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Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: CircleCinema on December 27, 2006, 03:40:46 PM
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Circle Cinema presents SHUT UP AND SING, the new documentary movie from two time Academy Award-winning filmmaker Barbara Kopple that chronicles the lives of the Dixie Chicks from 2003 to the start of their 2006 tour.

Travel with the Dixie Chicks, from the peak of their popularity as the national-anthem-singing darlings of country music and top-selling female recording artists of all time, through the now infamous anti-Bush comment made by the groups lead singer Natalie Maines in 2003. All the highs, lows and mayhem that occurred just before and for the three years following "the incident" are all here. The personal attacks, personal growth, a changing world, making music, having babies, receiving death threats, and even a fair amount of laughter.

SHUT UP AND SING will open at the Circle on Friday, January 12th.  For more information, visit www.circlecinema.com or call 592-FILM, that's 592-3456.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 07, 2007, 11:58:08 PM
Wasn't that the name of a book by Laura "Petulant and Clueless" Ingraham?
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: sgrizzle on May 08, 2007, 07:21:37 AM
What I like is they make a movie about the phrase instead of just doing it.

Actors get away with having opinions but the effect of the general public is much more immediate and direct with musicians so they aren't allowed opinions.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: rwarn17588 on May 08, 2007, 12:39:33 PM
I saw the movie at the Circle. It was worth it for the music alone.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: RecycleMichael on May 08, 2007, 01:43:51 PM
I own the DVD.

The Dixie Chicks make great music. I wish musical artists would not get involved in politics, but they probably wish that crazies like me didn't either.

I want to start a band of three guys called the Chicksie Dicks.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 09, 2007, 02:18:21 PM
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Originally posted by sgrizzle

What I like is they make a movie about the phrase instead of just doing it.

Actors get away with having opinions but the effect of the general public is much more immediate and direct with musicians so they aren't allowed opinions.



I figure as long as someone knows what they're talking about, and does their homework on a given topic, it doesn't matter the opinion or who it's from. What I can't stand are people who sound off on things without being fully educated on the facts-people who do not have opinions, but rather adopt a fashionable attitude about the topics or simply go along with a prevailing or counter-prevailing view.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 09, 2007, 04:24:47 PM
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I figure as long as someone knows what they're talking about
You could have just stopped there.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 09, 2007, 06:54:20 PM
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Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
I figure as long as someone knows what they're talking about
You could have just stopped there.



Yes, however, so many tend to echo what they have heard from someone on talk radio (conservative or liberal), rather than researching the matter for themselves from a variety of sources and coming up with their own opinions. Same goes for Hollyweird. Regardless where one stands on the issues in that crazy crazy town, I want to be sure they know exactly what they are talking about. Fortunately, there are indeed some in Hollweird who are highly intelligent and educate themselves on the issues, just as as there are in the news media.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 10, 2007, 08:22:09 AM
I've yet to find any.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 10, 2007, 01:38:02 PM
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Originally posted by iplaw

I've yet to find any.



But-in all due respect-have you actually looked?
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 11, 2007, 10:26:42 AM
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Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

I've yet to find any.



But-in all due respect-have you actually looked?

Yes.  It's fairly easy to IMBD and google people.  Sometimes their actions speak for themselves.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 11, 2007, 02:03:41 PM
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Originally posted by iplaw

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Originally posted by mr.jaynes

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Originally posted by iplaw

I've yet to find any.



But-in all due respect-have you actually looked?

Yes.  It's fairly easy to IMBD and google people.  Sometimes their actions speak for themselves.



You probably will not agree, but I find Hollywood's Janeane Garofalo highly intelligent. I may not see eye-to-eye with her
on many things, but I've got the impression that she does her homework on the topics on which she holds forth. I can still remmeber an interview she did on Fox News (I think it was on "Fox and Friends" in the morning). While Brian Kilmeade, by all appearances, was basing his arguments on emotion with not much in the way of rational thought and analysis (and it did seem that he didn't do his homework on the matters discussed), Garofalo stuck to her guns.

Speaking of Kilmeade, I can't believe they gave him a radio show, much less a morning show. He should stick to sports.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: rwarn17588 on May 11, 2007, 02:20:34 PM
Kilmeade is an impulsive lizard brain, but his sidekick, Judge Napolitano, keeps him in check pretty well because he, um, actually knows things and dutifully corrects him.

Those two create an strange dynamic, but it makes for good radio. I listen to that show quite often. It's one of the better ones.

