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Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: Chicken Little on December 26, 2006, 10:55:25 AM
from Herald Tribune (//%22http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/26/news/military.php%22):

quote:
WASHINGTON: The armed forces, already struggling to meet recruiting goals, are considering expanding the number of noncitizens in the ranks — including disputed proposals to open recruiting stations overseas and put more immigrants on a faster track to U.S. citizenship if they volunteer — according to Pentagon officials.

Foreign citizens' serving in the U.S. military is a highly charged issue, which could expose the Pentagon to criticism that it is essentially using mercenaries to defend the country. Other analysts voice concern that a large contingent of noncitizens under arms could jeopardize national security or reflect badly on Americans' willingness to serve in uniform...

Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: snopes on December 26, 2006, 12:09:01 PM
I guess we'll be outsourcing Congress next. Hey, wait a minute, not a bad idea, at least for the outgoing Congress.
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: aoxamaxoa on December 26, 2006, 03:18:00 PM
Someone Must Put an End to this Madness and Remove Bush and Cheney from Office -- and Then Try Them. Now, They are Considering Recruiting Foreign Mercenaries for the U.S. Military!
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/12/26/military_considers_recruiting_foreigners/


"Apparently, nothing focuses this man [Bush] like failure. He seemed energized by the gigantic mess he's made, and eager to make the mess worse. There's clearly something psychological at work here. He's spent his life trying to talk himself out of bad situations of his own making, so maybe this has put him in a comfort zone."
George W. Bush: a sadistic, torture-loving sociopath....
http://www.blueoregon.com/2006/12/george_w_bush_a.html
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: Chicken Little on December 26, 2006, 03:34:17 PM
^Dude, you posted the same article...bad netiquette...shows you are not reading.
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: aoxamaxoa on December 26, 2006, 10:51:27 PM
So what....a different link. Point is the man's off beat. Consider it a Presidential Sociopath Alert.

Because of Bush's sociopathic leadership of America into war and debt, projects that would help America are dying on the vine: "In private conversations across the country this holiday break, pediatricians are buttonholing their congressmen and making a heartfelt plea: Save the National Children's Study. Cash crunch imperils major tracking project."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0612250095dec25,1,1593491.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

"The issue is really an issue of prioritization" of limited research money, Elias Zerhouni, director of the National Institutes of Health, told a Senate hearing in May."

They have their priorities all screwed up.
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: Hometown on December 27, 2006, 12:57:51 PM
Several nations that are part of our so-called alliance are already being paid.

Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: Chicken Little on December 27, 2006, 02:47:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

So what....a different link. Point is the man's off beat. Consider it a Presidential Sociopath Alert.


Since we're talking APD, the "so what" is that posts on a forum should exhibit some kind of interplay.  Behavior counts.  Why do you think you get flamed so much?  Hint: it ain't your policy positions.  

/"Antisocial Posting Disorder", btw.
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: aoxamaxoa on December 27, 2006, 03:04:41 PM
You need to change your moniker to Little Chicken Sh#t....better suits you.

But here's a peace offering of humor...The Warmth of a President! http://weeklyradioaddress.com/WRA_WOAP.htm
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: Hometown on December 27, 2006, 03:33:27 PM
Personally, I don't like to leave a site to follow links to other sites.  I like it when people make their point in their own words in a few paragraphs.  Okay, I scan newspapers and usually don't go beyond the headline (copy editors rule).

Now, just because some people have jumped on Aoxamaxoa doesn't detract from him.  Most people in a group carry on like lemmings and when they see the group piling on they can't wait to start kicking.  I find that behavior lacking in character.

"It's a fool who plays the cool."  Aoxamaxoa ain't cool.  We don't need cool.

Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: guido911 on December 27, 2006, 03:52:02 PM
quote:
Now, just because some people have jumped on Aoxamaxoa doesn't detract from him.  Most people in a group carry on like lemmings and when they see the group piling on they can't wait to start kicking.  I find that behavior lacking in character.
.

Yeah that's it. It's not AOX's own doing. It's not AOX's gems such as "Little Chicken Sh#t" or " Someone Must Put an End to this Madness and Remove Bush and Cheney from Office -- and Then Try Them" or "George W. Bush: a sadistic, torture-loving sociopath...."
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: aoxamaxoa on December 27, 2006, 03:58:47 PM
I don't need Homeboy passing judgement on me.....when cool was cool, some here were there. Not much cool these daze. Just look at  TV, Movies, Music, the local scene...things ain't what they used to be, not even close. And perhaps it's what has resulted from having a slug who is a very "queer" leader coupled with the faceless and depersonalized technology era.

Back on topic, http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1224-20.htm
Let's Get Everybody's Troops Out of Everywhere  
by Micah Zenko
 
"Who wants to be occupied? Nobody wants to be occupied."
-- President Bush, May 7, 2004

BTW, I do not pretend to be a writer of merit which is why I post links which do a much better job explaining the truth. Plus, I don't have to put up with the lemmings attacking me....
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: aoxamaxoa on December 27, 2006, 04:06:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Now, just because some people have jumped on Aoxamaxoa doesn't detract from him.  Most people in a group carry on like lemmings and when they see the group piling on they can't wait to start kicking.  I find that behavior lacking in character.
.

Yeah that's it. It's not AOX's own doing. It's not AOX's gems such as "Little Chicken Sh#t" or " Someone Must Put an End to this Madness and Remove Bush and Cheney from Office -- and Then Try Them" or "George W. Bush: a sadistic, torture-loving sociopath...."



