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Talk About Tulsa => PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning => Topic started by: PonderInc on September 15, 2009, 04:41:51 pm



Title: Review PLANiTULSA vision statement & give input
Post by: PonderInc on September 15, 2009, 04:41:51 pm
Here's the "vision" document (draft) called "Our Vision for Tulsa."

http://www.planitulsa.org/files/tulsa-vision-draft-091509-screen.pdf (http://www.planitulsa.org/files/tulsa-vision-draft-091509-screen.pdf)

It includes descriptions of where we want to be and how to get there.  Be sure to read the proposed strategies & next steps (beginning on page 42). 

This is where it starts to get fun, b/c these are concrete steps that must be taken if we want to achieve real change in Tulsa.  And these changes are going to be a threat to those who like things just the way they are.  (Motto: "Preserving the status quo for a mediocre Tulsa for the past 50 years!")

To offer your thoughts and feedback on this vision document:
http://www.planitulsa.org/vision/feedback (http://www.planitulsa.org/vision/feedback)


Title: Re: Review PLANiTULSA vision statement & give input
Post by: Theron Warlick on September 16, 2009, 12:50:15 pm
Here's the "vision" document (draft) called "Our Vision for Tulsa."

http://www.planitulsa.org/files/tulsa-vision-draft-091509-screen.pdf (http://www.planitulsa.org/files/tulsa-vision-draft-091509-screen.pdf)

It includes descriptions of where we want to be and how to get there.  Be sure to read the proposed strategies & next steps (beginning on page 42). 

This is where it starts to get fun, b/c these are concrete steps that must be taken if we want to achieve real change in Tulsa.  And these changes are going to be a threat to those who like things just the way they are.  (Motto: "Preserving the status quo for a mediocre Tulsa for the past 50 years!")

To offer your thoughts and feedback on this vision document:
http://www.planitulsa.org/vision/feedback (http://www.planitulsa.org/vision/feedback)
Beat me to it. We'd like to get first reactions right away.  If other things crop up over the next few weeks, just send us another message.  Thanks. 


Title: Re: Review PLANiTULSA vision statement & give input
Post by: MDepr2007 on September 16, 2009, 05:41:00 pm
Ya know , more people in Tulsa voted for Medlock than voted in this PlaniTulsa thingy ;D


Title: Re: Review PLANiTULSA vision statement & give input
Post by: PonderInc on September 16, 2009, 09:35:40 pm
Apples and oranges. 

Any nut can go out and vote for Medlock.  All you need is an AM radio, a felt-tip pen, and the ability to draw a line.

It's a lot harder to commit the time and dedication needed to update the comprehensive plan and develop a long-range vision for an entire community. 

How long did it take you to vote for Medlock (or whomever)?  30 seconds?

If voting in the mayoral primary had taken several hours, how many people would have voted?

Thousands of Tulsans have dedicated countless hours to participate in PLANiTULSA.  They participated in 4-hour workshops, they came to evening meetings to learn more about the process, they studied the scenarios and gave thought to which elements would be the best.  They took the time to be ENGAGED in a long process.  Now, they are reading the vision document and offering their thoughts and  feedback. 

Basically, folks have been working on this for a year.

Which takes a lot more dedication than checking a box on a ballot, one morning before work.

However, you'll be happy to know that more people "voted" on this PLANiTULSA thingy than for any of the city councillors...


Title: Re: Review PLANiTULSA vision statement & give input
Post by: sgrizzle on September 17, 2009, 09:10:26 am
Just to share. I heard discussed in a meeting of a group that Medlock is a part of, and that endorsed Medlock, that Planitulsa was confusing process that wealthy midtown elitists were using to force their views of how the city should be on the rest of us...


Title: Re: Review PLANiTULSA vision statement & give input
Post by: Conan71 on September 17, 2009, 09:23:35 am
Just to share. I heard discussed in a meeting of a group that Medlock is a part of, and that endorsed Medlock, that Planitulsa was confusing process that wealthy midtown elitists were using to force their views of how the city should be on the rest of us...

What a dolt...

Somehow he will find more people to bankroll another campaign of FAIL in the future.


Title: Re: Review PLANiTULSA vision statement & give input
Post by: MDepr2007 on September 17, 2009, 05:36:46 pm
Apples and oranges. 

Any nut can go out and vote for Medlock.  All you need is an AM radio, a felt-tip pen, and the ability to draw a line.

It's a lot harder to commit the time and dedication needed to update the comprehensive plan and develop a long-range vision for an entire community. 

How long did it take you to vote for Medlock (or whomever)?  30 seconds?

If voting in the mayoral primary had taken several hours, how many people would have voted?

Thousands of Tulsans have dedicated countless hours to participate in PLANiTULSA.  They participated in 4-hour workshops, they came to evening meetings to learn more about the process, they studied the scenarios and gave thought to which elements would be the best.  They took the time to be ENGAGED in a long process.  Now, they are reading the vision document and offering their thoughts and  feedback. 

Basically, folks have been working on this for a year.

Which takes a lot more dedication than checking a box on a ballot, one morning before work.

However, you'll be happy to know that more people "voted" on this PLANiTULSA thingy than for any of the city councillors...

Umm.. People had to drive to the polling location to vote for Medlock but only had to turn on a computer to vote on the A B C or D for PlaniTulsa....
I wasn't speaking about the planning part or the campaign process, just the end result. yes it is still apples and prunes


Title: Re: Review PLANiTULSA vision statement & give input
Post by: PonderInc on September 18, 2009, 02:43:05 pm
So, has anyone actually read the vision document and provided their feedback yet?

http://www.planitulsa.org/ (http://www.planitulsa.org/)