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Title: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: patric on June 26, 2009, 01:39:56 pm
Anyone here among the interviewees?

"After many months of study, extensive interviews and input from hundreds of stakeholders and interested parties, Eric Gomez, District 4 City Councilor, and Jack Crowley PhD., College of Environment and Design at the University of Georgia and special consultant to the City of Tulsa, would like to present the proposed Downtown Master Plan to the public.
You are invited to join them on Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 6:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m. in the Tulsa City Council Chambers to preview and discuss the proposal.  The Council Chambers are located on the second floor of City Hall, 175 East 2nd Street."


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: sgrizzle on June 27, 2009, 11:25:51 am
Yup. I believe Crowley talked to several thousand people.

If you're concerned about lighting aspects, you need to focus on the brady streetscaping plan as the downtown master plan is a site plan and doesn't get into that level. Although myself and others did regularly harass Crowley about lighting and I would be willing to wager a tidy sum the era of acorns is over.


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: OurTulsa on June 28, 2009, 10:34:36 am
I'm looking forward to seeing this plan.  While I expect it to focus on the part of downtown inside the IDL I am really curious to see how he plans to connect with those parts of downtown outside the noose-IDL.  I remember seeing a plan that included a streetcar on Boulder Av. that intended to connect Vetrans Park/River Parks up to the north side and OSU Tulsa. 

Looking forward to Tuesday.


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: patric on June 28, 2009, 10:54:01 am
Yup. I believe Crowley talked to several thousand people.

These were interviews?


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: sgrizzle on June 28, 2009, 02:07:13 pm
I'm looking forward to seeing this plan.  While I expect it to focus on the part of downtown inside the IDL I am really curious to see how he plans to connect with those parts of downtown outside the noose-IDL.  I remember seeing a plan that included a streetcar on Boulder Av. that intended to connect Vetrans Park/River Parks up to the north side and OSU Tulsa. 

Looking forward to Tuesday.

Yes, there is a boulder streetcar and they are trying o see if the new boulder bridge can be built specifically to accomodate it, even if the actual street car lags a bit behind.


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: sgrizzle on June 28, 2009, 02:08:51 pm
These were interviews?

Not all many were.

Interview - n - a formal meeting in which one or more persons question, consult, or evaluate


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: carltonplace on June 29, 2009, 10:28:39 am
My Neighborhood (Riverview just south of DT) got a peek and gave our feedback and ideas.


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: dsjeffries on June 30, 2009, 02:21:12 pm
*Bump*

This is tonight! Anyone going?


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: TURobY on June 30, 2009, 02:30:11 pm
I'm very interested, but unfortunately I can't make it tonight. Would someone be so kinda as to take pics or at least post the finding later?


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: dsjeffries on June 30, 2009, 03:55:37 pm
I certainly will...


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: Rico on June 30, 2009, 04:11:10 pm
Several months ago I was sent a link to some files related to the "DT Master Plan".

By mistake I think.
 
 Not sure if this is what you will see tonight. Have a look if you are curious.

http://www.4shared.com/dir/12099274/e0f3aa6d/sharing.html


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: sgrizzle on June 30, 2009, 06:00:19 pm
Several months ago I was sent a link to some files related to the "DT Master Plan".

By mistake I think.
 
 Not sure if this is what you will see tonight. Have a look if you are curious.

http://www.4shared.com/dir/12099274/e0f3aa6d/sharing.html

Those are early/initial drafts.


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: sgrizzle on July 01, 2009, 05:56:24 am
Here you go:
http://www.planitulsa.org/files/Draft_%20Pres_Downtown_Downtown_Master_Plan_Crowley2_12.08.pdf


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: patric on July 01, 2009, 07:23:36 pm
Here you go:
http://www.planitulsa.org/files/Draft_%20Pres_Downtown_Downtown_Master_Plan_Crowley2_12.08.pdf

I still havent been able to find the illustrations that appear to show details, like the one depicted here:

http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story/New-Plans-For-Downtown/p0tg1JJWvEeD1zLBM6uaMQ.cspx


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: TheArtist on July 01, 2009, 07:58:15 pm
Even the pics are pretty worthless without the commentary on what your seeing and how the things relate to each other, possible financial scenarios, etc.


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: SXSW on July 10, 2009, 01:52:09 pm
Is this a rough draft or the actual plan?  I like a lot of the ideas shown especially with regards to transportation.  Some things I would add:

1.  The Boulder Ave. streetcar is a good idea, but I would take it northbound on Boston, east on 3rd, north on Detroit, east on Brady, and then southbound Boulder to 15th or 18th and then back to Boston.  I like the circulator idea that hits multiple districts better than just a one line corridor.

2.  More parks, including one east of Holy Family Cathedral that extends all the way to Boston and serves as a catalyst for development around it on 8th and 9th.  Maybe also a park in the Blue Dome district and by the BOK Center (once Page Belcher is gone).

3.  More streetscaping, including an extension of the Boston streetscape south of 7th, where it currently ends, all the way to 18th.


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: sgrizzle on July 10, 2009, 09:23:37 pm
1. You know this is a fixed-guideway streetcar correct? I believe the plan is to have it intersect with a rubber-tire downtown circulator for getting

2. The plan does call for greenspace on the southside and there are several potential options but they have been unable to nail down a specific spot.  I believe one of the drawings does show greenspace on the west side of the existing library, in front of the bok center.

3. You may want to wait until you see the brady streetscaping plan before planning a continuation of the boston method.


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: FOTD on July 10, 2009, 09:39:05 pm
Giant Ferris Wheel?


Title: Re: Downtown Master Plan
Post by: sgrizzle on July 10, 2009, 09:40:47 pm
Giant Ferris Wheel?

I'm for it.