State of Alabama is in disbelief. Roveco and Bushco finally get tagged! Our government has been saved for the moment! Fairness is the lynch pin of our Judicial system!
"Siegelman has maintained that certain Republicans targeted him after he was elected governor in 1998 in an attempt to derail his political career."
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Siegelman-Release.html?scp=2&sq=Siegelman&st=nyt
"critics, including a group of former state attorneys general, have called for an independent review and said the case raises questions. "
There will be a never ending frenzy to destroy Obama in order to get a pardon for all in Shrub's administration. McCain is the only hope to protect what's transpired in the Justice Department the last 7 years. It's great this will be news after 1/19/08 and we can see the truth about Rove, Myers, and Gonzo and their "undies" unfold with no cover left.
There's an old Chinese proverb along the lines of: "If you sit amongst smelly people, eventually you shall be smelly too." or some such thing.
Lesson to be learned is: be careful of the associates you keep. HealthSouth was pay-to-play on both ends. Scrushy is one of the most corrupt healthcare administrators in the country. If you wanted HealthSouth's business as a vendor, you paid dearly for it. They've spread a lot of money around in government to experience the growth in revenue they got via changes in medicare coverage.
Scrushy's dirty and he's made a fortune off the back of the taxpayer.
Siegelman's prosecution could have just as much been a result of the local U.S. atty being pissed off they didn't get a conviction of Scrushy on the HealthSouth book-cooking scheme. Siegelman would have done well to avoid a close relationship with Scrushy or HealthSouth.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/washington/28cnd-siegelman.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1206810906-In+RTFLmF7HeVJp8zZX0wg
"His fingerprints are smeared all over the case," Mr. Siegelman said, a day after a federal appeals court ordered him released on bond and said there were legitimate questions about his case."
I hope this breaks it wide open.
If it's proven Rove is complicit he'll probably get his own TV show.
Rove broke our government and our judicial system for political purposes that went beyond the pale. Time for payback soon approaching.
This story is gonna get big!
Why is the GOP Concerned About Donald Siegelman?
http://allspinzone.com/wp/2008/03/28/why-is-the-gop-concerned-about-donald-siegelman/
Let's hope he prevails. It'll be interesting to see what happens in DC when he testifies.
This story has no traction except with conspiracists in the blogosphere who have wet dreams thinking of Rove getting sacked.
"All Spin Zone". Where do you find this ****?
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Originally posted by Conan71
This story has no traction except with conspiracists in the blogosphere who have wet dreams thinking of Rove getting sacked.
"All Spin Zone". Where do you find this ****?
Wow Conan, what a shame you hate our constitution.
Slow down Conyers. This has got to play out slowly so Dumbya can't mess around with a pardon.
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200805200001
"The Siegelman saga gains momentum while the GOP disintegrates, and Karl Rove continues to harvest media kudos as a masterful political tactician.
Which one of those three just doesn't belong?"
http://www.bradblog.com/Docs/RoveSubpoenaed_LettertoBobLuskin_052208.pdf
http://www.bradblog.com/Docs/RoveSubpoenaed_SubpoenatoKarlRove_052208.pdf
http://www.bradblog.com/Docs/RoveSubpoenaed_LetterFromBobLuskin_052108.pdf
http://www.bradblog.com/Docs/ResponsetoReportReferralfromOPR_Siegelman_050508.pdf
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6008
Lesson learned from Scooter Libby when testifying:
"I don't recall".
It's really pretty simple.
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Originally posted by Conan71
Lesson learned from Scooter Libby when testifying:
"I don't recall".
It's really pretty simple.
I don't remember that?
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) said that the House Judiciary Committee would be willing to arrest Karl Rove if the former White House official doesn't testify about his role in the firing of nine U.S. attorneys in 2006.
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2008/05/28/wasserman-schultz-judiciary-committee-willing-to-arrest-rove-if-he-doesnt-testify/
"Well, if that's what it takes," she said. "I mean we really cannot allow the co-equal branch of government, the legislative branch, to be trampled upon by the executive branch. The founding fathers established three branches of government. We are a co-equal branch, and this is an administration that essentially has ignored and disrespected the role of the legislative branch for far too long."
