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Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: safetyguy on June 29, 2008, 08:40:38 pm
Saw this ad for a new restaurant that is a part of the Mazzio's Corp. called Oliveto. The ad says that it will be at 91st & Memorial. My guess is next to Panera since they are doing at the location ( just a guess)

Front of House Restaurant Manager Oliveto is an exciting new ìcontemporary Italian' restaurant with a contemporary menu, ambiance and service format. Appetizers, salads, pastas and pizzas feature bold flavors and a fusion of Mediterranean and Southwestern influences. Craft beers, moderately priced wines and specialty drinks combined with Oliveto's service will make the guest experience comfortable and enjoyable. We are seeking a Front of the House Restaurant Manager for our new 91st & Memorial location with successful experience in a full-service casual dining environment. The qualified individual will be responsible for managing the restaurants operations to ensure guest satisfaction, quality work environment, and sales. Additionally, the individual will be instrumental in the development of processes for the first of several corporate owned restaurants. Previous management in Casual Dining with experience in a "from-scratch" kitchen preferred. We Have a Buffet of Opportunities for You! Competitive starting salary 401K with company match (100% vesting) Medical/Dental after 30 days Tuition reimbursement ïHealth club reimbursement Paid Vacation Prescription Plan ..and more! For consideration, please submit your resume by email, fax, mail, or in person to Attention: Staffing #TWO062008 Email: employment@ olivetobistro.com Fax: (918) 641-1206 Oliveto Italian Bistro Attn: Staffing Manager 4441 S. 72nd East Ave. Tulsa, OK 74145


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: sgrizzle on June 29, 2008, 09:17:04 pm
Sounds like they are trying out a new concept. Maybe a step above Zios.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: mrB on June 30, 2008, 03:58:42 pm
quote:

For The Record

By Staff Reports
5/25/2008
Last Modified: 5/25/2008  4:29 AM


Commercial Building Permits

(Listed by owner, tenant or building name. Weekly update lists new commercial construction, expansions and enlargements of more than $50,000. Information is from initial applications and is subject to change. Dollar amount is valuation declared by owner.)

Oliveto Italian Bistro , 8922 S. Memorial Drive, interior alteration, $410,000.




Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Cubs on August 27, 2008, 08:00:19 pm
oh no, not too many restaurants ... we don't like choices


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: jackbristow on August 28, 2008, 10:15:52 am
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by Cubs

oh no, not too many restaurants ... we don't like choices



considering how Owasso is shedding restaurants, I hope you really believe that[}:)]



I ate there last week.  It was really good and I'll go back.  They had way to many staff wandering around, but I figure that's just because it was opening week and they were still working the kinks out and getting everyone trained.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Conan71 on August 28, 2008, 10:31:38 am
quote:
Originally posted by inteller


I'm predicting a great restaurant crash of 2010 because eventually people are going to figure out they can afford high gas if they simply don't drive and eat out all the time.  It is a wonder grocery stores even stay in business.



If it takes that long.

They have been over-building restaurant chains for years now and I think we are almost at market saturation, if not beyond it.  I don't think it's just gas prices, though that does not help.  If you over-build capacity for shopping and dining, there's going to be failure and consolidation.  

One good indicator was seeing Brinker spin off their majority ownership in Macaroni Grill to a third-party equity firm.  I believe they see the writing on the wall and want to minimize overall losses when the inevitable crash happens.

I'm usually very optimistic about the economy.  But a feeding frenzy of development which makes no sense as of yet will result in a load of epic fail.



Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: nathanm on August 29, 2008, 05:30:42 pm
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

AWESOME!  Cause we know Tulsa doesn't have ENOUGH restaurants!  

I'm predicting a great restaurant crash of 2010 because eventually people are going to figure out they can afford high gas if they simply don't drive and eat out all the time.  It is a wonder grocery stores even stay in business.

Oh and speaking of the two, Fresh Berry gets their fruit from Wal-Mart.  Saw an employee checking out with crates of stuff.  What a ripoff.

