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Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Bledsoe on October 11, 2006, 10:33:07 AM
Rep. Dennis Hastert confidante, the Rev. "Dr." K.A. Paul, says voters should oust congressional Republican leaders because U.S. foreign policy is delaying the second coming of Jesus Christ, according to a evangelical preacher trying to influence closely contested political races.

See:  http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/116038288540580.xml&coll=2

This also this just in:

In Hour of Need, Hastert Turns to -- Nut-Job Evangelist?


You're House Speaker Dennis Hastert. You're up to your wattle in the recriminations and repercussions of the Foley page scandal. You probably lost whatever chance you had of keeping your party in the majority. You're trying to save your own skin, much less the skins of your loyal staff, while multiple investigations are digging into your side about who knew what, when, and what they did or didn't do about it.

So you decide to take a meeting with a globe-hopping, PR-happy evangelist who (if accounts can be believed) faked his own leper colony?

see:  

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/4250074.html

http://www.houstonpress.com/Issues/2006-06-08/news/feature2_1.html

It gets even better:

Hastert Confidante "Spiritual Adviser to Scum of the Earth"
Over the past two decades, Kilari Anand Paul, a self-described "Hindu-born follower of Jesus," has cultivated a peculiar specialty as spiritual adviser to the scum of the earth. Liberia's Charles Taylor, Yugoslavia's Slobodan Milosevic, and Iraq's Saddam Hussein are among the more infamous butchers to talk with Paul about the moral implications of running a brutal, repressive, and occasionally genocidal regime.

See first link above.




Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: alanoftulsa on October 11, 2006, 10:38:55 AM
I thought everybody knew that the GOP had Jesus tied-up and gaged in the basement in the capital building... [:O]

(http://www.fotothing.com/photos/b8b/b8b8683878b0505896231098a92161c8.jpg?ts=1160581607)
Jesus tells a reporter how the GOP has had him tied-up
in the basement of the Capital Building for the last 200 years..
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: iplaw on October 11, 2006, 10:50:23 AM
Sounds like we've found Al Sharpton's bizzaro twin...
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Cubs on October 11, 2006, 10:52:22 AM
I have no words for how stupid this is.
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Conan71 on October 11, 2006, 11:07:08 AM
"To everything (spin, spin, spin)
There is a season (spin, spin, spin)
And a time for every purpose, to spin the leftie view" (apologies to the Byrds)

To borrow a word from Rwarn: Feh.

Bledsoe, I'm glad you're an attorney and not a reporter.  You have a way of mangling facts as only a good jurist can. [}:)]

Nowhere in any of the articles you posted is K.A. Paul regarded as a Hastert "advisor".  I believe the Plain Dealer referred to Paul as a critic, not an ally.  Both parties have their nuttier fringe supporters.

I'm sure you could have spun it the other way had he refused such a meeting with a critic, in that he's refusing to listen to his critics and only meeting with his supporters.
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: iplaw on October 11, 2006, 11:35:23 AM
I wouldn't line a bird cage with the Plain Dealer.
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: rwarn17588 on October 11, 2006, 11:38:41 AM
Adviser or not, the K.A. Paul story's so bizarre that you couldn't make it up.

"Yeah, let's try to get the GOP to screw things up so badly that we can accelerate the coming of a rapture that won't happen anyway."

At least it's entertaining to read.

[}:)]
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Bledsoe on October 11, 2006, 11:38:53 AM
I think I said Rev. Paul was a confidante not an advisor to Rep. Hastert.

"Paul told The Associated Press he met alone with Hastert for about 30 minutes and prayed with him. He said he told Hastert that he should resign.

"You need to for the sake of the country and for the sake of your future," Paul said he told Hastert. "You pray within your heart and you do it.""

Hastert spokesman Brad Hahn would not comment on how or why the meeting with Paul was arranged. Hahn said, "The speaker had a cordial discussion (with Paul), but disagrees with his point of view."

. . .

"Paul said he believes Hastert met with him because of Paul's connections with prominent Republicans and donors to the evangelical movement.

Paul's name is unknown to most people in the American evangelical community, said Billy Graham biographer William Martin of Rice University in Houston.

From:  http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/4250074.html


I tell you the Speaker is really on top [NOT]  of good poltical strategy these days.  I sure hope it sticks it out and does not resign.

 
[:D]
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Conan71 on October 11, 2006, 12:08:07 PM
My bad.  I didn't see him referred to as a "confidante" either.

Advisor, confidante- what ever.  "It depends on what your definintion of 'is' is."

Hastert's mistake.  He should have chosen a spiritual advisor with more in common with him like Bubba did after Lewinskygate. [}:)]
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Bledsoe on October 11, 2006, 02:52:20 PM
It keeps getting  stanger and stanger.....

Hastert "Duped" By PR-Hungry Evangelist


House Speaker Dennis Hastert was "duped" into meeting with an eccentric globetrotting evangelist and his associate, according to today's Chicago Sun-Times.

With pictures too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See:http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/91561,CST-NWS-hastert11.article


Another brilliant PR move by Hastert--what a "great" photo opp. for the campaign in the home town newspaper.  Probably due to that great support staff that keeps the Speaker on the cutting edge.

Keep hangin' in there Dennis.

[:o)]
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: rwarn17588 on October 11, 2006, 02:59:43 PM
Jeez Louise, what a dope Hastert is.
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Conan71 on October 11, 2006, 03:21:31 PM
Yes, it's a true scandal- oak furniture in his dining room.