Lock the Turd Blossom up!!
Rove in handcuffs is serious pornography to FOTD.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/02/opinion/02mon1.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Mr. Rove Talks, but Doesn't Answer
Published: June 2, 2008
In a recent appearance on "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," Karl Rove was asked if he had a role in the Justice Department's decision to prosecute Don Siegelman. The former Democratic governor of Alabama was convicted and sentenced to more than seven years, quite possibly for political reasons, and there is evidence that Mr. Rove may have been pulling the strings.
Additional commentary, background information and other items by Times editorial writers.
Mr. Rove, who has traded in his White House job for that of talking head, talked a lot but didn't answer the question. He also did not directly deny being involved. The House Judiciary Committee has subpoenaed him to testify. It should do everything in its power to see that he does and that he answers all of its questions.
Mr. Siegelman — who began serving his sentence before being freed on appeal — was convicted on corruption charges that appear to be flimsy, and his supporters have long insisted that he was prosecuted for partisan reasons. Until his indictment, he was the Democrats' best chance of taking back the Alabama governorship.
After Mr. Siegelman's conviction, Dana Jill Simpson, a Republican lawyer, swore in an affidavit that she had heard another G.O.P. political operative, Bill Canary, boast in a phone call that his wife would "take care" of Mr. Siegelman and that Mr. Rove was involved in the planning. Mr. Canary's wife is Leura Canary, the United States attorney for Montgomery, and her office prosecuted Mr. Siegelman.
The House Judiciary Committee has prepared a report on the Siegelman case, and several other questionable prosecutions. Ms. Simpson told the committee staff under oath that Rob Riley — the son of Alabama's Republican governor, Bob Riley — told her that his father and Mr. Canary discussed the Siegelman case with Mr. Rove. She said the younger Mr. Riley also told her that Mr. Rove had spoken to the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section about getting Mr. Siegelman indicted.
If these charges are true, they suggest that the justice system was turned into a partisan tool, and that Mr. Siegelman's freedom may have been taken away because of his political allegiances.
Mr. Rove has already defied a Senate subpoena on the issue of politicized prosecutions, claiming executive privilege, and he seems intent on defying the House's subpoena. His claim of executive privilege is not only weak; it is shamefully cynical.
If he was drumming up political prosecutions in the Justice Department, and talking about it with operatives in Alabama, those conversations are not privileged. And if there is any privilege to be protected — such as a conversation with the president that did not involve illegality — he would still need to show up in Congress and plead the privilege to specific questions.
It is time for Michael Mukasey, the attorney general, to stand up for justice by enforcing Congress's subpoenas. If he will not do that, Congress must ensure that its investigative authority is not thwarted.
Mr. Rove seems willing to talk about this case everywhere except where he is required to: in Congress, in public, under oath. The American people, and Mr. Siegelman, are counting on Congress to find out the truth.
Hopefully, Rove will end up where he belongs in the end....purgatory.
Will the congress have the balls to send Rove and/or Mukasey http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/waxman-threatens-mukasey-with-contempt-citation-2008-07-08.html to the dungeon?
http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/sielgelman-on-rove
If the democrats had pulled these type of shenanigans that discount the checks and balance of our country, they'd be sent to the capitol hill jail. Come to think of it, maybe Mr. Rove would show some compliance if he spent time in the slammer. Prohibit the executive privilege to pilfer our constitution.
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.epluribusmedia.net/sielgelman-on-rove
If the democrats had pulled these type of shenanigans that discount the checks and balance of our country, they'd be sent to the capitol hill jail.
Nah! The Democrats are far more experienced at shenanigans and less likely to get caught.
I have a few questions about all this stink over the firing of U.S. Attorneys.
Didn't Slick Willey come in and clean house on all of them when he entered the White House? I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Don't U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President of the United States? Again, please correct me if I'm wrong here.