If this is in the same strip as Panera then almost everything on that corner will be a restaurant.  Panera, Backyard Burger, Mcds, Brook, Billy Sims....do we really need more?  Then just across the street you have Sonic, Cicis, and Mcalesters. I think I could let the supposed diversity slide if they actually made that area walkable....but for the life of me I can't think of a single sidewalk in that area to any of the neighboring subdivisions.



I like having lots of choice within easy biking distance. (He writes as he prepares to leave for a 30 mile gasoline-powered roundtrip to eat somewhere far away)

It is a little much having Panera and McAlisters across the street from each other, though. And you forgot Subway, which I'm surprised is still there.. [:P]


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: oasis812005 on September 01, 2008, 05:16:06 pm
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

an italian restaurant (I dont car if they say they are a bistro) that doesn't serve you bread when you sit down it a major failure in my book.  Oliveto is like saying "wow, Panera isn't expensive enough for me, I need to go spend MORE on bread and pasta".



Tell their corporate office. Its a new concept so I'm sure they'll make a few changes.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Townsend on September 02, 2008, 04:10:56 pm

Free bread...free bread makes a place for you.

You must be a treat for any service person.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: joiei on September 02, 2008, 08:38:45 pm
So Inteller will not be hanging out at Oliveto, that means we can get in.  Lets go.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Townsend on September 03, 2008, 10:32:21 am
quote:
Originally posted by inteller


do you expect chips and salsa when you sit down at a mexican place?  no, don't even answer that, you'll just lie and make yourself look stupid.



Your flacid attempts at name calling.

It's mind blowing how much of a lonely, hated, complaint filled life you have.

The "oh crap, that little nothing just walked into the room.  Wonder what he'll hate this time." you hear when you enter a place must be heart breaking for a friendless worm.

Anyway, always nice to see new places to eat.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Kashmir on September 04, 2008, 11:39:42 am
Geez, inteller, I sincerely hope you didn't ***** and moan the entire time and make your dinner guests miserable![;)]


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Townsend on September 05, 2008, 09:04:09 am
quote:
Originally posted by inteller
spoken like a truely bitter, overpaid, server.

you probably think people should tip no less than 20%, regardless of service.



Nope, just remember your type.

Always angry no matter the job the server does.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: ARGUS on September 08, 2008, 10:12:40 am
I ate there Thursday night.......good tasty food, kind quick service.
I would go back anytime. I had a wood fired brick oven Pesto pizza..mmmm good. Prices seem right.
My DATE and I had drinks (several each) appetizer 2 entrees and desert....less than $50 smackers.
Nice looking room.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Townsend on September 08, 2008, 10:38:46 am
quote:
Originally posted by ARGUS

I ate there Thursday night.......good tasty food, kind quick service.
I would go back anytime. I had a wood fired brick oven Pesto pizza..mmmm good. Prices seem right.
My DATE and I had drinks (several each) appetizer 2 entrees and desert....less than $50 smackers.
Nice looking room.




But but but...no free bread?  (Shudder)

Glad to hear you don't believe the lack of free bread constitutes concept failure.

(edited double negative)


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: joiei on September 08, 2008, 11:08:45 am
One day all the "Free Bread" crowd will realize that it ain't free, the cost of all that free bread is built into the price of the menu items.  By not giving away free bread the restaurant is able to lower their prices just a bit.  If they suffer going into bread withdrawal then stop being so darn cheap and buy a loaf and have at it.  Makes me wonder if the free bread crowd also still tips a nickel for a dollar cup of coffee.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: joiei on September 08, 2008, 09:13:23 pm
To think your scoring cheaper food means only one thing,  YOU ARE GETTINg CHEAPER FOOD.  It is all about food costs.  If your food costs are out of line then you go out of business.  So you go somewhere with cheaper food that serves "free bread" that you are really paying for only means that the costs of the food are Cheaper than the other place.  Dude, I have worked in many restaurants for a long time.  You get what you pay for.  The less you pay the less the food value.  Why do you think some of those places fill the plate with french fries or heavily breaded meats and lots of gravy or a big ole pile of mashed potatos?  The expensive part of the meal is the meat and the lesser the quality of the meat the more they can put on the plate at a lesser price.  Meat can be tenderized.  Those restaurants are not giving anything away just to cozy up to you and get you to come back.  You are not going to get a plate with a food cost of 50%, if you do that place isn't going to be around very long.  

