attorneys presented evidence, including hundreds of phone calls between Officer Abbate and other cops in the hours after the incident, that convinced the jury there was a widespread effort to cover up the attack.

Abbate was eventually charged and found guilty of felony battery and lost his job. On Tuesday, however, a federal jury went farther, condemning the entire police department as well as Abbate for covering up the crime.

Craig Futterman, a law professor at the University of Chicago who has studied the code of silence in Chicago: "The bulk of the Chicago police department isn't made up of officers who go around beating up bar maids and pummeling them gratuitously for no reason or in drunken rage." he said.
"Still, it's something that departments as a whole and police leadership tends to shy away from. I think the best police leaders try to take it head on, and they do have those conversations about what needs to be done, but they need to have support not just in the police department, but from the mayor, too. When you're dealing with an entrenched culture, the rank and file can just wait out that person," Futterman said.
"But for that (video), Anthony Abbate would still be a police officer today. If it became Karolina's word against Anthony Abbate … this case would have gone nowhere."

In dramatic testimony, Patti Chiriboga, an Abbate confidant, recanted her grand jury testimony that she passed along a threatening message from Abbate to the bar's manager that he would plant cocaine and falsely charge witnesses if they didn't drop the matter and give him the video.  The conversation was secretly recorded by the bar manager and played at trial.

Just days after the owner of Jesse's Short Stop Inn installed security cameras, Abbate went into a rage when Obrycka tried to prevent him from coming behind the bar. Abbate, who testified that he was drunk after downing multiple alcoholic drinks and shots, tossed the diminutive Obrycka to the floor and then whaled away at her with his fists and feet.

"Nobody tells me what to do," Abbate was heard proclaiming on the video repeatedly played at trial.

This civil trial at a federal court in Chicago was unusual. It was the first of its kind to focus almost wholly on the question of whether there is an ingrained code of silence — with most of the 2½ weeks of testimony devoted to that question.

The core issue they had to decide was not whether Abbate beat her, but whether the police culture emboldened him and led him to act with impunity in attacking her.
In the end, jurors not only found that other officers and Abbate’s superiors tried to cover up the attack at Jesse’s Short Stop Inn, but they concluded that Abbate’s knowledge of his fellow officers’ willingness to cover him created an environment that led to the attack on Obrycka.

Officer Abbate was convicted of aggravated battery in 2009 and sentenced to probation.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeRufpV0xCM[/youtube]


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Vashta Nerada on November 15, 2012, 07:56:42 pm
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A Spokane police officer was sentenced Thursday to more than four years in prison for using excessive force against a mentally disabled janitor who died after being erroneously suspected of stealing money from an ATM.
Officer Karl F. Thompson Jr. was sentenced by U.S. District Court Judge Fred Van Sickle to four years and three months.
The 65-year-old Thompson was convicted last year by a federal jury of violating Otto Zehm's civil rights by using excessive force and then lying to investigators in the case.

Six years ago, Zehm was beaten and stunned by Thompson, then hog-tied and sat on by other officers until he passed out. The 36-year-old died two days later without regaining consciousness.

Zehm had committed no crime.
On March 18, 2006, police received a report that a man matching Zehm's description might have stolen money from an ATM. Surveillance video showed Thompson found Zehm inside a convenience store and immediately struck him repeatedly with a baton and shocked him with a stun gun.

Other officers arrived and hogtied Zehm, put a rubber mask over his mouth, and sat on him. Zehm passed out and died two days later without regaining consciousness. It was later determined that he had not committed the crime.
His last words were: "All I wanted was a Snickers bar," according to trial testimony.

Anger boiled in the community about the death of Zehm, but the Spokane County prosecutor's office declined to bring charges against any officers.
Amid continuing demands for justice, federal prosecutors eventually charged Thompson with violating Zehm's civil rights through use of excessive force and then lying to investigators.

Prosecutors also alleged the case involved an extensive cover-up by police. That investigation is ongoing.


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: tulsa_fan on November 16, 2012, 08:34:28 am
Those two stories are very sad.  The individual officer's screw up is bad enough but the continued support of bad apples by others makes me sick.  It gives all officers a bad name, when in fact, most officers are pretty darn good people.  I have a hard time believe too much has changed in TPD when a certain officer is only demoted for what he got busted for, especially after Jordan made this big spectacle regarding his "new policy" where lying will result in immediate firing  . . . . well until the one lying knows the right people. 


Title: Re: "Misconduct City"
Post by: Vashta Nerada on March 26, 2014, 10:15:22 pm
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Like father:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/courts/city-settles-suit-alleging-excessive-police-force/article_67c7d6c9-1234-5732-bb2a-18441f152e4f.html

Like Son:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/crimewatch/tulsa-officer-fatally-shoots-man-during-traffic-stop/article_ad6f628f-ea06-5951-bdee-78162aec1655.html


And another killing, but more lax oversight today makes no throwdown necessary:

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/Community-gathers-to-remember-man-killed-in/_t--TyZnaUSnVSfJS03Ssg.cspx