If I'm correct on one or both of these items, doesn't that pretty much make this a wet dream, witch hunt of the left wingnuts?
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Originally posted by Crash Daily
I have a few questions about all this stink over the firing of U.S. Attorneys.
Didn't Slick Willey come in and clean house on all of them when he entered the White House? I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Don't U.S. Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President of the United States? Again, please correct me if I'm wrong here.
If I'm correct on one or both of these items, doesn't that pretty much make this a wet dream, witch hunt of the left wingnuts?
"Donald Siegelman has been freed from jail. As many know, Siegelman was Governor of Alabama and was prosecuted for giving a position on a Board in the state to a major contributor, Richard Scrushy. I suppose if we were doing a tit for tat thing, that would mean every major contributor President Bush appointed to Ambassadorships is up for investigation, but that's not how the US DOJ was working under President Bush and Alberto Gonzales. Nope,
they prosecuted only Democrats for that sort of thing, even when Senior preosecutors in their office counseled otherwise. Scott Horton in Harpers, over a year ago, noted, basically, that miscarriage of justice should be seen as obstruction of justice on the part of the Bush appointed US Attorneys. "
You might read the links and then comment. That way you won't appear like such a maven.
This case is far different than Presidential pleasures.
Tyranny is the Conservative's revenge for having been left out of the 60's .
I know all about it. It's a witch hunt. You want to go after criminals, go after the Clinton Admin or any Dem Admin that will appear in the future. Bush skirts gray lines but the Clintons flat out crossed them. It's election year politics and won't amount to a hill of beans.
I don't care for B1 or 2 much myself, but I know irrational, angry Liberals when I see them, lashing out for revenge, creating legal turmoil and trying to throw as many people in jail as they can possibly silence and get revenge on. (Communist flag waving in the wind)
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Originally posted by Crash Daily
I know all about it. It's a witch hunt. You want to go after criminals, go after the Clinton Admin or any Dem Admin that will appear in the future. Bush skirts gray lines but the Clintons flat out crossed them. It's election year politics and won't amount to a hill of beans.
I don't care for B1 or 2 much myself, but I know irrational, angry Liberals when I see them, lashing out for revenge, creating legal turmoil and trying to throw as many people in jail as they can possibly silence and get revenge on. (Communist flag waving in the wind)
Gawd I hate quoting Brunnofibber: "sniff sniff"
CD, you're not his sock puppy. Maybe IPLaw's since his mysterious disappearance.
"What Rove's actually doing is breaking the law. Now it's incumbent on the full Judiciary Committee and ultimately House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to decide whether to pursue contempt charges and what beyond that. If there's much more delay -- well, eventually, you've gotta wonder: Whose contempt is greater? Rove's -- for the whole ball of wax we used to call a Constitution. Or Congress's? "
The F Word: Why isn't Rove in Jail?
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/notion/336977/the_f_word_why_isn_t_rove_in_jail
Will Pelosi have the spine to do what's right by the law?
When you don't believe in karma, you are willing to do all kinds of evil things. Rove is headed toward some excruciatingly, painful lifetimes.
Scary Politics in Alabama: How the GOP Framed Gov. Don Siegelman
http://www.alternet.org/democracy/92158/?ses=872d984a688a9f461cdcbcfaf1bbe608
"According to Simpson's affidavit, Siegelman had conceded the election and did not push for a recount because Riley's team had threatened him with prosecution if he did not withdraw from the race."
"Rove had spoken with the Department of Justice" about "pursuing" Siegelman and had also advised Riley's staff "not to worry about Don Siegelman" because "'his girls' would take care of" the governor.
The "girls" allegedly referenced by Bill Canary were his wife, Leura, and Alice Martin, another 2001 Bush appointee as the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama. Simpson added that she was told by Rob Riley that Judge Mark Fuller was deliberately chosen when the Siegelman case was prosecuted in 2005, and that Fuller would "hang" Siegelman.
