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You have "911" in your name...
You're one of "them" aren't you?
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Originally posted by sgrizzle
You have "911" in your name...
You're one of "them" aren't you?
LOL. You nailed it!
I am not a troofer but there is a lot more to the story than we have been told. My belief is that our intelligence apparatus knew an event was going to happen but was taken off guard that it was a suicidal plane attack. Indeed, Billy would do well to dismiss anything but the nekkid facks of the event.
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
I am not a troofer but there is a lot more to the story than we have been told. My belief is that our intelligence apparatus knew an event was going to happen but was taken off guard that it was a suicidal plane attack. Indeed, Billy would do well to dismiss anything but the nekkid facks of the event.
This is the second time Billy Jeff has scolded a troofer. BTW, I likewise believe that the fact you feel there may be more info about 9/11 does not make you a troofer. It is those persons who under the guise of asking questions, but in reality are claiming there are facts that it was an inside job (see Alex Jones or some Ron Paul supporters) who are troofers. I mean , other than those who claim that fire never melted steel and that the towers came down through controlled demolition. Where's ALT and why is he not weighing in on this?
You guys are all idiots. Clearly you're not seeing the big picture... Slick Willy must be in on it. [:P]
Who appointed that bureau-rat that erected the 'firewall' between the CIA and FBI? Who was concerned about the technical legalities of blowing away Osama? My point is that beyond the crazies there are legitimate concerns any citizen should have about the lead-up to the Planes Operation of September 11, 2001.
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Originally posted by tim huntzinger
Who appointed that bureau-rat that erected the 'firewall' between the CIA and FBI? Who was concerned about the technical legalities of blowing away Osama? My point is that beyond the crazies there are legitimate concerns any citizen should have about the lead-up to the Planes Operation of September 11, 2001.
I assume you are talking about Jamie Gorelick. Interesting (no infuriating) that she was on the 9/11 Commission since she played a large part in creating the intelligence breakdown.
Uh, I hope I am not sounding like a troofer?
Hey thanks Tim for sticking up for us so called "Troofers" while we are out of the room.
Simply put... There are questions about 9/11, we are entitled to the answers. What's so bad about asking questions? Really and Truly.
Lee Hamilton insists "the CIA made a conscious decision to impede the inquiry" I mean this guy was the Co-Chair of the 9/11 Commission for Pete's sake! Short Video Clip (//%22http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCEzP2K9oYE%22)
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Originally posted by altruismsuffers
Hey thanks Tim for sticking up for us so called "Troofers" while we are out of the room.
Simply put... There are questions about 9/11, we are entitled to the answers. What's so bad about asking questions? Really and Truly.
Lee Hamilton insists "the CIA made a conscious decision to impede the inquiry" I mean this guy was the Co-Chair of the 9/11 Commission for Pete's sake! Short Video Clip (//%22http://youtube.com/watch?v=TCEzP2K9oYE%22)
I knew it, the CIA crashed those planes into the twin towers...
This just out today
Head of 9/11 panel had friends in the white house (//%22http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/03/sept11.director.ap/index.html%22)
No Shi# Sherlock... Just another small piece to the puzzle.
For the last time ...
It's OK to ask questions about how 9/11 went down. I truly don't have problems with that. It's prudent to be a skeptic. Mistakes may (please note the word "may") have been made that day concerning airline security and other similar things.
But it's a colossal jump to lunacy to suggest that the government deliberately demolished buildings, flew cruise missiles into the towers, and other flights of lunacy.
The evidence overwhelmingly points to a terrorism attack and nothing else. Period.
but rwarn, the head of a government agency knew the head of another government agency.
What's more, yet another government agency took steps to impede an investigation that sought to expose it's vast incompetence.
Couple with the fact that the internets say it was an inside job it is all but certain that our government, in its vast and well known competence, pulled off the greatest and most vast conspiracy in the world. With only the airlines, several hundred air traffic controllers, the military, a few hundred citizens, some demolition crews, the ownership groups of the buildings, the investigation team, popular science, an international network of fake terrorists and a few other selected groups in on it - the secret is safe forever.