As for the Dixie Chicks, I never thought of them as Hollywood types. They're native Texans, and spend most of their time either in the Lone Star State or Nashville -- both of which aren't exactly bastions of liberalism.

They spoke out, and paid a brief price. Now, as the movie displays, their stock is rising while Bush's keeps falling.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 11, 2007, 03:08:56 PM
I have heard it only on the Internet, as the radio show does not seem to be broadcasted down here in the greater Biloxi area-and thank God for that. But from what I'd gotten from the official Fox Radio website and having listened to the show from there, I got that the Judge was a very erudite and knowledgable man of many subjects. Unfortunately, he is unlucky to be partnered with this third-rate ex-sportscaster with apparently less intellectual brilliance and refined social skills than a gnat, who has obvious delusions of Punditry.

As for Big Brian's colleagues on Fox and Friends, I'm a little fuzzy on what makes them such mavens on the political scene anyway. Steve Doocy's credentials in the Journalism field show me that some people are just not ready for big-time network success, while Gretchen Carlson? Beautiful to look at, but let's face it, you need more than a pretty face to report and analyze the news of the day. I think the best way to describe that show is simply a dose of propoganda to start the day out.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 11, 2007, 03:49:17 PM
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You probably will not agree, but I find Hollywood's Janeane Garofalo highly intelligent.
Yeah.  Not so much.  

She's a 9/11 Troofer for starters, so there goes about 95% of her credibility, and she surrendered the rest when she participated in political events with Jello Biafra...
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 11, 2007, 04:44:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
You probably will not agree, but I find Hollywood's Janeane Garofalo highly intelligent.
Yeah.  Not so much.  

She's a 9/11 Troofer for starters, so there goes about 95% of her credibility, and she surrendered the rest when she participated in political events with Jello Biafra...



I figure she has well-researched opinions, whereas Kilmeade seems to think that coming off like a neanderthal in debates automatically gives his case more credibility.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 11, 2007, 04:47:59 PM
Well, you can figure all day, but he being a Troofer proves she can't research.  Anyways she's an actress...she can fake like she's well read at least.[;)]
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 11, 2007, 04:57:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

Well, you can figure all day, but he being a Troofer proves she can't research.  Anyways she's an actress...she can fake like she's well read at least.[;)]



Could my esteemed colleague please define "troofer" ? And besides, you're not the only one with the capacity to form logical opinions.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 14, 2007, 08:23:20 AM
Yes.  She is an ardent supporter of the 9/11 Truth movement.  Once you've crossed that line your credibility is shot...forever.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 14, 2007, 02:48:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

Yes.  She is an ardent supporter of the 9/11 Truth movement.  Once you've crossed that line your credibility is shot...forever.



The question stands: define "troofer."
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 14, 2007, 03:07:18 PM
9/11 Truth = 9/11 Troof.  It's a slur for an ignorant conpsiracy theory movement.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 14, 2007, 03:19:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

Yes.  She is an ardent supporter of the 9/11 Truth movement.  Once you've crossed that line your credibility is shot...forever.



Well, shoot over your documentation and let me have a look at it, see for myself.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 14, 2007, 03:36:45 PM
"9/11 was an inside job!! I have come to this conclusion about that."
She thinks 9/11 was an inside job (//%22http://airamericaradio.tribe.net/thread/c8c3d5a4-870d-44e9-82b3-fb45b32371ab%22)

She's Signatory #32 (//%22http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633%22)
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 14, 2007, 05:41:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

"9/11 was an inside job!! I have come to this conclusion about that."
She thinks 9/11 was an inside job (//%22http://airamericaradio.tribe.net/thread/c8c3d5a4-870d-44e9-82b3-fb45b32371ab%22)

She's Signatory #32 (//%22http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633%22)



I may not agree with her on these things, but it is not enough grounds for me to impugn her intelligence nor her patriotism.
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Post by: pmcalk on May 14, 2007, 05:43:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by recyclemichael

I own the DVD.

The Dixie Chicks make great music. I wish musical artists would not get involved in politics, but they probably wish that crazies like me didn't either.

I want to start a band of three guys called the Chicksie Dicks.



Music and activism go together like peanut butter and jelly.  What if we were to tell Woody Guthrie to not express his opinions?  Even abolitionists used music to spread their message.  If you remove the meaning from music, well, then it would just be meaningless.  Yes, more musicians lean toward the liberal point of view (not too many Bob Roberts out there), but most artists do.  Whether you agree with them or not, the Dixie Chicks are following in a long line of musical activists.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 14, 2007, 06:53:20 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

"9/11 was an inside job!! I have come to this conclusion about that."
She thinks 9/11 was an inside job (//%22http://airamericaradio.tribe.net/thread/c8c3d5a4-870d-44e9-82b3-fb45b32371ab%22)

She's Signatory #32 (//%22http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633%22)



I may not agree with her on these things, but it is not enough grounds for me to impugn her intelligence nor her patriotism.