Before Simpson testified before the House Judiciary Committee, her house was burned down and her car was run off the road. Simpson was not the only one to have had experienced such bizarre misfortune. Dana Siegelman, Don Siegelman's daughter, said that her family's home was twice broken into during the trial and that Siegelman's attorney had had his office broken into as well.
In the end, what then are we to make of the Alabama election of 2002 and its aftermath, during which not only did Don Siegelman lose, but so did those of us who believe in the rule of law, the Constitution, fair elections, and a Justice System above politics? Is this the type of story you expect to read about in the United States of America?"
Quit trying to convict Rove from Alternet.
I know it's your personal wet dream, but...
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Originally posted by Conan71
Quit trying to convict Rove from Alternet.
I know it's your personal wet dream, but...
Not wet.....
Justice must be served. You could care less?
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Originally posted by Conan71
Quit trying to convict Rove from Alternet.
I know it's your personal wet dream, but...
This guy Rove has done major damage to our country.
I would not expect you to see that fact.
Here(unalternetted):
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ohio-Attorney-Files-Motion-by-steveheller-080718-804.html
Headlined on 7/18/08:
GOP whistleblower names Karl Rove in Ohio's 04 election theft
This case has the potential to put some of the most powerful people in the country in jail, according to Arnebeck, as he was joined by a well-respected, life-long Republican computer security expert who charged that the red flags seen during Ohio's 2004 Presidential Election would have been cause for "a fraud investigation in a bank, but it doesn't when it comes to our vote."
"This entire system is being programmed in secret by programmers who have no oversight by anybody," the expert charged, as Arnebeck detailed allegations of complicity by a number of powerful GOP operatives and companies who had unique access both to the election results as reported in 2004, as well as to U.S. House and Senate computer networks even today."
"One of the more delightful and interesting quotes comes from Arnebeck, concerning what he expects to discover as the stay is lifted: "[W]e anticipate Mr. Rove will be identified as having engaged in a corrupt, ongoing pattern of corrupt activities specifically affecting the situation here in Ohio."
Conan.....answer my question....are you patriotic or just a Creepublican?
No I'm skeptical of moonbat websites with conspiracy articles like the one on the Ohio voting machines. It makes you sound as gullible as altruism suffers.
The whole Rove case is hearsay. Dems hate the guy because he's been one hell of a strategist and help get them to power and keep them there.
Sieglman, if he were wrongfully prosecuted, and they have incontrovertable evidence beyond hearsay from party operatives, by all means go after him.
So far I've not read much more interesting about the case. I'm waiting for the smoking gun which will turn Rove into a prison whore.
Siegelman shouldn't have been so tight with Scrushy. Scrushy is a dirtbag of the highest order who has made a fortune off taxpayers.
I'm all for protecting the consitution and others rights. Like I said if Rove is guilty, let the animals have their way with him in prison.
Pressure Builds to Send Karl Rove to Jail
by Johanna Neuman
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/23/10555/
Do you know the difference between NEWS and OPINION?????
"With the House Judiciary Committee planning a hearing Friday on the Bush administration's use of executive privilege, public pressure is building to urge the committee to jail Karl Rove, the Bush White House political maestro.
A coalition of organizations gathered 80,000 signatures on a petition calling on the committee to hold Rove in contempt for his refusal to obey its subpoena. Brave News Films, author of an earlier Internet effort to kick Joseph Lieberman out of the Democratic Party after his endorsement of Republican John McCain, released its petition, Send Karl Rove to Jail, in hopes of compelling Rove"
Look, let Alabama go after Rove. We don't need anymore circlejerk Congressional investigations of Presidential henchmen, since they can't seem to make anything stick on Bush. Democrats are pissed, Repiglicans got Clinton impeached, Democrats got Scooter Libby and now Rove.
There's far more pressing issues for the rest of us than for Congress to please 80,000 piss mops who are bent on tarnishing Bush's legacy. His legacy is already ****ed anyhow. Is Rove the extra point?
