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Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: roscoe on July 21, 2008, 12:54:06 pm
I have heard from a good source that this place is getting ready to be filled...It's going to bring about 120 jobs to the Sand Springs area...again it's top secret on what's it's going to be...


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Ibanez on July 21, 2008, 02:53:12 pm
Interesting. I heard just last week that a Wal-Mart Family Market was going in there.

I'm assuming it is actually going to be something else.


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Bones013 on July 21, 2008, 04:50:37 pm
Any kind of positive growth in Prattville would be nice. My house was built in one of the new subdivisions in Angus Valley 3 1/2 years ago. I was hoping that I was getting in on the beginning of an area of growth. Then I quickly learned about Sand Springs city gov't.

A couple of years ago the mayor tried to get a movie theater to to take over the old Wal-Mart site. Since then I still hear the same specualtion about Lowes, and a whole slew of national chains. I don't think I'll hold my breath for a neighborhood market, even though with the the new developments and close proximity to Berryhill, West Tulsa and such, a neighborhood market would probably kill over here.

 My best guess is that it will be a machine shop.



Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: mrhaskellok on July 21, 2008, 04:57:44 pm
What kind of ED operation do they have?  Does Sand Springs own the building?


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Nik on July 22, 2008, 09:55:34 am
This would be great. For some odd reason, I bought a house in Prattville. Now I'm desperate to get back to midtown where I grew up.


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Bones013 on July 22, 2008, 11:27:09 am
quote:
Originally posted by Nik

This would be great. For some odd reason, I bought a house in Prattville. Now I'm desperate to get back to midtown where I grew up.



I have talked to several neighbors and they feel the same way.  I know of two families who moved just for that reason.  


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: breitee on July 22, 2008, 01:28:43 pm
SOMETHING needs to be done with the old Wal-Mart, and NOT another Cheapo Depot or Big Lots. Lowe's, Home Depot, Office Depot, Staples, Kohl's or anything decent will do. Also the old Burger King needs a new tenant. Boarded up buildings don't generate any tax revenue. The city "leaders" need to stop the secrecy on these projects.


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Ibanez on July 22, 2008, 02:50:53 pm
quote:
Originally posted by breitee

SOMETHING needs to be done with the old Wal-Mart, and NOT another Cheapo Depot or Big Lots. Lowe's, Home Depot, Office Depot, Staples, Kohl's or anything decent will do. Also the old Burger King needs a new tenant. Boarded up buildings don't generate any tax revenue. The city "leaders" need to stop the secrecy on these projects.



Well your first problem was assuming that the City of Sand Springs had any leaders.

What is has is a fully entrenched good ol boys network.


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: breitee on July 23, 2008, 08:07:53 am
quote:
Originally posted by wavoka

quote:
Originally posted by breitee

SOMETHING needs to be done with the old Wal-Mart, and NOT another Cheapo Depot or Big Lots. Lowe's, Home Depot, Office Depot, Staples, Kohl's or anything decent will do. Also the old Burger King needs a new tenant. Boarded up buildings don't generate any tax revenue. The city "leaders" need to stop the secrecy on these projects.



Well your first problem was assuming that the City of Sand Springs had any leaders.

What is has is a fully entrenched good ol boys network.




Boy, isn't that the truth! Good old boy Walker is only good for announcing football games and Enevoldsen is a highly paid do nothing talking head. They constantly speak of the economic development just over the horizon, but it is sadly all talk. Thank God Calhoun is gone!


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: tulsa_fan on July 23, 2008, 10:27:43 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Bones013

quote:
Originally posted by Nik

This would be great. For some odd reason, I bought a house in Prattville. Now I'm desperate to get back to midtown where I grew up.



I have talked to several neighbors and they feel the same way.  I know of two families who moved just for that reason.  