One question though, if it was the government that planned and executed this plot it would of had to be planned and set in motion by Bill Clinton. The time line just isn't there for GW to get it done in time. Since we all know the troofers hate Bush and won't want to blame Clinton, I think we should blame the military industrial complex - as a non-entity it would make for a better conspiracy.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
but rwarn, the head of a government agency knew the head of another government agency.
What's more, yet another government agency took steps to impede an investigation that sought to expose it's vast incompetence.
Couple with the fact that the internets say it was an inside job it is all but certain that our government, in its vast and well known competence, pulled off the greatest and most vast conspiracy in the world. With only the airlines, several hundred air traffic controllers, the military, a few hundred citizens, some demolition crews, the ownership groups of the buildings, the investigation team, popular science, an international network of fake terrorists and a few other selected groups in on it - the secret is safe forever.
One question though, if it was the government that planned and executed this plot it would of had to be planned and set in motion by Bill Clinton. The time line just isn't there for GW to get it done in time. Since we all know the troofers hate Bush and won't want to blame Clinton, I think we should blame the military industrial complex - as a non-entity it would make for a better conspiracy.
Don't forget that everyone in Israel knew because they sold all their investments in the US stock markets the day before the attack.
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Originally posted by rwarn17588
For the last time ...
It's OK to ask questions about how 9/11 went down. I truly don't have problems with that. It's prudent to be a skeptic. Mistakes may (please note the word "may") have been made that day concerning airline security and other similar things.
But it's a colossal jump to lunacy to suggest that the government deliberately demolished buildings, flew cruise missiles into the towers, and other flights of lunacy.
The evidence overwhelmingly points to a terrorism attack and nothing else. Period.
I never said these things. Just think about it for a second. I have literally been talking about this for years. I knew that Phillip Zelikow had connections with the Bush administration more then 2 years ago. Do you really think that the Main Stream Media is that far behind and incompetent?
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Originally posted by altruismsuffers
Do you really think that the Main Stream Media is that far behind and incompetent?
YESNow, what were we talking about?
It's one thing to ask questions. It's entirely another to spew dip-**** Star Trek theories about how it happened.
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Originally posted by Conan71
It's one thing to ask questions. It's entirely another to spew dip-**** Star Trek theories about how it happened.
Why do you all keep talking about "crazy theories" Go dig and see if you can find a post in which I propose some "crazy theory"
Hell, Both Kean and Hamilton have twice stated publicly, once in their 2006 book, Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission, and again in the January 2, 2008, New York Times, that there are inaccuracies in their report and unanswered--or mis-answered--questions.
Why were the 9/11 tapes destroyed? (//%22http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02042008.html%22)
Am I mistaken or have you not argued in the past that:
1) The government conspired to commit or aid these attacks
2) A missile shot down Flight 97
3) The WTC was brought down with demolition
4) No plane hit the pentagon, it was a missile
If not, then what IS your argument? If vague notions of "why were tapes destroyed" are the end questions you want answered then it really doesn't matter. If you want to know why they were destroyed because you suspect the above... then the burden of proof is yours and the answer STILL doesnt matter.
Stop defending and tell us what your getting at.
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Originally posted by cannon_fodder
Am I mistaken or have you not argued in the past that:
1) The government conspired to commit or aid these attacks
2) A missile shot down Flight 97
3) The WTC was brought down with demolition
4) No plane hit the pentagon, it was a missile
If not, then what IS your argument? If vague notions of "why were tapes destroyed" are the end questions you want answered then it really doesn't matter. If you want to know why they were destroyed because you suspect the above... then the burden of proof is yours and the answer STILL doesnt matter.
Stop defending and tell us what your getting at.
I have not argued this as fact, I have argued about the EVIDENCE that suggests some of these things.
Your point 1.) You first have to realize some of the huge gaps between what really happened and the official story before you can understand this idea, so place this last on the list.
Your point 2.) Donald Rumsfeld says the plane over Pennsylvania was shot down (//%22http://youtube.com/watch?v=HmzEzOJd2ws%22)
Your point 3.) What does the evidence suggest? Eyewitness and Meida accounts of bombs at WTC complex (//%22http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cby0DzaUjOo%22)
9/11 Commission BARS 503 first responders (//%22http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqph02WuE9g%22) You have to watch both of these too see where I am coming from and this is just a piece of the evidence, if you don't watch them DO NOT criticize my ideas.
