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Talk About Tulsa => PlaniTulsa & Urban Planning => Topic started by: USRufnex on August 16, 2009, 06:12:42 pm



Title: Where have all the bold ideas gone?
Post by: USRufnex on August 16, 2009, 06:12:42 pm
Hmmmmm.... this article isn't about Tulsa.... it's from the Portland Tribune.

Where have all the bold ideas gone?
ANALYSIS • Critics say Portland is a city that thinks small, but city leaders say part of their job is to listen
By Jennifer Anderson
The Portland Tribune, Aug 13, 2009

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story_2nd.php?story_id=125010604757119300

And yes, I purposely linked to pg 2 of the article, lest you read the soccer part first.

“All the architects can do is threaten you with slide rulers and pocket protectors and sharp pencils."

“Big ideas in Portland are rarely enthusiastically, overwhelmingly positively embraced at the outset,” he says. “Light rail – huge controversy. Streetcars – very difficult to get off the ground initially.”

“It seemed sometimes there were multiple layers of process – I can see how that would be frustrating for a developer if they were from out of town. We had a term for that: That was the Portland way.”


Title: Re: Where have all the bold ideas gone?
Post by: FOTD on August 16, 2009, 06:28:08 pm
Hmmmmm.... this article isn't about Tulsa.... it's from the Portland Tribune.

Where have all the bold ideas gone?
ANALYSIS • Critics say Portland is a city that thinks small, but city leaders say part of their job is to listen
By Jennifer Anderson
The Portland Tribune, Aug 13, 2009

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story_2nd.php?story_id=125010604757119300

And yes, I purposely linked to pg 2 of the article.

“All the architects can do is threaten you with slide rulers and pocket protectors and sharp pencils."

“Big ideas in Portland are rarely enthusiastically, overwhelmingly positively embraced at the outset,” he says. “Light rail – huge controversy. Streetcars – very difficult to get off the ground initially.”

“It seemed sometimes there were multiple layers of process – I can see how that would be frustrating for a developer if they were from out of town. We had a term for that: That was the Portland way.”


Never encourage your child to be an architect. They get fired often and especially in bad times. When they sense no work, they come up with schemes to make money which often lead developers of real estate into dangerously expensive ideas when used for imaginative concepts on a city's behalf.


Title: Re: Where have all the bold ideas gone?
Post by: DowntownNow on August 16, 2009, 06:52:01 pm
Hmmmm FOTD in that last sentence might have been channeling the group that used to be associated with Fregonese, Sienna Architects (now aka V3 Studio Architects who have locally partnered with former Matrix CEO Steve Alter)?


Title: Re: Where have all the bold ideas gone?
Post by: Conan71 on August 16, 2009, 08:20:58 pm
"Mommas don't let your kids grow up to be architects."

M'kay.

(http://media.southparkstudios.com/media/images/614/614_image_20.jpg)


Title: Re: Where have all the bold ideas gone?
Post by: USRufnex on August 16, 2009, 08:22:44 pm
I dunno.
Bing Thom got what?  $20mil off Tulsans alone?

Nice work if you can get it.