So I didn't want to be a snob and rub it in, but I am thrilled to say we moved back into Florence Park last week and are beyond ELATED to be out of Prattville (yes, lawsuit with builder over house leaves a bad taste in our mouth . . )  Saturday I hit Harvard Meats for steaks, Collins Liquor for drinks and Sooner Produce for veggies, all within a mile, we've been walking to eat at nearby restaurants, take the kids to the park daily, walking every night, just a real happy camper to be back.  My husband & I have made a pact, never leave midtown again.   I can't say it's all bad Sand Springs fault, but there are several things I don't miss about living there (driving miles and miles for a decent grocery store . . )


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: waterboy on July 24, 2008, 07:46:19 am
Sand Springs/Prattville is still a small town at heart. That is both a blessing and a source of consternation for anyone trying to do stuff there. It reminds me a lot of Broken Arrow back in the early 80's as far as personality. But they are not benefitting from the south Tulsa sprawl that BA had. I had little difficulty working with the SS parks department with my business. It was relaxed and welcoming as opposed to the rest of the metro.

However, the local paper can't write a story correctly and the residents are too busy working and driving to Tulsa to get too involved. Take the problems Tulsa has and multiply by 10. Enevoldsen? Met him at a river planning meeting. I related my positive views of the city and talked about my first hand knowledge of their part of the river and how I might use that to give insight on its development. IOW I volunteered to help. He said he would pass my card to his staff. Never heard from anyone again.


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: buck on July 25, 2008, 08:20:43 pm
I hope your right about something going in there and not Cheapo Depo. One of the worst stores ever.


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Nik on July 30, 2008, 07:43:47 am
So, Roscoe, when will this news be public?


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: breitee on August 18, 2008, 07:45:18 am
quote:
Originally posted by Nik

So, Roscoe, when will this news be public?





Still waiting.................


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Oklahomalady on September 07, 2008, 08:27:43 pm
and wating.....[:P] We're used to waiting in Sand Springs.


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: breitee on October 10, 2008, 03:22:15 pm
............and waiting......................


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: breitee on November 13, 2008, 06:51:24 am
Still waiting Roscoe. What's the deal?


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: breitee on January 16, 2009, 03:13:53 pm
..................AND WAITING..................


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: roscoe on January 21, 2009, 08:16:58 am
Project has been put on hold


Title: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: mrburns918 on January 21, 2009, 12:58:11 pm
Sand Springs will continue to wallow as long as it has the current slack jawed mouth breathers in city council.

I remember a meeting regarding wanting to turn the old Hissom Memorial into a community center. Everyone ranting about how wonderful it would be, even had a contractor there talking about the costs (the estimate he was using was about five years old). I countered the contractor's estimate, the need for at least three other bids from OTHER contractors, the idiocy of putting a community center outside the community of Sand Springs, the upkeep costs which weren't even addressed, etc. etc. and was simply told by a couple of the slack jawed locals that I was an outsider agitator.

I simply responded "I leave you all to yourselves".

Sand Springs has so much potential, too bad the incestous dynamics will never allow it to grow.

Mr. Burns


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: roscoe on January 10, 2011, 02:15:53 pm
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PAUL WALDSCHMIDT/LEADER Contractors pull old fixtures from the ceiling in the former Walmart store in south Sand Springs as part of a remodeling project for a new tenant, Tractor Supply Co. The farm supply company plans to renovate the southern part of the building and should be open by the end of March.
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Posted: Thursday, January 6, 2011 2:57 pm | Updated: 10:43 am, Fri Jan 7, 2011.

By Paul Waldschmidt
Staff Writer
paulw@sandspringsleader.com | 13 comments

Tractor Supply Co. plans to open a store in south Sand Springs in the former Walmart building this spring.

Officials for the farm supply company, based in Brentwood, Tenn., say the remodeling project is expected to take about seven weeks.

“We plan to be open by March 26,” said Will Polisky, project manager for Tractor Supply.

Contractors are already at work remodeling the inside of the building.

According to the City of Sand Springs building permit, the project is valued at $300,000 and will involve approximately 34,000 square feet.

The entire building -- located at 3829 S. State Highway 97 -- is approximately 90,000 square feet.

Tractor Supply will lease the southern part of the building and will use part of the outside area, Polisky said.

“We expect Sand Springs to be a very good market for us,” Polisky said, adding that the chain already has stores in Bristow and Glenpool.

"The new Sand Springs location is attractive due to the part-time and hobby farmers and horse owners in the area," Rob Hoskins, with Tractor Supply media relations, said.

Hoskins said the store plans to employ between 12 to 17 full and part- time team members.

"This is an outstanding announcement for our community, and we are very excited about Tractor Supply locating their store as an anchor in the Springs Village Shopping Center," said Mayor Bob Walker. "This will bring a big boost to a highly visible area along the Highway 97 corridor, and to the business community in south Sand Springs."