Kinda further pokes holes in yer "confidante" comment, since Denny didn't seem to have a clue who this guy was, eh Bledsoe?
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Bledsoe on October 11, 2006, 05:26:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Yes, it's a true scandal- oak furniture in his dining room.

Kinda further pokes holes in yer "confidante" comment, since Denny didn't seem to have a clue who this guy was, eh Bledsoe?



Ok  Ok, I take it back---the Rev. was not Hastert's confidante--just his prayer partner.

I am sooooooo sorry.
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: rwarn17588 on October 11, 2006, 07:51:39 PM
Would you partner with a nut like that?

Sheesh.
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Double A on October 11, 2006, 09:12:16 PM
Could be worse, he could've been meeting with nutcases like Pat Robertson or James Dobson. Boy, these right wingers sure get defensive when you out the "spiritual leaders" that are pulling the strings of Republican politicians. Give em' hell Bledsoe. Don't take any guff from the swine.
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Rico on October 11, 2006, 09:48:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

Sounds like we've found Al Sharpton's bizzaro twin...



See there how wrong one can be... I always thought Al Sharpton was James Browns' Bizzaro Twin..

I Stand Corrected......!


[}:)]
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: TheArtist on October 11, 2006, 10:30:07 PM
Sounds to me like the Bush administration is setting the stage for the "end times" specifically I am thinking of the part where the Christians are the ones who are persecuted.  Lets see, wiretapping without oversight, imprisonment without hearing charges presented against you, etc.

All someone has to do is gain power, label the Christians and other religious people as irrational, superstitious, connect them to our societies or the worlds troubles, call it a war against ignorance and superstition, then call them criminals and terrorists, and voila the far right of today has handed those future leaders the very tools that will persecute the Christians of tomorrow.  I mean if your a Christian and you believe that Christians will be persecuted in the end times, what laws do you think they will use?  


Variations on a theme.  And I have no doubt, in time, there will be more to come.


First they put away the dealers,
keep our kids safe and off the street.
Then they put away the prostitutes,
keep married women cloistered at home.
Then they shooed away the bums,
then they beat and bashed the queers,
turned away asylum-seekers,
fed us suspicions and fears.
We didn't raise our voice,
we didn't make a fuss.
It's funny there was no one left to notice
when they came for us.


First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up,
because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left
to speak up for me.




Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Conan71 on October 12, 2006, 08:26:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Bledsoe

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

Yes, it's a true scandal- oak furniture in his dining room.

Kinda further pokes holes in yer "confidante" comment, since Denny didn't seem to have a clue who this guy was, eh Bledsoe?



Ok  Ok, I take it back---the Rev. was not Hastert's confidante--just his prayer partner.

I am sooooooo sorry.



And I'm sure if he'd told the nut-job to leave or refused to pray with him, then you would be crowing what a hypocrite Christian Hastert is for turning out a Christian minister.

This story has been far under the media radar scope other than the Chicago media for one reason- it's a non-issue, except to leftie hatchet hacks like yourself.

Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Bledsoe on October 12, 2006, 08:25:08 PM
This story just gets better and better or stranger and stranger...... only in America!!!

See:  http://originalcpmc.blogspot.com/2006/10/ka-paul-and-condoms.html



K.A. Paul and Condoms

When I saw Wonkette's posting about K.A. Paul, the questionably self-proclaimed evangelical minister to the world, I had to email Alex Pareene. I just couldn't help myself. There are just too many strange bedfellows here, and in the interest of good, old-fashioned gossip, I told him my K.A. Paul story.


This just in too:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/12/hastert-resign-2/


PAUL: Ma'am, I am so sorry to say — I know almost all the major Republican political leaders in this country, spent hundreds of hours talking to them, counseling them, in the past 10 years. They have travelled with me extensively — Bob Dole, Jack Kemp, Tom DeLay, Dick Armey. My board members are Nelson Banker Hampton and other wonderful Republican leaders. I have been a big supporter of President Bush. I have prayed with him before. He got on his knees. I have seen so many Republicans. All are wonderful people.
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Rico on October 12, 2006, 08:32:45 PM
You know I kinda like that phrase.......

Think I will try it and see if it fits....

"Karl, hatchet hack, Rove....

It seems to fit... But is still lacking that certain something....
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: Conan71 on October 13, 2006, 08:40:45 AM
Yes, we know that no man of the cloth ever lies nor exaggerates.  You keep giving yourself more and more credibility, Bledsoe. [:o)]

I wonder how it went when Pastor Paul asked Denny to borrow his gas credit card? [}:)]
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: BixB on October 13, 2006, 04:35:54 PM
I'm no Hastert fan, but this is a complete non-issue regarding his fitness to be in Congress.  For anyone on this forum or elsewhere to take a story of an unplanned meeting with an unknown nutjob, and then attempt to portray the nutjob as a "confidante," "adviser," or "prayer partner" is ridiculous. Intelligent political discussion is not advanced by such antics.
Title: GOP Is Delaying Christ's Second Coming
Post by: RecycleMichael on October 13, 2006, 04:42:27 PM
I agree that this is pretty petty as an attack.

I know you are who you hang with, but a meeting with crazies every once in a while is unavoidable in life and extra hard as a politician.

If I was knew I was to be judged this harshly for an occasional meeting, I wouldn't have lunch with any TulsaNow posters.

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5062