Let's move on. Let the DOJ send a nice long scope up Rove's donkey after the new President takes office. What's the damn hurry?
No hurry. I hope this drags out so bush can't pardon the fat turd blossom.[}:)]
http://www.iowapolitics.com/index.iml?Article=132059
Des Moines Catholic Worker: Second Arrest Attempt On Karl Rove In Iowa Leads To 4 Arrests
Date: July 25, 2008
Release: Immediately
Contacts:
Mona Shaw MonaShaw@aol.com
Kirk Brown kbmw36@yahoo.com
Chet Guinn CLGuinn@mchsi.com
Frank Cordaro frank.cordaro@gmail.com
Phillip Berrigan Catholic Worker House
713 Indiana Avenue, Des Moines, IA 50314
515-282-4781
www.DesMoinesCatholicWorker.org
SECOND ARREST ATTEMPT ON KARL ROVE IN IOWA LEADS TO 4 ARRESTS
"Four Iowans were arrested today while attempting to make a Citizens' Arrest of Karl Rove in Des Moines, Iowa. Citing Iowa Code provisions for making Citizen's Arrests as well as citing Federal Statute violations they claimed Rove had violated, the four were stopped at the gate of the Wakonda Country Club in Des Moines where Rove was scheduled to speak at a Republican Fundraiser.
The four arrested were retired Methodist minister and Peace and Justice Advocate, Rev. Chet Guinn, 80, as well as three Des Moines Catholic Workers, Edward Bloomer, 61, Kirk Brown, 25, and Mona Shaw, 57. All four were cited for trespassing and released.
The four maintained that they were acting within the guidelines of Iowa Code that obligate private citizens to make such an arrest if they believe a felony has been committed and turn Rove over to police officials to bring Rove before a judge for formal indictment. By law, a federal judge should consider the charges and determine if an indictment should be made.
Brown and Shaw made a similar attempt last March when Rove spoke at the University of Iowa, Iowa City. Brown and Shaw were arrested and released without charges following that attempt. Deaths in the Middle East since the March attempt number in the thousands including, 151 more US troops have been killed in Iraq, and 284 killed in Afghanistan as well as far more citizens of those two nations.
Rove remains unindicted and recently refused to cooperate with a Congressional subpoena in the Valerie Plame leak investigation. Despite mounting evidence of Rove's wrongdoing concerning leading the U.S. to war as well as other actions, Congress and the U.S. judicial system remain reluctant to bring charges against either Rove or the Bush administration. Recent evidence includes Articles of Impeachment that will again be presented by Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich tomorrow. Vincent Bugliosi's new book "The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder" carefully lays out a case against Bush and his administration for war crimes and felony murder. Bugliosi was prosecutor for the Charles Manson Family murders and author of the book "Helter Skelter," which dealt with that crime.
To date there have been 4125 US Military deaths in Iraq, 896 in Afghanistan, 66,775 casualties (wounded as well as those removed for other injuries and illnesses), and more than 200,000 Iraqi and Afghani citizens killed and many, many more wounded."
Kudos to the patriotic citzens who tried to arrest the creep.
"citizens arrest, citizens arrest...." Gomer Pyle
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jdnbnHmNAmJMxukSVdkZi8KV5gSgD99A1CF81
Former Bush White House official Karl Rove was questioned (for 8 hours) by House Judiciary Committee lawyers Tuesday on any role he may have played in politically motivated firings of U.S. attorneys. An agreement called for Rove to testify "under the penalty for perjury," which is a way Rove's lawyer can claim that he did not technically testify under oath.
They should have done the same for President Clinton!
Rove's answers to the Siegelman queries the way he answers all queries; he lies.
How Rove Said He'd Answer Siegelman Prosecution Queries
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0907/S00144.htm
"It started when Karl Rove's bag man, I call him, [disgraced lobbyist] Jack Abramoff, started putting Indian casino money into Alabama to defeat me in 1998," Siegelman told the newspaper. "Shortly after I endorsed Al Gore in 1999, Karl Rove's client, the attorney general of Alabama (Bill Pryor) started an investigation.