Walker predicted Tractor Supply will be “a highly successful business here. The infill of business in a building that has been vacant for several years will benefit tax revenues both for the City and our schools. It's a win-win situation for all of us."

According to its website, Tractor Supply Co. is the largest retail farm and ranch store chain in the United States. The company operates more than 950 retail stores in 40 states and employs more than 13,000 team members. Its stock is traded on the NASDAQ exchange under the symbol “TSCO.”

The company was founded in 1938 as a mail order catalog business offering tractor parts to America’s family farmers. Today Tractor Supply is a leading retailer with revenues surpassing $3 billion.

Tractor Supply stores are primarily located in rural areas and the outlying suburbs of major cities. The typical Tractor Supply store has 15,000-24,000 square feet of inside selling space with a similar amount of outside space used to display agricultural fencing, livestock equipment and horse stalls.

 


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: waterboy on February 02, 2011, 01:55:10 pm
This may not be as much a net gain as the mayor thinks. There is already an Atwoods farm store on the north side of the river. I'm sure that store will show a decrease in taxable sales. The city is not growing that fast and can hardly support two large ranch and farm stores. But beggars can't be choosers I guess.

Sand Springs has the same sort of bifurcation that Bixby has (for the same reason, a river runs through it) only the south half of SS was once Prattville. Having worked in BA back when it was the size of SS, I see some similarity. BA's mayor was a gas station owner/operator back then backed up with a hodge podge set of administrators linked mostly by church and school board affiliation. Rhema was big dog and instrumental in helping them grow.

In SS the "home" is the big dog. If they intend to grow, SS must evolve from a small town kind of leadership and avoid having one side of the river adversely compete with the other. Just my opinion anyway.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: nathanm on February 02, 2011, 02:57:02 pm
If Siloam Springs can support both TSC and Atwoods, I think Sand Springs can do it, too.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: waterboy on February 02, 2011, 03:37:52 pm
Oh, they'll support them both. I doubt either one will fail. But it won't increase the $$ spent on ranch and farm or increase net taxation unless folks are travelling from Prattville to Sapulpa for some odd reason and decide to change patterns. Now the same size city will have two farm stores and a WalMart to find their stuff. Lowes or Home Depot would have been a good fit too.

Still, from a pr perspective its good to have that building filled and perhaps leveraging more nearby sales.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on February 02, 2011, 05:16:40 pm
Is this a discussion of Sand Springs or Tulsa?  I'm getting confused, but I guess it's understandable since they both have the same kind of good ole boys network.  Just a matter of scale.

Sad that people are moving back out.  I spent a lot of time in SS in younger years and their is a certain 'attraction' to the character of the place.  But I can see if you want to live in new/modern suburbia how it might not work out so well.  SS attraction has a lot to do with its 'olderness'. 

Could part of the problem be that people move there for the quaintness/quirkyness/smalltowncharm and then take with them what they are ostensibly moving to get away from??  Like the ones who move to the country on a "farmette"?  Like WalMart and other big box stores?








Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Nik on November 23, 2011, 09:01:58 pm
http://sandspringsleader.com/news/six-months-in-city-manager-lays-out-strategy-for-next/article_cdd150a8-15e7-11e1-af39-001cc4c03286.html

I first heard about this a couple months ago, but they were having issues with the current owner. Hope this moves forward.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Ibanez on November 23, 2011, 10:41:25 pm
That old Wal-Mart isn't large enough to be a Reasor's.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: roscoe on December 05, 2011, 12:06:48 pm
The Tractor Supply would move into the Homeland store.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Townsend on December 20, 2011, 12:16:02 pm
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20111220_11_0_SandSp455754 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20111220_11_0_SandSp455754)

Reasors to open Sand Springs location


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Reasor’s will open a new supermarket in the Prattville area of Sand Springs, the second new location the Tahlequah-based grocer has announced this year.

The 65,000-square foot store will be located at the northeast corner of West 41st Street and Oklahoma 97 at the site of a former Walmart store.

“If all goes as planned, the new store is expected to open for business by late next summer,” said Allen Mills, Reasor’s president and chief strategy officer, in a statement Tuesday.