Back to "free bread".  If you think you are getting free bread I hate to burst your bubble, it isn't free, YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT.  It is figured into the cost of the food you have ordered.  The same with chips and salsa.  I have priced out too many menus that have had to include the costs of the bread and the butter.  It you don't believe me then you are welcome to go on believing in your delusion.  "Free the Bread" I think I have grown tired of this discussion with someone who has no idea of what they are talking about.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: McParty on September 15, 2008, 08:06:41 am
The wife and I ate there on Friday night. It was pretty good, I was surprised. Plenty of food for the money. And no, I don't go out to eat for the free bread or chips and salsa. As for Italian Restaurants in Tulsa, right now I would say it is one of the best. Beats ZIO's, that's for sure. Their prices keep going up and you get less food. They've been going down hill ever since they sold them to a some national chain, and please don't bring up Olive Garden, just bad Italian food. They can't survive in places with any sort of Italian population because it's so bad, I can (and do) make better at home.
And please...stop complaining about so many restaurants... it's because you live in Tulsa. This is one of THE MAIN test market cities in the United States. Every Corporate enitity that is in the food business opens something here! The best thing to do is support the locally owned businesses!

There will always be whiners though, and just like when I was a Bartender, you serve them and wait for them to leave.



Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: sgrizzle on September 15, 2008, 08:25:02 am
Anyone seen "superbad?"

McParty... I love that name.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: TheArtist on September 15, 2008, 12:01:31 pm
They gonna open one in mid-town? I am not going all the way out suburban hell to try a new place.






Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Shaneous on September 25, 2008, 03:50:15 pm
We tried this place last night and thought it was dreadful tasting. No flavor at all. The waitstaff and management were good and the decor was decent but the food(the reason I eat at a place like that) was terrible. Three tables around us also felt that way as they were barely eating their food and picking at it slowly. I gave the waitress a decent tip and she tried real hard to get us to come back.

The value is good but the food is crap.

 My 2 cents.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: zstyles on September 26, 2008, 08:53:19 am
quote:
Originally posted by Shaneous

We tried this place last night and thought it was dreadful tasting. No flavor at all. The waitstaff and management were good and the decor was decent but the food(the reason I eat at a place like that) was terrible. Three tables around us also felt that way as they were barely eating their food and picking at it slowly. I gave the waitress a decent tip and she tried real hard to get us to come back.

The value is good but the food is crap.

 My 2 cents.



I sense a pile of horse crap in this post.."three people are you felt the same way"...you got that from them picking at their food??

I don't know about you but I never see people "picking at their food" did they order the same thing as you? I think you are someone who owns another restaurant and are not happy about their opening...


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: ARGUS on September 27, 2008, 10:27:26 am
I referred a gentleman to this place several weeks ago..he told me yesterday he has been back twice making three visits total...he has thanked me each time (3x)that the place was GREAT!
 Yesterday he said his son had a dish that was not terrific, the server noticed and the manger came over asked about the problem offered another entee adjusted the bill apologized sent a free dessert and assured them the management would know.
Yeah naysayers this sounds like a terrible joint.
Im a jerk and and eat alot and I know my dining experience there was good enough that I look forward to going back...the woodfired pizza is very good.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: sgrizzle on September 27, 2008, 02:28:26 pm
Mazzios is known for experimenting I'm sure Oliveto will get shelved along with Pizzeti's, Mazzio's Grill, etc. They could just convert it to a Zio's.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: hello on September 27, 2008, 03:46:36 pm
Mazzio's and Zio's are not owned by the same company anymore.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: ARGUS on September 28, 2008, 10:18:49 am
Inteller, I am calling you out..............name a positive thing about anything from Tulsa you have posted about.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: ARGUS on October 01, 2008, 10:04:01 pm
uuuuuuh...Okay. You win; I agree.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Shaneous on October 03, 2008, 10:25:38 am
zstyles,
I wish I owned a restaurant but I do not. I'm just a worker bee for corporate america like most people. Perhaps it was just an off night who knows.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: zstyles on October 23, 2008, 11:00:58 am
http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/content/2008/videos/olivetobistro.aspx

Video....looks good...