Your Point 4.) Show me evidence that a plane hit the pentagon. Does any real evidence exist or just the "scraps" they told you were proof?
Is this a way to get back at the world for canceling "The Lone Gunman"?
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Originally posted by Breadburner
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Originally posted by altruismsuffers
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Originally posted by Conan71
It's one thing to ask questions. It's entirely another to spew dip-**** Star Trek theories about how it happened.
Why do you all keep talking about "crazy theories" Go dig and see if you can find a post in which I propose some "crazy theory"
Hell, Both Kean and Hamilton have twice stated publicly, once in their 2006 book, Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission, and again in the January 2, 2008, New York Times, that there are inaccuracies in their report and unanswered--or mis-answered--questions.
Why were the 9/11 tapes destroyed? (//%22http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02042008.html%22)
[EDITED]the 9/11 Commission report is not a perfect report - they never are. Did the CIA prevent some top secret stuff from coming out - well probably.
Kean and Hamilton wrote a book about the commission seem to have a motive - its called money! They want to sell more books.
When our nation turns against itself, we are in real trouble.
Our nation is likely in the fight of our lives from a creeping Islamic global rule.
Let's argue if that's real or not.
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Originally posted by Derailed
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Originally posted by altruismsuffers
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Originally posted by Conan71
It's one thing to ask questions. It's entirely another to spew dip-**** Star Trek theories about how it happened.
Why do you all keep talking about "crazy theories" Go dig and see if you can find a post in which I propose some "crazy theory"
Hell, Both Kean and Hamilton have twice stated publicly, once in their 2006 book, Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission, and again in the January 2, 2008, New York Times, that there are inaccuracies in their report and unanswered--or mis-answered--questions.
Why were the 9/11 tapes destroyed? (//%22http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02042008.html%22)
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You needed ALT to post
[EDITED] to get some insight into this guy? Read some of his posts or, better yet, look at the whooping he took from IP on this issue several months ago. Better yet, look at his website.
Anyone have a link to that newscast/infomercial he appears in?
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Originally posted by altruismsuffers
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Originally posted by Breadburner
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I assure you this was COOL.
Derailed: "creeping Islamic global rule" Are you serious? Have you been listening to too much Bruce Delay? We have a military budget that is bigger then the rest of the world's combined and you think that a few nuts who blow themselves up is "creeping Islamic global rule"? Do you live in the closet because you're afraid the boogie man is gonna get ya?
Hell if you were around a few decades ago you would be preaching about the "creeping communist global rule"
Or wait, if you lived in germany it would have been the "creeping Jewish global rule"
Why don't you wake up and smell the lies buddy this whole FAKE enemy thing has gone on too many times for you to keep falling for it.
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Originally posted by altruismsuffers
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Originally posted by altruismsuffers
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Originally posted by Breadburner
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[UNCOOL]
I assure you this was COOL.
Derailed: "creeping Islamic global rule" Are you serious? Have you been listening to too much Bruce Delay? We have a military budget that is bigger then the rest of the world's combined and you think that a few nuts who blow themselves up is "creeping Islamic global rule"? Do you live in the closet because you're afraid the boogie man is gonna get ya?
Hell if you were around a few decades ago you would be preaching about the "creeping communist global rule"
Or wait, if you lived in germany it would have been the "creeping Jewish global rule"
Why don't you wake up and smell the lies buddy this whole FAKE enemy thing has gone on too many times for you to keep falling for it.
Why don't you google "asymmetrical warfare" and find out if we have anything to be worried about, and while you are at it, try to figure out how we lost Vietnam with such an advantage in military spending. Hell, research WW-I and the crusades.
Swake I don't really understand what asymmetrical warfare has to do with what I said.
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Originally posted by altruismsuffers
Swake I don't really understand what has to do with what I said.
You have your head in the sand if you can't connect "asymmetrical warfare" with "We have a military budget that is bigger then the rest of the world's combined and you think that a few nuts who blow themselves up is "creeping Islamic global rule"
It is the goal of a segment of the Islamic would to remake the world their way, they fight without morals and using any means. We are certainly in an "asymmetrical war" and the more we hit back with the sledgehammer of our might the more the shattered pieces left by our strikes become sharp and dangerous.
We are in a very serious conflict and our strength, and stupidity, is being used against us.