According to a statement from the company, the new store will include departments for sushi, seafood, fresh meat, produce, bakery, deli, olive bar, specialty foods and a pharmacy in addition to a full-service supermarket.

The store is expected to employ about 200 people.

In September, the company announced a new store in Bixby expected to open sometime in 2012.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20111220_11_0_SandSp455754


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Conan71 on December 20, 2011, 01:24:57 pm
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20111220_11_0_SandSp455754 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20111220_11_0_SandSp455754)

Reasors to open Sand Springs location



One thing Reasor's needs to learn about Prattville though: They need to refer to "sushi" as "bait".


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Red Arrow on December 20, 2011, 01:30:39 pm
One thing Reasor's needs to learn about Prattville though: They need to refer to "sushi" as "bait".

There are several useful things to do with raw fish.
1. Bait
2. Fertilizer
3. Get even with someone by leaving it in their warm car
4. Cook it.
---END---

No, I am not a sushi fan.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Townsend on December 20, 2011, 01:30:58 pm
One thing Reasor's needs to learn about Prattville though: They need to refer to "sushi" as "bait".

I imagine they'll cater to their base.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Ibanez on December 20, 2011, 05:41:02 pm
Isn't that quite a bit smaller than a typical Reasor's?


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: custosnox on December 20, 2011, 06:20:33 pm
There are several useful things to do with raw fish.
1. Bait
2. Fertilizer
3. Get even with someone by leaving it in their warm car
4. Cook it.
---END---

No, I am not a sushi fan.
I love sushi, and Reasor's actually has some of the better sushi that I've come across.  Of course, they do cater to their area.  They don't sell it at the one at 41st and Garnett.  In fact, they act like your nuts if you go in and ask where it's at.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: AquaMan on December 20, 2011, 06:39:35 pm
One thing Reasor's needs to learn about Prattville though: They need to refer to "sushi" as "bait".

Prattville?! So you're an anti-Sand Springite?


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Conan71 on December 20, 2011, 06:41:12 pm
Prattville?! So you're an anti-Sand Springite?

Not at all.  I lived in Prattville briefly.  The folks up on the hill there aren't exactly pinkie in the air sushi types, IMO.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: heironymouspasparagus on December 21, 2011, 08:41:31 am

3. Get even with someone by leaving it in their warm car


Another great way to get someone - go to Walmart, get one of those boxes of fishing worms they sell in sporting goods section.  Place it under the seat of their car - warm is better, hot is spectacular.  I think I would rather have to get rid of the old fish smell.  Have done both - to myself - so am reporting from personal experience.



Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Nik on December 21, 2011, 08:44:41 am
As a resident of Prattville, I am very excited about this. My wife actually emailed Reasor's about this several months ago (early summer) and Jeff Reasor replied that their market research didn't indicate that area could support a Reasor's. Guess that changed.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: BKDotCom on December 21, 2011, 09:28:23 am
For clarification:
There is no city of Prattville (it is unincorporated) / Prattville is simply "South Sand Springs"
"Prattville is within the City of Sand Springs; residents are Sand Springs citizens."


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Townsend on December 21, 2011, 09:33:36 am
For clarification:
There is no city of Prattville (it is unincorporated) / Prattville is simply "South Sand Springs"
"Prattville is within the City of Sand Springs; residents are Sand Springs citizens."

I declare revolution for all Prattvillains.  Rise up my brothers.  Watch the world burn.

Congrats on the new grocery store.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Conan71 on December 21, 2011, 09:38:42 am
I declare revolution for all Prattvillains.  Rise up my brothers.  Watch the world burn.

Congrats on the new grocery store.

"This is a big f*cking deal!"

(http://bigeffingdeal.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/joe-biden-f-bomb-video1.jpg)


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Nik on June 26, 2012, 10:11:33 am
FYI, the new Reasor's in this space opens tomorrow. I got to check it out early on Sunday. Looks pretty nice. Very much looking forward to making it my regular grocery stop.


Title: Re: OLD - WALMART SAND SPRINGS
Post by: Tulsa Zephyr on June 27, 2012, 03:08:28 pm
Checked it out this afternoon.  Outstanding!  So far no 400 lb. behemoths in Spandex, so I'll no longer have to do grocery shopping at the Sand Springs Walmart Supercenter.  "Once again the world is spinning in greased grooves." (John Huston in Cannery Row)