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: EJ on February 12, 2009, 10:34:34 am
I met a few friends at Oliveto Italian Bistro's bar last night, Wednesday Feb 11, for Happy Hour. They have great deals on an impressive variety of beers. My favorite were the local beers; Marshal and Choc.  Very cool bar BTW. Several huge flat screens, granite, cool decor, etc. Their $6.00 Happy Hour pizza special from 3-6 is enough to go back any day. The pizzas were fantastic. So good I took several home to my family. Very authentic artisan pizza crust and unique toppings. The best pizza that I have found in Tulsa.

Other than that, the rest of the dinning room looks very comfortable and inviting. Our server really knew his stuff and was very nice. The view of the kitchen is very interesting, if you're into that sort of thing which I am. You can see everyone doing their thing and really getting after it.

I'm taking my wife their for our Valentine's dinner date. If the other entrees are as good as the pizza I'm sure we won't be disappointed. I can't wait to try the wine list out. Great looking prices, just like their menu.


http://olivetobistro.com


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Townsend on February 12, 2009, 11:22:02 am
^^^Wow...obvious much?^^^


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: hello on February 12, 2009, 09:30:02 pm
lmao. seriously.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: joiei on February 13, 2009, 07:36:41 am
Hi EJ and welcome to Tulsanow.  Your review is just a little too over the top.  We have seen others write a posting very similar to yours for other establishments.   At least you didn't slam other restaurants trying to drum up business for your place.  Basically, what you have posted is spam.  If the review is too glowing then we regulars here have reason to be suspect.  And we are suspect.  Maybe the next time I am that far south I might check it out from other comments posted on this thread but your posting does not make me want to run on down anytime soon.  Good try though.  

And Intellers post, he is starting to lighten up and be nice in his postings.  God bless him, he really means well.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Gaspar on February 13, 2009, 08:38:56 am
Come on guys, give Oliveto's a chance.  It's another Mazzio's endeavor, and I've had the food.  All I can say is that it's as good as Zio's, and I like Zio's.

That said, there is not much of a market in tulsa any more for "Fast Italian" served in a casual atmosphere.  Simply too many similar quality offerings that feed off of the bottom of that market.  Tulsa also has many very good authentic Italian offerings that pull off of the top of that market.  This leaves very little room for another restaurant of this type to capture market share.

If the concept was smaller and located in a smaller market, or in markets without an Olive Garden/Zio's type offering, I think it would be a success.  Had they pushed it a few miles south into Bixby they would probably be in a better position, but 91st and Memorial is a difficult transition area.  The demographics are strong, but there is no destination anchor at that intersection, and the destination anchors to the north and south naturally pull people away from that intersection.

Looking at my Catosphere maps, this concept would be prime for Sand Springs.

That's my 2 1/2 cents.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: sgrizzle on February 13, 2009, 08:55:40 am
It's not fast enough Italian.. where's drive-through italian? I wanna eat lasagna in my lap while driving down the BA and texting...


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Gaspar on February 13, 2009, 09:22:12 am
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

It's not fast enough Italian.. where's drive-through italian? I wanna eat lasagna in my lap while driving down the BA and texting...



Actually, Yes there is.  I think it's called Fazzoli's up Northeast.

Nothing like a hot meatball rolling around on the floorboard of your car.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: joiei on February 13, 2009, 12:06:04 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Gaspar

Come on guys, give Oliveto's a chance.  It's another Mazzio's endeavor, and I've had the food.  All I can say is that it's as good as Zio's, and I like Zio's.

That said, there is not much of a market in tulsa any more for "Fast Italian" served in a casual atmosphere.  Simply too many similar quality offerings that feed off of the bottom of that market.  Tulsa also has many very good authentic Italian offerings that pull off of the top of that market.  This leaves very little room for another restaurant of this type to capture market share.