That's unfortunate.  Seems like you have a problem with acknowledging the obvious.
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Post by: mr.jaynes on May 14, 2007, 07:11:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

"9/11 was an inside job!! I have come to this conclusion about that."
She thinks 9/11 was an inside job (//%22http://airamericaradio.tribe.net/thread/c8c3d5a4-870d-44e9-82b3-fb45b32371ab%22)

She's Signatory #32 (//%22http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633%22)



I may not agree with her on these things, but it is not enough grounds for me to impugn her intelligence nor her patriotism.

That's unfortunate.  Seems like you have a problem with acknowledging the obvious.



No, I just don't blindly go on witchhunts. I may not agree with her, but I won't vilify her.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 15, 2007, 08:03:23 AM
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Originally posted by mr.jaynes
No, I just don't blindly go on witchhunts. I may not agree with her, but I won't vilify her.

Are you kidding me?  What's blind about this other than your wilful blindness to the obvious?  You've seen the quotes and you know her position on the issue.  She's a fool.  

She denigrates the NYFD and NYPD every time she spouts this nonsense.  Are you happy standing up for someone who calls into question the integrity and valor of the men and women who died trying to save innocent lives on 9/11?

Too bad your partisanship can't let you acknowledge foolish behavior and ignorant POVs.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 15, 2007, 01:57:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes
No, I just don't blindly go on witchhunts. I may not agree with her, but I won't vilify her.

Are you kidding me?  What's blind about this other than your wilful blindness to the obvious?  You've seen the quotes and you know her position on the issue.  She's a fool.  

She denigrates the NYFD and NYPD every time she spouts this nonsense.  Are you happy standing up for someone who calls into question the integrity and valor of the men and women who died trying to save innocent lives on 9/11?

Too bad your partisanship can't let you acknowledge foolish behavior and ignorant POVs.




Since 9/11, I've long believed that the men and women of New York's Fire Department and Police Department and EMSA are some of the most valiant people on the planet, and always have. Those are the true heroes of 9/11.

As for what I believe about it, my beliefs on what came about on that day are completely different than Ms. Garofalo's. But once again, her theories on the matter (as any other position she has ever taken), show she's done her homework, whether I agree or not (and I don't).  

And IP, don't be a Brian Kilmeade-you're obviously a smarter person than that.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: iplaw on May 15, 2007, 02:13:01 PM
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Originally posted by mr.jaynes
Since 9/11, I've long believed that the men and women of New York's Fire Department and Police Department and EMSA are some of the most valiant people on the planet, and always have. Those are the true heroes of 9/11.

That's wonderful.  She doesn't feel the same way, and she's a fool for saying so.

quote:

But once again, her theories on the matter (as any other position she has ever taken), show she's done her homework, whether I agree or not (and I don't).  

No it simply proves that she listens conspiracy theorists and nutjobs.  If she did her homework she'd be singing a different tune.  Doing your "homework" doesn't mean adopting a position, sans the research.
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 15, 2007, 02:29:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes
Since 9/11, I've long believed that the men and women of New York's Fire Department and Police Department and EMSA are some of the most valiant people on the planet, and always have. Those are the true heroes of 9/11.

That's wonderful.  She doesn't feel the same way, and she's a fool for saying so.

quote:

But once again, her theories on the matter (as any other position she has ever taken), show she's done her homework, whether I agree or not (and I don't).  

No it simply proves that she listens conspiracy theorists and nutjobs.  If she did her homework she'd be singing a different tune.  Doing your "homework" doesn't mean adopting a position, sans the research.



OK, so we'll agree to disagree without being totally disagreable.
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Post by: iplaw on May 15, 2007, 02:42:28 PM
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Originally posted by mr.jaynes

OK, so we'll agree to disagree without being totally disagreable.

Fair enough, but just ask yourself if you'd be this accomodating with a Flat Earth Society member...
Title: SHUT UP AND SING - The Dixie Chicks documentary
Post by: mr.jaynes on May 15, 2007, 05:24:10 PM
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Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by mr.jaynes

OK, so we'll agree to disagree without being totally disagreable.

Fair enough, but just ask yourself if you'd be this accomodating with a Flat Earth Society member...



Of course I would.