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Different things for different folks.
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Quote from: Gaspar on April 20, 2012, 03:58:12 PM
Different things for different folks.
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Seven pounder? What body of water is that?
You weren't using one of these lures were you?
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Quote from: Conan71 on April 20, 2012, 04:06:03 PM
You weren't using one of these lures were you?
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Nah, it would have looked more like this fish:
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Quote from: Hoss on April 20, 2012, 04:00:38 PM
Seven pounder? What body of water is that?
LAAAKE FOOORKYou have to say it that way too.
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Where is the relationship between 420 and fish? Another perfect example of twisted logic....or some sort of equivalency where none exists.
I love to seek out the bass and don't care much for 420 other than the fact it makes those that want less government look even more ridiculous in their opposition of decrim.
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My mouth is sooooo dry!
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This is downtown somewhere.
This being 4-20 day I found this interesting. Ben Franklin started the 1st Colonial printing press using hemp paper. I'm not saying he smoked it, a lot of sober guys fly kites in thunderstorms.
So, ya gotta ask yourself, are ya feeling lucky, punk....
Oh, wait...wrong thread...I thought this was the Ted Nugent room.
Ya gotta ask yourself, when there are soooo many people who would like to see us stop wasting our time, money and energy on the insanity of our drug laws - why don't they change? Just shows to go ya that when the populace elects someone, that someone is STILL owned by someone else.
Don't find yourself enacting scenes from Platoon with Charlie Sheen!
Legalizing pot is the conservative point of view:
Quote from: Teatownclown on April 23, 2012, 07:57:04 AM
Legalizing pot is the conservative point of view:
It would actually be one of the more fiscally-responsible things we could do in terms of reducing government waste.
Don't fight the PIC....
(Prison Industrial Complex)
Quote from: Conan71 on April 24, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
It would actually be one of the more fiscally-responsible things we could do in terms of reducing government waste.
Unfortunately. the pockets that are being lined with money want it to stay that way.
QuoteProsecutors played hidden camera video from that motel room that showed Tulsa Officer JJ Gray pocketing money, as well as Officer Nick DeBruin pocketing money and giving some to Officer Bruce Bonham, who also put some in his pocket. All this happens while Cpl. Harold Wells is in the same room.
Defense attorneys say the officers were going to take the money to let a drug dog sniff it for traces of drugs But, Gray testified they were all taking the money to steal it and they only gave it back and turned it in to the property room after getting spooked they were being set up.
He admitted on the stand that he had taken money on other search warrants, lied on affidavits and even gave drugs to a dealer to sell for him once. He says in that case, Cpl. Wells knew what he was doing and they believed the means justified the end, by busting a big drug dealer.
Wells can be heard on tape saying, "Nick says be sure to take care of him." Prosecutors say he's talking about getting Nick a cut of the money, but defense attorneys say he meant get his name on the subpoena so he'd get overtime pay to testify.
Quote'What I specifically said was that we were not going to prioritize prosecutions of persons who are using medical marijuana," Obama said. "I never made a commitment that somehow we were going to give carte blanche to large-scale producers and operators of marijuana ... and the reason is, because it's against federal law." So small scale for your own consumption is ok.' Obama
Would work for me... ;)
While I don't smoke anymore (it's damn boring after 25), I think that the illegality of pot is idiotic. How you you all think a decriminalization measure would fair in this state? I know it wouldn't pass, put what are the numbers you think would go down.
Quote from: jacobi on April 25, 2012, 09:07:12 PM
While I don't smoke anymore (it's damn boring after 25), I think that the illegality of pot is idiotic. How you you all think a decriminalization measure would fair in this state? I know it wouldn't pass, put what are the numbers you think would go down.
We could start an initiative petition and see...
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 25, 2012, 09:16:43 PM
We could start an initiative petition and see...
If only we could attach it to some sort of tax decrease.
Quote from: nathanm on April 25, 2012, 11:50:52 PM
If only we could attach it to some sort of tax decrease.
Or a personhood bill....
Quote from: Hoss on April 26, 2012, 12:11:31 AM
Or a personhood bill....
Good one! It can be the simplest ballot measure in history: "Sperm are people and weed is legal." :P
Quote"Sperm are people and weed is legal."
Why does that sound like it sould work here.
Will try to work something up this weekend and bring it for review.
How about turnpikes? Or would that clutter up the issues, too much?
Quote from: jacobi on April 26, 2012, 12:25:24 AM
Why does that sound like it sould work here.
Won't work. The cons will say the plant is a living thing and reaping it to smoke is akin to abortion. :P
It truly is sick the amount of resistance there is to decriminalizing pot when one considers the legality of alcohol, which can be proven to be far more deleterious to individuals, their families, and innocent bystanders.
While it's possible to become emotionally-dependent on pot, I've never heard of a case of physical dependence like alcohol.
Quote from: Conan71 on April 26, 2012, 09:17:48 AM
Won't work. The cons will say the plant is a living thing and reaping it to smoke is akin to abortion. :P
It truly is sick the amount of resistance there is to decriminalizing pot when one considers the legality of alcohol, which can be proven to be far more deleterious to individuals, their families, and innocent bystanders.
While it's possible to become emotionally-dependent on pot, I've never heard of a case of physical dependence like alcohol.
Then vote for Obama....
