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Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: pmcalk on November 16, 2006, 10:42:09 PM
Once again the administration shows great skill in word play ala 1984.  No, the administration has not developed some great new plan to ensure that all people in our great nation are fed; instead, the Dept of Agriculture has chosen to merely relabel them.  The hungry are not longer hungry, they simply have "very low food security."

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2659818&page=1

I am sure that their stomachs will growl a bit less tonight, with the new term they have been given.

I am thinking that we should relabel the whole Iraq mess as, not so much a war, as simply "pacification challenged."
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: sgrizzle on November 17, 2006, 07:02:57 AM
I consider myself fiscally challenged but generally suffer from a highly secure food supply.
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: RecycleMichael on November 17, 2006, 07:56:45 AM
I consider myself gravitationally challenged, not overweight.

I also have very low reality security
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: AVERAGE JOE on November 18, 2006, 09:53:00 AM
I personally suffer from Heightened Intolerance to Bovine Fecal Matter myself...
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: papaspot on November 18, 2006, 10:03:54 AM
And Bush has Cerebral Prowess Insufficiency.
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: Double A on November 18, 2006, 03:01:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by AVERAGE JOE

I personally suffer from Heightened Intolerance to Bovine Fecal Matter myself...



FFN (//%22http://www.foxsearchlight.com/fastfoodnation/%22)! I can't wait to see it.
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: Conan71 on November 21, 2006, 03:46:19 PM
Okay, I have to add my "Michael Richards" comment now.  Why is it so many poor people and people I see buying food with food stamps at the grocery store are so grossly overweight?

I know I'm racist and insensitive, lemme have it [B)]
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: TheArtist on November 21, 2006, 05:09:54 PM
They don't work?  They don't know how to eat right, or the importance of eating right?  Junk food is often cheaper, more filling, less work and easier to find than healthy food? They don't exercise?  They don't care?  Any combination of the above?
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: Rico on November 21, 2006, 05:23:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

They don't work?  They don't know how to eat right, or the importance of eating right?  Junk food is often cheaper, more filling, less work and easier to find than healthy food? They don't exercise?  They don't care?  Any combination of the above?



A blanket statement, of this sort, should make you aware of how stereotypes are born........... Possibly even Bigotry...

That is unless you have proof of your assertions.?
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: papaspot on November 21, 2006, 05:27:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Okay, I have to add my "Michael Richards" comment now.  Why is it so many poor people and people I see buying food with food stamps at the grocery store are so grossly overweight?

I know I'm racist and insensitive, lemme have it [B)]



People from lower economic groups traditionally have pretty sorry diets. Food stamps will buy bacon fat as sure as they'll buy broccoli.
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: brunoflipper on November 21, 2006, 10:31:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

They don't work?  They don't know how to eat right, or the importance of eating right?  Junk food is often cheaper, more filling, less work and easier to find than healthy food? They don't exercise?  They don't care?  Any combination of the above?



A blanket statement, of this sort, should make you aware of how stereotypes are born........... Possibly even Bigotry...

That is unless you have proof of your assertions.?




there is significant evidence of the link between obesity and poverty (food insecurity), particularly in industrialized nations... his points were all correct and play a role in the link...

some articles for starters (//%22http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed&cmd=Search&db=pubmed&orig_db=pubmed&term=obesity+poverty%22)
Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: Rico on November 21, 2006, 10:50:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

They don't work?  They don't know how to eat right, or the importance of eating right?  Junk food is often cheaper, more filling, less work and easier to find than healthy food? They don't exercise?  They don't care?  Any combination of the above?



A blanket statement, of this sort, should make you aware of how stereotypes are born........... Possibly even Bigotry...

That is unless you have proof of your assertions.?




there is significant evidence of the link between obesity and poverty (food insecurity), particularly in industrialized nations... his points were all correct and play a role in the link...

some articles for starters (//%22http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed&cmd=Search&db=pubmed&orig_db=pubmed&term=obesity+poverty%22)




And you find the reference to poverty in which sentence in the above post...?



I guess my problem with the statement by "artist" is the "They".... Kind of a blanket description of a group that may be comprised of many different people from many different walks of life and placed in a bad situation for many different reasons..
Not a one size fits all.

Title: Bush eliminates hunger
Post by: brunoflipper on November 22, 2006, 06:56:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

quote:
Originally posted by brunoflipper

quote:
Originally posted by Rico

quote:
Originally posted by TheArtist

They don't work?  They don't know how to eat right, or the importance of eating right?  Junk food is often cheaper, more filling, less work and easier to find than healthy food? They don't exercise?  They don't care?  Any combination of the above?



A blanket statement, of this sort, should make you aware of how stereotypes are born........... Possibly even Bigotry...

That is unless you have proof of your assertions.?




there is significant evidence of the link between obesity and poverty (food insecurity), particularly in industrialized nations... his points were all correct and play a role in the link...

some articles for starters (//%22http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed&cmd=Search&db=pubmed&orig_db=pubmed&term=obesity+poverty%22)




And you find the reference to poverty in which sentence in the above post...?



I guess my problem with the statement by "artist" is the "They".... Kind of a blanket description of a group that may be comprised of many different people from many different walks of life and placed in a bad situation for many different reasons..
Not a one size fits all.



i thought "poverty" was a given considering Conan71's original question was- "Why is it so many poor people and people I see buying food with food stamps at the grocery store are so grossly overweight?"

so i assumed the "they" theartist referenced was "poor people"... i think you might have been too sensitive on that one... but i'll grant you the potentially damning effect of a generalized, ambiguous pronoun... it might have been more palatable had he replaced "they" with "poor" or "impoverished"...

theartist tried to provide a list of possible contributing factors... some are well founded... the crux of his point is that the poorer you are, the more likely you are to be fat and that it might be multifactorial... he is correct.. his post was not stereotypical or bigoted...

comorbidities can be a grumble...