If the concept was smaller and located in a smaller market, or in markets without an Olive Garden/Zio's type offering, I think it would be a success.  Had they pushed it a few miles south into Bixby they would probably be in a better position, but 91st and Memorial is a difficult transition area.  The demographics are strong, but there is no destination anchor at that intersection, and the destination anchors to the north and south naturally pull people away from that intersection.

Looking at my Catosphere maps, this concept would be prime for Sand Springs.

That's my 2 1/2 cents.

I have no problems with Olivetos.  I have never been there so I have no opinion on whether it is good or not.  The posting by EJ was so much like schilling.  Remember what's her name and her posts about Oscars?  I still go to Oscars inspite of the posting.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: wordherder on February 16, 2009, 02:49:59 pm
Shilling or no, I hear there's another Oliveto's going up in Broken Arrow near the 71st and BA area.

Guess they've done well enough with the first restaurant to try another one.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: joiei on February 16, 2009, 05:27:12 pm
quote:
Originally posted by wordherder

Shilling or no, I hear there's another Oliveto's going up in Broken Arrow near the 71st and BA area.

Guess they've done well enough with the first restaurant to try another one.

It is heartening to hear that a company is doing well enough to think about expanding.


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: EJ on February 19, 2009, 01:35:42 pm
LOL, that was funny. Okay, I don't work for Oliveto but I am friends with the family who owns it. That being said, I stand behind my comments. I thought the place did a great job and earned a thorough review so that it what I gave it. I probably did go over the top as I wrote the review as just that, as a review, and not as a post which is what you guys are probably used to here. I'll tone it down in the future.

As for you inteller, Oliveto does offer free bread. They just don't dump loaves of it on every table before you even get your water. All you have to do is ask for it. So get your facts straight. And yes, I'll take your $50 gift card any day.

For everyone else, the place has been open for about 6 months now. So they should be much improved on any short comings that you may have come across in it's early days.

You guys have some good info on other local Tulsa restaurants on this site. I'm looking forward to checking out some of your recommendations - Mr Tacos and Cancun are on my list. Thanks


Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Hawkins on February 28, 2009, 03:20:43 am
The prices here are low. Very surprised at the value.

"Milk Shots" with the cookie-cake desert were a nice touch.

Olive Garden has better salad and unlimited free breadsticks, but this new place is cheaper, and not that bad at all!



Title: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: EJ on February 28, 2009, 09:52:03 am
quote:
Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by EJ


 So they should be much improved on any short comings that you may have come across in it's early days.





oh really, so the inability of a hostess to simply find a clean booth directly behind her 3 weeks ago is an improvement?[}:)]





September 2008 was 3 weeks ago? You're just a novelty that this site offers right? You can't be for real.


Title: Re: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Gold on March 04, 2009, 01:27:27 pm
no, three weeks ago was three weeks ago.....damn dude you are a like a turd that won't flush.

Pot . . . kettle . . .

Really nice discourse, there!  You're such a nice guy!


Title: Re: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Gaspar on March 09, 2009, 05:50:56 am
I noticed this weekend that Oliveto's was empty at around noon, and directly across the street there was a line flowing out the door of the CiCi's pizza.  Literally around the corner of the building.

I guess in Tulsa, when it comes to Italian food, nothing beats macaroni & cheese pizza! :D




Title: Re: Oliveto Restaurant-91st and Memorial
Post by: Hoss on March 09, 2009, 11:58:25 am
I noticed this weekend that Oliveto's was empty at around noon, and directly across the street there was a line flowing out the door of the CiCi's pizza.  Literally around the corner of the building.

I guess in Tulsa, when it comes to Italian food, nothing beats macaroni & cheese pizza! :D




While I'm not a huge fan of Cici's, their barbeque pizza is best in town.  As far as barbeque pizzas go, that is.  I think Pizza Hut makes one too.   ;D

But if I want something along those lines (pizza), I'll go to Napoli's and get the stromboli.  Big as Popeye's forearm, for sure.