Wait. Currently many arrests are based on non payment of taxes on drug sales. What if....Sperm is life, Weed is Legal, Reduce Taxes on Weed?
There was a feeling in this country that pot was going to be legal within a few years as early as the late 60's. It is a testament to the power of cognitive dissonance that it remains illegal. So the question I have to ask is, is this a left/right issue? To answer it means that we have to talk about the identity crisis in the GOP. It seems that this one little issue epitomizes the trouble that the GOP is in. Personal liberty and faith based initiatives are fundamentally incompatible. So, if you want the gub'rmaint to leave you alone and not tax you or tell you what to do, that means that any of the pandering that the GOP dies to the mega church crowd, is an attempt to limit freedom.
As a side note, the notion of medical pot seems like a sidestep. Mj does have some physiological benefits, but they are greatly over exadurated to try to give some elbow room to pot legislation.
Quote from: jacobi on April 26, 2012, 08:45:08 PM
There was a feeling in this country that pot was going to be legal within a few years as early as the late 60's. It is a testament to the power of cognitive dissonance that it remains illegal. So the question I have to ask is, is this a left/right issue? To answer it means that we have to talk about the identity crisis in the GOP. It seems that this one little issue epitomizes the trouble that the GOP is in. Personal liberty and faith based initiatives are fundamentally incompatible. So, if you want the gub'rmaint to leave you alone and not tax you or tell you what to do, that means that any of the pandering that the GOP dies to the mega church crowd, is an attempt to limit freedom.
As a side note, the notion of medical pot seems like a sidestep. Mj does have some physiological benefits, but they are greatly over exadurated to try to give some elbow room to pot legislation.
Like homosexuality or adultery, the right isn't against it privately, they just don't want to be caught doing it.
We waste billions upon billions of dollars and cost thousands of people years off their lives by imprisoning them due to stupid laws against marijuana use. True conservatives would recognize the travesty to personal liberty in the way we punish people for what is really a relatively harmless drug, especially compared to alcohol. Fiscally speaking, it's very obvious what the conservative position should be.
Yeah, I don't see this as a left-independent-right issue though everything tends to get thrown into the blender and separated into oil, fiber and water. As Conan writes this is an economic issue. We continue mj prohibition and we'll keep getting the same results as alcohol prohibition did.
Quote from: AquaMan on April 27, 2012, 10:58:17 AM
Yeah, I don't see this as a left-independent-right issue though everything tends to get thrown into the blender and separated into oil, fiber and water. As Conan writes this is an economic issue. We continue mj prohibition and we'll keep getting the same results as alcohol prohibition did.
But that's the desired result for those who are profiting from it.
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(Reuters) - The Supreme Court on Tuesday limited the ability of police to use a trained dog to sniff around the outside of a home for illegal drugs that might be inside.
By a 5-4 vote, the court said the use by law enforcement authorities of trained police dogs to investigate a home and its immediate surroundings was a "search" within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, and required a warrant.
"A police officer not armed with a warrant may approach a home and knock, precisely because that is no more than any private citizen might do," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote for the majority.
"But introducing a trained police dog to explore the area around the home in hopes of discovering incriminating evidence is something else," he added. "There is no customary invitation to do that."
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(Reuters) - The Supreme Court on Tuesday limited the ability of police to use a trained dog to sniff around the outside of a home for illegal drugs that might be inside.
By a 5-4 vote, the court said the use by law enforcement authorities of trained police dogs to investigate a home and its immediate surroundings was a "search" within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, and required a warrant.
"A police officer not armed with a warrant may approach a home and knock, precisely because that is no more than any private citizen might do," Justice Antonin Scalia wrote for the majority.
"But introducing a trained police dog to explore the area around the home in hopes of discovering incriminating evidence is something else," he added. "There is no customary invitation to do that."
It is not often that I am truly surprised - but that did it....
Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on March 26, 2013, 05:14:42 PM
It is not often that I am truly surprised - but that did it....
It should not be much of a stretch to apply the same civil rights guarantees to the outside of a parked car (including one parked in your own driveway) but apparently it is. Searching with an instrument, whether it's a trained dog or something mechanical, is still a search.
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Illinois on Friday took one more big step toward becoming the 19th state to legalize medical marijuana.
The state Senate voted 35-21 in favor of the bill early Friday afternoon, despite concerns expressed by some opposing lawmakers -- particularly Republican state Sen. Kyle McCarter -- that marijuana is a "gateway drug" to usage of other, more dangerous drugs.
But the bill's Senate sponsor, Sen. Bill Haine, an Alton Democrat, emphasized that the bill "is filled with walls" to ensure the public's safety, the Chicago Tribune reports.
The bill was approved last week by the Senate Executive Committee and was already OKed by the state House. The proposal next needs the signature of Gov. Pat Quinn, who previously said he is "open-minded" about it.
The legislation would establish a four-year pilot program during which individuals with serious diseases including cancer, HIV and multiple sclerosis would be able to get a special ID card allowing them to buy limited amounts -- up to two-and-a-half ounces -- of medical marijuana from one of 60 state-licensed dispensaries.
The bill, described by proponents as "model legislation" for other states to follow, is said to have the tightest regulation of any medical marijuana law currently on the books anywhere in the nation. A coalition of nearly 250 physicians previously came forward and gave a thumbs up to the proposal, as did Illinois Lt. Gov. Sheila Simon.