"In 2001, Karl Rove's business associate and political partner's wife, Leura Canary, became a US Attorney and started a federal investigation.... It started with the attorney general and the state investigation, followed by the federal investigation, followed by indictments in 2004, and then another series of indictments leading up to the 2006 election ... but, yeah, it's all part of the same case."
In March when a US Appeals Court upheld many of the corruption charges against Siegelman, Rove once again directed his supporters to the documents on his web site containing his answers to Smith's questions about the matter.
"Honoring the President's executive privilege and acting with White House approval, Karl Rove responded to Judiciary Committee questions about the prosecution of former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman," Rove wrote.
Conyers did not respond to requests for comment Wednesday.
When his panel reached an agreement with Rove on March 5, Conyers said, "I am determined to have it known whether US attorneys in the Department of Justice were fired for improper political reasons, and if so, by whom."
In a statement released to NBC News Tuesday Luskin said, "The agreement setting up the interviews contemplated that they would remain entirely confidential until all the interviews were complete. Out of respect for that term of the agreement, Mr. Rove is not commenting."
These are pre-emptive lies, given stature by a Republican on the Conyers committee, in order to "taint the jury". This little weasel needs to swing (after a fair and public trial, of course).
This will not die....until Rove gets convicted.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7313
By Brad Friedman on 7/21/2009 1:46PM
New Evidence Reveals Feds 'Coached, Cajoled, Threatened' Star Witness in Siegelman Case
Declarations filed in former AL Governor's request for new trial, describe government prosecutors manipulating key testimony, pressuring former aide in exchange for lighter sentence
Notes, communications and required FBI disclosures said illegally withheld from defense team...
How it's even possible that former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman's bribery case and conviction has not long ago been dropped by the Dept. of Justice is beyond us. There is now so much evidence of clear conflicts of interest, overt partisan political prosecutorial targeting, failures to recuse by at least one conflicted prosecutor as well as the judge in the case, evidence withheld from the defense team, and now evidence of the coaching and strong-arming of witnesses in exchange for a lighter prison sentence and a promise to conceal embarrassing personal information, it all makes the prosecutorial misconduct in the case of former Alaska Senator Ted Stevens --- a Republican whose case was dropped by Obama's Justice Dept. shortly after they came to power --- look like jaywalking."
This is a clear miscarriage of justice.
Rove being manhandled by the popo. Porno for FOTD.
I guess your pharmacist is going to miss a Viagra order this month.
Quote from: Conan71 on July 22, 2009, 10:30:00 PM
Rove being manhandled by the popo. Porno for FOTD.
I guess your pharmacist is going to miss a Viagra order this month.
Viagra's Latest Commercial Set in 'C Street House'
By Don Davis
"Once you've dealt with screwing your constituents, don't let erectile dysfunction get in the way. VIVA ... VIAGRA! Viagra, America's most prescribed treatment for hypocritical, sexually repressed evangelicals. Before using, ask Dr. Tom Coburn if you or your parents have enough hush money to keep your mistress and her husband quiet. Side effects may include blurred vision (never mind, you already had that Conman), upset spouses and flushing your career away. If an erection lasts for more than four hours, that's a good thing — at least it'll keep you from voting to deny health insurance to working-class Americans."
So when does Holder start bringing up charges?
Rove Had Heavier Hand in Prosecutor Firings Than Previously Known
By Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, July 30, 2009; 5:03 PM
"Political adviser Karl Rove and other high-ranking figures in the Bush White House played a greater role than previously understood in the firing of federal prosecutors almost three years ago, according to newly obtained e-mails that shed light on a scandal that led to mass Justice Department resignations and an ongoing criminal probe."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR2009073002023.html?hpid=topnews
"It's hardly surprising that Mr. Rove would minimize his involvement in the U.S. Attorney firings. . . The Committee believes that the full record will show Mr. Rove's role in the firing of the U.S. Attorneys was more substantial than his statements to the media indicate."