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Talk About Tulsa => Development & New Businesses => Topic started by: RecycleMichael on April 11, 2007, 12:18:13 PM

Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: RecycleMichael on April 11, 2007, 12:18:13 PM
If we could find the perfect buyers and developers to build on the site where they will be taking down the Camelot, what would they build?

We could always use more retail for the sales tax income and a new hotel would be nice and could have pretty views of our river full of water.

Could it be a tourist attraction? Maybe a children's museum or a big, tall Indian Statue?

How about a casino or another drive-through bank?

How about glass cube-shaped building to house county administration personnel?

What do we want to go there?
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: cannon_fodder on April 11, 2007, 12:26:39 PM
I'm guessing a roadside hotel goes up there.  Like a La Quinta or something along those lines.  If the studies on hotel rooms commissioned by the city jive with what private industry sees someone will put up a hotel on the centrally located, interstate accessible site.

Alternately, an apartment building would probably do well in that area also.  Hell, there arent any open lots nearby so nearly anything would (should) do well there.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: rwarn17588 on April 11, 2007, 12:28:05 PM
A Costco. If you're gonna go with a national retail chain, go with a good one.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: NellieBly on April 11, 2007, 12:43:30 PM
How about a decent intersection for I-44 and Peoria and a green space between peoria and the neighborhood as a buffer.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: Ibanez on April 11, 2007, 12:50:03 PM
A really big Starbucks or a very small Bell's.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: Breadburner on April 11, 2007, 01:09:07 PM
Another Hotel would be the best choice...I have stayed in many Hampton Inns...They are always nice....
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: Dana431 on April 11, 2007, 01:23:28 PM
The spot would be an excellent place for an Oklahoma Visitors Center.  It could bring tourism traffic off of I-44 and straight to Brookside.  The current one on 161st East Avenue and I-44 is near nothing.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: Dana431 on April 11, 2007, 01:27:24 PM
ODot is buying houses and commercial buildings on both sides of I-44 for expansion.  This could be a good time ask for a relocation of the Oklahoma visitors Center.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: stymied on April 11, 2007, 01:28:01 PM
Quick Trip somehow has some sort of first right of refusal for use of the land.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: Breadburner on April 11, 2007, 01:52:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by stymied

Quick Trip somehow has some sort of first right of refusal for use of the land.



That would be bad....But I understand QT's interest....
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: iplaw on April 11, 2007, 02:00:02 PM
I think another casino would be appropriate.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: DM on April 11, 2007, 02:04:46 PM
I would not mind seeing another hotel in its place. I think that is a great area for a hotel. Especially with all the changes that will be coming with the new wider highway and it is not that far away from Brookside area.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: tulsa1603 on April 11, 2007, 02:28:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Breadburner

quote:
Originally posted by stymied

Quick Trip somehow has some sort of first right of refusal for use of the land.



That would be bad....But I understand QT's interest....



My money's on Quik Trip actually getting it.  Their location up at 46th and Peoria is probably due for replacement, and this would be highly visible...  Personally, I'd prefer a hotel over just about anything.  There are already enough run down strip malls in the vicinity.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: waterboy on April 11, 2007, 02:29:16 PM
I'd like to see a compound of 5 buildings that would include:

1.Visitor Center
2.Immigrant Processing Center
3.Liquour Store
4."Mini" Casino featuring only one armed bandits
5.Smoke Shop

We could really make a statement here. Having just crossed over the I-44 bridge featuring our infamous aroma therapy plant, visitors would soon see our true personality revealed.[:P] Maybe Quik Trip could be remodeled to include all 5. Hoo, yah!
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: akupetsky on April 11, 2007, 03:41:09 PM
I've noticed a real dearth of surface lots over there....

Seriously, I think an OK, or Tulsa, visitor's center, combined with a parking garage, and shuttle services to Brookside would be a good idea.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: Conan71 on April 12, 2007, 10:59:27 AM
So what happens on highway ROW when they come through and widen it?  I'm guessing that pushes back the frontage road some and would carve into the property?
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: RecycleMichael on April 12, 2007, 11:10:43 AM
I think it is going to be a massive Quik-Trip.

It could be a flagship store that also serves as a Visitor Center.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: grahambino on April 12, 2007, 01:29:11 PM
a castle themed hotel...
oh wait.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: jdb on April 12, 2007, 02:13:11 PM
...and punch in a cop sub-station, to the side.

Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: YoungTulsan on April 12, 2007, 02:26:17 PM
Im guessing the chicken restraunt is going to be taken out by the highway?

You could do some even bigger things with the Camelot land tho.  The other properties next door and the homes along Newport and 49th place would probably sell without much fuss.  Then you have about a block and a half by a block and a half to work with.

Luckily there is already a Walmart Neighborhood market just blocks to the north, otherwise, they'd be drooling all over this landmass.
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: Breadburner on April 12, 2007, 03:24:42 PM
quote:
Originally posted by teddy jack eddy

How about putting "The Indian" statue where the Camelot stands?

As a roadside attraction it would be easy to find and see, and being so close to the Interstate it would attract a lot of attention.

Imagine the Indian statue welcoming people to a developed river area.



They could put a smoke shop in one foot and a liqur store in the other....
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: inteller on April 12, 2007, 07:16:41 PM
i think ICE should build an office there and hang a big sign thats says "Illegals, don't let the sun go down on you"
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: SoonerRiceGrad on April 13, 2007, 01:41:55 AM
Here's what I want:

A transcendentalist meditation freak show. [}:)]

Call me crazy....
Title: What do we want where the Camelot is?
Post by: flybriz on April 13, 2007, 08:57:36 AM
Well, my wife and I live at 50th and Quincy so we are quite close to the Camelot.  I'd like to see the chicken restaurant expand...  Become something of an "Incredible Pizza" with go carts and skee-ball... and all you can eat chicken.  mmmmmm.  Seriously, the visitor center idea sounds pretty sweet...  We don't need another bank, convenience store, nor coffee shop in the vicinity.  As long as I'm wishing, my vote would be for a World Market.  That's pending, of course, the legalization of wine sales in grocery stores.  Second to that, the Hampton Inn idea sounds good - anything to put that ugly Super 8 out of business.