Gwee doe doe! You're back from playing Christmas?
Here! http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nationworld/bal-te.investigate26dec26,0,7071390.story?coll=bal-home-headlines
"Like any White House that has to deal with a Congress run by the other party, this White House has to bulk up its staff to deal with the inevitable flood of subpoenas. They're also going to have to coordinate with lots of friends and supporters," said Mark Corallo, a former top Republican aide to the House committee that issued more than 1,000 subpoenas to the Clinton camp."

Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: guido911 on December 27, 2006, 05:37:35 PM
Don't ya think Congress should be looking at ways of getting us out of Iraq, or hiking the minimum wage, or fixing the economy, or ending global warming, or even smashing Halliburton? Nope. The plan is to issue subpoenas to Bush. I actually hope this is the Democrat strategy. The American people love political in-fighting, bickering, and revenge politics.

Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: Chicken Little on December 27, 2006, 06:44:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

...I actually hope this is the Democrat strategy...
Its not.  There's an interesting article in the NY Times (//%22http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/27/us/politics/27civil.html?ex=1324875600&en=1908a7bc51c2d834&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss%22) today...retaliation is not in the cards right now.  Of note:

- Hastert gets prime office space
- Pelosi is already in consultation with Boehner on next year's initiatives
- talk (with Boehner) of independent enforcement of House ethics rules
- Support for a severance package for outgoing senior Republican aides
- "full and open" conference committees where House and Senate bills are reconciled

Its not so much about being "nice" as it is recognizing how horribly wrong things have been going for the last few decades:
quote:
"The House has been so egregiously run for a number of years that it was seen as contributing both directly and indirectly to the election results," said Thomas Mann, a Congressional scholar at the Brookings Institution. "There really is a strong political incentive to try to do business differently."
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: aoxamaxoa on December 27, 2006, 07:30:23 PM
Here poor Gwee doe:
http://www.celebritybuttplugs.com/

For your pleasure....
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: Conan71 on December 28, 2006, 11:01:15 AM
Mercenaries?  Gimme a break. [:(!]

Personally, I don't have a problem with it.

"You want to live here?  Are you willing to fight for it?"
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: aoxamaxoa on December 29, 2006, 12:27:56 AM
"You want to live here? Are you willing to fight for it?"

That's plain old fashion "love it or leave it" crapola....come on Conman, you can do better.
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: guido911 on December 29, 2006, 08:45:51 AM
aox. I didn't open the link given the address. Is there something you are not telling us?
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: Conan71 on December 29, 2006, 10:20:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

"You want to live here? Are you willing to fight for it?"

That's plain old fashion "love it or leave it" crapola....come on Conman, you can do better.



Okay AOX, you've changed my perspective, from now on it will be:

"Come on in and take advantage of our tax-supported largesse even though you have no respect nor appreciation for our culture, language, laws, national security, and sense of personal responsibility.  And don't worry about contributing to our income tax system, there are really wealthy people we can fleece to pay for all the free services you are about to receive.  Oh, and by the way, we will continue to send only Amercian Citizens to protect you and your family while you enjoy your prolonged stay in our country."

You have changed my opinion so much Aoxymoron that I think I will start a free barge service and bus service to help the poor pregnant mothers to get to Parkland in Dallas safely so they can give birth to American citizens who will eventually join our military.

/sarc
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: Hometown on December 29, 2006, 10:43:02 AM
My understanding is that we have an agreement with at least one Latin American nation to reimburse them a specific dollar amount for each soldier they commit to our "alliance."  There are probably many more payoffs going on than I am aware of.

Because gaining entry to this country can be a matter of life or death I support this proposal.  But it does seem to fly in the face of the kind of social justice we were seeking during the Vietnam era when we went to the lottery system to select draftees.

Before the lottery system it was mostly working class kids that fought and died in Vietnam.  Today we find ourselves in the same situation.  The Iraq war is largely being fought by working class kids.  If our Chicken Hawk leaders faced the prospect of sending their kids, or God forbid, serve themselves, we wouldn't be there.

Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: aoxamaxoa on December 29, 2006, 11:18:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by aoxamaxoa

"You want to live here? Are you willing to fight for it?"

That's plain old fashion "love it or leave it" crapola....come on Conman, you can do better.



Okay AOX, you've changed my perspective, from now on it will be:

"Come on in and take advantage of our tax-supported largesse even though you have no respect nor appreciation for our culture, language, laws, national security, and sense of personal responsibility.  And don't worry about contributing to our income tax system, there are really wealthy people we can fleece to pay for all the free services you are about to receive.  Oh, and by the way, we will continue to send only Amercian Citizens to protect you and your family while you enjoy your prolonged stay in our country."

You have changed my opinion so much Aoxymoron that I think I will start a free barge service and bus service to help the poor pregnant mothers to get to Parkland in Dallas safely so they can give birth to American citizens who will eventually join our military.

/sarc



Test me test me Conman.....when i read between the lines it sez bigotry.....
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: aoxamaxoa on December 29, 2006, 12:36:11 PM
quote:
Originally posted by guido911

aox. I didn't open the link given the address. Is there something you are not telling us?



Gwee doe...don't be so paranoid.
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: rwarn17588 on December 29, 2006, 12:44:27 PM
It's OK, Guido. You can open the link.

Those big ears Bush has would hurt, though. [}:)]

Maybe Guido's afraid of being turned on. [;)]
Title: Military May Add Foreigners to Arsenal
Post by: tim huntzinger on December 29, 2006, 11:01:02 PM
Well, an empire is a collection of nations, after all.

I am all about saving as many Iraqis as possible from the bloodshed in that corner of the empire, and want to control the homeland's southern border.

The Iraqis, meanwhile, are being blown to bits signing up for day labor, but they still line up.  They are murdered by the scores in police stations or at recruiting offices, but they still line up.

I think we should offer the Iraqis a chance to help us round up folk in the American desert.  They can stand the heat.